Battlestar Galactica Mafia - GAME OVER

#2851

Matt wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Y'all are goofballs. I do believe Silverwolf has been liking the game for its structure and uniqueness even if she hasn't liked every single moment of her time in it.

Matt, what does this have to do with Silver's alignment?
For the most part, I've seen her engage in some pretty heated arguments, break down for a sec, reporting a player to the Mod, losing her dearest on Night 1...

These things don't make me think that she has been liking the game, like, at all.

And yet, unlike Zebra, I do believe Silverwolf has been enjoying the game, which makes me think her saying so was a slip of sorts.

If it's a "slip", then what has she revealed? Do you think the baddie team is having more fun in this game than everyone else so far?

#2852

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Matt wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Y'all are goofballs. I do believe Silverwolf has been liking the game for its structure and uniqueness even if she hasn't liked every single moment of her time in it.

Matt, what does this have to do with Silver's alignment?
For the most part, I've seen her engage in some pretty heated arguments, break down for a sec, reporting a player to the Mod, losing her dearest on Night 1...

These things don't make me think that she has been liking the game, like, at all.

And yet, unlike Zebra, I do believe Silverwolf has been enjoying the game, which makes me think her saying so was a slip of sorts.
If it's a "slip", then what has she revealed? Do you think the baddie team is having more fun in this game than everyone else so far?

I don't think she would be enjoying this game, as she states, if she were a civvie.

Let's put you in the situation...

You're civvie. You lose your girlfriend (whom you always play with in this scenario, also this being the last game you two will apparently be playing with together, for awhile) N1. You reveal something very personal while having a standoff with another player in the thread. You get so mad at someone in the thread, you report them to the Mod.

Are you "really liking" this game, 3J?

#2853

Matt wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Matt wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Y'all are goofballs. I do believe Silverwolf has been liking the game for its structure and uniqueness even if she hasn't liked every single moment of her time in it.

Matt, what does this have to do with Silver's alignment?
For the most part, I've seen her engage in some pretty heated arguments, break down for a sec, reporting a player to the Mod, losing her dearest on Night 1...

These things don't make me think that she has been liking the game, like, at all.

And yet, unlike Zebra, I do believe Silverwolf has been enjoying the game, which makes me think her saying so was a slip of sorts.
If it's a "slip", then what has she revealed? Do you think the baddie team is having more fun in this game than everyone else so far?
I don't think she would be enjoying this game, as she states, if she were a civvie.

Let's put you in the situation...

You're civvie. You lose your girlfriend (whom you always play with in this scenario, also this being the last game you two will apparently be playing with together, for awhile) N1. You reveal something very personal while having a standoff with another player in the thread. You get so mad at someone in the thread, you report them to the Mod.

Are you "really liking" this game, 3J?

I have no idea. I've never been in that scenario. I am frankly doubtful that you really believe in your own commentary right now. Between calling "I'm having fun" a slip and spending like five posts talking about how I capitalized "plan", I think it's fair to wonder whether you're deliberately exaggerating your Matt ways just for show.

#2854

Ugh, the only game I have ever "copied Matt mania meta" was in GoC, and that was on like, Day 6 when my teammate advised me to do so. In fact, I'd hazard to say that I was even "Matting" before I intentionally did it.

Anyway, again, I dun care. Vote for me next day phase, see where that gets you. Luckily, I believe my Cylon Rezz ship is still in pieces.

#2855

dammit

in one piece*

Ruined the joke

#2856

I'd like everyone to put themselves in the situation I just put 3J in, and ask yourselves...

Are you "really liking" the game so far?

#2857

Matt wrote:Vote for me next day phase, see where that gets you.

Ask nutella where it got her.

#2858

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Matt wrote:Vote for me next day phase, see where that gets you.
Ask nutella where it got her.

Lol.

But I ain't nutella.

#2859

Also Matt, you still haven't explained why this makes any difference regarding Silverwolf's alignment. If those things evidence a lack of fun for her as a civilian, why would that not also hold true if she is not a civilian?

#2860

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Also Matt, you still haven't explained why this makes any difference regarding Silverwolf's alignment. If those things evidence a lack of fun for her as a civilian, why would that not also hold true if she is not a civilian?

If she's Mafia, then I would believe...

1) She'd care less that ika was killed. Especially since they can read each other so well apparently, that would actually be a good thing for her.

2) In the case that she were Mafia, I'd almost have to rethink my thoughts on Epi himself. He would most certainly have to be her baddie teammate, unless she was simply lying about reporting him, making it seem more serious then it was.

#2861

I would love a half an hour in that dome of yours, Matt, but I could probably only stand it five minutes.

#2862

indiglo wrote:>May 12 - 12:12 am EST - Scotty - D6
>May 12 - 12:12 12:34 pm EST - Bea indiglo - B6

May 13 - 12:12 12:34 am EST - Marmot
May 13 - 12:12 12:34 pm EST - G-Man
May 14 - 12:34 am EST -
May 14 - 12:34 pm EST -

A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

Looking ahead, if we're still doing this, and the timing is still the same, I could do 12:34 pm on Monday (the 16th).

#2863

Matt wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Also Matt, you still haven't explained why this makes any difference regarding Silverwolf's alignment. If those things evidence a lack of fun for her as a civilian, why would that not also hold true if she is not a civilian?
If she's Mafia, then I would believe...

1) She'd care less that ika was killed. Especially since they can read each other so well apparently, that would actually be a good thing for her.

Since you stopped answering the question here, I'll respond here.

Not good enough. You're asserting that if Silver is "really liking" the game that it's an indicator that she's bad. This means you're saying that this above speculation about ika is enough to overturn everything else you said that "should be" making the game less fun for her in the scenario you're painting.

Matt wrote:2) In the case that she were Mafia, I'd almost have to rethink my thoughts on Epi himself. He would most certainly have to be her baddie teammate, unless she was simply lying about reporting him, making it seem more serious then it was.

This is irrelevant to what I asked, and I don't think those two are baddie team mates in any universe.

#2864

Lorab your sortie today has been cancelled. You'll understand when you catch up.

#2865

Matt-You are really starting to piss me off.

We just caught scum that I was pushing and got a cylon before that, that I was pushing and think is also scum even if everyone doesn't agree. Why in the hell wouldn't I be liking that? I also like the lore/setup quite a bit and think Golden did a great job with it. I also enjoy the complex analysis some are putting into the thread and the different dynamics of trying to figure out things like res ships and why some cylons die and others don't and anything else similar that makes this game uinque. I also enjoy playing with players like bea who I have never played with before but who seems super nice. I always enjoy meeting new people like that in mafia games.

Instead of saying I slipped and asking everyone else what I think and basically calling me a liar, I don't know, why don't you ask me about it?

No, I'm not happy ika died but if I was miserable in every game he died and I lived, I wouldn't bother signing up with him ever. Yeah, I got into it with Epi. Nothing new there. So even though I had some bad spots, doesn't mean I'm not liking the game and it pisses me off you are calling me a liar or think you know what I'm thinking or feeling more than I do. It sure as hell doesn't say shit about my alignment. And for to assume I'd be liking this as scum when scum was just caught, is beyond me.

If I wasn't enjoying the game, I'd replace out. I don't waste my time doing things that are unenjoyable for me if I can avoid it.

#2866

lol linkie. Lorab, no the times are now at 12:34 pm and 12:34 am

#2867

Y'know, I have a mind blowing inability to put my ideas into words that make any kind of sense, so I'll forgive you 3J.

But generally, yes, I'd say she would be enjoying the game as a baddie.

As a civvie, not so much. No way, actually.

Linki - K

Hrm.

#2868

Lorab you have it right about the :34 times. I just woke up from a nap and am confusing you.

#2869

Silver - You are aware that the entire purpose of this game is to find out who's lying, so ummmm

It's cool, chica, I'm just playing the game. If you get "pissed off" at me again for "calling you a liar", feel free to contact Dom or Golden and we can hash it out.

#2870

juliets wrote:Lorab you have it right about the :34 times. I just woke up from a nap and am confusing you.

Haha. It's ok. I understand. Been there, done that.

#2871

Matt wrote:Y'know, I have a mind blowing inability to put my ideas into words that make any kind of sense, so I'll forgive you 3J.

But generally, yes, I'd say she would be enjoying the game as a baddie.

As a civvie, not so much. No way, actually.

Linki - K

Hrm.

This is bullshit. You don't know shit about me or what I like or don't in a game-especially as baddie vs civ. If you weren't known for these kind of conspiracy theories, I'd be more annoyed than I am already but it and maybe even start getting suspicious over it. I would know more than anyone if I like a game or not. It's super frustrating to say I'm lying about it or that I'm bad because of it. I wouldn't be liking a game as a baddie where one of my teammates just got lynched nearly as much as I would as a civ who just helped lynch scum.

This is also an active game that has held my interest and that I check frequently. I like these games as civ far more than as bad because as a baddie I have to fight off some super strong analytical players who are actively posting and figuring things out which really isn't nearly as fun as being a civ who is participating in that.

I really don't understand how your brain works at all. And it's probably best that I try not to figure it out.

#2872

Hrm.

No, I think you're bad.

One moment you are "pissed off" that I am "suspecting you of lying" (haha), the next moment you are hurling insults my way about my brain function (which, personally, I don't mind you saying it, it's just funny you would insult me at all after feigning being "mad" about me playing the game)...

You bad. I'll be sure to vote for ya tomorrow.

#2873

Matt wrote:Regardless, I only asked you that question to see if you were around.

Real question - Do you believe Silverwolf has been "really liking" this game so far?

If you asked me yet, I have not seen, so I will take a stab at it.

I think it is totally possible, why would she lie about this?

As someone who lashes out on occasion myself

, in the vast majority of the games I have played where I lost it and melted down, I can only think of two where the game was permanently ruined for me. Most of those times, I shook it off, held my head up and walked back into the thread.

Why do you think a meltdown, or even a few meltdowns or emotional moments ruin someones game so they no longer enjoy it? Some people LIKE emotional outbursts, it makes them feel passionate and alive. On occasion this is an problem I have, becasue I have an organic issue that can cause emotional shutdown for me. Now, this is not a problem for ME; I enjoy it and freaking out is cathartic for me other than the embarrassment factor. It's the people AROUND me who don't enjoy it. SO I have been trying to learn to better control myself so that I can stop doing that TO people. But it does not ruin my day.

Did it ever occur to you that it does not ruin Silvers day, either?

#2874

SVS...

What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?

#2875

Matt wrote:Hrm.

No, I think you're bad.

One moment you are "pissed off" that I am "suspecting you of lying" (haha), the next moment you are hurling insults my way about my brain function (which, personally, I don't mind you saying it, it's just funny you would insult me at all after feigning being "mad" about me playing the game)...

You bad. I'll be sure to vote for ya tomorrow.

K

#2876

Matt wrote:SVS...

What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?

Stop asking everyone else what I'm thinking and ask me. Where did I insult your brain function by saying I can't figure you out and don't want to try? You are insulting me by saying I'm lying about enjoying a game I'm enjoying. Go ahead and vote me. I don't give a fuck. I'm also not going to address this with you again. Not only are you calling me a liar but saying I'm faking being mad. Get bent.

#2877

Matt wrote:SVS...

What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?

No I'm pissed off about WHAT you are calling me a liar about. That's what's pissing me off. Yeah, I guess if you don't want me to enjoy this game you can keep this petty BS up and I won't.

I'm done with this.

#2878

Matt wrote:SVS...

What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?

I don't know. Maybe she is easily offended? Maybe she thinks you are full of shit? But I don;t see what that has to do with her liking or not liking the game. To be honest, the two of you are two of the three strongest town reads I have.

Step back from the piece of Reynolds Wrap (and that is not an insult, we all do it on occasion) and listen to what she is saying as a whole rather than taking one little thing and examining it under a microscope. If you sit and stare at the back of your hand, or your nose in a mirror, for long enough, it starts to look monstrous (I know, I did this in a psychology class in college). You totaly lose tracl of the big picture that way.

#2879

Silverwolf wrote:I'm not playing with this level of frustration by allowing a confirmed Cylon to live or calling it town.

Silverwolf wrote:If he [Epi] flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.

Silverwolf wrote:OK, I've caught up in this thread and I have only a few comments because the last several pages were page after page after page of meaningless BS that does nothing to further this game and I have a massive headache after reading it.

Silverwolf wrote:I'm ready to ingore you and Epi both for the rest of the game. All you have done is put him down and gotten into a pages back and forth that is painful to read and makes me dispirited and demoralized.

Silverwolf wrote:I really, really, really, really dislike all the people who are saying ika should be lynched for nothing more than having an opinion that doesn't match up to others or for what amounts to a PL. This, plus the fact that Rico is treating him the way he is, makes me not even want to post or play.

Silverwolf wrote:God damn, I am annoyed as shit right now.

Silverwolf wrote:God you people are rude as hell to those that haven't been here as long as you and it shows in almost every single game.

Silverwolf wrote:I'm disappointed he's gone but also relieved because I don't have to deal with the stress of you guys lynching him when he was clearly not bad.

Silverwolf wrote:But the bottom line is, it is extremely difficult for me to play a game where the very definition of Mafia is not in place.

Silverwolf wrote:Don't tell me not to play mafia. I've won far more games than I've ever lost. You are just being a jerk to me in this game like you were in Turf Wars. Clearly you have issues with me. I'm sick of your antagonizing shit towards me in numerous games. You are a moderator here who should know better and you've been talked to about this before. I'm reporting this shit now. I've had it with you.

Silverwolf wrote:I literally said I thought IAWY was scummy for being under the radar and several people chimed in to say he's just behind due to being busy. D'Faraday was also being let off the hook for this. Daisy and Epi have asked to get a break due to RL. Black Rock is busy as well I believe. This is frustrating to me if it continues long into the game because these people are unreadable. I usually give people wiggle room D1 for RL but if it continues into D2, I usually want them lynched unless they are being replaced. I've already said why. They are either scum under the radar or town who isn't gonna be helpful. I can't read people who don't post. At least IAWY replaced so maybe Wilgy will be able to post enough to read that slot but some others have been barely posting. And some people who draw scum don't post much or it's hard to post much or they sit back and let town implode via ika/Rico for example. They get overlooked and then those who are active get suspected. Scum can be active too but if there is a site meta of letting people who don't post off the hook, then that will become a viable scum strategy and that makes games a hell of a lot more difficult and frustrating.

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Silverwolf wrote:Luckily, I'm really liking this game, so I'm here.

Any questions?

#2880

So Matt you're saying she was mafia faking her anger. Or the anger was real, but she's having fun since she is mafia fooling the town.

#2881

I'd like to see some more posts and reads from the lower posters. Nero, Glorfindel, DF, ect

#2882

Also, while looking those up...

Silverwolf wrote:I literally said I thought IAWY was scummy for being under the radar and several people chimed in to say he's just behind due to being busy. D'Faraday was also being let off the hook for this. Daisy and Epi have asked to get a break due to RL. Black Rock is busy as well I believe. This is frustrating to me if it continues long into the game because these people are unreadable. I usually give people wiggle room D1 for RL but if it continues into D2, I usually want them lynched unless they are being replaced. I've already said why. They are either scum under the radar or town who isn't gonna be helpful. I can't read people who don't post. At least IAWY replaced so maybe Wilgy will be able to post enough to read that slot but some others have been barely posting. And some people who draw scum don't post much or it's hard to post much or they sit back and let town implode via ika/Rico for example. They get overlooked and then those who are active get suspected. Scum can be active too but if there is a site meta of letting people who don't post off the hook, then that will become a viable scum strategy and that makes games a hell of a lot more difficult and frustrating.

What, did you receive a notice saying Rico was town that the rest of us didn't get?

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Silverwolf wrote:Luckily, I'm really liking this game, so I'm here.

Any questions?[/quote]

#2883

Matt said: Any questions?

No. Maybe she likes frustration? Maybe it's a challenge? Maybe she's a masochist and this is the most fun she has ever had except for that one time with the razor blades and the blowtorch?

What difference does it make?

You are figuratively turning a teeny sidewalk anthill into Kilamanjaro.

indiglo wrote:>May 12 - 12:12 am EST - Scotty - D6
>May 12 - 12:12 12:34 pm EST - Bea indiglo - B6

May 13 - 12:12 12:34 am EST - Marmot
May 13 - 12:12 12:34 pm EST - G-Man
May 14 - 12:34 am EST -
May 14 - 12:34 pm EST -

A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

Indi, I can't take any until we go back to 6 hours. Then I can pick up a few. Tonight I am in bed at midnight, and in work at noon.

#2884

FIXED*

Matt wrote:Also, while looking those up...

Silverwolf wrote:I literally said I thought IAWY was scummy for being under the radar and several people chimed in to say he's just behind due to being busy. D'Faraday was also being let off the hook for this. Daisy and Epi have asked to get a break due to RL. Black Rock is busy as well I believe. This is frustrating to me if it continues long into the game because these people are unreadable. I usually give people wiggle room D1 for RL but if it continues into D2, I usually want them lynched unless they are being replaced. I've already said why. They are either scum under the radar or town who isn't gonna be helpful. I can't read people who don't post. At least IAWY replaced so maybe Wilgy will be able to post enough to read that slot but some others have been barely posting. And some people who draw scum don't post much or it's hard to post much or they sit back and let town implode via ika/Rico for example. They get overlooked and then those who are active get suspected. Scum can be active too but if there is a site meta of letting people who don't post off the hook, then that will become a viable scum strategy and that makes games a hell of a lot more difficult and frustrating.

What, did you receive a notice saying Rico was town that the rest of us didn't get?

#2885

Silverwolf are you a masochist?

SVS wants to know.

#2886

Matt wrote:Silverwolf are you a masochist?

SVS wants to know.

#2887

What do you make of Silver "knowing" Rico is town, SVS?

#2888

I think in all the games I have played with her or watched her play, she is always very sure. She & Ika call things confirmed that we never would. And you know this to be true.

#2889

Sincere question: Why do you guys keep picking coordinates within the above 6x6 grid as opposed to thinking outside of the box?

#2890

S~V~S wrote:I think in all the games I have played with her or watched her play, she is always very sure. She & Ika call things confirmed that we never would. And you know this to be true.

Actually, my experience with them is very limited, I've played in a few games with them, Turf Wars and Downton, for example, where either she or I was killed very early.

Still. I think she's bad.

#2891

Vompatti wrote:Sincere question: Why do you guys keep picking coordinates within the above 6x6 grid as opposed to thinking outside of the box?

Sincere answer, I think that the host gave us those coordinates.

#2892

S~V~S wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Sincere question: Why do you guys keep picking coordinates within the above 6x6 grid as opposed to thinking outside of the box?
Sincere answer, I think that the host gave us those coordinates.

Which is why it might be interesting to see what would happen if we picked anything but those coordinates.

#2893

Matt wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I think in all the games I have played with her or watched her play, she is always very sure. She & Ika call things confirmed that we never would. And you know this to be true.
Actually, my experience with them is very limited, I've played in a few games with them, Turf Wars and Downton, for example, where either she or I was killed very early.

Still. I think she's bad.

OK, I will give you this. I follow all the games, even the ones I don;t play. But yeah, her & ika call things "confirmed" very easily, and it is my observation that they make rapid decisions. COuld be related to where they played before. Different standards, they have not been mindfucked by hosts quite so much as we have perhaps

And I respect that you think she is bad. I disagree.

Linki @Vomp~ what do you propose?

#2894

S~V~S wrote:
Linki @Vomp~ what do you propose?

Q11, K8, Z47, not necessarily in that order.

#2895

Long Con wrote:I think I meant to say "didn't" up there, but oh well. Here's the poll... Golden is doing it weird in the Poll Thread:

That's because the polls are showing an inaccurate voting order and you might want to know what the real voting order is in case of the possibility that the admiral jumps the fleet somewhere in the middle. The poll isn't very helpful.

#2896

I think if anyone actually reads the posts of hers I quoted, most will accept that "really liking this game" is not a probability as a civ.

But as scum? Sure.

#2897

Vompatti wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Linki @Vomp~ what do you propose?
Q11, K8, Z47, not necessarily in that order.

You can present it to the Gridmistress, but I doubt she will go for it. But no guts, no glory, right?

Linki, again, you cant know what goes on in a different persons mind, or what they do and do not like. You can project how YOU might feel, but cliches aside, walking a mile in someone elses moccasins is pretty much impossible.

#2898

Suppose I got lynched and stayed dead, and I was...I don't know, Bill the super Civilian head of the janitors. Not necessarily vital or important in the scheme of things, but unquestionably civilian.

Does your opinion of my voters change? Why or why not?

#2899

On Day one, probably not. Off the top of my head I don't recall why you took votes, so that might have bearing. But for the most part, no, probably not.

#2900

S~V~S wrote:On Day one, probably not. Off the top of my head I don't recall why you took votes, so that might have bearing. But for the most part, no, probably not.

That question wasn't just to you, so everybody knows. You were just in the line of fire.

Who be you lynching today?