[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

[Golden]

Wait, I have to catch up on what Golden is trying to make us do.

I'm not trying to make anyone do anything, I want to be very clear about that.

[Golden]

I wonder how many people will 'forget' to remove their votes from me and then blame Golden for my death...

I offered you a solution to that, and specifically asked you how you would feel about it. You have so far ignored it. You seem to want to play martyr, to me.

[Bullzeye]

I wonder how many people will 'forget' to remove their votes from me and then blame Golden for my death...

I offered you a solution to that, and specifically asked you how you would feel about it. You have so far ignored it. You seem to want to play martyr, to me.

I didn't see this offer. I certainly don't want to be a martyr.

[TheFloyd73]

I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

[Tangrowth]

Hey folks, let's not forget these:

4. No role outing of yourself or anyone else. This includes all statements of fact that any player may see and thereafter deduct your or someone else's role, such as "I am Making Flippy Floppy", "Sloonei is Psycho Killer", etc. This game is open setup and incompatible with role outing, thus making it not fun when players engage in it. Absolutely don't do it.
5. No dumping information you received from the Host (whether role-related or not) into the thread. This includes statements that more often are seen as implications, rather than statements of fact (role outing). An example would be declaring that "I have reasons to believe Sloonei is Psycho Killer" without elaborating. If you suspect someone to be a certain role or alignment, use in-thread reasons to back up your assertion or speculation, even if your reasons are sourced from information you gained outside of the thread. If you are unsure if what you are about to say constitutes info dumping, please PM the hosts first before making the post. If you fail to do this and your post does violate information dumping, then you and your faction will be punished.

I realize there has been a situation that has prompted a discussion, and nothing has firmly crossed the line, but we've had recent discussion that is increasingly tiptoeing that line, so I wanted to remind everyone. Don't forget that regardless of whether the information being dumped or role outed is true or not, the perception of such is just as bad.

[TheFloyd73]

Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.

What exactly makes her suspicious?

[motel room]

Choutas - I see on Day 2, Choutas was the first to vote for Long Con on the day he was lynched. It's late and I have 20+ players left to go...based on this, overall gut check - CIVVIE

He was actually the second, behind me but I swapped off Long Con for a bit. It was an unexplained vote too which I'm still curious about although its so far in the past i might be beating-off a dead horse. Just want to know if it makes a difference to your read at all?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

[Golden]

No probs bullz. I know it's annoying when people say you 'ignored' something you just didn't see. Even though I think you are bad, it would not be fair to you (or anyone else in the same situation) if a gambit was used to 'accidentally' lynch you. I would be incredibly suspicious of anyone who claimed to vote you for reasons other than suspecting you and then didn't change their vote.

@MP - for clarification. If people are speculating as to a person's role (correctly or incorrectly) based on things that have happened in the thread in the game, that is completely legitimate, yes?

@floyd - some people suspect you because they think you voting makes you look like you know more than you are letting on. I happen not to agree, though.

[TheFloyd73]

I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

I don't know, I can see it in their eyes (or rather... Text).
My lack of posts is from mental shit going on

[Tangrowth]

To clarify:

I am currently mulling over whether recent events constitute too much tiptoeing or whether it is fully legitimate.

I'll be back with a final decision at a later time.

[Strawhenge]

Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.

What exactly makes her suspicious?

Here's some light reading:

Sorsha ★ Basement

Spoiler: show

1. Everything in my last read on her still sticks for me. Refer to that if you need to.

2. ...And then there's not much else, is there? Bit of skepticism about the Rico vote, and of JJJ, including some more suspicion of Golden, and, later, a halfhearted pledge to vote for Golden again.

I don't want to get on somebody's case for having a busy real life, since I have one too, so maybe that's the only factor. But my rating for Sorsha doesn't change.

[TheFloyd73]

Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.

What exactly makes her suspicious?

Here's some light reading:

Sorsha ★ Basement

Spoiler: show

1. Everything in my last read on her still sticks for me. Refer to that if you need to.

2. ...And then there's not much else, is there? Bit of skepticism about the Rico vote, and of JJJ, including some more suspicion of Golden, and, later, a halfhearted pledge to vote for Golden again.

I don't want to get on somebody's case for having a busy real life, since I have one too, so maybe that's the only factor. But my rating for Sorsha doesn't change.

Ah

[RadicalFuzz]

Floyd, I have a question. How much of the game have you read?

And, to others, Floyd is not a replacement, correct?

[Marmot]

Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.

I hate you.

[TheFloyd73]

Floyd, I have a question. How much of the game have you read?

Do you mean the thread text?

[RadicalFuzz]

Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?

[Marmot]

And I deserve to die...

[TheFloyd73]

Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?

A decent amount, I've had heavy stuff going on in my life.

[RadicalFuzz]

Sorry to hear life has been dealing you some bad hands. Hope your situation improves.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?

A decent amount, I've had heavy stuff going on in my life.

I hope everything turns out peachy keen, mate. We appreciate you trying your best to play with us despite the circumstances.

I think you'll find that many players will always find it suspicious when someone is not posting very much while voting on time each day. That indicates that you are at least staying attentive to the game's existence without involving yourself in the discussions that generate pressure. I know this is your first Mafia game though, and it has taken off at a torrent pace that must be difficult to keep up with.

Please understand that we all need to have a way to read what your alignment is. At the moment you're sort of a coin flip, there's just not enough information to make any fair judgments about you. You're doing better today though, and if you keep that up then that'd be awesome.

[TheFloyd73]

Thank you, I appreciate that

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.

I hate you.

Should I vote for someone else?

[bcornett24]

Likely Scum
Bullzeye

Because Golden said so?

Golden does not formulate my opinions, the rainbow was my reaction to you based on reading the thread. The fact that you ended up where you did, mean I need to go through and do some analyzing of your content which, I will be doing shortly.

[Sorsha]

And I deserve to die...

I thought you did die!

Spoiler: show

[MacDougall]

Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.

I hate you.

Should I vote for someone else?

Jimmy is Floyd! Let's get him!

[DrWilgy]

Anyone wanna lynch Mac with me?

Also, #freemarmot

[Golden]

Mac is in my green reads on my rainbow list, which I should really do one of.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mac was possibly the best-looking in my LC interaction checks. Not lynching him.

[Elohcin]

@ Rico - Your summary post of LC interactions was amazing. You must take very detailed notes as you read the thread. Anyway, I don;t have much to add that hasn't already been said, but I felt you deserved to be commended for your work.

linki: I will not be voting Mac anytime soon, I see him as civ as well.

[bcornett24]

Bullzeye
Diiny - something is off went from a
Sorsha - seems like scum but it also feels like she is being setup (this is a gut feeling)

Please finish your comment on Diiny.

I'm also curious how your read of Sorsha can be explained. Why does she seem like scum, and conversely why does it feel like a setup? That's an extremely important distinction and I think you need to pick a side immediately.

What he said about Sorsha.

So nobody else thinks it's odd about Devin not mentioning or speaking with EITHER of his CEO picks?

@ Roxy's vote

Has he given opinions on either player at any point of time within the entire thread?

I read him last night, and if I'm correct, he has not mentioned them, he has not spoken with them, NOTHING.

He actually hasn't mentioned much of anything.

Devin the Omniscient

you should have seen this coming

Yours is possibly the first vote on me to every make me a little upset. How could I have possibly seen your vote coming? I don't know you and I don't know why you're voting for me. Explain now, please.

I saw this coming from a mile a way.

Devin the Omniscient

I have an actual reason though for voting for you. Admittedly, my content has been relatively useless up to this point, as I have just caught up reading all this stuff, you on the other hand have 50+ posts and almost all of it is nothing. This I find to be scummy as f...

[RadicalFuzz]

bcornett, now that you've "just caught up", would you kindly answer the question I've asked you multiple times? Why do you find Wilgy to be "probably scum"?

[bcornett24]

bcornett, now that you've "just caught up", would you kindly answer the question I've asked you multiple times? Why do you find Wilgy to be "probably scum"?

Chill , I'm working on everything, one post at a time, from where I left for work which is on page 52 right now. I think your question was next or the one after.

[Tangrowth]

To clarify:

I am currently mulling over whether recent events constitute too much tiptoeing or whether it is fully legitimate.

I'll be back with a final decision at a later time.

This has been decided.

[Marmot]

Can I just die already? I deserve it.

Also, I'm still catching up, because there's oodles of stuff to catch up on. You guys post aloe.

[S~V~S]

You guys post aloe.

It's so seldom I get to catch other people in typos

[bcornett24]

bcornett, I know you're finishing your post right now, but I have a question after you're completed. Why do you have Wilgy as "possibly scum?"

I also disagree with you on your suspicion of J3, at least regarding post count. Having more posts to analyze is always a good thing. It can definitely be tricky because there's so much information, yes, but you have that player's opinions and analyses on essentially everything.

For me, his suspicion is his massive amount of filler content, of the ~40 posts he has maybe ten with actual content, and nothing that is overly useful for making a read. Not until most recently with this post did I really find anything useful. This analysis is really in depth.

Spoiler: show

~AceofSpaces: TheFloyd73 (4) 3%

~bcornett24: FZ. (19), Sorsha (21), Epignosis (26), bea (27), Golden (36), Long Con (38) 16%

~Devin the Omniscient: rundontwalk (7) 3%

~Diiny: Devin the Omniscient (6), thellama73 (24) 5%

~DrWilgy: Ricochet (23) 3%

~JaggedJimmyJay: Rbzmncaeaei (37) 3%

~Long Con: Choutas (12), sig (16), seaside (17), DrWilgy (18), motel room (31), bcornett24 (32),
JaggedJimmyJay (34), Russtifinko (35) 21%

~Matt F: Roxy (15) 3%

~Metalmarsh89: Bullzeye (20) 3%

~seaside: Metalmarsh89 (2), Strawhenge (10) 5%

~Sorsha: Matt F (25), Elohcin (33) 5%

~thellama73: MacDougall (13), Diiny (28), espers (30) 8%

<<<~~~~~>>>
Start: Votes required to 50% kill LC (3) { (brackets represent killing point)
MM puts Seaside at 1 *marker(2)*
-Where has MM been since?
-Votes to kill LC +1 (4)

Floyd ties it with AceofSpaces at 1 *marker(4)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Devin ties it with Diiny at 1 *marker(6)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

RDW ties it with Devin at 1 *marker(7)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Strawhenge gives seaside the lead at 2 *marker(10)*
-Votes to kill LC +1 (5)

Choutas is the 1st of final votes on LC *marker(12)*
-Votes to kill LC -1 (4)

MacDougall votes Llama *marker(13)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4
Roxy votes Matt F *marker(15)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Sig Seaside and DrWilgy give LC lead at 4 *marker(16,17,18)*
-Votes to kill LC -3 (1)

First vote for bcornett by FZ *marker(19)*,
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Bullzeye first vote for MM *marker(20)*,
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Sorsha for bcornett *marker(21)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Rico on me for 1 *marker(23)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Llama on Diiny *marker(24)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Matt F on Sorsha *marker(25)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Epi and Bea on bcornett *marker(26, 27)*
-Votes to kill LC +2 (3)

Dinny and Espers on llama *marker(28, 30)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +3

Motel room and cornett on LC *marker(31, 32)*
-Votes to kill LC -2 (1)

Elohcin on Sorsha *marker(33)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +3

JJJ and Russ on LC *marker(34,35)*
-Votes to kill LC -2 (-1)
}
LC is no longer safe

Golden on Cornett *marker(36)* {
-Votes to kill LC +1 (0)

Zebra DOESN’T save LC at *(37)*
-LC is in danger at 0

LC tries to save himself… } End

Now, I created a point system to analyze this based upon my personal scumtells:

Increasing LC's survival number gets 1 scumpoint
Leaving LC on a + number without affecting it gets 2 scumpoints
Increasing LC's survival number from -1 to 0 gets 3 scumpoints
Increasing LC's survival number from 0 to 1 gets 4 scumpoints

leaving LC's survival number on 0 gets no points

Decreasing LC's survival number by 1 gets -1 scumpoint
Leaving LC on a - number without affecting it gets -2 scumpoints
decreasing LC's survival number from 1 to 0 gets -3 scumpoints
decreasing LC's survival number from 0 to -1 gets -4 scumpoints

Points are multiplied by a value determined by their timing, or marker number, here's the key:
Marker 0-5 = *1
Marker 5-15 = *2
Marker 15-25 = *3
Marker 25-35 = *4
Marker 35+ = *5
(greater value is non-inclusive, i.e. marker 5 would be ruled as *2)

Final scumpoint values without organization:

• MM: 1
  Floyd: 2
  Devin: 4
  RDW: 4
  Strawhenge: 2
  Choutas: -2
  MacDougall: 4
  Roxy: 6
  Sig: -3
  Seaside: -3
  DrWilgy: -3
  FZ: 6
  Bullzeye: 6
  Sorsha: 6
  Rico: 6
  Llama: 6
  Matt F: 8
  Epi: 4
  Bea: 4
  Dinny: 8
  Espers: 8
  Motel Room: -4
  Bcornett: -4
  Elohchin: 8
  JJJ: -12
  Russ: -20
  Golden: 15
  Zebra: 0

Now organized with color:

• Russ -20
  JJJ -12
  Bcornett -4
  Motel Room -4
  DrWilgy -3
  Sig -3
  Seaside -3
  Choutas -2
  Zebra 0
  MM 1
  Floyd 2
  Strawhenge 2
  Devin 4
  RDW 4
  MacDougall 4
  bea 4
  Epi 4
  Roxy 6
  FZ 6
  Bullzeye 6
  Sorsha 6
  Rico 6
  Llama 6
  Matt F 8
  Dinny 8
  Espers 8
  Elohchin 8
  Golden 15

Vote changed to Golden

I'm going to bed now... that took me afew hours...

There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

[Strawhenge]

I thought I'd take a look at DrWilgy, whose name I thought was DrWigly, so whose name shall be DrWigly henceforth.

DrWigly (you probably hate that oh my god i'm sorry i just) ★★★½ Facility

Spoiler: show

1. Nominates self for CEO. Who does that?! (like 89% joking, 11% conspiracy theory) I know his designs for political domination is halted in its cot-dang tracks, but

2. Re: that last url, nominated Epi and Marsho, who I am gathering recently is actually, literally, a marmot. Okay.

3. Votes for bwt, and says he suspects Rico and bwt for saying they were going to switch up their play styles after rolecards are out. Makes sense. That would make me nervous ay eff as well.

3½. At first I was excited when there was only one page of posts when I clicked on DrWigly's name in the thing. Yeah. And then I see that his posts are literally measured in AUs. Cool your jets, Marguerite Young! oh my god i'm so sorry i'm kidding please don't oh

3¾. :o SAYS HE'S NOT A DOCTOR AFTER CLAIMING, IN-THREAD, TO BE A DOCTOR. LYNCH THIS MAN. LYNCH HIM. THIS VERY SECOND. HAMMER GAME. #BTTW. GET SOME. MALPRACTICE SUIT. MALPRACTICE SUIT.

4. Votes LC citing the most obvious reason and doesn't give any other reasons or thoughts on the matter. Kinda bandwagony, Wigly. Kinda bandwagly. ...wagony.

5. Says will be voting either Epi, Diiny, or Zebra.

6. Is confounded by Long Con's long con, and questions nearly everything about it. I get a townish read from this. Could very well be a bus, but I lean on not. He even winds up voting for LC, so that also feels pretty good.

7. Gets mighty colorful on an exhaustive examination of the Long Con lynch, noting possible motive for JJJ, bea, Golden, and Sorsha to have tried to swing the vote toward a tie. Makes some good points, then votes for Sorsha.

8. My god, just look at it. The statistics...the...the formatting, I... That's some fuckin' CSI. Some NCIS. Or whatever the

That's all I got so far. Looking pretty townish. Some oddities here and there, but I think that may just be the Doctor's peculiar style. So there you have it.

[Strawhenge]

Can I just die already? I deserve it.

That's the second time you've said this. Por quoi?

[MacDougall]

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

[RadicalFuzz]

There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

[Strawhenge]

Simply because I saw his name on this very page of Mafia, I want to take a closer look at the marmot.

Metal Marsh LXXXIX Unrated

Spoiler: show

1. Okay, first note, is that I went through a whole page of Marsh's posts and saw not one thing I could get a read on. Most of it is replies to other players, jokes/ot posts, and really not much else. He voted for rdw, but only because rdw wasn't posting. No game-related interactions, no suspicions, nuffin. Is that normal for him? I think I've played in a game with him...once?

2. Votes Russti, doesn't explain other than saying there was a ping. Asks MacDougall to join him in doing so.

2½. Lives in Eugene. Lynch the hippie!

3. Votes seaside for thinking there are 2 scum in the bwt lynch. It was a rushed vote, I guess, since he was leaving town, but still. Worth noting, at least.

4. And...that's it.

There's almost a vacuum of content here. I don't know what to think.

[Strawhenge]

2½. Lives in Eugene. Lynch the hippie!

In turn I invite any sort of rallying for my immediate lynching for being a hipster. It's okay. I deserve it.

[DrWilgy]

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Not tunneling, just asking and pointing out things of importance. Luv ya bruh <3

Ok then, lets set up a chain of events, based on Sorsha crumbs.

When Sorsha flips baddie, who would you vote the following day?

When Sorsha flips civ, who would you vote the following day?

Generating rainbow lists for both if Sorsha is bad or civ would be a good thing as well... Maybe abit much to ask for though.

Bcornett are you bad?

[Sorsha]

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?

[Golden]

MacDougall griveous went from greeniest infliction decompound decompound braaiiiinssss... to a officialism suspect sliky anaemia single post.

[bcornett24]

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?

How does flipping town help? What will it reveal?

[Sorsha]

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?

How does flipping town help? What will it reveal?

That's what I'm asking him. What knowledge does he think he is going to be graced with when I flip town?

[Sorsha]

....also changed my vote from bullz to Devin

[bcornett24]

There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

I should have been more specific, 1/8th is hugs while another 3-4/8th if not more appears to be filler content in my opinion. I see a lot of off handed comments that don't really contribute in anyway.

I quite well understand this, and I doubt jay would be so careless, I've played all 5 games thus far with jay I don't think he has failed to break 200 posts in any of those threads. I remember that several were 500+ posts. I do agree with you though, more info is of course an asset. I just think in specific context to jay the amount of posts will need to be gone through and it will take considerable effort to do so. Whenever I see people latching on quickly to his statements, I become worried as he often appears to be one of the towniest players. I will also state that I have never played with scum jay. Because of the neutral-esque tone of his posts I assume it would be rather difficult to tell the difference.

@JJJ - What do you think Jay, how accurate is this?

I am more worried about people contributing only barely what they need to, even though they may be frequenting the thread such as RDW. His normal strategy is to go balls to the wall at several people to watch them squirm and then see what happens, his out of element behavior is bothersome. Or people I think are providing filler content. It is also harder to assess behavior compared to norms as I do not know well a bit over half of the players participating.