[END] Bioshock Mafia

#1751

For the record, I'm glad to get something real out of Zany Dex.

Dex, I feel the same way a Spacedaisy. I meant absolutely no disparagement to your person or to the way you play mafia. If you're having fun you're doing it right, as far as I'm concerned. I simply suspect you of being a baddie, so I voted you, but please don't take that to mean I haven't enjoyed your presence in the game.

#1752

insertnamehere wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:The last few days have been very hectic with moving, setting up the Internet so it freaking works, and the holiday to top it all off. I haven't been able to play, and I apologize to MP, and everyone else in this game.

After reading up, the case that makes the most sense is Bea's case on Bullzeye. Not only has she voted civ four weeks out of five, her posts seem very suspicious to me. Her posts seen very frantic and eager to shift the blame onto someone else. I can sense almost a little bit of coaching too.

Dex is acting weird yes, but Bullzeye in my opinion is acting as weird.
First off, She? That's news to me...

Second, I've been playing mafia for nearly three years now, I haven't needed coaching in a long time. If you're going to parrot Dom's thoughts I'll ask you as well what should I be doing if stating my own suspicions apparently makes me bad?
Instead of just saying "I just have bad instincts, stop focusing on me, look at these people." you could give an actual defense.

I defended myself initially but the original case against me is only based on my votes for Ace (instead of BWT) and Llama. All I can say in my defense there is I wasn't that into the case on BWT so I didn't vote for him. I wasn't trying to save a teammate by voting Ace instead. When I voted Llama I voted for someone who had defended a revealed baddie. When Bea brought up my voting record I said I obviously just haven't had great instincts this game but then neither have a lot of people or we'd have lynched more baddies.

Bea directly asked me who other than her I found suspicious (a fact which my chief accusers seem to conveniently ignore when trying to paint me as evasive) so I told her. I made a case against Dex based on the lack of content his posts have had leading me to believe he's not working in the interests of the civvies. I've never once told anybody to not focus on me, and have many times said I don't mind people being suspicious of me. This is another fact certain players seem to ignore.

I'd like you to point out this so-called coaching I've had as well. I've never before heard anyone accuse someone of being coached when it wasn't one of their first games. I don't claim to be a brilliant player but I'd hope I'm good enough by now to be able to play without someone holding my hand.

#1753

Ive read through boomslangs posts. I'll admit to being a bit confused by them. Voted dex each day except the boo day, frequently with the same group of players. Analyzing vote patterns is not my strong suit though.

What I noticed is that while sticking to your guns and tenaciously voting dex, you ofcourse haven't been able to make much of a case on him. I mean, that would be difficult considering his style. Or his style is the case, whatever. You have said a few things about snow dog. Have you not considered snow dog worthy of a vote?

Also, you have agreed with a lot of what Bea has posted, and yet you found it odd that I didn't suspect Bea at first.

I do suspect her now and plan on voting her today. I would very much like to read what your point was though about agreeing so much with Bea, but being pinged by me for not being immediately suspicious of her. I don't understand.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1754

Sorry Bullz if you are civ, but I've been suspicious of you for a couple days and it's time I go ahead and *vote bullz*

I think it looks like Bea is more likely to be the lynchee today, and I think it's also pretty likely she's bad so it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. Mata, you said if bea flips bad you would instantly believe Dom is bad as well? Is that based on his pushing for Bullz or something else?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1755

ebwop: now that I see the poll, Bullz has more votes than Bea at this point. but I see more people saying they intend to vote for bea.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1756

double ebwop -- Dex also has as many votes as bullz. Well this will certainly be an interesting vote split.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1757

triple ebwop -- wow I use the word "interesting" way too much it sounds dumb

#1758

Voting Dex. I've explained why already and I'd urge all civvies to do the same. Lynching me will only disappoint people.

#1759

nutella wrote:Sorry Bullz if you are civ, but I've been suspicious of you for a couple days and it's time I go ahead and *vote bullz*

I think it looks like Bea is more likely to be the lynchee today, and I think it's also pretty likely she's bad so it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. Mata, you said if bea flips bad you would instantly believe Dom is bad as well? Is that based on his pushing for Bullz or something else?

Nutella, it wasn't me who said that, but I'll look back and see who it was.

#1760

NutelLA- you might be remembering this, but while looking back I saw several other people making a Bea/Dom connection also.

Nevinera wrote:This is a bit drive-by, but I've been pretty busy, and I have to vote early again because of work plans.

The strange behavior by dom read very much like someone desperately defending a teammate to me.
I am voting bea, both for the same reasons as before AND because of the potential two-for-one if she flips baddie
(because there's no way that dom is civ if bea is not).

#1761

Bea's late vote on Day 2 makes me think she's bird's teammate, and that has not changed at all, so I'm voting for bea. If Bullzeye is bird's teammate, that wouldn't surprise me either.

#1762

Matahari wrote:
This is evidence of what? And what mind changing are you trying to do? I'm sorry, I'm just not getting your point. If previous concerns mean pings about a person, then possibly no one else has had any pings about me.

However, you are getting pings from me, is it because you feel that I am defending Dex? And the same about Bea, do you think I have defended her? I do give players the botd sometimes, but only when I absolutely have no idea about their affiliation. They go on my observe list.

Let me ask you what you think of Beas attempt to fight fire with fire? She was suspected based on a vote. She defended the way Bea defends, then she defended in a sarcastic way (funny, but sarcastic) now she is using vote patterns to defend. At this point, I'd say she has a baddie team backing her up, but I have no clue which baddie team. It would be very frustrating for a baddie, to get caught early based on their vote, when they are actually on an opposing team. I also agree with indiglo that it seems uncharacteristic of Bea to go so hard for a new player, although at this point, I agree that gob is not doing anything to defend.

Which brings me to dex. I will admit that I gave up trying to 'read' dex a long time ago. I am always wrong about him no matter what I think he is, so for me, he is comic relief. I think he is better at being a baddie than a civ, based on the fact that he gets lynched as a civ a lot, early on. So, would you mind saying whether you are advocating a vote for dex, or for Bea? I will reread you today, if you have already made cases on either of them, I might have missed it.

Well, I feel like you've been more tolerant of Dex than I have, which I suppose is just a matter of personal taste, and obviously you're not defending bea, as you just cast a vote for her. I really haven't played enough to determine if bea's defenses are typical or not. I do think that a bea lynch today will give us the most information (or more information than a Dex lynch, at least), and there seems to be enough momentum for it to happen. So I'll lend my strength to that push and *vote bea*. I do think Snowdog is worth votes, but there isn't enough support for that to happen yet.

#1763

Ok.this is where I am. I need to vote now. I voted Bea last time and see no reason to change that. I think she is bad and I hope we soon see that. Dex can wait for another day, as can Bullz and Dom if there is anything there. If Bea is bad then Dom will be getting attention next. I don't know why boomslang thinks I'm bad, perhaps he can tell me at some time.

Votes Bea.

#1764

After going over the latest back and forth, I really am not convinced about Bullz, he's coming off as plausibly frustrated civvie. I could be way off on that, but the fact that Dom and LA keep going after him on (in my view) fairly weak reasoning gives me pause. And Bea has seemed helpful civ to me lately, or at least I've found myself agreeing with her on several points.

As for Dex, I really don't think he's being helpful at all, and honestly his refusal to defend or offer any suspicions whatsoever has me looking his way. I don't know as I'll be around for the end of the lynch, so I'll vote now. *votes Dex*

#1765

The host isn't liking the prospect of so many missing votes, especially after extending the deadline. He very much hopes many of the remaining votes will come in time... or he might just have to continue dishing out punishments.

#1766

The host can put a sock in it!

Oh wait.

#1767

Alright, well not much has changed today. While I appreciated Dex's longest reply yet, I am going to vote for him again. As others have said, definitely not intended as a personal attack.

Votes Dex

#1768

Okay I'm going to go with bea. If she dies and is bad Dom will more than likely be my next vote.

#1769

DAY 6

Who is Parasite?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:05 pm

AceofSpaces
0
No votes

Ajira
0
No votes

bea
6
Nevinera (9), Matahari (12), Epignosis (15), Boomslang (16), Snow Dog (17), DisgruntledPorcupine (19) 30%

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
4
Zany Dex (3), Dom (5), insertnamehere (11), nutella (13) 20%

Devin the Omniscient
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
0
No votes

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Epignosis
0
No votes

Flyin' High
0
No votes

G.O.B.
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

indiglo
0
No votes

insertnamehere
0
No votes

Matahari
0
No votes

Nevinera
0
No votes

nutella
0
No votes

Russtifinko
0
No votes

Snow Dog
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

>SpaghettiEverywhere
0
No votes

Zany Dex
7
Russtifinko (6), Devin the Omniscient (7), bea (8), Spacedaisy (10), Bullzeye (14), DFaraday (18), Hedgeowl (20) 35%

Stephen King, the bastard! (deadies, non-players, host)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), thellama73 (2), Mongoose (4) 15%
Total votes : 20

Missed the vote: AceofSpaces, Ajira, DharmaHelper, Flyin' High, G.O.B., indiglo, >SpaghettiEverywhere

#1770

Wow, 7 missed votes? How troubling...

#1771

Day 6: Deja Vu

bea buzzed around, looking for a parasite. She knew there had to be one about somewhere!

Buzzz...... Buzzz.....

Many hours later, bea grew weary. She couldn't keep this up anymore. She decided to rest midair for a few minutes. It wasn't longer than a few seconds before she heard someone yelling gibberish. She couldn't understand it because he was not a person, but a bot. In reality, there was one member of a Splicer crowd yelling: "I found one! That way!!!"

The Splicers advanced on bea. Although she tried to fly away, a few of the Splicers were shooting at her, and it soon took its toll. She began to lose elevation. Then, out of nowhere, a Houdini Splicer teleported right in front her. "Hello there!!" It set bea on fire. The Splicers then surrounded the poor bot and attacked it until it would no longer function.

bea has been lynched. She was Security Bot.

To be continued...

#1772

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, 7 missed votes? How troubling...

Ooooh, what are you going to do?

#1773

Day 6: The Vita Chamber

Andrew Ryan was disturbed. That parasite was getting ever closer and closer to him and he began to fear the worst. He knew he had to do something. Then it came to him: The Vita Chamber. Perhaps resurrecting one of the recently deceased would not only bring back a powerful ally... but if he allowed the masses to elect their comrade to see second life, it would also unite his forces in one last final effort to save him and the city from this pesky intruder.

“Dingdododo.” The familiar sound once again rang over the Rapture Radio system. A public address announcement was sure to follow.

“Attention: Ryan Industries is offering the event of a lifetime: Vote to resurrect a fallen hero at a nearby Vita Chamber! The dead individual who receives the most votes will see second life!”

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Audio Diary #21: Dr. Yi Suchong – “The Vita Chamber”

It is now Night 6. You have 24 hours to send in your night PMs and vote for a player to be resurrected by the Vita Chamber.

#1774

Well... it appears we have some especially defiant players this time around. insertnamehere refused his public penance, so he will be further punished. DharmaHelper has now missed two consecutive votes, so it's time for another round of public penance! Additionally, those who have missed any votes, even if this is their first, will be punished, as usual... and those who are missing more than one by now will be further punished.

Apparently, certain players are just asking for punishments. Who am I to deny them?

#1775

RIP Bea. Sorry to have read you all wrong.

#1776

I was going to suggest bringing bea back but she isn't in the poll...

#1777

Bea! I was afraid of that.

#1778

Oh no! I thought her posts had seemed civ, but later on when people were mentioning link between her and Dom I was almost convinced. Sorry to see you go, bea.

#1779

Damn, bea.

#1780

Damn, still no luck.
Sorry Bea :-\

As I said before, I'm fairly confident that Mongoose is a civ, for undisclosed reasons that I think several of you will agree with.

#1781

Dex had more votes than Bea. I'm going back to look at roles again.

#1782

#1783

Rip me. Hate to tell you guys I told you so....but.... ya know...

Oh well, I had an awesome day of tubing down the river and with beer. Couldn't have asked for a better day!
Thanks for a fun game guys!

#1784

Matahari wrote:Dex had more votes than Bea. I'm going back to look at roles again.

"Houdini Splicer Dancer 1 – Can manipulate votes in every lynch using magic by making two players’ votes disappear. These players, selected the previous night, will be unaware their votes will not count during that day period. He is too busy dancing to be able to avoid kill attempts like other Houdini Splicers. (Secrets)

• Houdini Splicer Dancer 2 – Can manipulate votes in every lynch using magic by making two players’ votes worth twice as much as normal. These players, selected the previous night, will be unaware their votes are doubled during that day period. She is too busy dancing to be able to avoid kill attempts like other Houdini Splicers. (Secrets)"

Mata, I believe I found what you were looking for. I hadn't given these a second thought after my first read-through of the roles.

#1785

Glad you had fun Bea! Those are always a good combination!

#1786

RIP bea, sorry to lose you. Glad to hear you had an awesome day. You were not joking about your role either, civ with no info.

Mata - Good catch. What happened to dex? Definitely something to look into further. Could be influence from any number of roles.

Linki- and there it is from devin.

#1787

Catching up right now. Sorry I missed the vote. Polls have been closing around 7pm (or quarter till) my time, I assumed that was the case again today. I totally forgot about it until 6pm my time, and couldn't get on the computer until 6:30... I was super proud of myself for at least remembering in time to come on and vote... but it was too late.

Lame.

#1788

All caught up.

Bea - I totally misread you, sorry about that.

Interesting point about Dex and Bea on the poll, Mata and then Devin.

How many votes apart were they? (I guess I can just go look on the polls thread.

)

Ok, this poll ends around 6pm my time - I'm going to adjust my mental clock so I won't miss it.

#1789

EBWOP:

Actually it ends around 5pm my time. Ok, mental clock RE-readjusted.

#1790

indiglo wrote:All caught up.

Bea - I totally misread you, sorry about that.

Interesting point about Dex and Bea on the poll, Mata and then Devin. How many votes apart were they? (I guess I can just go look on the polls thread. )

Ok, this poll ends around 6pm my time - I'm going to adjust my mental clock so I won't miss it.

OK, seriously, one last post. Bea had 6 votes and Dex had 7.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1791

RIP Bea

Out of the NKed players I am most confident of Mongoose being civ so I'm voting to rez her.

#1792

Clearly I should be rezzed. I mean, I played better than anyone else who was dead. And I'm nicer than all of you. And smarter. And sexier.

WHAT????? My name isn't on the poll?!?!

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

#1793

The baddies are pushing us in the wrong direction guys please reevaluate your suspicions

#1794

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Clearly I should be rezzed. I mean, I played better than anyone else who was dead. And I'm nicer than all of you. And smarter. And sexier.

WHAT????? My name isn't on the poll?!?!

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

I'm not there either! Oh, the injustice of it all! We should form our own dead team, BWT, and finish off all these traitors who lynched us.

#1795

Mongoose! Come back to play with us.

#1796

Russtifinko wrote:
Who's LA again, Bullz? You're probably right about DH, I guess I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

I think I'm going to put my vote on Dex now. I agree with the part of Bullz's statement I bolded, and I think Dex may be hiding baddieness.

I think the discussion of Dom has been interesting. I don't think singlemindedness in going after baddies is necessarily a bad thing (if it was we'd have lynched Epi long ago). However, the back a forth between him and bea makes me a bit nervous.

It's not about being single minded. It's about throwing the entire pot of spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Nevinera wrote:This is a bit drive-by, but I've been pretty busy, and I have to vote early again because of work plans.

The strange behavior by dom read very much like someone desperately defending a teammate to me.
I am voting bea, both for the same reasons as before AND because of the potential two-for-one if she flips baddie
(because there's no way that dom is civ if bea is not).

Interested to hear what you think of me now.

nutella wrote:RIP Bea

Out of the NKed players I am most confident of Mongoose being civ so I'm voting to rez her.

Same...

Zany Dex wrote:The baddies are pushing us in the wrong direction guys please reevaluate your suspicions

I wouldn't disagree.

#1797

I'll add another vote for crap on a catapult!

#1798

I'm voting for Mongoose.

Dom wrote: It's not about being single minded. It's about throwing the entire pot of spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Wait... Are you saying you're doing this or someone else? Because you've been very single minded tbh, first with Snow Dog then me.

#1799

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Matahari wrote:Dex had more votes than Bea. I'm going back to look at roles again.
"Houdini Splicer Dancer 1 – Can manipulate votes in every lynch using magic by making two players’ votes disappear. These players, selected the previous night, will be unaware their votes will not count during that day period. He is too busy dancing to be able to avoid kill attempts like other Houdini Splicers. (Secrets)

• Houdini Splicer Dancer 2 – Can manipulate votes in every lynch using magic by making two players’ votes worth twice as much as normal. These players, selected the previous night, will be unaware their votes are doubled during that day period. She is too busy dancing to be able to avoid kill attempts like other Houdini Splicers. (Secrets)"

Mata, I believe I found what you were looking for. I hadn't given these a second thought after my first read-through of the roles.

There're also the little sisters. They might have a zero vote or an extra strong one by now.
That makes it tough to make assertions about which voters must include them :-\

Dom wrote:Interested to hear what you think of me now.

Not a ton. The thought did hit me that you could have gained her as an ally using the security bot plasmid,
but that really wouldn't imply any specific team. I have no specific suspicions of you though, if that helps.

#1800

Another possibility just occurred to me - if Dex was immune to lynching, the lynch would have slid off onto Bea.
Jack, Ryan, and possibly Cohen all have that effect to some degree.

You and Bioshock: Which have you played and would you be interested in my upcoming sequel?