Mountain Mafia [END]

[dunya]

Btw

What do you mean Sloonei was not KC?

My world is shattered forever.

Who is KC? You mean KFC?

[dunya]

if sig is town, can we lynch speedchuck next?

[dunya]

or do we have to do nijuu first too? I mean, I'm down for that too.

[dunya]

mayhaps [mention]Marmot[/mention] will take pity on our souls and end day earlier if we've all parked on sig?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Btw

What do you mean Sloonei was not KC?

My world is shattered forever.

Who is KC? You mean KFC?

K2

[dunya]

But the C is far away from the 2, that typo made me laugh so much I'm sorry <3

[speedchuck]

Well this is frustrating

[speedchuck]

I had a whole petition typed up, but no. Nope. Not even worth it. GG then.

[speedchuck]

*votes Sig*

[Marmot]

mayhaps @Marmot will take pity on our souls and end day earlier if we've all parked on sig?

Spoiler: show

[Long Con]

GG then.

What, are you Olympus Mons or something? Maybe your win condition is to have your height be taller than all the mountains on Earth combined?

I know you can't verify any truth, but just thought I'd ask.

[speedchuck]

I can neither confirm or deny

[Long Con]

Well, you can deny. I obviously just denied I was Olympus Mons, though I did check with the host to ensure that was allowed. I promised not to go crazy and deny every role except my own, or something.

Is the game over? Do you really know that?

[Long Con]

Although I have been believing Olympus was Kyle, of course.

[Kylemii]

Although I have been believing Olympus was Kyle, of course.

I've been accusing you of being olympus all game what kind of strategy would that be

[dunya]

I had a whole petition typed up, but no. Nope. Not even worth it. GG then.

what are you talking about? yesterday you begged us to lynch sig and nijuu before you so you could be "alive" to win with town.

[dunya]

Although I have been believing Olympus was Kyle, of course.

Kyle is obv not Olympus.

I'm intrigued. I genuinely thought it was you. Who's to say you're not Olympus and just lying about not being Olympus anyway? Then again, it could be one of the people night killed.

[dunya]

I really wasn't that concerned about Olympus since he wins with town, and scum has to get rid of him before winning, so he's a threat to scum, not us.

[dunya]

Olympus's win condition is hidden, but I mean, the big mountains have to eliminate the small mountains to win.

The small mountains have to eliminate ALL mountains to win.

Olympus clearly is no threat to town or we'd have to eliminate him. He's a threat to the scum team though.

[dunya]

I'd like to know what people are going to do if sig flips town?

[Long Con]

Lynch nijuu?

[Kylemii]

the mafia actually only has to get rid of the 'earthly mountains' so Olympus Mons isn't exactly on our side but is still pretty much neutral, we don't know what their win condition could be...

It could be something like "get these specific civvie roles lynched from the game" or "get lynched on day 9" those wincons wouldn't necessarily be town friendly, but would technically not be against the town

[Kylemii]

speedchuck's request of "just lynch me" also has no explanation based on civvie roles. I had wondered if he might be Pico de Orizaba but that role can only revenge kill players who vote for it.

[speedchuck]

speedchuck's request of "just lynch me" also has no explanation based on civvie roles. I had wondered if he might be Pico de Orizaba but that role can only revenge kill players who vote for it.

I rescind that request. I do not wish to be lynched anymore. I don't really care either way.

[speedchuck]

Well, you can deny. I obviously just denied I was Olympus Mons, though I did check with the host to ensure that was allowed. I promised not to go crazy and deny every role except my own, or something.

Is the game over? Do you really know that?

I am saying nothing.

No idea if the game is over, but forgoing the nightkill would be really stupid for anyone in the game. I'm 99% certain last scum is Sig.

[speedchuck]

Come to think of it, if you lynch me today, my actions will all make sense and you can decide what to do with Sig.

Offer reinstated. Bring it. The worst that happens is that you lose me and the game ends 2 days later. There's not even a nightkill to worry about.

*votes for self*

[speedchuck]

Come on, come on. What have you got to lose?

[Kylemii]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

[Long Con]

I don't know dude...

[speedchuck]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

That doesn't make any sense.

I don't know dude...

But I do. That's why I must be lynched. Then you'll know.

This is the weirdest way to get around a no-claiming rule ever. I hope it doesn't upset the host.

[dunya]

Jay's mentions of nijuuINHglor:

INSERTNAMEHERE/GLORFINDEL
SPACEDAISY
DOM

bad
good
bad

Jay's first mention of nijuuINHglor. In his fake GTH reads, he lists them as "Bad"

It is literally the only mention in his ISO of nijuuINHglor.

He talked plenty about Dom and Mesk and even sig (the last I will probably make a similar post for after this one). But that's all he spoke of INH?

DrWilgy's mentions of nijuuINHglor:

Thanks for this Speedchuck.

Something that caught my eye was the "INH/BLP - uuuuuuh good." To your knowledge, did Cbob ever attempt or push an INH lynch?
"Mount Elbrus - Twice in the game, Elbrus may peek at another player’s alignment, though he will only learn the truth on one of these occasions."

It is possible that Elbrus checked INH but responded with "uuuuuuh" because he didn't know if he could trust his double edged sword result.

Linki - Interesting, I can toss that theory a bone. How was Cbob's interactions with Sloonei before and after the JJJ lynch?

It's true that it could be due to no posts, but this is contrast to his earlier "No reads on Dom, Wilgy, INH, sprit."

Did anything really warrant a change there? Out of us four why did only INH get the "uhhhhhh?" (I promise I'm not jealous or anything... It's not like I wanted Cbob's uhhhhh.)

Re Sloonei, I can ship it and it makes rational sense, but Sloonei is the person I have felt the worst about since JoH died. Guess I gotta take another step back.

Wilgy trying to build doubt in our minds on cBob's use of "uhhhh" in front of INH. He elaborated on it and makes a joke on "how he's not jealous", but he is undoubtedly trying to push that as a good thing from cBob's list of reads, like he checked INH and there was a possibility he was good.

Feels very forced to me.

He does go on to pair Nijuu with sig after she replaces in and suddenly he has a harder time validating nijuuINHglor as a civ.

Did more thinking about Sloonei's reason for civ questions. I don't have the time to list em out or explain right now, but the ones I had the hardest time validating as civs were (and in this order) Niju-sig, Dunya, Long Con, Quin. With everyone else, I can see them in a civ light easier.

His last post was "why aren't you lynching: dunya, sig, LC or Quin"

Wtf is going on

You tell us

I just got here dude. Why aren't we lynching Dunya, Sig, Quin or LC?

no mention of nijuuINHglor, which is weird since he paired them together before.



Eloh's mentions of nijuuINHglor:

Eloh's fist mention of INH was listing him directly under DrWilgy on her rainbow.

I was amazed at how many called me scum in their gth reads. Does this reflect my contributions thus far or mostly what you were feeling from sprityo? Genuinely curious.

I fell asleep after your first handful of posts (you must have been boring )and just woke up to the GTH reads. So my read was about 90% sprit and 10% dunya, without having read most of your contributions.

Fair enough. I don't know you well, but I feel your answer here is genuine.

I kind of did my own GTH as I was reading through the thread. Of the low posters, I think Dom and wilgy may be good although there was one post of wilgy's that seemed very scum, but then he better explained himself and that sounded pretty genuine. But then again maybe it was a slip and he noticed how scum he sounded and then just tried to make up for it well. I think INH and mesk could be bad. Oh and sig is quiet too but I'm unsure about him. I could be missing some. Of the outspoken players, i think jjj, cbob, and dunya are good. I think thats all. The others are all in between participants imo, not over chatty and not too quiet. Maybe I'll try doing a list of my gth tomorrow qhere I can include everyone. I'm very sleepy.

She mentions INH here again and pairs him with mesk, as "could be bad". She didn't shy away from calling Wilgy bad. She called Jay good. I don't feel like she had to mention all three of her scum mates in this post, so this could be a -1 for why nijuuINHglor are scum. I would say her "Oh and sig is quiet too..." is more suspicious in this context, assuming she decided to mention all 3 teammates.

YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.

INH replaced in with time to submit a kill for Night 1.

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

insertnamehere posted elsewhere at 11:36pm EST this same evening.

And dunya said that she thinks there is more of a team kill rather than a specific role that can send in the kill because if it were a specific role then marmot would have replaced her there.

So if only the killer mafia role is allowed to send in a kill, then I think it has to velong toneither INH or dunya. Most likely INH since he replaced in first. @Marmot can the team send in the kill as a group pm? (Hey... doesn't hurt to ask, right?)

here she throws nijuuINHglor under the bus. But this was all to be taken with a grain of salt, because she's saying IF THE TEAM CANT SEND THE KILL as group, then it has to be either INH or dunya. she goes on to (lol) asking Marmot. Of course she knew the answer to this already, though. So what does her post offer us contextually?

Dunya...before I go to bed... I don't put as much time into mafia as you do. We cannot all do that. I am responsible for three (possibly 4 if you count epi) lives other than my own. For their education, discipline, and well being. I have not made any in depth cases for anyone. I rarely do. But, I share my opinion often of what's going down in the thread and I participate as much as possible, and I vote! I'm here to help as much as I can. You can't punish me for being mediocre. I'm much better for the civs than INH, sig, and other non-participants.

I think our problem is we're bouncing around too much. What happened to our suspicons of say...sig, INH, kyle? I thunk we suspect people and then move on to someone else without finding out if our suspicons are correct. And.... I think (if we have vocal baddies) they're who must have a hand in steering us away. I still think LC could most definitely be bad. Anyway...not fully caught up, but I've had my one cup of coffee,so I must get off my ass and do some more work.

she keeps mentioning INH's name. She's better for civs than INH (this is when I was harping her about her inconsistencies and possible scumtells). It's more than likely she'll throw us a bone to catch and latch onto. INH as their inactive voter and sutter buttes which means they didn't even benefit from his role. Definitely highly suspicious of INH now.

Epi, whi INH? You seem to place votes on inactives early in the day and then come around EoD to place a real vote on a player you find suspicious. Am I correct in this?

questions Epi on his INH vote. Feels like she's feeling him out how serious he is at keeping it there or moving it. If it's going to be a full blown case, I bet she wanted some of the credit by bussing INH.

I mean.... it's possible one of the role secrets is a protect or a roleblock but.... 2/5 is a really bad murder success record.

This is true. Is there is a protect or roleblock secret, then that person must have a leprechaun in his butt. And if so...keep up the good work.

If not, then I think JJJ might have been the only really active baddie and that's why he played so shitty (no offense J). Anyone know of a game where JJJ was a lonesome baddie and know how he played in it? Let's see...some quiet/quieter players include Sig, INH, Wilgy, even Epi and nutella have been quieter than usual imo and could have missed deadlines. Think about how the end of phases have been pretty all over the place as well. It could have caused missing the deadline. I don't know. Lots to think about. Lots more to read too.

Tries to harpoon on this "baddies must all be inactive cos no kills" and lists some names. Includes INH, cos she has to. But then makes a soft defence of him to nutella, whom was a suspect on her list too:

Anyone got any good reasons to choose either sig or inh over the other?

Sig has posts and INH doesn't is the only reason I can think of. I would think if someone opened their role PM and saw it was scum, they would at least ty a little bit to help out his/her team rather than just being a total no-show. I think ita more likely that a civ is the no-show.

ooops, I closed Eloh's ISO.

Anyway, I really want to lynch nijuu before sig now.

Any takers?

[speedchuck]

I mean, I understand. This game is over 3 weeks long now, thanks to Thanksgiving. I'm asking you to extend it, ever so slightly, by lynching me. You're tired and you want to go ahead and take the well-deserved win. I get it. I understand. I'm sorry.

If you guys want to go ahead and hit the home run, I don't blame you.

linki: Would niju really forgo the kill? I doubt it.

[Kylemii]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

That doesn't make any sense.
what's the fun in killing someone who wants to die

[Kylemii]

oh fuck

[speedchuck]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

That doesn't make any sense.

what's the fun in killing someone who wants to die

We lynch for reasons in this game, not for fun.

[Kylemii]

I really just don't understand how it would benefit anyone?

[dunya]

I mean, I understand. This game is over 3 weeks long now, thanks to Thanksgiving. I'm asking you to extend it, ever so slightly, by lynching me. You're tired and you want to go ahead and take the well-deserved win. I get it. I understand. I'm sorry.

If you guys want to go ahead and hit the home run, I don't blame you.

linki: Would niju really forgo the kill? I doubt it.

a. it's posisble
b. it's possible she targeted someone who was somehow protected
c. it's possible it's not her of course

But I'm voting for her out of conviction. It seems so odd how Jay pushed inactive lynches and sidestepped INH completely! Wilgy's soft denfence of INH and Eloh's mixed bag of casting doubt then trying to defend INH is just weird.

[speedchuck]

I really just don't understand how it would benefit anyone?

Only 2 ways to find out.

1. lynch me
2. end the game I guess that works too but then it's too late

[dunya]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

That doesn't make any sense.

what's the fun in killing someone who wants to die

We lynch for reasons in this game, not for fun.

the fact you WANT to be lynched is scary now. I feel like you want to get lynched so you can take me out with you cos you're upset about my case on you yesterday.

[Long Con]

Damn it speed, fine but you owe me one.

You're a freakin workhorse dunya

[speedchuck]

Yeah okay I could lynch Niju. Voting there.

linki: hahahaha I'm not mad at you dunya. I promise.
linki2: Well now I have to self-vote again

[dunya]

I really just don't understand how it would benefit anyone?

Only 2 ways to find out.

1. lynch me
2. end the game I guess that works too but then it's too late

you're being very cryptic. We outnumber scum 8 to 1 if we don't count Olympus whoever he may be *im looking at you LC*

There is no "it's too late". We have time, and if this game has taught us anything, it's extra time has made us way more united and effective as a Town-team.

[dunya]

Damn it speed, fine but you owe me one.

You're a freakin workhorse dunya

lynch nijuu please. for all my efforts and time.

[speedchuck]

I really just don't understand how it would benefit anyone?

Only 2 ways to find out.

1. lynch me
2. end the game I guess that works too but then it's too late

you're being very cryptic. We outnumber scum 8 to 1 if we don't count Olympus whoever he may be *im looking at you LC*

There is no "it's too late". We have time, and if this game has taught us anything, it's extra time has made us way more united and effective as a Town-team.

Ending the game would definitely make things "too late." I mean, the game's ended. Sorry about being cryptic. Can't help that.

I'll assist with either my lynch or I guess Niju's. Though I'd probably prefer mine.

[Kylemii]

I was going to vote for you until you changed your mind and decided you wanted to die again. :/

That doesn't make any sense.

what's the fun in killing someone who wants to die

We lynch for reasons in this game, not for fun.

games are meant to be fun.

i'm positive that lynching sig will lead us to victory. Like.... 60% sure of it. I have no reason to believe that lynching you will make us win faster, than lynching sig would, the only reason for me to lynch you would be to appeal to my own sense of curiousity and often self-destructively capricious nature.

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

[dunya]

Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

You said you wanted to do this alphabetically. N comes before S.

[speedchuck]

i'm positive that lynching sig will lead us to victory. Like.... 60% sure of it.

60%? Really? Such certainty.

I have no reason to believe that lynching you will make us win faster, than lynching sig would, the only reason for me to lynch you would be to appeal to my own sense of curiousity and often self-destructively capricious nature.

It's a dangerous mystery

Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

Today? Yes.

[dunya]

[mention]nutella[/mention] - what do you think of everything. sig or nijuu or speedchuck?

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

Today? Yes.

today but not always?