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Okay, I don't know what the hell is going on with ika. What are we going to do with this guy? Talk to me, people.
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I need to dig deeper, but yeah, based on what I recall and what Scotty pulled up, I agree. I just think it's more likely we're seeing town sig defending the wrong player than a sloppy defense from a mafia sig.Golden wrote:A quick iso of sig does leave him IAWY teammate compatible for sure. I can at least see why people would genuinely be suspicious of him.
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I think so - I just really skim read his iso but it made me feel pretty good about sig/zebra not being a team, and about my sig town read. There is a lot in there that really genuinely feels like he is trying to solve and open to other perspectives.MovingPictures07 wrote:I need to dig deeper, but yeah, based on what I recall and what Scotty pulled up, I agree. I just think it's more likely we're seeing town sig defending the wrong player than a sloppy defense from a mafia sig.Golden wrote:A quick iso of sig does leave him IAWY teammate compatible for sure. I can at least see why people would genuinely be suspicious of him.
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Who would you feel better not having to have their game approach around tomorrow MP - Wilgy or zebra? Who do you think is doing more harm to town chances?
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Same question to anyone really.
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I've gone back and forth on sig, but that's exactly why I feel good about him currently.Golden wrote:I think so - I just really skim read his iso but it made me feel pretty good about sig/zebra not being a team, and about my sig town read. There is a lot in there that really genuinely feels like he is trying to solve and open to other perspectives.MovingPictures07 wrote:I need to dig deeper, but yeah, based on what I recall and what Scotty pulled up, I agree. I just think it's more likely we're seeing town sig defending the wrong player than a sloppy defense from a mafia sig.Golden wrote:A quick iso of sig does leave him IAWY teammate compatible for sure. I can at least see why people would genuinely be suspicious of him.
I also think his emotional reactions earlier were genuine.
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Ehhhh, I don't know. I suppose Wilgy. At least zebra has contributed something this game; I still don't know what to do with Wilgy's 'gut' reads. I'm just hoping zebra actually engages the game again like she was during d2.Golden wrote:Who would you feel better not having to have their game approach around tomorrow MP - Wilgy or zebra? Who do you think is doing more harm to town chances?
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With that said, zebra's vote switching is irritating beyond anything Wilgy is doing.
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So there's actually a fault in this line here. Whenever someone sees no reason, it means they aren't willing to see a reason. I can think of plenty, reaction judging, nk baiting, bluffing the baddies. That line in specific reveals a forced intention.Scotty wrote:Ok, I'm sold on a Wilgy lynch.
I jumped in the game trying to solve a puzzle while missing 50% of the puzzle. I might be tunneling on sig a bit. I do that.
I'll err on the side of falling back on those that have been in the game so far and have more garnered info.
If what you say is true about this matrix, Golden, you are correct that Wilgy cannot be checking anyone if he is good. And I see no reason for a civ to be absolutely sure Soneji is bad and come out with that kind of info.
If this is true, you've caught up now and saw that your vote reason is null. Why is your vote still on me?Scotty wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Scotty. Don't argue the AFK angle, that cup of WIFOM is full of tears and anguish.
Argue my suspicion please.Y is wat so?DrWilgy wrote:Explaine this to me. Y is this soScotty wrote:Ok this here. What's happening here. Does anyone else find it fucking fishy as fuck? Like a salmon in a burrito.
Zebra, what did I do to you?
Slow? I'm reading as I go. You literally posted that red check today, if I recall. I'm sorry I'm not at your speed in catching up.DrWilgy wrote:Your vote on me for a fabricated red check came abit slow. I already explained that it was. Seems rather opportunistic that you would go for that without reading me.Scotty wrote:A few.DrWilgy wrote:Waaaaiiiittttt....
Scotty...
Have you read my posts?
I don't have much time today (I have 2 shows and lots of work in between) but if you start I'll add when I can. Though I'm not sure how useful my reads are.MovingPictures07 wrote:I want to do GTH reads. I wonder when would be the best time for that. Thoughts, folks?
hey Mp I'll give thoughts on all 3 at some point, but it won't be today, I'm afraid. I have too little time. But I also advise not talking ourselves out of things
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The war to end all wars. The doctor vs the mechanic. One comes from humble beginnings, one comes from a place of lies.[/quote]Golden wrote:Wilgy vs Scotty. Phew. This is more like it!
Why do you want a 1v1?
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Also ladies and gents... I was just forcefully ejected from 3 other games I was in... If you were wondering why I was around more often
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Reads list, Wilgy. Can you give me one?
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- If ika and IAWY are teammates, ika waited until IAWY's lynch seemed inevitable, then bussed him and didn't look back. It's believable since ika didn't even really provide much substantiation for his strong IAWY read, and his behavior (most notably, the bet with Dizzy) could be seen as driven by confirmation bias (since he knows IAWY is scum).
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ika's behavior is teammate compatible, for sure. Teammate indicative? I don't know because it's all a giant ball of WIFOM.
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I think MP is scum
hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?
It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."
if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?
It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."
if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
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I hope you are ready to eat crow.ika wrote:I think MP is scum
hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?
It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."
if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
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Only people I'm pinged by are Scotty, Zeebs, Sig and you in that order... Well of course Golden is bad.
The only player I feel like I have a good read on is Scotty.
I can see Zebra as being civ simply because I think she's bad. I never read her correctly.
The only player I feel like I have a good read on is Scotty.
I can see Zebra as being civ simply because I think she's bad. I never read her correctly.
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this was driected at golden. but here i got one for you tooMovingPictures07 wrote:I hope you are ready to eat crow.ika wrote:I think MP is scum
hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?
It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."
if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
want to take a bet on sigs alignment?
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Can you elaborate on what bothered you about zebra, sig, and myself?DrWilgy wrote:Only people I'm pinged by are Scotty, Zeebs, Sig and you in that order... Well of course Golden is bad.
The only player I feel like I have a good read on is Scotty.
I can see Zebra as being civ simply because I think she's bad. I never read her correctly.
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No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.ika wrote:this was driected at golden. but here i got one for you tooMovingPictures07 wrote:I hope you are ready to eat crow.ika wrote:I think MP is scum
hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?
It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."
if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
want to take a bet on sigs alignment?
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I will give you "World's Biggest Tunneler" award though, since that's all you're doing.
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sig bets are essenal to the gameMovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
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make that a socky and i will 100% self nom itMovingPictures07 wrote:I will give you "World's Biggest Tunneler" award though, since that's all you're doing.
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You and I couldn't be any more different.ika wrote:sig bets are essenal to the gameMovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
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Lol, that actually is not a half-bad idea for a Socky.ika wrote:make that a socky and i will 100% self nom itMovingPictures07 wrote:I will give you "World's Biggest Tunneler" award though, since that's all you're doing.
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Hey Marmot, you're next with interactions. How about you just tell us all now if you're IAWY's teammate?
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'What! Why?YDrWilgy wrote:Also ladies and gents... I was just forcefully ejected from 3 other games I was in... If you were wondering why I was around more often
Linki: I nominate Matt, no question
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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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No, I'm not going to take a bet, ika. It's the kind of thing I'll consider in the early game, but not in the late game where it could end up affecting who gets lynched.
It's sufficient that after the game one of us will be right and the other wrong.
It's sufficient that after the game one of us will be right and the other wrong.
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My vote is Matt too! Sorry Ika!Metalmarsh89 wrote:'What! Why?YDrWilgy wrote:Also ladies and gents... I was just forcefully ejected from 3 other games I was in... If you were wondering why I was around more often
Linki: I nominate Matt, no question
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To make it easier, you can just skip all of my posts before Sunday. I know you had like 250 posts by that time.MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Marmot, you're next with interactions. How about you just tell us all now if you're IAWY's teammate?
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Bet's about sig are not essential to the game, what am I something to bet on hmph.
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acutaly i think we are quite similar :PMovingPictures07 wrote:You and I couldn't be any more different.ika wrote:sig bets are essenal to the gameMovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
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sweet ill be taking it thenMovingPictures07 wrote:Lol, that actually is not a half-bad idea for a Socky.ika wrote:make that a socky and i will 100% self nom itMovingPictures07 wrote:I will give you "World's Biggest Tunneler" award though, since that's all you're doing.
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ika wrote:acutaly i think we are quite similar :PMovingPictures07 wrote:You and I couldn't be any more different.ika wrote:sig bets are essenal to the gameMovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
Well, I suppose that's possible; I don't know you that well yet.
I just meant with regards to mafia.
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no its not, if your not willing to eevr consdier MP scum you should have no quralles to taking the bet. i doubt its going to affect the lynch eitherGolden wrote:No, I'm not going to take a bet, ika. It's the kind of thing I'll consider in the early game, but not in the late game where it could end up affecting who gets lynched.
It's sufficient that after the game one of us will be right and the other wrong.
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i doubt matt can compete with me, i saw him in truf and thats nto tunnleingGolden wrote:My vote is Matt too! Sorry Ika!Metalmarsh89 wrote:'What! Why?YDrWilgy wrote:Also ladies and gents... I was just forcefully ejected from 3 other games I was in... If you were wondering why I was around more often
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yes, you are.sig wrote:Bet's about sig are not essential to the game, what am I something to bet on hmph.
i like betting you a lot
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You're nothing but a smashcoin to me.sig wrote:Bet's about sig are not essential to the game, what am I something to bet on hmph.
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how much do we want to bet on that :PMovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:acutaly i think we are quite similar :PMovingPictures07 wrote:You and I couldn't be any more different.ika wrote:sig bets are essenal to the gameMovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
Well, I suppose that's possible; I don't know you that well yet.
I just meant with regards to mafia.
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Well, you can live with your perspective and I will live with mine.ika wrote:no its not, if your not willing to eevr consdier MP scum you should have no quralles to taking the bet. i doubt its going to affect the lynch eitherGolden wrote:No, I'm not going to take a bet, ika. It's the kind of thing I'll consider in the early game, but not in the late game where it could end up affecting who gets lynched.
It's sufficient that after the game one of us will be right and the other wrong.
I'm not interested in a bet about my signature in my champs game, no matter who is proposing it, over what thing, for whatever reason. Nada.
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ika, I think you have a gambling problem. :P
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then you admit that you could be worng on MP and you should revaluing it, that or join me on sigGolden wrote:Well, you can live with your perspective and I will live with mine.ika wrote:no its not, if your not willing to eevr consdier MP scum you should have no quralles to taking the bet. i doubt its going to affect the lynch eitherGolden wrote:No, I'm not going to take a bet, ika. It's the kind of thing I'll consider in the early game, but not in the late game where it could end up affecting who gets lynched.
It's sufficient that after the game one of us will be right and the other wrong.
I'm not interested in a bet about my signature in my champs game, no matter who is proposing it, over what thing, for whatever reason. Nada.
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ika, if anyone ever thinks I'm tunnelling, they are most probably wrong. RM golden tunnelled. It wasn't a good thing to do, and that's old me. I'm not 'tunnelled' on MP being town.
My read on MP as very strong town is not going to change because there is a chance I could be wrong. Of course there is a chance I could be wrong, otherwise I would have said 'I am certain' not 'I am as certain as I could be without any info to go on'.
I am constantly reevaluating. Everything MP is doing in this game is furthering my view that he is town, he is putting in ridiculous amounts of efort that he would not do when scum. If he was scum, he would hide behind rl just a little bit more (and he could do that so easily and jusifiably). It's basically as obvious as it could ever be that MP is town. The fact you refuse to see it says a lot more about you than it says about how him.
My read on MP as very strong town is not going to change because there is a chance I could be wrong. Of course there is a chance I could be wrong, otherwise I would have said 'I am certain' not 'I am as certain as I could be without any info to go on'.
I am constantly reevaluating. Everything MP is doing in this game is furthering my view that he is town, he is putting in ridiculous amounts of efort that he would not do when scum. If he was scum, he would hide behind rl just a little bit more (and he could do that so easily and jusifiably). It's basically as obvious as it could ever be that MP is town. The fact you refuse to see it says a lot more about you than it says about how him.
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And trust me, him fooling me will be far more satisfying to him, than me sabotaging my champs game with a stupid sig, in any event. It's kind of unthoughtful that you would want me to do that in the champs game.
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and you relize he has been using RL all game long that silver has called him out on before she died? and you lreaize any scum can jsut do this themselfs?Golden wrote: I am constantly reevaluating. Everything MP is doing in this game is furthering my view that he is town, he is putting in ridiculous amounts of efort that he would not do when scum. If he was scum, he would hide behind rl just a little bit more (and he could do that so easily and jusifiably). It's basically as obvious as it could ever be that MP is town. The fact you refuse to see it says a lot more about you than it says about how him.
like just based on your wroding along you refuse to revaulte your MP town read at all, jsut acknowledging it and then going "oh but hes looking more town as he post" only shows me that your not revualting it at all and only turning more and more to "MP is town no amtter what"
pedit: i know but jsut read my post and mayeb you will realzie what im trying to tell you is your current thinkigns is going to screw you as qeualy in the champ game
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He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
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Lol, I'm using anti-RL if anything; the quality of my recent PhD work is being sacrificed by me playing this game as much as I am, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to pull all-nighters the next two weeks to write these papers.
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filler and trying to look town to fool you? he has been bring up RL a lot, im not saying "OMG HES NOT POSTING HES SUING RL" but he has mentioned rl a lotGolden wrote:He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
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LOL, you think I've been posting filler?ika wrote:filler and trying to look town to fool you? he has been bring up RL a lot, im not saying "OMG HES NOT POSTING HES SUING RL" but he has mentioned rl a lotGolden wrote:He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
Okay then.
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yup, you have not really given me any TLDR stuff so i didnt even read itMovingPictures07 wrote:LOL, you think I've been posting filler?ika wrote:filler and trying to look town to fool you? he has been bring up RL a lot, im not saying "OMG HES NOT POSTING HES SUING RL" but he has mentioned rl a lotGolden wrote:He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
Okay then.
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ika wrote:yup, you have not really given me any TLDR stuff so i didnt even read itMovingPictures07 wrote:LOL, you think I've been posting filler?ika wrote:filler and trying to look town to fool you? he has been bring up RL a lot, im not saying "OMG HES NOT POSTING HES SUING RL" but he has mentioned rl a lotGolden wrote:He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
Okay then.
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Huh?ika wrote:yup, you have not really given me any TLDR stuff so i didnt even read itMovingPictures07 wrote:LOL, you think I've been posting filler?ika wrote:filler and trying to look town to fool you? he has been bring up RL a lot, im not saying "OMG HES NOT POSTING HES SUING RL" but he has mentioned rl a lotGolden wrote:He's been using rl? Whats he doing with 600 posts then?
Okay then.