Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

#3701

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:So I'm a baddie who put this nutso plan into action on Day 0 and put all my chips on Matt not claiming Batman.

Hot damn, I can't believe I even made it to Night 2!
I think you got that backwards.
Turnip Head didn't put his chips on Matt not claiming Batman. Matt claiming Batman would be a good thing for TH. Matt not claiming Batman (clearly) doesn't make a difference.

You don't want to understand Zebra and that is a problem.
Then why did zebra say ths plan failed if Matt actually was batman
You know what I just properly read that post and I don't get it either, but she might be joking / mocking TH since the original context is the opposite. The post I quoted makes perfect sense from Zebra, and TH does have it backwards.

I'm not sure anybody knows what they're saying anymore.

You're right I did have it backwards. I didn't even understand my own crazy gambit.

#3702

#3703

Damn you baddies, damn you to hell

#3704

It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.

#3705

Matt wrote:Damn you baddies, damn you to hell

Don't mind this, random outburst.

#3706

Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.

Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!

#3707

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!

So what you're saying is, is that you're batman.

#3708

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!

But that's what convinced you that I'm not Alfred. Looks like my plan was doomed either way.

#3709

Matt said he's not Batman
and
people still think you're Alfred.

#3710

Enrique wrote:Matt said he's not Batman
and
people still think you're Alfred.

Oh I didn't realize that's where we're at.

#3711

Who still thinks he's Alfred?

#3712

Matt
Mattman
Battman
Batman

I'm the Batfred.

#3713

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!

Well, put in your own words, then, why you do not think TH could be Alfred.

#3714

Enrique wrote:Matt said he's not Batman
and
people still think you're Alfred.

People are also accusing him of faking being Alfred. Isn't that failure of the plan, if the plan is to easily coast on cleared civilian credit?

#3715

MacDougall wrote:Matt
Mattman
Battman
Batman

I'm the Batfred.

I think you'd make a glorious servant, fwiw.

#3716

This whole discussion is Pennyworthless.

#3717

So as it turns out Golden is actually Batman.

#3718

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!
Well, put in your own words, then, why you do not think TH could be Alfred.

who indeed svs this is the argument we're having

In my own words? I made this case, Golden, quit the bullshit. TH isn't Alfred because he led me on about Matt being Batman for a day and then Matt urged me to do something that he knew would end his game if he was Batman. You're free to read my other posts on this.

#3719

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!
Well, put in your own words, then, why you do not think TH could be Alfred.
who indeed svs this is the argument we're having

In my own words? I made this case, Golden, quit the bullshit. TH isn't Alfred because he led me on about Matt being Batman for a day and then Matt urged me to do something that he knew would end his game if he was Batman. You're free to read my other posts on this.

OK. So TH isn't Alfred because Matt isn't Batman. So what exactly am I being closed-minded about, because this sounds exactly like what I said in the top of this quote chain?

#3720

This thread 48 hours from now:

"Well that TH Alfred thing was strange, I don't really understand it or know what I think of it, but hopefully a TH lynch will maker things clearer. *vote* "

#3721

Golden and Enrique at it again...

I bet once it's over, they civ read each other.

#3722

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!
Well, put in your own words, then, why you do not think TH could be Alfred.
who indeed svs this is the argument we're having

In my own words? I made this case, Golden, quit the bullshit. TH isn't Alfred because he led me on about Matt being Batman for a day and then Matt urged me to do something that he knew would end his game if he was Batman. You're free to read my other posts on this.

I didn't lead you on that Matt was Batman, you came up with that all on your own.

#3723

...
she is not saying
he could be alfred
because he cant
christ.

#3724

Who cares just lynch me

#3725

Turnip Head wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:It's also problematic to say 'ths plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not batman because he could still be alfred' while simultaneously saying it is obvious that he is not Alfred after Matt said he wasn't batman. Those two things don't add up.
Nope. She's right. The plan doesn't fail when Matt says he is not Batman because he could still claim Alfred. It's like you're deliberately interpreting everything in the most accusatory was possible and
uh oh
being close minded!!!
Well, put in your own words, then, why you do not think TH could be Alfred.
who indeed svs this is the argument we're having

In my own words? I made this case, Golden, quit the bullshit. TH isn't Alfred because he led me on about Matt being Batman for a day and then Matt urged me to do something that he knew would end his game if he was Batman. You're free to read my other posts on this.
I didn't lead you on that Matt was Batman, you came up with that all on your own.

no
i
didnt

linki- ok

#3726

Turnip Head wrote:I didn't lead you on that Matt was Batman, you came up with that all on your own.

Enrique's been coming up with his own craziness all game and then blaming others ie "When I asked you who Joker was, you said Nero"

Can we lynch him tomorrow?

#3727

I'd rather lynch Enrique than Turnip Head.

#3728

*groans audibly*

#3729

yknow what imma jjj this one

th knows exactly what he did

#3730

Turning this around to TH's perspective Enrique.

You are claiming that TH started this game with a plan to claim Alfred, despite the fact that Alfred was otherwise alive. He then followed that with a plan to imply Matt was Batman, even though Matt could turn around and state he wasn't Batman. And he did all of this in the assumption that even after he implied that Matt was Batman, and Matt wasn't Batman, everyone would continue to believe he was Alfred and he would coast by on civ cred.

That's your theory.

Now, I'm not saying it is wrong. I'm just saying that TH coming up with the idea to fictionally claim a role that was 1) alive and 2) SO easily disprovable (by both the real Alfred and by forcing him to claim who Batman was, and being able to prove him wrong) doesn't seem that sensible, from TH's perspective. In fact, it seems pretty stupid. And the fact it seems pretty stupid that he would do that is a persuasive factor against your theory.

That's not to say your theory is wrong. It could be right. But you are so absolutely utterly convinced that there is no other explanation that you are trying desperately to fit all the facts into it, but when I point out facts that don't fit you just criticise me, instead of seeing me for what I'm doing... poking the holes in your theory and seeing if they can be filled.

This is how you catch baddies in an open minded manner. You create a theory. Then you test the theory. I'm testing the theory. But you and zebra get incredibly defensive about it being tested. You are both so utterly convinced you absolutely have to be right that anyone who questions it is sticking up for TH, blind, not seeing the facts, misunderstanding or not posting straight. You call zebra's posts obvious but then when you read it even you see it wasn't obvious. The very simple thing to do is to actually try and evaluate the holes and think about what they mean. But neither of you seem the slightest bit interested in doing that. You are so entrenched in your views that you just refuse to even come up with rational explanations, instead just reject the idea that an explanation is necessary and reject the idea that I could have a point when it comes to other explanations. And calling me closed-minded back, as though somehow the point of this is oneupmanship and being the one who comes out on top instead of trying to actually solve the game.

#3731

Enrique wrote:...
she is not saying
he could be alfred
because he cant
christ.

Why cant he?

#3732

say "facts" or "open minded" one more time

#3733

Enrique wrote:say "facts" or "open minded" one more time

Open minded facts.

#3734

that looks funny put together

#3735

open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts

#3736

Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts

How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?

#3737

When's the night over? Maybe my math was wrong, I thought it would end sometime around now.

#3738

Golden they are unwilling to listen to reason. Don't bother. Just let them lynch me and then no one will let Zebra or Enrique lead any more lynches.

#3739

Matt wrote:When's the night over? Maybe my math was wrong, I thought it would end sometime around now.

Like 40 minutes

#3740

Turnip Head wrote:Golden they are unwilling to listen to reason. Don't bother. Just let them lynch me and then no one will let Zebra or Enrique lead any more lynches.

I don't think they realise that the only people who are genuinely at likelihood of being lynched right now are the two of them.

#3741

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts
How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?

orange

#3742

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts
How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?
orange

Wow. Entirely abstract thinking is actually a further open mind. Well done.

#3743

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts
How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?

Shroooms

#3744

S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts
How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?
Shroooms

Nice.

#3745

S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:open your mind golden youre not listening to the facts
How would you propose I open my mind any further than I already have. Have you got even more explanations than me for what could be going on?
Shroooms

Also true. OK, so I could have a more open mind

In all seriousness though, it is the first time I've seen someone suggest that 'closed-mindedness' = 'not agreeing with my opinion'.

#3746

I wonder if Equivocate is coming back or if he ran for the hills after seeing how we treat new people.

#3747

Matt wrote:I wonder if Equivocate is coming back or if he ran for the hills after seeing how we treat new people.

Or he tried to read this thread and his mind went explosive and he died.

#3748

My god. I went to class and had like 6 pages to catch up on.

#3749

Are you all drunk and or high?

#3750

DharmaHelper wrote:I imagine this must be what cocaine is like.

Wise words DH wise words.

Who killed no one?