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I knew this was coming.juliets wrote:Ceres wrote:From the role description it seems that WJ does post whatever the hosts are sending him/her. The question is, if our lovely hostesses can provide an answer, is everything that WJ says true?Whiskey Jack: Wisakedjak is wise, and can help you got where you want to go. Each night the host tells him things~ he may then choose to tell the thread, or to send a message through the hosts. He is immune to the Actions of the New Gods.
I knew that response looked familiar!juliets wrote:Vesta wrote:Oh really?Apollo wrote:Wisakedjak is not one of the roles, so I expect that info comes from the hosts. For now, I am going to assume that it is accurate. I don't understand the google reference though.
Mayhaps the lovely hosts could clarify. Is what they tell WJ true?Whiskey Jack: Wisakedjak is wise, and can help you got where you want to go. Each night the host tells him things~ he may then choose to tell the thread, or to send a message through the hosts. He is immune to the Actions of the New Gods.
The civvie protector has protected noone
4.Mr Town: Thinks ALL gods are just freaks with telepathy, he can protect himself or one member of his team each night from all blockable powers
Pluto wrote:I don't seem to be on the poll today. So thank you Mr. Ibis for that!
You know what my first thought was? You so knew you that you were not going to be on the poll AND why. I can't prove that unfortunately.Prometheus was definitely who he appeared to be
There is at least one dead baddie
or maybe because its hilarious to see eros and apollo go for each other? Or maybe a super secret awesome twist?!? 
Eros wrote:I am a little intrigued with this preoccupation with Herr Hinzelmann, as though finding him is immediately paramount to success.
The kobold is currently more of a threat to the two teams than the civilians have been.
I am more interested in dismantling the teams that can whisper and scheme. Which means I may have to give up my revenge on Apollo.
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Athena wrote:Kentuky is fine by me.
When did we start trusting his word? I think I missed that. Even if he was right about Fortuna, doesn't mean that he's civ...Zeus wrote:I thought we were all onboard trusting Eros' word for now? How did this happen? The baddies are running this game and we need to start killing them as immediately.
I agree about the wanting to kill baddies part, though.
You don't say?Athena wrote:Also non-voters. I think the baddies are blending in the background and letting the rest of us do their dirty work for them.Zeus wrote:I wasn't up with a Fortuna lynch. I believed Eros. I think I'll br looking at Fortuna voters
Eros wrote:Pallas may be the goddess of wisdom, but I think that may make her the goddess of subterfuge.
I've been reading Athena, and it's amazing how after the Artemis lynch, the Athena vs. Artemis discussion waned. And clearing Athena from SK status =/= a full acquittal.
The Zeus / Athena interactions have intrigued me:
Athena wrote:Kentuky is fine by me.
When did we start trusting his word? I think I missed that. Even if he was right about Fortuna, doesn't mean that he's civ...Zeus wrote:I thought we were all onboard trusting Eros' word for now? How did this happen? The baddies are running this game and we need to start killing them as immediately.
I agree about the wanting to kill baddies part, though.You don't say?Athena wrote:Also non-voters. I think the baddies are blending in the background and letting the rest of us do their dirty work for them.Zeus wrote:I wasn't up with a Fortuna lynch. I believed Eros. I think I'll br looking at Fortuna voters
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You're meaning Poseidon right?Apollo wrote:Eros, I agree with you that finding the baddie teams would be preferable to finding Hinzelmann, but the reason I have been focusing on him is that I feel I have hard evidence to point me in his direction in the form of missed votes. I am much less certain where to look for the other baddies, so I thought I would try to kill him first and then worry about them. If you have ideas on who the baddie teams may be, I would love to hear them. I have never let go of my suspicion of Athena, since for a long time she seemed more interested in the nights than the days, so I am glad to see you looking in that direction as well.
I'm eyeing Pluto and Zeus as a result of the latest discussion. Ceres, that is a good observation about Pluto. He seemed to point it out on purpose. I dunno. It felt phony in retrospect.Ceres wrote:Here are some thoughts:
1. I'm inclined to believe that what WJ is saying is true. Why? Because there are quite a few people here who have btsc and who obviously know more than the rest, while others have nothing to work with except this truckload of confusing posts and frankly, this is very frustrating. I could say unfair, but I guess that's part of the game. So with WJ this is an attempt to balance things a bit.
2. I was going to cut Athena some slack after Fortuna flipped civ but then there was this:The civvie protector has protected noone
3. Same goes for Poseidon. I had a gut feeling about him, but nothing to work with because he is mostly absent. And there is also this:4.Mr Town: Thinks ALL gods are just freaks with telepathy, he can protect himself or one member of his team each night from all blockable powersPluto wrote:I don't seem to be on the poll today. So thank you Mr. Ibis for that!You know what my first thought was? You so knew you that you were not going to be on the poll AND why. I can't prove that unfortunately.Prometheus was definitely who he appeared to be
5.There is at least one dead baddie
if this is true and the Communication role is what Medusa was implying, then either Persephone or Atlas are baddies. Or both. If not, any of the ones already dead could be bad.
from me.Are you serious?Zeus wrote:Here's a radical idea.
We discuss who to lynch, try to come to some kind of majority decision and have only, say three, people vote for them.
Ok the rest lose their night powers but, hey...no night kill! If there is a nk then it will be obvious who the perp is.
I don't ecpect anyone to go along with this but it's an idea. No more night kills.
I'm leaning towards Phoenix at this point, because I think he has a good shot of being Hinzelmann. As far as members of the baddie teams, Mars has been worrying me a bit, but that's more of a vibe than anything else.Eros wrote:Apollo, if Athena were not on the poll, who would you vote for?
(Forgive my impetuousness- I don't want to see anymore hot women turned into trees)
What are your thoughts on:Apollo wrote:I'm leaning towards Phoenix at this point, because I think he has a good shot of being Hinzelmann. As far as members of the baddie teams, Mars has been worrying me a bit, but that's more of a vibe than anything else.Eros wrote:Apollo, if Athena were not on the poll, who would you vote for?
(Forgive my impetuousness- I don't want to see anymore hot women turned into trees)
Eros wrote:What are your thoughts on:Apollo wrote:I'm leaning towards Phoenix at this point, because I think he has a good shot of being Hinzelmann. As far as members of the baddie teams, Mars has been worrying me a bit, but that's more of a vibe than anything else.Eros wrote:Apollo, if Athena were not on the poll, who would you vote for?
(Forgive my impetuousness- I don't want to see anymore hot women turned into trees)
1. Aphrodite - A hot mess.
2. Pandora - If she keeps her box in a box, we're good.
3. Vesta - Can't touch this!
Thank you for answering for Apollo, but I was asking him, not his secretary.Vesta wrote:Eros wrote:What are your thoughts on:Apollo wrote:I'm leaning towards Phoenix at this point, because I think he has a good shot of being Hinzelmann. As far as members of the baddie teams, Mars has been worrying me a bit, but that's more of a vibe than anything else.Eros wrote:Apollo, if Athena were not on the poll, who would you vote for?
(Forgive my impetuousness- I don't want to see anymore hot women turned into trees)
1. Aphrodite - A hot mess.
2. Pandora - If she keeps her box in a box, we're good.
3. Vesta - Can't touch this!
What are your thoughts?
Eros wrote: What are your thoughts on:
1. Aphrodite - Don't trust at all. That swoop in and vote without comment thing just before being reborn was majorly pingy.
2. Pandora - No opinion yet. She has just been reborn and did basically nothing before then.
3. Vesta - Nothing has stood out to me as suspicious about her, but I would not rule her out as bad either. Are you seeing something?
Aprhodite puzzles me.Apollo wrote:Eros wrote: What are your thoughts on:
1. Aphrodite - Don't trust at all. That swoop in and vote without comment thing just before being reborn was majorly pingy.
2. Pandora - No opinion yet. She has just been reborn and did basically nothing before then.
3. Vesta - Nothing has stood out to me as suspicious about her, but I would not rule her out as bad either. Are you seeing something?
No you din'nt. Bitch please.Eros wrote:Thank you for answering for Apollo, but I was asking him, not his secretary.Vesta wrote:Eros wrote:What are your thoughts on:Apollo wrote:I'm leaning towards Phoenix at this point, because I think he has a good shot of being Hinzelmann. As far as members of the baddie teams, Mars has been worrying me a bit, but that's more of a vibe than anything else.Eros wrote:Apollo, if Athena were not on the poll, who would you vote for?
(Forgive my impetuousness- I don't want to see anymore hot women turned into trees)
1. Aphrodite - A hot mess.
2. Pandora - If she keeps her box in a box, we're good.
3. Vesta - Can't touch this!
What are your thoughts?
The question, coming at the end of the list, was intended to cover all three. I apologize for not making that more clear.Eros wrote: Why ask me if I'm seeing something about Vesta, but not about the other two?
It's a wide net, I'll grant you, but I'm suspicious of all three of them, plus Athena.Apollo wrote:The question, coming at the end of the list, was intended to cover all three. I apologize for not making that more clear.Eros wrote: Why ask me if I'm seeing something about Vesta, but not about the other two?
Ditto.Eros wrote: To be honest, if you were lynched, my beliefs would have more solidity either way.
It's true, it feels easier to pinpoint Hinzie than a baddie team, especially since we havent lynched one yet that we know of. Of course it would be better to chip away at a team and hopefully gain more leads. That said Hinzelmann can only self-protect once, so doesnt it have to be someone who voted Day 1, but missed either Day 2 and/or Day 3? Or they skipped a kill as some have said.Apollo wrote:Eros, I agree with you that finding the baddie teams would be preferable to finding Hinzelmann, but the reason I have been focusing on him is that I feel I have hard evidence to point me in his direction in the form of missed votes. I am much less certain where to look for the other baddies, so I thought I would try to kill him first and then worry about them. If you have ideas on who the baddie teams may be, I would love to hear them. I have never let go of my suspicion of Athena, since for a long time she seemed more interested in the nights than the days, so I am glad to see you looking in that direction as well.
I already have (wasn't too much there).Apollo wrote:Just reread Pandora. I don't see anything odd about her opint that Athena couldn't be Hinzelmann, but I do think she jumped onto my Phoenix case slightly too quickly for comfort.
See, this I don't get.Vesta wrote:It's true, it feels easier to pinpoint Hinzie than a baddie team, especially since we havent lynched one yet that we know of. Of course it would be better to chip away at a team and hopefully gain more leads. That said Hinzelmann can only self-protect once, so doesnt it have to be someone who voted Day 1, but missed either Day 2 and/or Day 3? Or they skipped a kill as some have said.Apollo wrote:Eros, I agree with you that finding the baddie teams would be preferable to finding Hinzelmann, but the reason I have been focusing on him is that I feel I have hard evidence to point me in his direction in the form of missed votes. I am much less certain where to look for the other baddies, so I thought I would try to kill him first and then worry about them. If you have ideas on who the baddie teams may be, I would love to hear them. I have never let go of my suspicion of Athena, since for a long time she seemed more interested in the nights than the days, so I am glad to see you looking in that direction as well.
What don't you get? Because of the votes and Night powers and lack of kills it seems easier to pinpoint Hinzlemann. Do you disagree? When you say "on a bad team," do you mean "on the trail of"? If we had a strong lead than yes lets go for it. I do not think Athena can be Hinzelmann for example based on the evidence, but I am only suspicious of her and dont have much more to go on atm.Eros wrote:See, this I don't get.Vesta wrote:It's true, it feels easier to pinpoint Hinzie than a baddie team, especially since we havent lynched one yet that we know of. Of course it would be better to chip away at a team and hopefully gain more leads. That said Hinzelmann can only self-protect once, so doesnt it have to be someone who voted Day 1, but missed either Day 2 and/or Day 3? Or they skipped a kill as some have said.Apollo wrote:Eros, I agree with you that finding the baddie teams would be preferable to finding Hinzelmann, but the reason I have been focusing on him is that I feel I have hard evidence to point me in his direction in the form of missed votes. I am much less certain where to look for the other baddies, so I thought I would try to kill him first and then worry about them. If you have ideas on who the baddie teams may be, I would love to hear them. I have never let go of my suspicion of Athena, since for a long time she seemed more interested in the nights than the days, so I am glad to see you looking in that direction as well.
Teams work together. A serial killer is basically a blind civilian with a kill. I'd much rather be on a bad team than LMS.
1. I entirely disagree on WJ. I have never seen a mafia game in which the journalist role got entirely true information. It doesn't make sense in terms of balance. I also think the hosts are tricksier than that and wouldn't always be entirely straightforward with the true information. I would be shocked to learn that every piece of information he gets is true. And I will not be taking his posts as gospel, or as a way for the hosts to tell the entire thread more information. That just doesn't make sense to me for game set up.Ceres wrote:Here are some thoughts:
1. I'm inclined to believe that what WJ is saying is true. Why? Because there are quite a few people here who have btsc and who obviously know more than the rest, while others have nothing to work with except this truckload of confusing posts and frankly, this is very frustrating. I could say unfair, but I guess that's part of the game. So with WJ this is an attempt to balance things a bit.
2. I was going to cut Athena some slack after Fortuna flipped civ but then there was this:The civvie protector has protected noone
3. Same goes for Poseidon. I had a gut feeling about him, but nothing to work with because he is mostly absent. And there is also this:4.Mr Town: Thinks ALL gods are just freaks with telepathy, he can protect himself or one member of his team each night from all blockable powersPluto wrote:I don't seem to be on the poll today. So thank you Mr. Ibis for that!You know what my first thought was? You so knew you that you were not going to be on the poll AND why. I can't prove that unfortunately.Prometheus was definitely who he appeared to be
5.There is at least one dead baddie
if this is true and the Communication role is what Medusa was implying, then either Persephone or Atlas are baddies. Or both. If not, any of the ones already dead could be bad.
Do you not agree that baddies are blending in the background?Eros wrote:Pallas may be the goddess of wisdom, but I think that may make her the goddess of subterfuge.
I've been reading Athena, and it's amazing how after the Artemis lynch, the Athena vs. Artemis discussion waned. And clearing Athena from SK status =/= a full acquittal.
The Zeus / Athena interactions have intrigued me:
Athena wrote:Kentuky is fine by me.
When did we start trusting his word? I think I missed that. Even if he was right about Fortuna, doesn't mean that he's civ...Zeus wrote:I thought we were all onboard trusting Eros' word for now? How did this happen? The baddies are running this game and we need to start killing them as immediately.
I agree about the wanting to kill baddies part, though.You don't say?Athena wrote:Also non-voters. I think the baddies are blending in the background and letting the rest of us do their dirty work for them.Zeus wrote:I wasn't up with a Fortuna lynch. I believed Eros. I think I'll br looking at Fortuna voters
I am serious. Of course. I am Zeus.Chronos wrote:Posted that last post without this on top
Are you serious?Zeus wrote:Here's a radical idea.
We discuss who to lynch, try to come to some kind of majority decision and have only, say three, people vote for them.
Ok the rest lose their night powers but, hey...no night kill! If there is a nk then it will be obvious who the perp is.
I don't ecpect anyone to go along with this but it's an idea. No more night kills.
I see many problems with this plan. Many.
I don't know how a plan to stop Nks, which btw is only a suggestion, would possibly benefit me if I was bad. I sense a bold baddie move here to remove another civ.Pluto wrote:Sorry, but I have to go ahead and vote now. I'll be gone for most of the day and probably won't be back until after the lynch is over. I'm going to go with Zeus for now because I can't tell if he's being serious or not about his "plan". But something about it smells really bad to me.
You mean allowing three players to control the lynch?Zeus wrote:I don't know how a plan to stop Nks, which btw is only a suggestion, would possibly benefit me if I was bad. I sense a bold baddie move here to remove another civ.Pluto wrote:Sorry, but I have to go ahead and vote now. I'll be gone for most of the day and probably won't be back until after the lynch is over. I'm going to go with Zeus for now because I can't tell if he's being serious or not about his "plan". But something about it smells really bad to me.
Well if you can't see the benefit. It was just a suggestion.Chronos wrote:You mean allowing three players to control the lynch?Zeus wrote:I don't know how a plan to stop Nks, which btw is only a suggestion, would possibly benefit me if I was bad. I sense a bold baddie move here to remove another civ.Pluto wrote:Sorry, but I have to go ahead and vote now. I'll be gone for most of the day and probably won't be back until after the lynch is over. I'm going to go with Zeus for now because I can't tell if he's being serious or not about his "plan". But something about it smells really bad to me.
HOSTS: Can anyone decline to use their power at night?
I can't help. I have never had btsc.Medusa wrote:I thought Zeus's point was that the three players would vote what the majority of players chose, after discussion in the thread. I can't really see a baddie coming up with this plan. But I disagree with it because I don't think our hostesses would be very pleased with people not voting.
I don't think it would be terrible if we discussed things that would help us determine who is still in the game, and who isn't. It might help us to figure out whether any of the lynched were not who we thought. For instance, I was given btsc one night by apple Johnny. Or at least that's what I thought- something happened later that made me wonder... If people can say whether they are still getting btsc as a gift from apple j, it would help me to figure some things out.
We would let someone pass on their night ability.Chronos wrote:You mean allowing three players to control the lynch?Zeus wrote:I don't know how a plan to stop Nks, which btw is only a suggestion, would possibly benefit me if I was bad. I sense a bold baddie move here to remove another civ.Pluto wrote:Sorry, but I have to go ahead and vote now. I'll be gone for most of the day and probably won't be back until after the lynch is over. I'm going to go with Zeus for now because I can't tell if he's being serious or not about his "plan". But something about it smells really bad to me.
HOSTS: Can anyone decline to use their power at night?
All I know is that I haven't been given BTSC with anyone.Medusa wrote:I thought Zeus's point was that the three players would vote what the majority of players chose, after discussion in the thread. I can't really see a baddie coming up with this plan. But I disagree with it because I don't think our hostesses would be very pleased with people not voting.
I don't think it would be terrible if we discussed things that would help us determine who is still in the game, and who isn't. It might help us to figure out whether any of the lynched were not who we thought. For instance, I was given btsc one night by apple Johnny. Or at least that's what I thought- something happened later that made me wonder... If people can say whether they are still getting btsc as a gift from apple j, it would help me to figure some things out.
I see benefit, but also see immense drawback.Zeus wrote:Well if you can't see the benefit. It was just a suggestion.Chronos wrote:You mean allowing three players to control the lynch?Zeus wrote:I don't know how a plan to stop Nks, which btw is only a suggestion, would possibly benefit me if I was bad. I sense a bold baddie move here to remove another civ.Pluto wrote:Sorry, but I have to go ahead and vote now. I'll be gone for most of the day and probably won't be back until after the lynch is over. I'm going to go with Zeus for now because I can't tell if he's being serious or not about his "plan". But something about it smells really bad to me.
HOSTS: Can anyone decline to use their power at night?
I haven't gotten BTSC with anyone.Medusa wrote:I thought Zeus's point was that the three players would vote what the majority of players chose, after discussion in the thread. I can't really see a baddie coming up with this plan. But I disagree with it because I don't think our hostesses would be very pleased with people not voting.
I don't think it would be terrible if we discussed things that would help us determine who is still in the game, and who isn't. It might help us to figure out whether any of the lynched were not who we thought. For instance, I was given btsc one night by apple Johnny. Or at least that's what I thought- something happened later that made me wonder... If people can say whether they are still getting btsc as a gift from apple j, it would help me to figure some things out.
I know you have to take into consideration what the previous Pandora said, but she/he was practically non-existent. AND, her post about Athena and hinzlemann was a QUESTION! See below...Eros wrote:Aprhodite puzzles me.Apollo wrote:Eros wrote: What are your thoughts on:
1. Aphrodite - Don't trust at all. That swoop in and vote without comment thing just before being reborn was majorly pingy.
2. Pandora - No opinion yet. She has just been reborn and did basically nothing before then.
3. Vesta - Nothing has stood out to me as suspicious about her, but I would not rule her out as bad either. Are you seeing something?
I disagree about Pandora, who made a defense of Athena not being Herr H. As though that meant something.
Why ask me if I'm seeing something about Vesta, but not about the other two?
... Athena missed the vote, but was still protected, ruling out Athena as Hinzelmann, yes?"
Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.
Apollo wrote:Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.
Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.
