Mmkay, let's get crackin. This day phase so far.
Golden wrote:A massacre is not the gist of the West Side Story role. It was just a specific word in there that was distinctive that I thought Scotty could use to confirm we had the same role.
Sloonei - I've read all of your iso's. At this point my vote is most likely to go to Cobalt or bubbles. Because I think the evidence points in those directions. Bubbles sounds like she is scrambling. Cobalt has certainly settled down but here is what for me is so persuasive I can't look beyond it...
TGG's team killed Epi. Epi subbed back in and said his views were still the same. TGG promptly quit. Why did that happen if none of Epi's views were about one of TGG's teammates? For me, the absolute most critical thing I think we can do today is analyse Epi's posts on day one. For me they lead to Cobalt, but I'd like to hear other views.
Except Epi went for me as soon as my vote wound up on SVS instead of Long Con, so Epi did have views on me. Why would I be stupid enough to kill someone who wanted my head on a platter on night one?
Sloonei wrote:I am getting a little impatient waiting for Cobalt to start playing again and I'm becoming more suspicious of him as the days go by.
Oh hai.
timmer wrote:Main points for me.
1. Despite posting quite a bit that day, BR's vote post against sig is the only she mentioned him all game. She hadn't ever mentioned him before, she didn't technically even mention him when she voted him, and she never mentioned him after. Search "sig" through her posts, he will only appear in the posts of people she quoted in a reply. Yet she voted for him to be lynched AFTER saying she was CERTAIN Bass is bad.
2. Has defended Long Con all game.
3. Has focused her attentions more on talking about players who aren't around (Turnip Head) or secondary to any of the game's main story lines (Bass) and avoided talking about the main points, unless defending Long Con (never talked about Cobalt/Long Con the day Cobalt took all of the lynch votes).
She's bad.
I'm totally down for a Scum Rock lynch today. I've felt the same way about her defending LC except I haven't been able to articulate it in the way you did in your longer post, thanks for that.
Sloonei wrote:Black Rock wrote:timmer wrote:Main points for me.
1. Despite posting quite a bit that day, BR's vote post against sig is the only she mentioned him all game. She hadn't ever mentioned him before, she didn't technically even mention him when she voted him, and she never mentioned him after. Search "sig" through her posts, he will only appear in the posts of people she quoted in a reply. Yet she voted for him to be lynched AFTER saying she was CERTAIN Bass is bad.
2. Has defended Long Con all game.
3. Has focused her attentions more on talking about players who aren't around (Turnip Head) or secondary to any of the game's main story lines (Bass) and avoided talking about the main points, unless defending Long Con (never talked about Cobalt/Long Con the day Cobalt took all of the lynch votes).
She's bad.
So am I on LC's team or Sig's? Sorry I had no suspicion on Sig until he was outed by himself. I don't think I defended LC ALL game. I did say I didn't think he killed Epig and I was right. Who are you trying to lead the lynch away from today Timmer?
Why do you suspect he's tryin to lead the lynch away from someone?
I agree with Sloonei here actually. Timmer comes out with a completely reasonable list of things that she's done that make her look scummy, and all she does is try to make him look bad and say he's trying to lead the lynch away from someone? It's a weak way to defend herself and make someone look bad for wanting to vote her, almost an OMGUS in disguise.
Scotty wrote:Canucklehead wrote:Earlier in my catch-up I was feeling that Cobalt was deffo bad, but the fact that he hasn't yet lived up to his promise to be more engaged actually makes me less suspicious of him (contrary to Sloonei's opposite thought). I just think the impetus to clean up your image and contribute is much stronger for the mafia (especially if you've got a chat room full of buddies counting on you to do so), while civs who are feeling disengaged/uninterested in the game have no real push to get back into it.
Yes, except Cobalt hasn't been taking any heat in the past few days, so what impetus does he have to clean up and be more engaging? Not really until last night, honestly, have we (Epi, then I) brought him back into suspicion. When he posted explaining he was playing lazy the last few days, I expected that was on account of the fact that he could just skim. He was already pretty ambiguously aligned. Wouldn't a civ try and contribute at this point?
The longer he sits away from the game, the more suspicious I grow of him.
Also @ you, oh hai.
Golden wrote:It does make sense Canuck. Entirely.
All I will say is that my personal feeling that Cobalt is bad is not based on his thread activity, and in that sense I actually would probably come around to your perspective.
Except that I still think he is TGG's teammate because of TGG's quit - its the reason I called out G-Man, and if that half of my argument was correct (he quit because epi came back) I think the second half has to be too (he quit because epi had called out one of his teammates). And when I read epi's posts from day one, I don't see who else but cobalt fits the bill. So from my perspective, my cobalt suspicion is about logic, not about cobalt's actual behaviour.
I made that post about TGG early in the game I think it was day one, someone else already quoted it. If I were scum team with him, I wouldn't go near him with a ten foot pole. I know how he plays and I know how I play, and we'd work better working different angles.
Scotty wrote:I'm basing my read off of what Cobalt talks about and what his actions are. Not responding to criticism in any capacity is, to be honest, shady.
The 2 reasons that I am not autovoting Cobalt now, who is hovering at the top of my scum list, are the facts that:
- I have a sneaking suspicion he was silenced today, and it is unfair to speculate on someone's posting gaps if it's out of their hands
- If he was silenced, why would they silence him now?
- I want to hear why MM, who also currently isn't high on my civ list, did a drive by Cobalt vote.
MM said he would be traveling or something towards the end of the last day phase? I've felt pretty safe about him for most of the game cuz he voted LC even before I did, so that's why I voted him when I was busy and I wouldn't be around. Maybe he did the same thing? I'm not sure how he feels about me but if he feels safe as well maybe he thought I wouldn't be lynched today and just wanted to put a vote somewhere. No idea, I'd like to know too though.
Epignosis wrote:Scotty wrote:Quick question- if Into the Woods is still alive, do you all think he/she pardons the one lynch during the day phase or night phase?
Because another thing that is giving me pause is that Cobalt could very much be Into the Woods. Am I wrong in thinking that is a possibility?
Cobalt said he was going to make LC die. Not the same thing as a lynch pardon.
Correctamundo.
Epignosis wrote:Scotty wrote:OK, I wasn't asking about his lie. He even said he was lying. Do you think it's possible he could have pardoned himself?
I don't really give a shit about any of that.
I say he's bad.
I say Black Rock is bad.
I'll go for either one.
See, I think you're bad, but your willingness to go for Black Rock gives me pause because she's my strongest scum read right now.
I'm willing to commit my vote to Black Rock today, I'm going to do so.
Anybody have any questions for me while I'm around?