Rocky and Bullwinkle - The Legend of Frostbite Falls [Day 8]

[Scotty]

GTH mafia team right now: Sorsha, Long Con, and Scotty is seeming to be a very real possibility.

I suppose that my suspicions of Sorsha and Scotty are textbook distancing? At least take them before you take me.

[Sloonei]

Blaming the person who starts a bandwagon rather than the people who followed that wagon is not usually the best strategy

[indiglo]

Host question: what the heck is a CFD?

We had to look it up last night too! Now I don't feel so bad for not knowing.

[Scotty]

Lastly, (sorry I meant to say this before but I didn't think of it) I was OK with myself getting lynched over Sloonei at first during EoD d2 because we had the same number of votes, I was still inactive and was convinced I wouldn't properly get into the game in time, and I could see that he had heavily invested himself, particularly more than I had, and had a firmer grasp on the game. I was willing to make that sacrifice for the better of town, at least at first, but I'd rather not die now frankly if I don't have to.

"I was convinced I wouldn't properly get into the game in time"
Followed by 100 posts to prove you were. If Sloonei (or maybe Elo) had received no votes, I wonder if you would have come back so fiercely from PHd land to be so involved. Because it seems convenient.

Lol. Ok. Get this, and I have nothing to back this up, just a heads up:
My theory is that you are Fearless Leader and didn't have a care to the wind if you lose your immunity, but maybe had a change of heart when your partners announced themselves via some code, and that one of them had actually been on the chopping block.

[Scotty]

Ah, but see, that theory doesn't work if i still assume you smooched yourself. Because Natasha would not have been able to tell you she was blocked. That theory needs some work, sorry. Ignore me.

[Sloonei]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

[Scotty]

Regarding your lost? Well I would move everyone below yellow up a level then leave epi where he is

Maybe move Scotty and elo down

Oh yeah? Why's that? Because I look great in red? (I don't, the blue brings out my eyes more)

Linki: I'm getting there Sloons. Still a page behind

[Tangrowth]

I'm really annoyed by all of you frankly. Thankful I have a lot to accomplish today especially given my less than ideal productivity lately. Have fun hunting for mafia. I'll be back later to vote when I'm not pissed off.

Will that be before you've read the thread or after you've made eleven hundred posts in a row at the end of the Day while most people are at work?

What the hell is your problem? I had/have some kind of stomach virus and I've been busy with PhD work. I've tried to put my time into this game when I can. Why do you always have to belittle my attempts to contribute? You always call rainbow lists stupid, you call almost anything I ever do stupid. I'm so tired of it. Just play the game like you like and let me play the game like I like and get over your fucking self.

Host question: what the heck is a CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill. It refers to basically bandwagoning someone unexpectedly near the end of the Day.

Oh, yeah. That is stupid.

Is this comment fucking necessary, from the host at that?

CFDs can work by catching the mafia off guard. I thought none of the candidates for lynch were mafia and I stand by that, SO I FUCKING SUGGESTED SOMEONE ELSE. PEOPLE FOLLOWED ME. END OF STORY. STOP BLAMING ME FOR THIS.

I know I suck at mafia, I'm tired of it getting thrown in my face by literally every player in this thread, but especially Epi, and now even the host. Can we please just stop denouncing methods used by other people? It's really fucking irritating.

I'm really annoyed by all of you frankly.

No dead comments please. This was absolutely uncalled for. I'm so livid right now, indi, you shouldn't even be fucking talking.

I am so fucking pissed right now I can't even. I'm so done playing after this game.

I'm not posting anymore. Have fun playing your GD game, all of you.

[Tangrowth]

I'm voting for myself. Just lynch me. I refuse to play a game in which I spend hours of my time hunting my own ways, trying to get people to participate, only to have my methods denounced and for people to be rude to me. You all suspect me anyway so just get it over with. This is one of the most unfun times I've ever had in a game, and this is perhaps the most uncollaborative threads I've ever seen.

[Sloonei]

I would rather vote for someone who I don't believe to be town.

[Scotty]

Also regarding CFDs, disagree with my hunting if you wish, but I had e best interests of town at heart and I think that was evident. I also could not have accomplished the switch to indi if no one followed me. And let's not forget that I did it because I found the main candidates (Elo, me, Sloonei) unsatisfactory. Because they were.

CFD is stupid. It rarely works. Just like rainbow lists are bullshit. I'm sorry, but a lot of the stuff brought over from RYM just sucks. Y'all keep on with it if it makes you happy, but not this cowboy.

You can do whatever you want but I would appreciate it if we didn't mock each other's methods. I'm so fucking sick of the rainbow list bashing. I can't ever go a game without someone complaining about it. Just shut up about it everyone. It gets real old real fast.

I like my socks white, like my chocolate.

If the strategy works, then I'm all for it. I'm not going to get into the semantics of your lists, because everyone has lists. Yours can just stick out which makes it more easily accessible for everyone. Which is a double edged sword. I mean, I generally like them, except when I'm on the bottom. Then I don't care for them.

Linki: ok Mp. I'm sorry you're not having fun if you're not just actually appealing to emotion right now. I'm only on you because I think you're bad, and, as I said yesterday, your flip would make me feel better about a myriad of people. You are reading me wrong as you read indiglo wrong, and I just don't think that is a civ-minded thinker.

[thellama73]

Host question: what the heck is a CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill. It refers to basically bandwagoning someone unexpectedly near the end of the Day.

Oh, yeah. That is stupid.

Is this comment fucking necessary, from the host at that?

I only said it because I knew it would get your goat.

[Scotty]

Actually, I missed that long linki. Can I just have a heart to heart with you for a sec, MP? I don't care what alignment you are, but let me be frank.

You are a great person. You put your heart into the ring of the game, even when you don't have time. And especially when you don't have time, I see that pull and that desire to want to be more involved even more, and I've been there. It stresses me the fuck out, and I know you must be even more stressed.

I think you are a great player and I would hate that you would quit in the wake of a perception where no one gives a shit about what you have to say, and how everyone seems out to get you. It's super frustrating, and it's not a reflection of who you are as a person or a player.

I wanted to quit after Recruitment IV because I had over 1,000 posts in that game, really had a great time but I spent WAY too much time ISOing people, doing everything in my power to win. But I always felt like I had people shooting me down, and when I died late in the game, and didn't win, it felt fruitless. Like, I expected everyone to have put in as much work and hours as I had that game, or at least that I would get a reward of some sort for the amount of effort I threw into it. I felt shorted and it was quite a demoralizing loss. I felt like a bad player and no one cared about what i did or didn't do.

I'm fairly new here, relatively. And I have seen a huge influx from the veterans of the site appealing more and more to emotion regarding the way things used to be, and the general feel of threads being more confrontational. I feel like there is a slight disconnect somewhere, and anticipate that the MOD on duty function is not being utilized: helping settle personal attacks on behaviors and ethics.

You're the man. This is your site as much as it is any of the recruits that make up for it. From student to teacher: I have found to take nothing personal online, and to approach things here as I would my work. I'm an actor as you know, and get rejected. A lot. When I mentally prepare for a role, and spend hours combing over sides and plays and songs and shit, and go in to the audition and think I fucking killed it, I used to get really overhyped. I expected something from the auditor. I had an end result, for sure. But where I went wrong, and what made me feel disenfranchised down the line, was that the results weren't coming, and it wasn't fun anymore. I forgot what it meant to be a performer, I forgot what I had signed up for. It started turning into a routine of getting up with guarded expectations, and a sad veil of desperation for wanting to be better.

But then I decided one day and just said "fuck it" and went in to just say the lines. Have a moment in a room with some others, and forget about it. I'd cram for an audition, walk in like I didn't have anything to fight for, and just did the part. And I started booking. And those that I was rejected from? I don't even remember those. I just remember experiencing a moment in time with some strangers.

in application to Mafia, I regrouped, and decided that it wasn't, in fact, the be-all-end-all if I didn't win a game. I've been personally attacked on my character, and it doesn't phase me. I rarely get incensed with games because I take nothing seriously. Lately I put in what I feel like I want to put in. And if people find that suspicious, then oh well. I don't owe anyone here anything, and I shouldn't expect people to believe me in any capacity of alignment.

You've had more experience than I have in Mafia, and for sure on this site. I ask that you don't let this get you down. Because I truly treasure everyone on this site, including you. I really do like playing with you. And I would hope that the pissing matches that some people have been getting into are just game-related and don't transition into the real world. My mom taught me the saying: "what other people think of me is none of my business" and I stand by it. We can't control what everyone says it does, but we can control how we take what other people say about or to us.

Also, you've just reminded me that I need to get new socks. No joke, I just noticed a giant hole on my left one right now. Don't buy 5-Star Walmart brand socks, kiddos.

[Scotty]

Tldr: Let's get beers after we lynch you in this game for being bad, MP.

[thellama73]

I think what Scotty said is absolutely right and I'd wager the sentiment is shared widely across the site. I know it is by me.

For now, though, I'm going to ask that we take this discussion out of the thread. MP, I have contacted you via PM, and I welcome a discussion with you. You can also feel free to vent to Turnip Head, the Mod on Duty. I think that we are all friends and we all respect each other, so we should be able to work this out. In the meantime, I hope people can still enjoy the game.

[Epignosis]

I almost got lynched because of an uninformed vote. Hell yes I'm going to criticize that play.

Day 2 scrambling resulted in Rocky getting lynched. Hell yes I'm going to criticize that play.

Both times, people have forced my hand to save civilians rather than lynch Mafia. Hell yes I'm going to criticize that play.

I'm sorry if you are upset, MP, but Mafia is about scrutinizing people and their reasons for doing what they do. You have two phases under your belt that have been detrimental to civilians. That warrants scrutiny and criticism.

That's all I'm going to say about that.

[Turnip Head]

I think what Scotty said is absolutely right and I'd wager the sentiment is shared widely across the site. I know it is by me.

For now, though, I'm going to ask that we take this discussion out of the thread. MP, I have contacted you via PM, and I welcome a discussion with you. You can also feel free to vent to Turnip Head, the Mod on Duty. I think that we are all friends and we all respect each other, so we should be able to work this out. In the meantime, I hope people can still enjoy the game.

Yes please. Vent to me, I promise I will listen. Everybody's here to have fun

[Tangrowth]

Everyone, I'm sorry. The last thing I want to do is create nastiness or drama in the thread and I did just that. I clearly should have vented to the MoD or stepped away from the game. It's a wonderful game, Llama, really, but I just don't think I can play anymore -- and it's nothing personal. So please replace me now if you can. I love playing mafia games, but I really should keep the playing aspect out of my life for a while. It's too damn stressful amid everything else, and every time I think I have the emotional capacity to handle them, it turns out to be false. Please accept my apologies, everyone, for ruining this game, and please just continue onward. If you suspect me, great, then lynch me. I just don't have the motivation to continue anymore.

[Tangrowth]

I'll just change my vote to the non-player option or something because I just can't play anymore. I hope that's an OK move.

[Tangrowth]

Scotty, I appreciate your post and your kind words. I really do. Same from others, thanks. I'll just leave this game alone now, sorry.

[Ricochet]

Host question: what the heck is a CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill. It refers to basically bandwagoning someone unexpectedly near the end of the Day.

Oh, yeah. That is stupid.

It's meant, in theory, to test the mafia's reactions in such a situation. Even better if the CFD would land on one of theirs.

[Sloonei]

So, was no one else vote-forced on Day 2? Just MP?

I was not, I'm voting Scotty of my own volition.

[Sloonei]

I should apologize for being so singularly focused on Scotty right now, but I don't really have time to develop other cases in depth at the moment. The town reads I expressed yesterday were MP, SVS, and Elohcin. All three of those still stand. Sorsha has been invisible and while I've only played a couple games with her so far, I've already come to expect her to be more of a presence in the thread. I should understand more than anyone right now the limitations that real life can put on Mafia activity, but she hasn't offered up any explanation other than feeling lost and being uncertain, which doesn't inspire me to read her as good at all. Plus her reaction to MP's fire drill both during and after the fact raise a few alarms. She was a willing participant, and then seemed to blame MP when the result turned bad, while also sayinn she herself should not be blamed because she's "just one vote". Seems a bit blindly hypocritical, unless I'm misunderstanding her stance on MP.

I will need to dig further if I'm going to come up with a third suspect. Everything else I've got is little more than unsubstantiated hunch-based suspicion, and that's not worth sharing.

[thellama73]

Effective immediately, Matt is replacing MovingPictures07

[Epignosis]

Hi Matt. Are you bad?

[Scotty]

I'm sorry it's gotten to that point, Mp! I do look forward to playing with you again if and when you choose to play again.

Effective immediately, Matt is replacing MovingPictures07

Is he exempt from votes today?

I want to give Matt a chance here, but I still think MP's actions reflected on his role, and I can't shake that feeling that he is just a frustrated baddie.

I'm going to agree with Sloonei's sentiment that I have been entirely focused on Mp and could focus my attention elsewhere.

Sprityo and Wilgy are suspicious to me.

Sprityo for offering no reason why he suspects me, except that he thinks I should be at the bottom of the rainbow list. Well sprityo, I think horses should be made of cotton candy. Doesn't mean they are or ever will be.

Wilgy has not offered anything in this game in terms of substance. frankly I don't remember much of what he has offered to the table. He seems wholly agreeable and that always makes me pause.

[Matt]

Yo yo!

Hi Matt. Are you bad?

Bad at mafia? Yes Bad in this game? Nope!

I haven't read any of the thread yet besides the last 5 or so posts of MP's ISO, but I can tell you that his meltdown was very genuine and ya all should be ashamed of yourselves. Tsk tsk.

Anyway, will be catching up on the thread today and will deliver my thoughts on who is bad (ie prolly whoever was being a meanie to MP) and we'll go from there!

[thellama73]

I'm sorry it's gotten to that point, Mp! I do look forward to playing with you again if and when you choose to play again.

Effective immediately, Matt is replacing MovingPictures07

Is he exempt from votes today?

Nope. If you can find him on the poll, you are free to vote for him.

[Sloonei]

What thoughts do we all have on Bea? This is the first time we've played together, I think.

[Scotty]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

[Scotty]

What thoughts do we all have on Bea? This is the first time we've played together, I think.

She's usually busy working 25 hour days, so I had nothing on her until today. I tend to agree with her opinion of Elo and I'm leaning civ right now.

[Sloonei]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

[Tangrowth]

Hey all, sorry again for my behavior. I especially want to apologize to Epi, indi, and our wonderful llama host since it was their posts I lashed out against. I dun goofed by not going to the MoD and just walking away. I can't stress that enough; the Mod on Duty function is there and I think many of us, myself even included, aren't taking full advantage of its purpose. I want to thank Llama for hosting the great game and a big thanks to Matt for stepping in for me at this time. I'll be out for good now.

I absolutely detest getting stressed out by these games, but it doesn't seem to ever matter how much work I really have to do or how much I try not to involve myself in the game, it always eventually lands me in trouble now that I'm in the PhD program it seems. I just am battling some inner demons (and have been throughout the program) and I let my recent sense of insecurity with regards to my current (lack of, or at least that's my feeling) progress in the program spill over into the game. It's my own fault, really. I'm putting this in green because I don't feel it is appropriate for me to say anything else on-topic, but I realize that in the end all of what I'm saying will inevitably influence the game -- I wanted all of this to be said regardless. Even though I've flirted with taking playing breaks over the last half a year, I think I just really need to force myself away from playing for a while, get some perspective, and at least get through the next couple of semesters first. I took a couple of month break missing out on Recruitment, Champions, etc., but apparently it just doesn't matter because of everything I'm dealing with throughout the program. I just don't get any real social interaction in any aspect of my life right now, and you all are truly awesome and a treasured part of my life, so that's what keeps dragging me back into playing. I just really enjoy playing these games with you all so much. It's a weird conundrum.

Anyway, I'll be definitely around with Smashfest, other OT stuff, and I'm more than happy to host mafia games too -- that isn't nearly as stressful an experience for me. Guess I'll just have to exercise more self-discipline re: playing. For those of you who signed up for Turf Wars, I'll see you there soon.

[Scotty]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

Hmm. Ok.

The thing that I usually gravitate toward in games is concrete stats. Did this person vote this way because of this reason. I see save opportunities on day 1, but I find day 1 saves to be an aberration. My suspicion of you was hinging on your behavior and what I perceived as doublespeak in calling me out for making fluff posts when you yourself were fluffy as an alpaca. i don't like being suspected for little to no reason and I'd like to do what I can to change your mind on that, if you are in fact good. if.

[Scotty]

Hey all, sorry again for my behavior. I especially want to apologize to Epi, indi, and our wonderful llama host since it was their posts I lashed out against. I dun goofed by not going to the MoD and just walking away. I can't stress that enough; the Mod on Duty function is there and I think many of us, myself even included, aren't taking full advantage of its purpose. I want to thank Llama for hosting the great game and a big thanks to Matt for stepping in for me at this time. I'll be out for good now.

I absolutely detest getting stressed out by these games, but it doesn't seem to ever matter how much work I really have to do or how much I try not to involve myself in the game, it always eventually lands me in trouble now that I'm in the PhD program it seems. I just am battling some inner demons (and have been throughout the program) and I let my recent sense of insecurity with regards to my current (lack of, or at least that's my feeling) progress in the program spill over into the game. It's my own fault, really. I'm putting this in green because I don't feel it is appropriate for me to say anything else on-topic, but I realize that in the end all of what I'm saying will inevitably influence the game -- I wanted all of this to be said regardless. Even though I've flirted with taking playing breaks over the last half a year, I think I just really need to force myself away from playing for a while, get some perspective, and at least get through the next couple of semesters first. I took a couple of month break missing out on Recruitment, Champions, etc., but apparently it just doesn't matter because of everything I'm dealing with throughout the program. I just don't get any real social interaction in any aspect of my life right now, and you all are truly awesome and a treasured part of my life, so that's what keeps dragging me back into playing. I just really enjoy playing these games with you all so much. It's a weird conundrum.

Anyway, I'll be definitely around with Smashfest, other OT stuff, and I'm more than happy to host mafia games too -- that isn't nearly as stressful an experience for me. Guess I'll just have to exercise more self-discipline re: playing. For those of you who signed up for Turf Wars, I'll see you there soon.

im batting inner demons from eating too many bananas and no matter how much fiber I ingest, they won't come out any way but forcibly.

[Scotty]

People who are voting for Elo: Why are you doing this?

I'm not. Lots of posting last night. I have read through, now I'll go back and do a couple of responses. I'd vote for Scotty. Not for Epi. Not for Eloh. Not prepared to slam it down on Sloonei/MP right now. Indiglo may be bad, I don't have a good read there right now, but I'll vote indi to save any of the folks I listed as not bad.

Why would you vote for me, Shorty?

Little things. Your barefoot like moose comment felt like a soft roleclaim that was sketchy and gave me a ping. I'd have to go back and really put together why, part of it is recalling your actions on Day 0/1 as questionable.

I know that's not anything solid. Guess you'd call it a gut feel.

How's the gut feeling going? Are you still having stomach pains or do you have a better idea of why I'm one of your suspects?

[Sloonei]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

Hmm. Ok.

The thing that I usually gravitate toward in games is concrete stats. Did this person vote this way because of this reason. I see save opportunities on day 1, but I find day 1 saves to be an aberration. My suspicion of you was hinging on your behavior and what I perceived as doublespeak in calling me out for making fluff posts when you yourself were fluffy as an alpaca. i don't like being suspected for little to no reason and I'd like to do what I can to change your mind on that, if you are in fact good. if.

I do not consider my case on you to be insubstantial just because it's based on tone. I usually judge people on their tone, how they interact with everything in the thread. It's worked well for me plenty of times in the past. But it is insubstantial in that I haven't shared any evidence for it in a while. This is a thing I'd like to do when I am home.
I'm pretty sure you already know I'm good.

[sprityo]

MP, give me your current points against Wilgy and long con and I'll respond on what I think about those

Those are two of the harder players to read right now in my opinion.

They both, from what I can tell anyway, seem to be staying out of the limelight of the game; they haven't received a ton of attention and they're far from supatowning it up by providing opinions on players. Long Con's approach is very "makes a comment here and there, but commits to nothing major" IMO, whereas Wilgy is just being an enigma. I really don't understand where his opinions are coming from.

What do you think of them?

Just now replying to this but, I can relate to longcon's playstyle, it's a safe way to avoid attention while not being absent, I'll look at what wilgy's been saying and post those later

[Sloonei]

MP, give me your current points against Wilgy and long con and I'll respond on what I think about those

Those are two of the harder players to read right now in my opinion.

They both, from what I can tell anyway, seem to be staying out of the limelight of the game; they haven't received a ton of attention and they're far from supatowning it up by providing opinions on players. Long Con's approach is very "makes a comment here and there, but commits to nothing major" IMO, whereas Wilgy is just being an enigma. I really don't understand where his opinions are coming from.

What do you think of them?

Just now replying to this but, I can relate to longcon's playstyle, it's a safe way to avoid attention while not being absent, I'll look at what wilgy's been saying and post those later

What do you mean when you say you can "relate to Long Con's playing style"? I look forward to your wilgy investigation.

[Scotty]

Am I still suspicious, Scotty?

Forgot to better answer this:
Yes and no.

I think you are less suspicious to me as you were to me in day 1, but a lot of my suspicion in you right now is predicated on MP/Matt flipping. You backed off considerably as Mp went to bat for you. Dropped off the face of the earth, if you will. But enough to come back and say you're up my asshole with suspicion, so there's that. Is there anything in particular you want me to respond to that I've missed, or am i just gonna stay in your crosshairs until you see me mislynchdd?

There isn't anything you can address specifically for me. I think you're bad more for the tone of your posts than anything you've said, really. I'll be home Saturday and hopefully if I'm still alive by then i can say more things and widen my scope.

Hmm. Ok.

The thing that I usually gravitate toward in games is concrete stats. Did this person vote this way because of this reason. I see save opportunities on day 1, but I find day 1 saves to be an aberration. My suspicion of you was hinging on your behavior and what I perceived as doublespeak in calling me out for making fluff posts when you yourself were fluffy as an alpaca. i don't like being suspected for little to no reason and I'd like to do what I can to change your mind on that, if you are in fact good. if.

I do not consider my case on you to be insubstantial just because it's based on tone. I usually judge people on their tone, how they interact with everything in the thread. It's worked well for me plenty of times in the past. But it is insubstantial in that I haven't shared any evidence for it in a while. This is a thing I'd like to do when I am home.
I'm pretty sure you already know I'm good.

No. I don't know anything for certain. But thanks for assuming

[Matt]

I like your new profile pic Eloh

Thank you

I feel compelled to tell everyone that I will be living out my normal (real life) routine throughout the entirety of this game. This means that I shall be mostly available and responsive as long as no one floods the thread with so many posts that I cannot keep up.

I'm 100% for a relaxed game.

You may want to sit down, sir, I have some bad news...

[DrWilgy]

I'm sorry it's gotten to that point, Mp! I do look forward to playing with you again if and when you choose to play again.

Effective immediately, Matt is replacing MovingPictures07

Is he exempt from votes today?

I want to give Matt a chance here, but I still think MP's actions reflected on his role, and I can't shake that feeling that he is just a frustrated baddie.

I'm going to agree with Sloonei's sentiment that I have been entirely focused on Mp and could focus my attention elsewhere.

Sprityo and Wilgy are suspicious to me.

Sprityo for offering no reason why he suspects me, except that he thinks I should be at the bottom of the rainbow list. Well sprityo, I think horses should be made of cotton candy. Doesn't mean they are or ever will be.

Wilgy has not offered anything in this game in terms of substance. frankly I don't remember much of what he has offered to the table. He seems wholly agreeable and that always makes me pause.

I disagree.

[Elohcin]

Had a long day yesterday. Catching up now.

Glad Mafia is being merciful and killing off low-posters. More content = more power

C'mon SVS...is it you? I think you're playing with our heads haha.

OR, is someone trying to frame SVS. *ponder, ponder*

Scotty, this post makes me wonder about you. "More content = more power". I think it would be like you to do this kind of kill and then make a statement about it like that.

I am quite busy atm but when I get a chance, I am going to reread you.

[Sloonei]

Also regarding CFDs, disagree with my hunting if you wish, but I had e best interests of town at heart and I think that was evident. I also could not have accomplished the switch to indi if no one followed me. And let's not forget that I did it because I found the main candidates (Elo, me, Sloonei) unsatisfactory. Because they were.

CFD is stupid. It rarely works. Just like rainbow lists are bullshit. I'm sorry, but a lot of the stuff brought over from RYM just sucks. Y'all keep on with it if it makes you happy, but not this cowboy.

Hey whoa wait, we've never even heard of Chinese Fire Drills before. And we borrowed the rainbows from last year's champs tournament.

Also my read-through of Epi's post history may have just bumped him ahead of Scotty on my, ahem, Rainbow List.

[S~V~S]

Had a long day yesterday. Catching up now.

Glad Mafia is being merciful and killing off low-posters. More content = more power

C'mon SVS...is it you? I think you're playing with our heads haha.

OR, is someone trying to frame SVS. *ponder, ponder*

Scotty, this post makes me wonder about you. "More content = more power". I think it would be like you to do this kind of kill and then make a statement about it like that.

I am quite busy atm but when I get a chance, I am going to reread you.

No it isn't me. I did that in one game, and now every time it happens it was me?

Back in the day, well before your time, killing low posters was kind of the norm for us pre Syndicate.

[Sorsha]

I should apologize for being so singularly focused on Scotty right now, but I don't really have time to develop other cases in depth at the moment. The town reads I expressed yesterday were MP, SVS, and Elohcin. All three of those still stand. Sorsha has been invisible and while I've only played a couple games with her so far, I've already come to expect her to be more of a presence in the thread. I should understand more than anyone right now the limitations that real life can put on Mafia activity, but she hasn't offered up any explanation other than feeling lost and being uncertain, which doesn't inspire me to read her as good at all. Plus her reaction to MP's fire drill both during and after the fact raise a few alarms. She was a willing participant, and then seemed to blame MP when the result turned bad, while also sayinn she herself should not be blamed because she's "just one vote". Seems a bit blindly hypocritical, unless I'm misunderstanding her stance on MP.

I will need to dig further if I'm going to come up with a third suspect. Everything else I've got is little more than unsubstantiated hunch-based suspicion, and that's not worth sharing.

Why does being lost and uncertain not inspire good feelings to you? The Mafia are the ones who know who is civ and who isn't, the civs are the ones who start out the most lost and uncertain in any game.

I was quiet over the night period on purpose. MP looked like he was going into attack mode on me after the lynch and I wanted everyone to have a chance to see what went down during the lynch before I got sucked into a posting battle with MP. I think enough of us have seen enough of those in games recently. Then the thread took a turn and I wasn't about to come tiptoe into that shit.

Go ahead and criticize me for my vote, I don't care, but what I said about MP is true. He did bail on the wagon he started and it felt like once indi flipped civ he turned on me. I did agree with the points he raised about indi. He raised points about other players too and I didn't think his cases on them were as strong as the indi case. Like I said earlier, he came into the thread and was reading and posting quickly. I was taking those reads as mostly gut-motivated reads, similar to the gth we do sometimes.

So I'm sure this will just be taken as an excuse but since others get to blame their schedule I'd like to at least get to explain mine. I work third shift and get done at 4:30 am, the poll closes around 9:30am my time. Im usually asleep by then but I stayed up because of all the nonsense that went on last minute during the day one lynch. I didn't expect to really be a part of the day two nonsense but i still didn't have a good grip on who I found bad so I went with an indi vote, because like I said earlier, I agreed with the case MP made.

[a2thezebra]

Had a long day yesterday. Catching up now.

Glad Mafia is being merciful and killing off low-posters. More content = more power

C'mon SVS...is it you? I think you're playing with our heads haha.

OR, is someone trying to frame SVS. *ponder, ponder*

Scotty, this post makes me wonder about you. "More content = more power". I think it would be like you to do this kind of kill and then make a statement about it like that.

I am quite busy atm but when I get a chance, I am going to reread you.

Another day, another vote for Elohcin.

After two kills of silent players in a row, I'm way more suspicious of anyone who takes issue with comments about killing off the silent players than the people commenting about killing off the silent players themselves. What I mean by that is that it makes more sense to me that mafia would do this so that they could fish for comments like Scotty's (a perfectly natural and accurate statement about the game) and call it suspicious because they can pull out the "you planned this so you could say this" card. I don't get why so many players started reading Elohcin as civ out of nowhere.

[Matt]

Still catching up, but I'm a little saddened that my only two welcomes also came in the form of suspicions.

[a2thezebra]

Still catching up, but I'm a little saddened that my only two welcomes also came in the form of suspicions.

Welcome, Matt. I don't suspect you. I suspected MP though so you gotta come through with the town game.

[Sloonei]

Welcome Matt! I think MP was town and therefore I think you are also town.