I must admit I missed this in my skim, so I apologize for just getting to it now, JJJ:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I am more suspicious of the MP voters than I am of the average random participant. This post by Scotty troubles me:
Scotty wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:thellama73 wrote:I have been quite clear in the fact that I vacationing at the beach until tiesday being relentless pestered by small children and trying to keep up on my phone. I'm sorry that I have been able to weigh in on every topic of discussion, but at least I am not missing votes. I am basing my votes on pings as I see them until I get back. If that makes me a liability, then don't recruit me to your team.
You're right. I'm sorry as well. I understand why you think I've overreacted because I have. I really don't want to get lynched on D2 over baseless reasons this game. Surely you can relate to being an easy lynch.
I'll move my vote.
Make sure you bold it!
linki- that goes for you too MM!
I think MP's frustrations are genuine, but I think they are coming different angles. Angry Birds shouldn't be an excuse here, and I actually don't see the passive-aggressiveness he's expressing via Rico and llama, but hey man, everybody's got something going on. It's just whooshing right over my head. Last time I saw MP this wound up was in Watchmen, and that was when he was taking a bit of heat before the vote. This, however, doesn't seem like heat for a vote, but for a myriad of personal semantic and personal reasons.
He was frustrated civ in that game, but I don't know if I read that here.
Y'all ever tried crack cocaine? I was hanging out on the street yesterday with a buddy who had recently been dumped and this homeless man started talking with us about the miracles of crack. He invited us to his lair between buildings to try some, and my buddy felt like he had nothing better to do. So he joined in while I went to the pharmacy to get some mango spears. The line there had only 2 people but took like 10 minutes- no kidding!!
- and by the time I got back, my buddy had already left with a girl he had met at the bodega nearby, homeless man was nowhere to be seen. This morning he texted and said he had a crazy night, and it was the best decision of his life. Those mango spears were in so very ripe and in season and I DEVOURED them as well
. All in all, a good night had by all!
Don't be afraid to try something new, MP. You do you. I know you are stressed out, and I get that feel. But you may want to check that at the door, since, to me anyway, it doesn't do your civ cred- in this game at least- any favors.
That first true paragraph is all over the place. Scotty reads MP's frustration as genuine (first highlight), but not as
civilian genuine -- I view this distinction dubiously. That isn't because I don't think there can be a distinction, there can. It's because I don't follow the logic Scotty has laid out to arrive at that conclusion. He drew the comparison to frustration exhibited by MP in Watchmen (I did not follow this game closely), referencing
the reasons MP was taking heat rather than
MP's actual behavior. This means Scotty's interest lies in the accusations being leveled upon MP and not in MP's responses to them -- that's the wrong place to focus.
To be fair, logic sometimes makes more sense in my head than when I write it down. But actually, in this case, I felt I was pretty clear. I love that
this is the tidbit you're caught up in. There
can be a divide in genuine frustration- it's how he channels it that shines a light on his intention.
"Scotty's interest lies in the accusations being leveled upon MP and not in MP's responses to them -- that's the wrong place to focus."
Keep in mind, MP's responses up to that point had been few and far between in comparison to his usual Long Days Journey Into Night type posts.. And the ones that were there looked laboured and not necessarily substantive while he was in that mindset. There definitely seemed to be a difference in tone and backlash that, at the time, seemed to resonate with some sort of darker feel. In Watchmen, he was scrambling to contain his civ image (and an important civ role, no less) but it wasn't in forms of settling accusations. I dunno, I got uncomfortable with the entire situation. I felt bad for voting for someone that felt attacked and not enough time to respond, but I would only expect the same from others in regards to how I was handling myself early game.
Lack of time in a game like this is as desirable as a mustachio'd mail-order bride.
Looking back (and why he is not currently near the top of my sus list), I saw that he DID come back and respond to the accusations in a calmer manner later on. If he had continued to hold some grudges I don't know if I would have believed him to be just a frustrated civ.