That Macdougall is a player who likes to cause a ruckus.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:52 amSpecifically, he has adopted Epignosis's suspicion of a Sloonei/JJJ team as being viable. You think that suspicion was a lie in the first place. What does that mean to you?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:51 amI don't disbelieve that he would act the way that he's acting as town, but there's not enough there to have a solid read.
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You're giving people not named Kyle passes. Why are you giving people not named Kyle passes?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:55 amThat Macdougall is a player who likes to cause a ruckus.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:52 amSpecifically, he has adopted Epignosis's suspicion of a Sloonei/JJJ team as being viable. You think that suspicion was a lie in the first place. What does that mean to you?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:51 amI don't disbelieve that he would act the way that he's acting as town, but there's not enough there to have a solid read.
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I appreciate that this post exists for non-game reasons. It tells me novaseline has a good hear. It doesn't tell me what his thoughts on this game are.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:53 am Hello guys,
I just got informed that someone was uncomfortable with my avatar (pepe the frog) and that it may have hurt them. I deleted it immediately and would like to apologize to the person or persons I made uncomfortable with it. I really feel bad and I am very sorry.
Hope you'll enjoy the game from now on,
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This is Dizzy's only relevant post. At face value I don't think it looks bad, though an explanation for the Kyle read would be swell.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:14 am So far, Kyle is very likely town. The rest is whatever. Except everyone are super cute and adorable. <3
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Because I don't think Day 1 mud flinging is a scum tell for these players. I don't necessarily think it's a town tell either. In Epi's case I feel good about him because I don't think scum Epi would be so blatant about the plan you are proposing. He's a slight town read for now. Mac is a null read at this point, and I still don't really know how to read him as a player in general.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:56 amYou're giving people not named Kyle passes. Why are you giving people not named Kyle passes?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:55 amThat Macdougall is a player who likes to cause a ruckus.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:52 amSpecifically, he has adopted Epignosis's suspicion of a Sloonei/JJJ team as being viable. You think that suspicion was a lie in the first place. What does that mean to you?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:51 amI don't disbelieve that he would act the way that he's acting as town, but there's not enough there to have a solid read.
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This is Daisy's only relevant post. It's "interesting".Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 pmThis is interesting. I need to think on this because traditionally I've always viewed civs with BTSC as one of the strongest things the civs can have...speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:
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Because I don't think Day 1 mud flinging is a scum tell for these players. I don't necessarily think it's a town tell either. In Epi's case I feel good about him because I don't think scum Epi would be so blatant about the plan you are proposing. He's a slight town read for now. Mac is a null read at this point, and I still don't really know how to read him as a player in general.
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DizzyingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:00 pmThis is Daisy's only relevant post. It's "interesting".Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 pmThis is interesting. I need to think on this because traditionally I've always viewed civs with BTSC as one of the strongest things the civs can have...speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:
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It's not thrilling that her only thing is mechanical/role babble.
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*eyeball twitch*
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:01 pmWhat is your read on me?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:59 am Because I don't think Day 1 mud flinging is a scum tell for these players. I don't necessarily think it's a town tell either. In Epi's case I feel good about him because I don't think scum Epi would be so blatant about the plan you are proposing. He's a slight town read for now. Mac is a null read at this point, and I still don't really know how to read him as a player in general.
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You reacted more strongly to Epi's joint suspicion against us than I did and cast a vote that I don't agree with, so I'm iffy and wanting to see more.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 pm *eyeball twitch*
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:01 pmWhat is your read on me?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:59 am Because I don't think Day 1 mud flinging is a scum tell for these players. I don't necessarily think it's a town tell either. In Epi's case I feel good about him because I don't think scum Epi would be so blatant about the plan you are proposing. He's a slight town read for now. Mac is a null read at this point, and I still don't really know how to read him as a player in general.
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You reacted more strongly to Epi's joint suspicion against us than I did and cast a vote that I don't agree with, so I'm iffy and wanting to see more.
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I want to ensure people can keep up. I've topped the post count again.
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I didn't feel like his response to your fake tell was authentic, he was more combative/dismissive than productive (this was what I hoped to highlight in my single-word case against him), and the development of his read on you appeared incongruous (jumping from a clear cut "bad look" to "NAI" when you explained yourself). I'm also unclear on his read on me and the way it has progressed.
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[mention]Sloonei[/mention], if Epi's suspicion of me is built upon my reaction to his turd, why is the premier premise he's promoted that my initial poop on Kyle was a performance rather than a real attempt to generate content? That was my first action in this thread, well before he turded you and I.
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I don't know. Epi should answer this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:23 pm Sloonei, if Epi's suspicion of me is built upon my reaction to his turd, why is the premier premise he's promoted that my initial poop on Kyle was a performance rather than a real attempt to generate content? That was my first action in this thread, well before he turded you and I.
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Hey Diz. Kyle's clear for me at this point as well. I really enjoyed his post about his expectations for Sloonei.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:14 am So far, Kyle is very likely town. The rest is whatever. Except everyone are super cute and adorable. <3
Epignosis has shown more than once, his ability to use bizarro Epi-Logic for his cases early on. I know this intimately. You've been there before, why is this making you OMGUS so hard?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:44 am Epignosis is my final vote. The guy said it’s same shit different day, meaning he is well aware that my play in this game is ordinary for a civilian JJJ. His case is contngent upon that.
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It's really, really, really, really not.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:31 amThis is the biggest load of shit I've ever seen Epignosis dump into a Mafia thread.
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I swear that "omgus" is one of the silliest notions in Mafia, and we'd all be better off if it just disappeared. I mean seriously, whenever I am revealed to be town, please take that to heart folks.
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That might be my campaign for 2018 alongside Sloonei's fight against ketchup.
Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
No u is stupid.
Omgus is stupid.
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That might be my campaign for 2018 alongside Sloonei's fight against ketchup.
Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
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JJJ: "I am good because I'm doing what I normally do D1, and what I would only do as town. It would make no sense if I did this as scum."
Also JJJ: "I don't care what Epi usually does when he's town. It's scummy. I hate it, and that defines my read. Don't care if it makes no sense for him to do this as scum."
Also JJJ: "I don't care what Epi usually does when he's town. It's scummy. I hate it, and that defines my read. Don't care if it makes no sense for him to do this as scum."
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I voted JJJ just now, BTW. Bracing myself for fallout.
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I didn't say that.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:57 pm JJJ: "I am good because I'm doing what I normally do D1, and what I would only do as town."
I didn't say that.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:57 pmAlso JJJ: "Don't care if it makes no sense for him to do this as scum."
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What I did say:
Epignosis is suggesting that what I did was an act. I don't believe him. There is a very obvious reason why he shouldn't have that opinion which I unfortunately cannot say in this thread within the spirit of the site. I already stated his mafia motive for the Sloonei/JJJ shit, and nobody should have to squeeze their brains too hard to find a mafia motive for "get JJJ mislynched".
Epignosis is suggesting that what I did was an act. I don't believe him. There is a very obvious reason why he shouldn't have that opinion which I unfortunately cannot say in this thread within the spirit of the site. I already stated his mafia motive for the Sloonei/JJJ shit, and nobody should have to squeeze their brains too hard to find a mafia motive for "get JJJ mislynched".
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:47 am Anyone who really believes I would prefer to whip this thread into a frenzy for appearances than just let it snail along with nothing but theme-inspired chatter has no clue about my mafia-aligned play. No clue.
I guess I can't paraphrase, then.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 pm Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
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Epi says things that I really believe we both know to not be true, but he acts like it's the opposite. Recently, he used some backwards logic to try to convince everyone that I had slipped, and no amount of correct, linear breakdown of what was wrong with his backwards logic would get him to bat an eyelash about it. That's the Civ Epi I know, I can't remember what bad Epi is like in the early game. Does he plant instigation seeds? Can't recall.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 pm I swear that "omgus" is one of the silliest notions in Mafia, and we'd all be better off if it just disappeared. I mean seriously, whenever I am revealed to be town, please take that to heart folks.
No u is stupid.
Omgus is stupid.
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That might be my campaign for 2018 alongside Sloonei's fight against ketchup.
Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
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Agreed, you can't. You shoved two addendums into those paraphrasings that morph their meaning.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:10 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:47 am Anyone who really believes I would prefer to whip this thread into a frenzy for appearances than just let it snail along with nothing but theme-inspired chatter has no clue about my mafia-aligned play. No clue.I guess I can't paraphrase, then.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 pm Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
I never said Epi's actions don't make sense for him as a scum. I don't know why you'd stick those words in my mouth when I have been yelling for his head all of Day 1. I also suggested that I understand people generally won't take my comments about my own playing methods at face value, because accepting that WIFOM is beyond their civilian boundaries.
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If people are going to vote for me, I just have one request: keep the tally close. Don't let the wagon take off.
Suspect me for saying that if you want, I don't give a shit. Just please keep it close.
Suspect me for saying that if you want, I don't give a shit. Just please keep it close.
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I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:15 pmEpi says things that I really believe we both know to not be true, but he acts like it's the opposite. Recently, he used some backwards logic to try to convince everyone that I had slipped, and no amount of correct, linear breakdown of what was wrong with his backwards logic would get him to bat an eyelash about it. That's the Civ Epi I know, I can't remember what bad Epi is like in the early game. Does he plant instigation seeds? Can't recall.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 pm I swear that "omgus" is one of the silliest notions in Mafia, and we'd all be better off if it just disappeared. I mean seriously, whenever I am revealed to be town, please take that to heart folks.
No u is stupid.
Omgus is stupid.
No more.
That might be my campaign for 2018 alongside Sloonei's fight against ketchup.
Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
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What was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
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Yes. The Epi/LC dynamic is in play here, only Epi changed his target to Jay to shake things up.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:15 pmEpi says things that I really believe we both know to not be true, but he acts like it's the opposite. Recently, he used some backwards logic to try to convince everyone that I had slipped, and no amount of correct, linear breakdown of what was wrong with his backwards logic would get him to bat an eyelash about it. That's the Civ Epi I know, I can't remember what bad Epi is like in the early game. Does he plant instigation seeds? Can't recall.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 pm I swear that "omgus" is one of the silliest notions in Mafia, and we'd all be better off if it just disappeared. I mean seriously, whenever I am revealed to be town, please take that to heart folks.
No u is stupid.
Omgus is stupid.
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That might be my campaign for 2018 alongside Sloonei's fight against ketchup.
Anyway, to answer your question LC, I don't care what is perceived to be "normal" for Epignosis. This kind of "that's Epi being Epi" shit is what he has thrived on as a bad guy since I joined this website and probably long before. He can do or say basically anything and people refuse to actually dig into it with any thoroughness -- it's infuriating. If I see something that I hate at face value, then that is going to define my read. You might understand where I stand better than most here because you have gotten into plenty of Day 1 combat with Epignosis. In the scenarios where you both ended up being town, can you describe in general terms the behavior you have felt is so suspicious that you ended up wrong about? Don't spend a lot of time on this since it's external meta; I'm just asking for a tip.
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Supatown!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
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Sure the former, no way the latter.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pmSupatown!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
What am I like in this game, Marmot?
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Could be. If so, it sheds a lot of new light on why that always sets LC off so much.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
In mountain mafia, you replaced in and threw crap at your teammates till you died. I didn't see the case at the time. Flip surprised me.
In Phenon, I was dead, and knew who you were. The most I remember was you putting in a ton of effort at the end, getting emotional about the lynch, and appealing to your effort to keep the thread going (which you now say was a load of crap ).
You're usually a lot cooler and more consistent than you're being this game, so the best comparison I can throw to would be the games above. Especially Phenon. I can't know if you're throwing crap at teammates right now, unless Epig is scum with you. Then we'd also include the game where Sloonei said you bussed him D1 as a point of comparison.
There's probably more to your play than that, but I'm not rereading your games. That would take forever. I'm also not suspecting you for the same reasons as Epi.
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I don't know, I haven't read many of your posts yet.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:30 pmSure the former, no way the latter.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pmSupatown!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
What am I like in this game, Marmot?
What am I like in this game J^3?
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Darn it, I was going to bold something and then missed a tag when I was deleting it.
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It pretty much was a disclaimer. I actually just didn't want to talk about it anymore. I was tired and I'm bad at day 1's and I'd mostly only heard like 5 different people talk.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:17 amThat's not a point. That's like... a disclaimer or something.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:14 amthe other stuff you've said basically amounts to sandbagging but this part is a valid point, I thinkJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:41 amBelieve me or don't, this entire dialogue is just WIFOM to people who aren't me.
I think Jay's presented attitude that his civvie meta would be a burden for his team as mafia is sandbagging and his insistence that he would never do it seems false. Adopting something into your civvie-ness meta means you *have* to add it to your mafia meta, and I think Jay knows that.
the thread is bound to accelerate at some point even without Jay's interference so why wouldn't it be beneficial for jay to be the one to accelerate it? It's not about town credit or whatever it's about pragmatic choices and wearing the mask. It's about avoiding the inevitable "thread is quiet and jay hasn't thrown shit today, isn't that weird? maybe he's not as interested in finding mafia as usual for some reason"
Jay's insistence that he would never use that tactic as mafia is what bothers me the most, because it seems like a necessity more than an option.
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*head explodes*speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:32 pmand appealing to your effort to keep the thread going (which you now say was a load of crap ).
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My effort to keep the thread going in that game was bogus and it didn't work -- I was vomiting b/s. That thread stayed slow because I wanted it to. This thread stopped being slow because I wanted it to.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:59 am I don't care what bothers you. I won Phenon: Origins because the civilians were generally disengaged and did not try. I won Transistor because the civilians were generally disengaged and did not try. Rule #1 is to let a lazy thread remain lazy. There have been instances where I've provided some half-assed fake "motivation", like "let's go, the thread is moving too slow". Those things never matter and don't hasten the thread pace.
If you really believe the highlighted portion, then you need to play more games with me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:32 pmYou're usually a lot cooler and more consistent than you're being this game, so the best comparison I can throw to would be the games above. Especially Phenon. I can't know if you're throwing crap at teammates right now, unless Epig is scum with you. Then we'd also include the game where Sloonei said you bussed him D1 as a point of comparison.
There's probably more to your play than that, but I'm not rereading your games. That would take forever. I'm also not suspecting you for the same reasons as Epi.
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This is where your perception of this game and my perception so differ.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:33 pm the thread is bound to accelerate at some point even without Jay's interference so why wouldn't it be beneficial for jay to be the one to accelerate it? It's not about town credit or whatever it's about pragmatic choices and wearing the mask. It's about avoiding the inevitable "thread is quiet and jay hasn't thrown shit today, isn't that weird? maybe he's not as interested in finding mafia as usual for some reason"
Would the game have "accelerated" without my interference? Technically, yes, it'd have moved a bit faster than the nothing of the first 12 hours of Day 0. Would it have blown the hell up without my interference?
Nope.
Fuck nope.
Call me arrogant. Tell me I'm taking too much credit. Don't give a damn. It's what I believe and it's why I blew it up.
There are two games going with a lot of player overlap. This one was set to be a snail without some help. I helped.
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Unfortunately, that won't help him in his read of you in this moment.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:37 pmIf you really believe the highlighted portion, then you need to play more games with me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:32 pmYou're usually a lot cooler and more consistent than you're being this game, so the best comparison I can throw to would be the games above. Especially Phenon. I can't know if you're throwing crap at teammates right now, unless Epig is scum with you. Then we'd also include the game where Sloonei said you bussed him D1 as a point of comparison.
There's probably more to your play than that, but I'm not rereading your games. That would take forever. I'm also not suspecting you for the same reasons as Epi.
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Suspicious now that you told me you haven't read many of my posts. The recent thread consists of Epi and I engaged in hand-to-hand combat. You didn't ignore it if you got as far as seeing Dizzy's posts and no cats.
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The difference that I think speedchuck and Kyle are missing in my description of my own play:
Would I make it look like I am trying to accelerate a thread as a bad guy? Absolutely.
Would I actually do a good job? Nope.
Would I make it look like I am trying to accelerate a thread as a bad guy? Absolutely.
Would I actually do a good job? Nope.
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I am capable of ISOing Dizzy to see if she has posted any cats. That's a priority to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:41 pmSuspicious now that you told me you haven't read many of my posts. The recent thread consists of Epi and I engaged in hand-to-hand combat. You didn't ignore it if you got as far as seeing Dizzy's posts and no cats.
So yes I absolutely ignored it.
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Probably true.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:44 pmI am capable of ISOing Dizzy to see if she has posted any cats. That's a priority to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:41 pmSuspicious now that you told me you haven't read many of my posts. The recent thread consists of Epi and I engaged in hand-to-hand combat. You didn't ignore it if you got as far as seeing Dizzy's posts and no cats.
So yes I absolutely ignored it.
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But I will comment that you seem incredibly flustered right now, which I can see in your sudden fling of suspicion at me.
Dubious. Dizzying. Daring? Daunting.
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Y'all remember in Vocaroo 2 when dunya bullshat me on Day 1, and my as my irritation and burning rage elevated built and you could hear it in my voice?
You're witnessing the text version.
It's possible that Epignosis is the dunya of this scenario. That'd require stepping off of the horseshit accusations that have left us in this dialogue though.
You're witnessing the text version.
It's possible that Epignosis is the dunya of this scenario. That'd require stepping off of the horseshit accusations that have left us in this dialogue though.
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There's obviously plenty of evidence to the contrary, Jim. It feels ridiculous to have to say it, but I can go back a decade to see hundreds of games where someone did something on Day 1 that 'started it up' in that way. Most of them didn't contain you. At least half the people in this game have been responsible for getting things going with some daring push or pushy dare.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:39 pmThis is where your perception of this game and my perception so differ.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:33 pm the thread is bound to accelerate at some point even without Jay's interference so why wouldn't it be beneficial for jay to be the one to accelerate it? It's not about town credit or whatever it's about pragmatic choices and wearing the mask. It's about avoiding the inevitable "thread is quiet and jay hasn't thrown shit today, isn't that weird? maybe he's not as interested in finding mafia as usual for some reason"
Would the game have "accelerated" without my interference? Technically, yes, it'd have moved a bit faster than the nothing of the first 12 hours of Day 0. Would it have blown the hell up without my interference?
Nope.
Fuck nope.
Call me arrogant. Tell me I'm taking too much credit. Don't give a damn. It's what I believe and it's why I blew it up.
There are two games going with a lot of player overlap. This one was set to be a snail without some help. I helped.
So, is this really your honest opinion?
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you keep saying "clear cut bad look" that's not true at all. I used "if, then" statements and when Kyle brings out the "if, then" statements you know shit's seriousSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:12 pmI didn't feel like his response to your fake tell was authentic, he was more combative/dismissive than productive (this was what I hoped to highlight in my single-word case against him), and the development of his read on you appeared incongruous (jumping from a clear cut "bad look" to "NAI" when you explained yourself). I'm also unclear on his read on me and the way it has progressed.
I was angry. Like I was definitely angry, but my view on Jay at the time was ultimately contingent on what he did with his thrown brick. If he just left it there and let me die, then that would have been a huge red flag. Instead he into my house and swept the broken glass up and then started using the opening in shattered window to throw bricks at other players.
That so far is not alignment indicative. The thing I think may be alignment indicative is Jay's implication that throwing bricks should be alignment indicative cus he would be less likely to throw bricks as mafia. I think that insistence may be alignment indicative.