Mountain Mafia [END]

[Epignosis]

y'all talk too much

I'm not voting for Dom on Day 2. For this is the best post in the thread.

He makes it every game.

[Spacedaisy]

I didn't even know he was playing hinestly

[Epignosis]

I'm going to Taco Tequila Trivia Tuesday now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I've said my piece on today's lynch. Plenty of other people haven't provided much content so I'll give them a chance to catch up or speak.

I'll be lurking until EOD in case anyone has questions or I need to move my vote.

This post gives me a very political vibe.

I hate politicians.

I have four times as many posts as you, you're annoyed at all the posts but me stopping posting for the night is bad indicative.

K.

[Jackofhearts2005]

sloonei
nutella
LC

There, just looked at the thread and listed the people.

Now imma go back to catch up.

You think LC only kinda wanted to lynch Epi?

What thread are you reading?

[Jackofhearts2005]

What I do find confusing Jack is why you both believe Epi is bad and at the same time said you agree with him that Nutella is bad and your vote ended on Nutella. Where do you stand currently on Epi?

*eyebrow raise*

I thought I agreed with Epi on Night 1 that Nutella was good. If Epi agreed with me she was bad, that coincidental. My D1 Nutella read predated him taking a loud stance on her.

I still think Epi is bad. I want him to be good but the buddying and trying to scare people off him instead of hunting and pretending to not understand the case on him (misrepresenting LC) are still there so he's still bad imo.

Does it ever occur to you that...

...I'm only "buddying" somebody if I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...Scaring people off me is only a bad thing if I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...Not "hunting" is only your perspective because you assume I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...I'm not pretending to not understand the case on me because the case is circular bullshit?

You don't want me to be good. You want me to be bad.

Saying someone is acting bad assumes they really are bad. Otherwise, you're misinterpreting.

Ergo, all scumhunting is bunk.

Assuming someone is bad and then assigning evil motivations to everything he does isn't hunting. It's bullshit.

That's what Long Con did. I have to be bad in order to "buddy" someone (stupid word used in the context of mafia, might I add- "pocket" is a far superior, grown-up term). If I'm not bad, then I can't possibly be pocketing anybody, and the argument is circular bullshit. You have to assume I'm bad to believe I'm pocketing anybody. You cannot prove I am pocketing anybody until you have established that I am bad. You cannot do that without lynching me.

Or is that too much cause and effect for you?

You're still doing it backwards.

The claim was you appeared to be buddying therefore, you are bad and they are good.

What's so hard about this?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Outside of lynching mafia, that was the best possible Day 1 outcome one could hope for.

In a vacuum, or after the way day 1 started?

In this setup.

Tell me more.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh I misread that as "This is a setup."

[Sloonei]

Why was Epi's behavior buddying as opposed to anything else?

[Spacedaisy]

I think Epi's point is valid. If he had some other reason to be suspected, feeling like he is attempting to pocket someone is a natural progression. But the accusation jumps straight to Epi must be bad because he is trying to pocket these other players (which is also unsubstantiated). Jumping to such a conclusion is basically to say I believe not only that Epi is bad but these other players are good because Epi's bad.

It's pretty ludicrous really

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Reads puke

Kylemii is a civilian read for his full body of work – it parallels Pirates in a way I closely observed as a host, wherein he was willing to engage every dialogue and seemed loose in doing so. I also followed his mafia-aligned game on sc2 and he was visibly less comfortable – it showed in his posting rate and especially in crunch time.

Epignosis has employed a transparent POE approach which I think recalls recent civilian games of his wherein he has accepted the power of the strategy. This was visible quickly in the positive Mesk read which earned the ire of some and contributed to the Long Con feud, and it is visible again in the immediate aftermath of the failed lynch. He went through a lot of trouble to clear nutella, something that I think he has little reason to do if he is mafia and she is a civilian. Nobody is going to fault him if he doesn’t do that; indeed I don’t know that the conclusions he drew were immediately evident to others anyway. This means the Epi-as-mafia case becomes more contingent upon nutella also being mafia. I agree with the reasoning he provided though to give her civilian credit.

The mere fact that another instance Long Con/Epignosis Day 1 combat has taken place right after Pirates does concern me some. Long Con initiated the kerfuffle, and my immediate reaction was to wonder if it's an attempt to squeeze into those meta pajamas he sewed for himself in the prior game. At face value I don't care for the way it started:

Spoiler: show

He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.

The notion that Epignosis was "setting up a long game" on Day 0 strikes me as bogus. Combine the appearance of a fake accusation with the meta pajamas and there's reason for concern. One can view it as a maneuver to motivate content generation, or just to develop an early read on a difficult player (Epignosis) -- I don't get that impression from the continuing | progression. They look like accusations meant to pursue an actual lynch, corroborated by Long Con himself in response to Epi's assertion that it may be personal.


At face value I thought Jack looked good. His handling of a particular Sloonei/Quin exchange spoke to me:

Spoiler: show

Quin

Cause this post. I don't think Sloonei posts this if you are teammates together.

ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is

He's making friends right off the bat.

I like this because it features a conscious disconnection of two others, based upon reasoning that I think is agreeable. It wasn't frivolous civilian reads or otherwise in the pocketing style I'd expect from an evil-doer. It's a dissociation which did not need to be made, and only benefits mafia Jack if each of the others (Sloonei and Quin) is also mafia. That's a huge ball of tinfoil to swallow.

Quin has made a bunch of posts and I cannot recall feeling much from any of them. Reminder to self to investigate.

A few DDL posts bug me:

Spoiler: show

I don't like this Epi lynch. Feels like there's a bunch of scum surrounding him like vultures waiting to see if they can lynch him or not. Lots of people "kind of" wanting to vote for him.

Gimme names. This kind of external, detached commentary doesn't do much to dissuade the lynch option being criticized.

Spoiler: show

Voting Sloonei, I agree on the point about fence sitting.

Sloonei did sit on the fence with regard to Epignosis, but he didn't exactly try to mask that:

Spoiler: show

I might be persuaded to go with Epi today, but as of right now I'd not be willing to put a definitive vote on him.

This post might as well have a flashing neon sign that says "free waffles". DDL hopping on with that accusation is a rather easy move.

Spoiler: show

I hate this argument about ties.

One of Kyle and Jack is bad.

Calling it now.

I appreciate that this read exists, but I don't know what motivates it. Tell me more about the argument about ties and why you hate it and why that reflects this way on Kyle/Jack. This is a serious request, I am not entirely clearly on that argument myself yet.

Spoiler: show

sloonei
nutella
LC

There, just looked at the thread and listed the people.

Now imma go back to catch up.

This was in response to a prod by Sloonei to expand on his grievance with the Epignosis voters I mentioned earlier. The addition of names is good, but it's unclear what the reader should be doing with them. It's typically not such a chore to get this sort of content from DDL given that he thrives on pressure as a civilian.

~~~

More puke later.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

[Epignosis]

What I do find confusing Jack is why you both believe Epi is bad and at the same time said you agree with him that Nutella is bad and your vote ended on Nutella. Where do you stand currently on Epi?

*eyebrow raise*

I thought I agreed with Epi on Night 1 that Nutella was good. If Epi agreed with me she was bad, that coincidental. My D1 Nutella read predated him taking a loud stance on her.

I still think Epi is bad. I want him to be good but the buddying and trying to scare people off him instead of hunting and pretending to not understand the case on him (misrepresenting LC) are still there so he's still bad imo.

Does it ever occur to you that...

...I'm only "buddying" somebody if I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...Scaring people off me is only a bad thing if I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...Not "hunting" is only your perspective because you assume I'm bad? (Circular argument)
...I'm not pretending to not understand the case on me because the case is circular bullshit?

You don't want me to be good. You want me to be bad.

Saying someone is acting bad assumes they really are bad. Otherwise, you're misinterpreting.

Ergo, all scumhunting is bunk.

Assuming someone is bad and then assigning evil motivations to everything he does isn't hunting. It's bullshit.

That's what Long Con did. I have to be bad in order to "buddy" someone (stupid word used in the context of mafia, might I add- "pocket" is a far superior, grown-up term). If I'm not bad, then I can't possibly be pocketing anybody, and the argument is circular bullshit. You have to assume I'm bad to believe I'm pocketing anybody. You cannot prove I am pocketing anybody until you have established that I am bad. You cannot do that without lynching me.

Or is that too much cause and effect for you?

You're still doing it backwards.

The claim was you appeared to be buddying therefore, you are bad and they are good.

What's so hard about this?

Because me pocketing someone is begging the question. That's shit.

[Epignosis]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

This isn't going to be a sexy take, but I'd like some of the inactives to be removed. After all of that Day 1 business, I only get the impression DDL is bad, and that's the best I could do. I always have more concrete opinions after a Day 1. This feels like civilians all tearing into one another, and while a part of me should know better, that's where I am right now.

[Quin]

@Long Con
@Quin

Assuming Nutella is not mafia, how does this change things for you?

I go on my merry way. We don't know why she survived so I'll have to entertain some possibilities.

[Marmot]

YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.

[Quin]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT



MovingPictures felt out of place, dangling on the side of the mountain from a 10-mil cord. Why was he there? He thought he'd get a better view of the valley below then just standing on the precipice itself.

But Sockface was stuck, hanging by a thread. And he was cold... Oh so cold...

Fortunately, a care package was dropped from a helicopter. There was a stuffed teddy bear inside.



JaggedJimmyJay has replace MovingPictures07

Woke up to a good 120 posts. I should have known.

[colonialbob]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

I'd be interested in thoughts on me/jack/LC. Also the vote swapping from Epi to Nutella

[JaggedJimmyJay]

okay, imofficially like, blitzed outta my mind so my brain would only allow me to do some skimming.... PLEASE I BEG OF YOU, GIVE ME THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT and at least allow me to read it with a fresh non tainted mentality.... However, I want to comment on a few things...

1 - Crazy cake lady, I'm absolutely obsessed with your avatar...

2 - Not too sure how I feel about Epiklsflaflgadfjlghfg (i can't spell) but the first few pages I was actually thinking questioning how one could be so confident on a players alignment. I was totally imaging some big buff he man like dude walking up and being like HEY, THESE TWO FUCKERS ARE GOOOOD ARRRRRRRRR I NO VOTE THEM, ARRR and while I feel intimidated into wanting to believe them... honey, i don't know you and you don't know me... at least take me on a date once before you try and assert your dominance

3 - The irony in this all is Long Cons - he's in it for the long run comment, which is ironic as shit given his name is Long con. However I see the hypothesis going a little too far with the Crazy Cake Lady.
First of all, I am not bad, I am merely an ex junky(well, depends what your definition of a junky is) who still smokes a fuck ton but I must say I can weed out(no pun intended) that baddies at some point in the game before all else goes to shit. I'm not going to say what they were doing was exactly pre flip associations but from the point that caught my eye it really seemed like they were already trying to plant some - if this, they must be that - seeds... which can actually be taken both ways... I may be discussing this like it's a bad thing but I'm not ready to disclose how I really feel about this player yet...

4- Kyle seems to be a little bit of a shit poster (sorry my dear friend) which from my 1 hosting game experience, I would expect tons of effort if they were scum... given i gave him a scum card and he tried his hardest with no shit post tier plays! so Kyle, let's be good friends and whip up a mountain of a storm together eh?

My thought process is kinda scattered at the moment... feel free to tell me I'm absolutely dumb as a bag of bricks.... but honestly I'm more better when I am active and having a run on conversation as opposed to just popping in and saying my peace... I will be around for a bit... lets chat!

Hi Mesk!

I saw you said somewhere here that you don't like to give reads on Day 1. That is something from another planet to me, but I won't judge the norms of other cultures -- I've seen stranger. Is that a personal decision or something typical of sc2?

More importantly, the post I've quoted here bears a meaty appearance but loses its value when the commentary doesn't amount to some manner of reads. You have said things about four players, and I have no idea how you feel about any of them. What civilian benefit is afforded to you or to other readers with this post?

[nutella]

Good puke Jay. I quite enjoyed the "meta pajamas" analogy. I also found your assessment of Jack to have merit and will keep that in mind as I sort out how I feel about him. And I agree with your funky vibes from DDL; even given that he's been posting while catching up, a lot of his posts have felt vague and directionless.

Tell me how you feel about all of the players whose usernames begin with S: sig, Sloonei, Spacedaisy, speedchuck, and sprityo.

[Epignosis]

JJJ is bad for buddying me.

[Quin]

lol, we seem to be having these type of conversations a lot this game, don't we Jack.

Don't take anything I say too seriously at the moment, I'm trying to just read things and think them through. I'm feeling very indecisive about how I am interpreting things at the moment.

If I have a hard and fast accusation to make, I will make it and you will know it.

I'm quite enjoying this version of daisy.

I can also tell I'm going to like Mesk. Fun posts to read, those were.

Now that I'm not dead (for now at least...) I'll see what I can do to sort out those reads I hastily mentioned. I've given a handful of reasons for my Jack suspicion, but depending on how the discussion goes I might back off of that a little and keep an open mind about him. Still probably my most likely vote candidate as of right now. As for Quin and Kyle, those were just a couple names that I decided to throw out there based on very minor gut feelings and the sense that I needed to suspect some of the more active/civ-passing players so as not to let them slip by with unfounded civ cred in case they are bad. Like I got the sense that Quin was making himself look very active while not actually saying much in the way of substantial/original ideas. Idk, I have some ISOs to look at.

[Spacedaisy]

I am the person Epi allegedly tried to intimidate on Day 1. He was not trying to intimidate me.

I was also the first person to bring up what has been dubbed his "buddying" of two players. I do not think this is a valid line of suspicion. It is on par with my Day 0 Daisy prod.

The case against Epignosis is a silly one.

This makes a difference in my view of my previous tinfoil of Epi/LC actually.

I'm heading to work, I'll check in occasionally but don't expect much out of me for the next seven hours or so.

Are you more inclined to look favorably on either one of them than you were before?

Yes I am more inclined to view Epi favorably. The back and forth was not something forced if another outside person started it. I don't know if it makes me feel any better about LC because it's still a crazy reach of a case he had been pushing. I expect a reach out of him now and again but more in a shake the tree kind of gambit, not in a case he continues to pursue like he has done here.

I'm more and more inclined to think Epi is good and really seems to be putting a new foot forward in his treatment of the other players. I appreciate that and want to see how it goes from here.

LC might be just falling into a normal pitfall for him, perhaps so programmed to suspect Epi that he can't see the lack of substance in his own case, but I don't know.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

I'd be interested in thoughts on me/jack/LC. Also the vote swapping from Epi to Nutella

I actually was just looking at your ISO. The long exchange you had with Jack at least looked dissociative (if that wasn't a word before it is now) -- I don't think you look like tiny mountains together. That point has limited value at present with no flips but whatever it came to mind.

I am less perturbed by your early poop fling at Sloonei than I was with DDL given that yours came first and it didn't last. I suggested in my puke that I think Jack looks good, at least for the point I raised. Could you summarize your suspicion of him for me? I raised concerns with LC separately, mostly relating to his dealings with Epignosis.

Also I am not entirely clear on everything that transpired with regard to vote movement. I'll need some help on that before I can offer much insight, otherwise I'll see you after I check myself.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Woke up to a good 120 posts. I should have known.

Ain't my damned fault this time.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JJJ is bad for buddying me.

I wish we had one of those shit emojis.

[Quin]

I'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.

Can you provide proof of this?

idk but this is a perfect opportunity to reaffirm that I'm a better mafia than Epignosis.

Good to know...

Mm. I thought I had a valid point but it got skipped over in Epi's catch up. I've realised my error but I already did the hyperlink and everything, so a response would be nice.

Uh, you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit: One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.

Wait a minute.

How does Long Con know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?

A valid question.

Alright I'm gonna go all Epi-style on this one. "Valid" is currently perhaps one of the most overused words in the English language. This post is devoid of meaning. All it really accomplishes is to express a "+1" sentiment toward Epi's question/"catch" of LC's so-called "slip", and a bit of a turnaround since Quin had been originally going hard against Epi.

How does Long Con know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?

A valid question.

I already let someone else prove it's not valid. Are you following along ok?

Yes sir. It's still a valid train of thought. You're not immune to scum slips.

Now he's on a hot pursuit for this possible slip. The way Quin jumps on this just reeks of opportunistic baddie to me.

I'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.

Can you provide proof of this?

Why was it necessary to have her prove this?

@Long Con Lost Again 3 comes to mind. But whatever man. I don't feel the need to prove I can play a good scum game. Especially given the fact that I am not scum in this game.

I also like this response. Quickly ending a conversation which seems of non-import to me. Unless LC wanted to glean something from it, in which case, read quote one.

Small thing I found amusing here. Quin expresses that he felt a conversation was pointless. Same thing he accused me of with regards to Epi vs. LC -- wanting to stifle discussion even if it might generate D1 content.

guys im on a roll give me more people to postspam

Eager boy!! Doggie wants his bone!
This could easily be more of a town style indicator, but I don't want to underestimate Quin's wifom capabilities. Like I said earlier, I'm wary of players who might be hiding in plain sight behind a hefty post count.

How many times have you seen me cast a single vote on Day 1 and leave it there?

Was I supposed to be paying attention to you all this time? I'm sorry.

I'm saying I throw my votes around willynilly on every Day 1 that I ever play in. You're usually pretty on the ball about what goes on in game threads, but you've seldom been skeptical of me for doing this in the past.

This is fair. Even if you don't pay that much attention you can get a general idea of what a person likes if you play with them enough. For example, I know that around Day 3 Jack and I are going to tear each others throats out.

I'm looking forward to that, if both of you make it that long.

Agreed with Quin Epi, Nutella bad.

Nutella being lazy is a scumtell. I don't think she thinks I'm bad nor thinks I'll get lynched but I'd rather....you know what? I'm not sure what Nutella is doing. We were teamed together and it was said that I focus too much on myself when I'm bad, as I focused too much on myself and tap danced to victory. So that's like...an unfriendly poke? But there's no weight behind it. It's not hunting. Feels like a distraction but it would only distract me onto her so...what is that for?

I don't want to switch to Nutella. I think she's more likely bad if Epi is bad and Epi is more likely to be bad if just one of them is. I dislike lynching people I suspect of being buddies with someone I suspect more. Like if we lynch Epi and he's town, I can revevaluate Nutella. If I lynch Nutella and she's town, I don't move on Epi. So why lynch Nutella first.

Anyhow, I think LC, Quin, Kyle, Sloonei are town in that order. Probably Bob too (don't listen to my Bob reads). Everyone else statistically probably town but not giving me reasons to think so.

I didn't just ISO like six people for second place. Re-evaluate your town reads, you jerk.

More of this openly tryhard-y crap.

And one other thing, he expresses a townread of Sloonei for a while, then turns on him with an accusation toward EOD. Just taking note of that development.

So that's all I've got for Quin. Could go either way on him, but there are definitely a few tidbits here that stick out as odd.

Reads develop. I may be suspicious of Epi, but he'll point out something that makes Long Con look bad. I look at him next, because I don't know if Epi is bad. ISO's made with the intention of pointing out things that make a person look bad are not ISO's.

I didn't do the same thing as you either. I brought LC into it because I wanted somebody important to the discussion to show me why my perspective was wrong. I didn't shit all over the entire thing like you did.

[Epignosis]

I had Tuesday.

I had Tacos.

I had Trivia. Sort of (the lady gave me a dirty look because I called out the answer. Apparently there are rules. I'm sorry if I know the name of Boston's drummer who died recently and nobody else has a clue).

Didn't have tequila though. Maker's Mark for me.

Carry on.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Good puke Jay. I quite enjoyed the "meta pajamas" analogy. I also found your assessment of Jack to have merit and will keep that in mind as I sort out how I feel about him. And I agree with your funky vibes from DDL; even given that he's been posting while catching up, a lot of his posts have felt vague and directionless.

Tell me how you feel about all of the players whose usernames begin with S: sig, Sloonei, Spacedaisy, speedchuck, and sprityo.

Without having done the deep digging yet that I'd like to do, I can spare some gut takes:

sig as a civilian pirate was more engaged and effortful in the high-octane Day 1 aboard the pirate ship than he was in this high-octane Day 1. Bad vibes.

Sloonei's thing about the eyeroll emoji amused me, and I don't know that I'd expect that flippant response to an accusation from Darth Sloonei. Good vibes.

Spacedaisy appears at a glance to be Doing Work. She has engaged numerous dialogues with an assertive tone, and is bringing the Big Posts. We don't always see this level of motivation from Annie. Good vibes.

speedchuck was willing to engage suspects pointedly, and he cut down his suspect pool with transparent civilian reads (or at least pledges not to lynch). I also like the tone he exhibited in his handling of the Epi/LC feud. Good vibes.

sprityo's posts don't offer much in the way of original contribution. Reads exist here but I don't follow their origins, and there's some piggy-backing happening. That's not ideal. Bad vibes.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] do you have any idea what your most active (by post count) mafia-aligned game has been on a forum that isn't deleted?

[colonialbob]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

I'd be interested in thoughts on me/jack/LC. Also the vote swapping from Epi to Nutella

I actually was just looking at your ISO. The long exchange you had with Jack at least looked dissociative (if that wasn't a word before it is now) -- I don't think you look like tiny mountains together. That point has limited value at present with no flips but whatever it came to mind.

I am less perturbed by your early poop fling at Sloonei than I was with DDL given that yours came first and it didn't last. I suggested in my puke that I think Jack looks good, at least for the point I raised. Could you summarize your suspicion of him for me? I raised concerns with LC separately, mostly relating to his dealings with Epignosis.

Also I am not entirely clear on everything that transpired with regard to vote movement. I'll need some help on that before I can offer much insight, otherwise I'll see you after I check myself.

It's kinda meta. His posting early on reminded me of his play in the HCRealms/Syndicate crossover, where he kept going on meta tangents and shunting the thread away from actual reads. He was mafia that game, I called him out D1 and got NKed for it. But he's provided some reads since then, and while I don't entirely agree with him on say LC/Epi, his posts feel genuine enough that I'm fine with him now.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei do you have any idea what your most active (by post count) mafia-aligned game has been on a forum that isn't deleted?

Either Street Fighter or the Champs game. Slim pickings.

[speedchuck]

y'all talk too much

I'm not voting for Dom on Day 2. For this is the best post in the thread.

buddying

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Sloonei do you have any idea what your most active (by post count) mafia-aligned game has been on a forum that isn't deleted?

Either Street Fighter or the Champs game. Slim pickings.

k

Also:

Spoiler: show

[Epignosis]

Is that Bill Clinton with a syringe in his dick?

[Sloonei]

Is that Bill Clinton with a syringe in his dick?

A Bill Clinton corkscrew. For opening bottles and such.

[Sloonei]

Of the active folks, I feel like one of Long Con or Jack is being less than honest. I don't say that as if there's a relationship between the two of them that indicates one should be bad, but I feel like I've been getting hung up on more of their posts than anyone else in the game, and that doesn't usually sit well with me.

DDL is my top suspect. I didn't love the way he handled my brief interrogation of him earlier. He seemed resistant to the idea of sharing ideas.

Then there's quiet people. I'd forget sig was playing if his name wasn't on the poll.

[Epignosis]

Is that Bill Clinton with a syringe in his dick?

A Bill Clinton corkscrew. For opening bottles and such.

Makes sense. Hillary doesn't have a can.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Everyone should tell me what things in this thread you feel are most important/most warrant my attention and discussion among those I didn't just address.

I'd be interested in thoughts on me/jack/LC. Also the vote swapping from Epi to Nutella

This is my favorite post from Bob cause I like it but I didn't think to ask about the Epi to Nutella switch. I think Bob is unlikely scumbuddies with Epi. (Jimmy encouraging me to be a better player makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Plz ignore my badness last time I said that.)

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

Tell me more about Quin. I thought he had a lot of content but you don't seem to have a strong opinion.

Tell me more about Daisy. I feel like I have a gut read and that's it. I usually don't feel like I'm great at reading Daisy. You probably know her better than I do.

Gun to the head read on DDL? The odd playstyke has been noted but what's your bottom line?

[Sloonei]

I'm also interested what people think of elohcin. She's seems more involved than usual, I never know how to read her so I don't know how to read this version of her.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay. Cards on the table. Hope this doesn't count as info dumping.























I'm 30. Am I LC junior or is he JoH junior?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm also interested what people think of elohcin. She's seems more involved than usual, I never know how to read her so I don't know how to read this version of her.

Eloh gets annoyed halfway through her D1 read, throws hands up and says LC is bad.

"More involved than usual."

[Epignosis]

Okay. Cards on the table. Hope this doesn't count as info dumping.























I'm 30. Am I LC junior or is he JoH junior?

Long Con has toenail clippings older than you.

[Long Con]

:nod:

[Long Con]

Hmmm...

[Epignosis]

srsnod dude. Not nod.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

Your thoughts?

Also, did this give you a bell notification?

[Epignosis]

As of right now, my vote is going to Dom tomorrow. He's been here as long as I have, and game after game he acts like everybody gets three or four posts a piece. And acting is what he does.

[Jackofhearts2005]

As of right now, my vote is going to Dom tomorrow. He's been here as long as I have, and game after game he acts like everybody gets three or four posts a piece. And acting is what he does.

Is this idea annoyance based or do you think this is alignment indicative for Dom?

[Epignosis]

As of right now, my vote is going to Dom tomorrow. He's been here as long as I have, and game after game he acts like everybody gets three or four posts a piece. And acting is what he does.

Is this idea annoyance based or do you think this is alignment indicative for Dom?

I already spoke on this, did I not? If you are good, and LC is good, and I'm good, then there's a lot of talkative people going after each other and far more people doing nothing and getting away with it.

Lynch a quiet fucker.