Felt Mafia 2 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
woops, when Epi left the dinner table to go vote, I just assumed vocaroo. I was thinking this was 48 hours. Sorry all.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.

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Why does a baddie DDL flip clear llama? I don't see the posts in either guys ISO's that would point to that.insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Polls]
Day 1
Who is the Seventh Sister?
Poll ended at Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:10:26 pm
A Person
0
No votes
Boomslang
0
No votes
Dragon D. Luffy
5
nijuukyugou (8), Boomslang (9), Metalmarsh89 (10), Sorsha (13), Epignosis (14) 36%
DrWilgy
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Elohcin
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Epignosis
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INH
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JaggedJimmyJ
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No votes
LongCon
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No votes
Made
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
1
JaggedJimmyJay (5) 7%
MovingPictures
1
Scotty (7) 7%
nijuukyugou
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No votes
Quin
0
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Scotty
0
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Sorsha
1
thellama73 (2) 7%
thellama73
4
insertnamehere (4), Long Con (6), Quin (11), DrWilgy (12) 29%
Vompatti (Host/Mod/NPs/Vomps)
2
Mongoose (1), juliets (3) 14%
Total votes : 14
Who is the Seventh Sister?
Poll ended at Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:10:26 pm
A Person
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No votes
Boomslang
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No votes
Dragon D. Luffy
5
nijuukyugou (8), Boomslang (9), Metalmarsh89 (10), Sorsha (13), Epignosis (14) 36%
DrWilgy
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Elohcin
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Epignosis
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INH
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JaggedJimmyJ
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LongCon
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No votes
Made
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No votes
Metalmarsh89
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JaggedJimmyJay (5) 7%
MovingPictures
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Scotty (7) 7%
nijuukyugou
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No votes
Quin
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No votes
Scotty
0
No votes
Sorsha
1
thellama73 (2) 7%
thellama73
4
insertnamehere (4), Long Con (6), Quin (11), DrWilgy (12) 29%
Vompatti (Host/Mod/NPs/Vomps)
2
Mongoose (1), juliets (3) 14%
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
There's actually five Godard references in that post. I'll award five hundred meaningless INH Points™ to whoever can find them all.Mongoose wrote:insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.
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I don't think Llama is cleared by any means, but I'm not quite as hot on him as I was before DDL's flip-eroo.Quin wrote:Why does a baddie DDL flip clear llama? I don't see the posts in either guys ISO's that would point to that.insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Oh, I saw more. I just didn't want to appear pretentious. Breathess, My Life to Live, Contempt, Band of Outsiders, Weekend (hells bells that film). I hope you enjoy going to Alphaville this holiday weekend.insertnamehere wrote:There's actually five Godard references in that post. I'll award five hundred meaningless INH Points™ to whoever can find them all.Mongoose wrote:insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.
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Why?insertnamehere wrote:I don't think Llama is cleared by any means, but I'm not quite as hot on him as I was before DDL's flip-eroo.Quin wrote:Why does a baddie DDL flip clear llama? I don't see the posts in either guys ISO's that would point to that.insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.
I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Right lads, ya got lucky this time, but all 'n all, I think yer performance is bloody sub par.
Best step it up and start gettin' to the real nitty gritty scritti politti or you'll be as gone as yesterday's fish and chip papers.
There's a right few folk who haven't even had a proper butchers yet, so sharpen yer mince pies and get busy, sods!
Best step it up and start gettin' to the real nitty gritty scritti politti or you'll be as gone as yesterday's fish and chip papers.
There's a right few folk who haven't even had a proper butchers yet, so sharpen yer mince pies and get busy, sods!
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
And where were you when we lynched Jnco?Jean Genie wrote:Right lads, ya got lucky this time, but all 'n all, I think yer performance is bloody sub par.
Best step it up and start gettin' to the real nitty gritty scritti politti or you'll be as gone as yesterday's fish and chip papers.
There's a right few folk who haven't even had a proper butchers yet, so sharpen yer mince pies and get busy, sods!

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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
I was in me bleedin' lamp, where d'ya think?
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
STOP RUBBING THE JEANS
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Hey, why don't I trust you?Jean Genie wrote:Right lads, ya got lucky this time, but all 'n all, I think yer performance is bloody sub par.
Best step it up and start gettin' to the real nitty gritty scritti politti or you'll be as gone as yesterday's fish and chip papers.
There's a right few folk who haven't even had a proper butchers yet, so sharpen yer mince pies and get busy, sods!
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Ignorance, innit?Quin wrote:Hey, why don't I trust you?Jean Genie wrote:Right lads, ya got lucky this time, but all 'n all, I think yer performance is bloody sub par.
Best step it up and start gettin' to the real nitty gritty scritti politti or you'll be as gone as yesterday's fish and chip papers.
There's a right few folk who haven't even had a proper butchers yet, so sharpen yer mince pies and get busy, sods!
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
I just like to be controversial. 

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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
What is this sock shenanigans?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
A Jean genie? What'n tarnation!
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I am a civilian. That much is proven.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
Super neat. Nicely done on the lynch y'all. A dead mafioso on Day 1 presents a lot of unique opportunities for data mining given that [presumably] no mafia team ever wants to start the game from behind. I'll do my standard digging and see what I find.
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A Person -- no data related to DDL
Boomslang
The first post is cut out from a larger post of reads. DDL was the only player about whom Boomslang spoke solely with negativity. His vote for DDL was 2nd of 5 and tied him in the tally with llama. That's a very nice look.
DrWilgy
Elohcin -- no data related to DDL
Epignosis
His vote for DDL was 5th of 5 and gave him the lead in the tally at the last minute. He was the origin of the case against DDL and by virtue the lynch's primary driver. These are all very good looks. To suspect Epignosis is to accuse him of a taking a significant bussing risk (one that I am not sure he'd even care to do at DDL's request) that he probably didn't need to take. In a separate post I'll explore the parallel to Guess Who that Marmot mentioned for good measure.
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Long Con
Long Con "found himself agreeing" with Epi's case against DDL. In the same post, he pooh-poohed my own agreement with Epi's observation of hypocrisy in DDL's posts. Indeed that was the central point of Epi's case -- that DDL expressed a willingness to lynch people who were discussing game mechanics instead of hunting while he himself had done no hunting either. So I don't understand how LC could simultaneously agree with Epi and disagree with me -- it's a paradox.
Epi makes case. JJJ affirms core element of Epi's case. LC agrees with Epi's case. LC disagrees with JJJ. How is this possible?
His vote for llama was 2nd out of 4, also before DDL received any votes (so it wasn't yet a "counterwagon"). I need to see an explanation for the above issue.
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DrWilgy
His vote for llama was 4th of 4, and it placed llama in a 4-3 lead over DDL in the tally. There are numerous examples in Wilgy's post history of suspicion being stated to/about llama, so in terms of consistency there's no apparent issue with his vote selection (he didn't say anything about DDL). The timing isn't ideal; it gave llama the lead late.DrWilgy wrote:Voted the Llama.
Elohcin -- no data related to DDL
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insertnamehere
His vote for llama was the 1st of 4. When his vote was placed there were no votes on DDL, so the llama wagon cannot be called a "counterwagon" yet. His suspicion of llama was well-documented. He had no discussion about DDL.insertnamehere wrote:Might as well make the first move. Or the second move, to be more accurate, thanks to Llama's Sorsha vote.
*votes thellama73*
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Epi makes case. JJJ affirms core element of Epi's case. LC agrees with Epi's case. LC disagrees with JJJ. How is this possible?
His vote for llama was 2nd out of 4, also before DDL received any votes (so it wasn't yet a "counterwagon"). I need to see an explanation for the above issue.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
Made -- no data related to DDL
Metalmarsh89
Marmot's vote for DDL was 3rd of 5 and gave DDL a 3-2 lead over llama in the tally. The interactive content is limited but the vote is a good look. There could also be an element of self-preservation to consider here, since before he voted those two wagons were 2-2 and he had 1 vote himself (from me). Taking that into account, it's additionally ideal that his vote landed on the confirmed bad guy.
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nijuukyuogou
Her DDL vote was 1st of 5, placed when llama was at 2 votes. To this point a few people had expressed interest in Epi's suspicion of DDL, but niju was the first to act on it and I think that's a good thing for her. She set the circumstances to allow the momentum to roll in the ultimately correct direction.
Quin
Quin's vote for llama was 3rd of 4 and tied him in the tally with DDL. Prior to placing his vote, there's no clear trend in his posts which would foretell his voting for either of the players in the war-of-wagons. That he elected to vote llama in the end stands in stark contrast to this post from earlier in the day phase:
He explained his turn on llama in the green-highlighted text in the first of these two spoiler boxes. Quin, please expand on what you meant here; I don't understand where your head was at. Describe thoroughly the move you made re: llama and how it led to your change of heart in your read.
We see from Quin that his vote for llama was motivated from both significant angles here -- he expressed a reason to distrust llama and also a reason to trust DDL. In this regard, his effort to move the lynch in llama's direction and away from DDL cannot be refuted. That's simply what happened. One can fairly state that Quin has been caught with his pants down. That doesn't have to mean he's DDL's teammate, but it's not a good look and that's the uphill battle he'll be faced with moving forward.
Scotty
His vote went to MP at a time when llama had 2 votes and DDL had 0 votes. A solo vote for an inactive player is true to Scotty's M.O. and leaves us with little to judge either way. There's no discussion of DDL in his posts.
Sorsha
Sorsha's vote for DDL was 4th of 5 and tied him with llama. Her green-highlighted observation of DDL's low activity level being atypical of his civilian game meshes with my own observation. Sorsha's vote is a fantastic look for her, perhaps the best look of anyone, because of who the counterwagon was. If Sorsha was DDL's teammate, then that means she willfully tried to lynch her teammate instead of the very player who had spent Days 0 and 1 trying to kill her. I don't know if any mafioso out there would operate that way. She had a golden opportunity to get llama out of here and instead placed a pivotal vote in the DDL lynch. Excellent.
thellama73
Recall that llama's vote was for Sorsha, the first vote placed by anyone on Day 1. This means he was unable to vote in self-preservation when he was in danger of being lynched. He was supportive of DDL in the only conclusive comment he made about him, which is perhaps striking after having labeled him as a "blender". It should also be noted that half of llama's voters placed their votes on him before DDL had any votes, so to call him a "counterwagon" isn't quite accurate. That term applies better in reference to the votes from Quin and DrWilgy. Relative to DDL, I don't think this information does much to clear llama and that he should be read independent of DDL interaction.
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MovingPictures07 -- no data related to DDL
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We see from Quin that his vote for llama was motivated from both significant angles here -- he expressed a reason to distrust llama and also a reason to trust DDL. In this regard, his effort to move the lynch in llama's direction and away from DDL cannot be refuted. That's simply what happened. One can fairly state that Quin has been caught with his pants down. That doesn't have to mean he's DDL's teammate, but it's not a good look and that's the uphill battle he'll be faced with moving forward.
Scotty
His vote went to MP at a time when llama had 2 votes and DDL had 0 votes. A solo vote for an inactive player is true to Scotty's M.O. and leaves us with little to judge either way. There's no discussion of DDL in his posts.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
I figured I'd explore this comparison to be safe. I can actually recall another instance of Epi bussing a teammate: Scotty on Day 1 of Red vs. Blue. So I'll look at both.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let the record show, Epignosis has bussed a teammate once in his life, and it was Dragon D. Luffy on Day 1.
~ In Guess Who, Epi was aggressive against him teammate DDL. In the process of that aggression though, he repeatedly called DDL a suspect alongside Black Rock, who was a civilian. In this regard, mafioso Epi left himself the space to either go through with the bus job or push a civilian instead depending upon how circumstances developed. He voted DDL on Days 1 and 2 (the latter resulting in a lynch). The two of them engaged in a lengthy exchange throughout, painting a cleaner image of distance to maximize the value of the bus.
This all contrasts this game in that Epi was narrower in his anti-DDL maneuver (we don't know the alignments of anyone else he has expressed concern about, but he was singular in his desire to lynch DDL anyway). There were also no distancing exchanges given DDL's absence.
~ In Red vs. Blue, Epi was more direct and singular in his Day 1 move against Scotty. He addressed Scotty directly with an accusation, pressed the issue a few times to incite a response (presumably as it was being discussed in BTSC), and left his vote on him. In this case though, the deadline was in the morning which I believe left Epi in a tough spot in terms of being present in the end. He was only barely there for a single post in the hours approaching EOD and didn't have many opportunities to move his vote. In this regard it may have been a sort of half-accidental bus job.
The directness of his accusation in this example matches more closely with what we see in this game. The timing of the vote is very different though, which is a crucial thing given that he essentially killed DDL himself in this game by placing the swing vote.
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After review, I think calling Epignosis a teammate of DDL in this game is more conspiracy theory than reasoned thinking.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't understand what this has to do with what I said. This point is actually the very same as the one made by llama earlier in this thread. You called llama evil in your first post. What of that?Metalmarsh89 wrote:In a number of recent games (and in the history of mafia in general), I have seen mafia-aligned players offer little-to-no content while the noisy civilians yell at each other about which one of the other noisy civilians is the scummiest.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
I was being silly because of the relationship between Brett Favre and jeans. There is no way to take that seriously.Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.
You called llama evil in a Mafia thread. I took it as a read.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
@3J - I said I'd break the tie. DDL aside - for llama, that's significant, not only because it tells him that I'm keen on lynching one of the two of them, but because it tells them I have a reason to want to be involved in that wagon-war beyond what my posts showed at the time. Llama acknowledged neither of those things even though he was right there in the thread and had every reason to. I was just waiting for civilian behaviour from him, and I got none. I was cool with INH's llama thoughts too, so there's that as well. Still waiting to hear an explanation for his shifting read on llama, though. That's not going away, INH.
I see no reason why today should influence on my read on llama. They could easily be teammates. Hell, Llama threw a civ read at the guy for 'sounding civ' and all DDL had with him was fluff. Meh.
I see no reason why today should influence on my read on llama. They could easily be teammates. Hell, Llama threw a civ read at the guy for 'sounding civ' and all DDL had with him was fluff. Meh.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
@Quin
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
Not really, but the voices in my head told me to test him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:@Quin
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
What are your strongest reads right now, civilian and mafia?Quin wrote:Not really, but the voices in my head told me to test him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:@Quin
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:What are your strongest reads right now, civilian and mafia?Quin wrote:Not really, but the voices in my head told me to test him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:@Quin
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
I think Sorsha and Epi are civ, and llama is bad. I'd have put a civ read on INH too, if it weren't for his awkward change of heart. I'll see where his response takes me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:What are your strongest reads right now, civilian and mafia?Quin wrote:Not really, but the voices in my head told me to test him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:@Quin
Was there a moment before your pledge to break the tie when your read on llama shifted for the worse?
What are yours?
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
I think there are strong reasons to read all of the DDL voters as civilian (niju, Boom, Marmot, Sorsha, and Epi).
My top suspect is Long Con. After that I am not sure. I need to hear more from people.
My top suspect is Long Con. After that I am not sure. I need to hear more from people.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
JJJ, thank you so much for the voting recap, that helps me tremendously when it comes to catching up after my busy day yesterday. I am voting l.e.i. again.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
I added a letter to the word fvelt, and I never followed up on it. I'm surprised you would believe such a thing said at such a point in the game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was being silly because of the relationship between Brett Favre and jeans. There is no way to take that seriously.Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.
You called llama evil in a Mafia thread. I took it as a read.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
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Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
If a player states a read I am going to proceed with it as a read. Adding a letter to "felt" is not a read.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I added a letter to the word fvelt, and I never followed up on it. I'm surprised you would believe such a thing said at such a point in the game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was being silly because of the relationship between Brett Favre and jeans. There is no way to take that seriously.Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.
You called llama evil in a Mafia thread. I took it as a read.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Exactly! It's not a read.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If a player states a read I am going to proceed with it as a read. Adding a letter to "felt" is not a read.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I added a letter to the word fvelt, and I never followed up on it. I'm surprised you would believe such a thing said at such a point in the game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was being silly because of the relationship between Brett Favre and jeans. There is no way to take that seriously.Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.
You called llama evil in a Mafia thread. I took it as a read.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
Ask yourself what an observing player who is not you is supposed to think when seeing an assertion that llama is evil immediately after llama renders a harsh accusation on Day 0.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Exactly! It's not a read.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If a player states a read I am going to proceed with it as a read. Adding a letter to "felt" is not a read.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I added a letter to the word fvelt, and I never followed up on it. I'm surprised you would believe such a thing said at such a point in the game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was being silly because of the relationship between Brett Favre and jeans. There is no way to take that seriously.Metalmarsh89 wrote:In your first post of the game, you said you were Brett Favre. I did not take you seriously.
You called llama evil in a Mafia thread. I took it as a read.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
What is your point?Long Con wrote:I didn't take him seriously.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
You're pursuing this as though it was a real read. It was a joke read. You should be able to see the difference, and govern yourself accordingly.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:What is your point?Long Con wrote:I didn't take him seriously.
If a joke read like that signals that MM is bad to you, then accuse him of that. Don't act like "Well what are we all supposed to think when you say Llama is evil; obviously everyone will think you think Llama is evil!" I don't believe you really think that.

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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
I keep looking at this post, and wondering what you're up to here, Jay.
What is the point of the last line? Why does it matter that I'm "lynchable under my own power"?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd be surprised if Wilgy and Marmot behaved that way again as evil teammates since it blew up in their faces in ROTTK.
I guess you could say I am hesitant to drink the wine in front of me.
I do think MM is lynchable on his own power though.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
I was discussing with Scotty the notion of an MM/Wilgy teammate relationship. I suggested that I didn't think you two would approach this game similarly to ROTTK if so because it worked so poorly in that game.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I keep looking at this post, and wondering what you're up to here, Jay.
What is the point of the last line? Why does it matter that I'm "lynchable under my own power"?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd be surprised if Wilgy and Marmot behaved that way again as evil teammates since it blew up in their faces in ROTTK.
I guess you could say I am hesitant to drink the wine in front of me.
I do think MM is lynchable on his own power though.
Regardless of that relationship I found you suspicious on your own. That was what I intended to convey in the last line.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
Good result and good analysis of the votes, Jay!
I do not think this necessarily clears Epi, but it sure does look good for him to not be a bad pair of jeans.
Though there is that Genie floating around on his own agenda.
Unless...some fair bear holds the lamp
I do not think this necessarily clears Epi, but it sure does look good for him to not be a bad pair of jeans.
Though there is that Genie floating around on his own agenda.
Unless...some fair bear holds the lamp

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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Day 1]
The main difference here is that Epi started the case against DDL, as opposed to latching on to a directive from elsewhere, which is a great look for him to not be on DDL's team.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I figured I'd explore this comparison to be safe. I can actually recall another instance of Epi bussing a teammate: Scotty on Day 1 of Red vs. Blue. So I'll look at both.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let the record show, Epignosis has bussed a teammate once in his life, and it was Dragon D. Luffy on Day 1.
~ In Guess Who, Epi was aggressive against him teammate DDL. In the process of that aggression though, he repeatedly called DDL a suspect alongside Black Rock, who was a civilian. In this regard, mafioso Epi left himself the space to either go through with the bus job or push a civilian instead depending upon how circumstances developed. He voted DDL on Days 1 and 2 (the latter resulting in a lynch). The two of them engaged in a lengthy exchange throughout, painting a cleaner image of distance to maximize the value of the bus.
This all contrasts this game in that Epi was narrower in his anti-DDL maneuver (we don't know the alignments of anyone else he has expressed concern about, but he was singular in his desire to lynch DDL anyway). There were also no distancing exchanges given DDL's absence.
~ In Red vs. Blue, Epi was more direct and singular in his Day 1 move against Scotty. He addressed Scotty directly with an accusation, pressed the issue a few times to incite a response (presumably as it was being discussed in BTSC), and left his vote on him. In this case though, the deadline was in the morning which I believe left Epi in a tough spot in terms of being present in the end. He was only barely there for a single post in the hours approaching EOD and didn't have many opportunities to move his vote. In this regard it may have been a sort of half-accidental bus job.
The directness of his accusation in this example matches more closely with what we see in this game. The timing of the vote is very different though, which is a crucial thing given that he essentially killed DDL himself in this game by placing the swing vote.
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After review, I think calling Epignosis a teammate of DDL in this game is more conspiracy theory than reasoned thinking.
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
JJJ you omitted your own takenon DDL. Don't worry, I looked it up for you:
Epi lays out his case.
You voted for MM when llama had 1 vote and DDL had absolutely no sign of being voted for, so we can't assume or take anything from your vote there. But I especially don't like your last post I quoted in regards to DDL. It's not damning to be frank, but it's as if Epi was a dog coming up to you with a leash in his mouth begging to go on a walk, you patting him on the head, saying "Good boy," and proceeding to read your newspaper in solidarity.
I dunno man. I think you look sorta fishy here JJJ with this flip
"Felt good about"JaggedJimmyJay wrote:People I have felt good about for at least one second:
Quin
Scotty
thellama73
DDL
People I have felt bad about for at least one second:
Sorsha
Long Con
Metalmarsh89
Epignosis
Putting out feelers.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Whaddya got?Epignosis wrote:I don't think DDL is a civilian either. I would lynch him.
Epi lays out his case.
This is quite the wishy washy post that comes to an open-ended conclusion on DDL's alignment.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Fair. The last post there is the one I liked from DDL because I've known him to be willing to lynch people for reasons that I'd call more strategy-relevant than alignment-relevant. You're correct though that there is hypocrisy in that given his empty posts before that.
You voted for MM when llama had 1 vote and DDL had absolutely no sign of being voted for, so we can't assume or take anything from your vote there. But I especially don't like your last post I quoted in regards to DDL. It's not damning to be frank, but it's as if Epi was a dog coming up to you with a leash in his mouth begging to go on a walk, you patting him on the head, saying "Good boy," and proceeding to read your newspaper in solidarity.
I dunno man. I think you look sorta fishy here JJJ with this flip
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Re: Felt Mafia 2 [Night 1]
Devil's advocate for a sec- this vote analysis comes at only half value because how do we know llama isn't bad?
If llama is bad, there's probably a higher chance one of them was bussed by at least 1 team member. I will agree with JJJ's analysis that the DDL voters do look the best here tho
If llama is bad, there's probably a higher chance one of them was bussed by at least 1 team member. I will agree with JJJ's analysis that the DDL voters do look the best here tho
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