That's not my claim. Every game of mine is completely different. That isn't the same thing as saying "My civilian and mafia games are the same." That's your assumption. So my question stands.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:21 pmIt's your claim, not mine. I don't think they look the same.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:19 pmIf my civilian and mafia games look the same, why do you want to lynch me? What makes this different?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:16 pmYou often claim to be a player without "meta", one whose civilian and mafia games look the same. What is it about your play in this game that you don't believe would exist in a mafia version of your play?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:13 pmThat more or less was the point of the exercise.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:58 pm
Do you suggest that your play in this thread is incompatible with a mafia Epignosis?
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If i'm going to be blanketed with scum reads can you all at least do me the courtesy of including a reason? "Your tone is phony" and "you don't care about the roof" do not qualify as reasons.
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Your play in this game reminded me so much of RED vs. BLUE that I was able to pinpoint a single moment of you spewing the same bullshit then that you spewed here. Your question is not applicable.
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No.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:27 pmYour play in this game reminded me so much of RED vs. BLUE that I was able to pinpoint a single moment of you spewing the same bullshit then that you spewed here. Your question is not applicable.
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Then die. You don't give two shits about the roof.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:28 pmNo.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:27 pmYour play in this game reminded me so much of RED vs. BLUE that I was able to pinpoint a single moment of you spewing the same bullshit then that you spewed here. Your question is not applicable.
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Why do you feel this way and what makes this game applicable to that scenario?
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That was already your decision coming in here. I had nothing to gain from this exchange.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:29 pmThen die. You don't give two shits about the roof.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:28 pmNo.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:27 pmYour play in this game reminded me so much of RED vs. BLUE that I was able to pinpoint a single moment of you spewing the same bullshit then that you spewed here. Your question is not applicable.
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You feel that way because you're mafia. You know as well as anyone that I can be foaming at the mouth about a person and then completely drop my suspicion at the drop of a hat if I find a good reason.
I opened the door and you slammed it in my face.
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No dude. If you are a civilian, I feel like you failed me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:35 pmYou feel that way because you're mafia. You know as well as anyone that I can be foaming at the mouth about a person and then completely drop my suspicion at the drop of a hat if I find a good reason.
I opened the door and you slammed it in my face.
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"You failed me"Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:37 pmNo dude. If you are a civilian, I feel like you failed me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:35 pmYou feel that way because you're mafia. You know as well as anyone that I can be foaming at the mouth about a person and then completely drop my suspicion at the drop of a hat if I find a good reason.
I opened the door and you slammed it in my face.
"It's not about ego"
You just shoved a "no" in my face when I tried to talk with you.
If you're a civilian, visit your nearest mirror.
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All you do every time we interact is show your ignorance as to how I operate.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:38 pm"You failed me"Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:37 pmNo dude. If you are a civilian, I feel like you failed me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:35 pmYou feel that way because you're mafia. You know as well as anyone that I can be foaming at the mouth about a person and then completely drop my suspicion at the drop of a hat if I find a good reason.
I opened the door and you slammed it in my face.
"It's not about ego"
You just shoved a "no" in my face when I tried to talk with you.
If you're a civilian, visit your nearest mirror.
If you lynch me tomorrow, and I am a civilian, how will you reconcile that with what you have said about me?
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I said that "You failed me," because you of ALL people should know what I was doing Day 1. You keep trying to string me up instead.
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To everyone else who cares about the roof:
I have Sloonei, JJJ, nutella, Lorab, FZ., probably Marmot and the ghost of Spacedaisy coming in here to lynch me tomorrow.
They can't all be bad.
When I am lynched, grill them. Don't let them make excuses. Grill them on a grill that does not contain both meat and dairy.
I have Sloonei, JJJ, nutella, Lorab, FZ., probably Marmot and the ghost of Spacedaisy coming in here to lynch me tomorrow.
They can't all be bad.
When I am lynched, grill them. Don't let them make excuses. Grill them on a grill that does not contain both meat and dairy.
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This has felt like a more volatile and hostile atmosphere than, for instance, Moutain Mafia or Seinfeld. I haven't had the same sense of thread unity as in those games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:31 pmWhy do you feel this way and what makes this game applicable to that scenario?
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I've decided Epignosis is right. I don't give a shit about his roof.
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I agree with this more than anything sl One I has said all gameSloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:59 pmThis has felt like a more volatile and hostile atmosphere than, for instance, Moutain Mafia or Seinfeld. I haven't had the same sense of thread unity as in those games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:31 pmWhy do you feel this way and what makes this game applicable to that scenario?
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I'm bad at remembering. Can you remind me what you were doing Day 1? Two games going on, hard for a guy like me to keep perfect track.
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Thanks sp Eed Chuckspeedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:00 pmI agree with this more than anything sl One I has said all gameSloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:59 pmThis has felt like a more volatile and hostile atmosphere than, for instance, Moutain Mafia or Seinfeld. I haven't had the same sense of thread unity as in those games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:31 pmWhy do you feel this way and what makes this game applicable to that scenario?
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I am not going to argue that I was not being stubborn about Kyle yesterday. If that's the way I came across, that's the way I came across. But I can honestly say that I was not pursuing him with as much conviction as I'm being accused of. He was my top suspect for much of the day, but he was a widespread town read. I had thoughts about him that were not being discussed anywhere, so I laid them out in one exceedingly long post. After that, it felt like a wave of people jumped down my throat for spinning some bogus case against Kyle, but the only one of them who I felt actually engaged critically with that case was Kyle himself. Others were just piling on me while offering zero discussion on the case I was trying to discuss. It was immensely frustrating, and if I grew stubborn or irritated, it was because of this and nothing else. I wanted to talk about my primary suspect but no one would engage me and instead I was getting sand thrown in my eyes for it. My mind is by no means made up on Kyle, nor has it ever been at any point in this game. If anything, I feel better about him after the events of last night. But I still have doubts about him that have not been resolved. I'd like it if he could at least be in consideration to be lynched tomorrow. If you're going to tunnel on me, at least let the person I'm being accused of tunneling also be discussed.
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Night 1 - Sabbath Prayer
So the tailor was not our enemy. Still, we knew he was out there, and it was our duty to find this fiend before any more harm came to our village. However, it was also about to be the Sabbath, so we decided that the search could wait awhile.
It seems the killer thought so as well. He's very considerate, this killer. He knows his Leviticus.
It was a quiet and peaceful evening, let us hope the first of many.
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So the tailor was not our enemy. Still, we knew he was out there, and it was our duty to find this fiend before any more harm came to our village. However, it was also about to be the Sabbath, so we decided that the search could wait awhile.
It seems the killer thought so as well. He's very considerate, this killer. He knows his Leviticus.
It was a quiet and peaceful evening, let us hope the first of many.
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The morning report from Avram:
What up, meshugenahs? It's Avram here to lay down some scripture for y'all. Day 1 was rough and tensions were high. It was tragic to lose Daisy, but things could have turned out worse. Thankfully there's a lot to pull out in terms of content from that day. So let's begin!
The last minute exodus away from Sloonei and Epignosis in the poll was troubling. It could in part be that players tend to be averse to lynching vocal leaders on Day 1, but it would be neglectful to ignore the possibility that the Devil's hands were active in this movement. If you're asking me, I'd prefer we focus on Epignosis of the two.
Why Epignosis? Because his case stinks. There's no noticeable progression. There's no discernible reason at all from this bookkeeper's perspective.
It's not all wrath and fury though. This Israelite thinks Macdougall is alright. His night work has been a godsend, and it should receive it's due focus during this upcoming day phase.
Nutella might not be kosher. Us Jews got to stick together, and I'm not so sure she's doing that. The conversation needs to be open and flowing, but I don't feel that coming from her.
That's all I've got for you this night, folks. Be thorough and active, and if you're with us, be accepting of others. These times are tough, but the promised land is ahead of us.
What up, meshugenahs? It's Avram here to lay down some scripture for y'all. Day 1 was rough and tensions were high. It was tragic to lose Daisy, but things could have turned out worse. Thankfully there's a lot to pull out in terms of content from that day. So let's begin!
The last minute exodus away from Sloonei and Epignosis in the poll was troubling. It could in part be that players tend to be averse to lynching vocal leaders on Day 1, but it would be neglectful to ignore the possibility that the Devil's hands were active in this movement. If you're asking me, I'd prefer we focus on Epignosis of the two.
Why Epignosis? Because his case stinks. There's no noticeable progression. There's no discernible reason at all from this bookkeeper's perspective.
It's not all wrath and fury though. This Israelite thinks Macdougall is alright. His night work has been a godsend, and it should receive it's due focus during this upcoming day phase.
Nutella might not be kosher. Us Jews got to stick together, and I'm not so sure she's doing that. The conversation needs to be open and flowing, but I don't feel that coming from her.
That's all I've got for you this night, folks. Be thorough and active, and if you're with us, be accepting of others. These times are tough, but the promised land is ahead of us.
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welcome back, daisy! I'm happy to have you return, but also dreading the vote you're about to put on me.
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Excellent result! And the night went well too!
By that I mean welcome Spacedaisy.
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Shabbat shalom, bitches.
So, I indeed fell asleep last night. And had one of those days at work with way too many meetings and having to write a sermon in the midst of it...complete with a trip to the doctor who put me on antibiotics for a sinus infection. Still finishing reading the last lynch and the overnight chat.
The wagon on daisy seemed to happen pretty quickly, which doesn't look good. Still have an eye on Epi. Still reading up on a really busy end of day, so unsure if anything changed.
I'm in Philly for tomorrow for the women's march--won't be on much during the day, but late afternoon and evening I should be all full of posting.
Will try to finish reading up tonight. We'll see how long I am able to stay awake.
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So, I indeed fell asleep last night. And had one of those days at work with way too many meetings and having to write a sermon in the midst of it...complete with a trip to the doctor who put me on antibiotics for a sinus infection. Still finishing reading the last lynch and the overnight chat.
The wagon on daisy seemed to happen pretty quickly, which doesn't look good. Still have an eye on Epi. Still reading up on a really busy end of day, so unsure if anything changed.
I'm in Philly for tomorrow for the women's march--won't be on much during the day, but late afternoon and evening I should be all full of posting.
Will try to finish reading up tonight. We'll see how long I am able to stay awake.
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They say hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...
I did a catch up today and I'm going to drop a stream of consciousness style post on you all. But I had better add some spoiler tags first otherwise this is going to be an insane wall o' text.
I did a catch up today and I'm going to drop a stream of consciousness style post on you all. But I had better add some spoiler tags first otherwise this is going to be an insane wall o' text.
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I agree 100% with what Epi said here, and later I saw Jay calling this into question. I was reading Kyle’s posts and hearing them literally in his voice. We chat on discord, he played the Vocaroo sequel. Hearing it in his voice, it seemed clear to me that this was sincerity. If I am wrong props to Kyle, but seriously I have trusted him since he first started posting because frankly he is the most sincere sounding player I have heard in this game so far.
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This ^ is not a baddie mind set. If Epi is bad why this?
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Sloonei is not being a civ, he is being a movie reviewer. He basically started this game by giving one word interpretations of what he thought the posts sounded like. He did not offer content, Kyle was 100% in that, but I feel like he has been bullied into backing off that early assertion he made in response to Sloonei’s handling of him. Tell me how these posts added or assisted anyone in anyway in their scum hunt?
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Good Lord I am on page 13 and people were piling their votes on Kyle with no real case having been presented on him. This lynch… I can’t even begin to express my utter astonishment at the bs that went down in here yesterday!
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I like this post. I like this guy.
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The irony in this post, I can't even...
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Another excellent post by Mac. I have clearly not played enough games with Mac. I am sad however that our reads on people are so different given what I’ve seen so far in my catch up. We’ll see how things develop in the future.
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Dude, I feel this way all the time too.
Ok, I came to Sloonei’s “case” against Kyle. Here is my big beef with this whole situation. Actually you know what, I think I have a couple of them. First of all, you went through and assigned emotional motivation to his posts. That is pretty much all you did. You read through and tried to say I think this reflects such and such emotion. But even if you were right, do you really think civs don’t get indignant? Do you think they don’t find accusations against them incredulously? It was thoroughly unhelpful commentary to begin with. So right from the start I have a problem with you. Then you followed it up with these picked apart explanations, but what you fail to take into consideration is the fact that the game being referenced was a bad experience for Kyle, and one he has in the past as a civ also said, dude this is so not representative of my normal play. So anyone leveling a charge against him based on that game would have immediately gotten the emotional backlash of a bad experience. Some of your other points are self defeating too. By that I mean, you say he didn’t question why, but later you quote him literally trying to question what this accusation is based on and cite it as an example of him being bad. Kyle has in my opinion adequately explained all of his actions on Day 1. Your case was self contained and contradicted itself. I have a real problem with that. Lastly you and Long Con both picked apart how he phrased things as indicators of a slip basically. I think this is a stretch at best. Baddies are cautious in how they phrase things, civs are not. Kyle was posting from a frustrated place and trying to figure out how serious Jay actually was. You look super opportunistic here. Not a good look.
And now we come to the beginning of my lynch. Unfortunately I can’t tell who I was tied with that Epi decided to break to my detriment? Can anyone please help me out with that?
One thing of note, I was only the second person to vote for Sloonei. When I voted Epi had 4 and I think someone else had 3. I was far from suddenly coming in and drive by voting someone into danger. Additionally, Kyle implied before my vote that he wasn’t likely to leave it there. So everyone who suddenly changed your votes, I would like some explanations. All I am seeing is “I changed my vote.” “Yuck.” And other such one line bs. So let’s see some people owning their mistakes, I want to know why, because no one seemed to want to ask that question while it was happening.
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Yeah, Mac is confirmed town in my mind at this point right here. He was pulling for a lynch of someone other than the leaders and saw the sudden train on me for what it was and called it out. Well done Mac. I think you were the only one.
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Please clarify, you never liked what thing?
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So which way was it, was I drive by voting or was I trying to get you lynched? :roll eyes:
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Mac bringing it again.
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And how do you think it looked now that you know Daisy 1.0 was good?
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And then Speedchuck posts something like this and I think he must be good. You are so problematic for me man. I can’t decide where to put you on my rainbow.
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Um wut? "We already decided this" is a really bad way to go into the next day, sets a nice little lynch train right up.
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I thought Kyle looked bad in his early posts. I will make no apology for that. I could have been wrong. I might have been wrong. Having experienced frustration on par with what he exhibited, I'm feeling it's likely that I was wrong. But it looked to me on Day 0 like he was arguing against his own conscience. It was awful to make a case and get absolutely no critical response to it other than "you're bad." Even if I was 100% wrong, which absolutely might be the case and was always a possibility in mind, I just wanted to fucking talk about my suspect. I was never, on any planet, trying to bury or bully Kyle.
I appreciate your post, Daisy. You're wrong about me.
Also I told FZ "not to catch up" because I'm actively campaigning against catching up. It's in my signature and I talked about it at length after Vocaroo. Catching up when you're far behind in the thread is a waste of time.
I appreciate your post, Daisy. You're wrong about me.
Also I told FZ "not to catch up" because I'm actively campaigning against catching up. It's in my signature and I talked about it at length after Vocaroo. Catching up when you're far behind in the thread is a waste of time.
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I have more thoughts Sloonei, those are just my thoughts in the moment I did my catch up, as I was reading. I have more coherent thoughts that I was gathering too, but I want to see reactions to these first before I put those out there. It could be telling to some of my suspicions that have been percolating. And I have some people I came away with a feeling I need to ISO them. All that to say, I'm sorry if I upset you. Also, don't take my shit posting after my lynch too seriously, I was worked up, but I was posting like a crazy person because I honestly believed (and still do) that there are some questions the civs should be asking about the way that played out. I was trying to get people talking about it. But I still have you up there on my suspect list, so don't get too comfy either.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:38 am I thought Kyle looked bad in his early posts. I will make no apology for that. I could have been wrong. I might have been wrong. Having experienced frustration on par with what he exhibited, I'm feeling it's likely that I was wrong. But it looked to me on Day 0 like he was arguing against his own conscience. It was awful to make a case and get absolutely no critical response to it other than "you're bad." Even if I was 100% wrong, which absolutely might be the case and was always a possibility in mind, I just wanted to fucking talk about my suspect. I was never, on any planet, trying to bury or bully Kyle.
I appreciate your post, Daisy. You're wrong about me.
Also I told FZ "not to catch up" because I'm actively campaigning against catching up. It's in my signature and I talked about it at length after Vocaroo. Catching up when you're far behind in the thread is a waste of time.
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Let's talk about this. I'm not fully sure how to read this chart, and ideally Mac should be the one leading this discussion, but I don't want to ignore the good work he put in last night. There's a lot of red cells attached to Jay's and Kyle's names in here, and that's something to note. One is my strongest town read, the other has been my most prominent scum read. I'm curious about the two "impossible" pairings: Speedchuck/Kyle and Epi/nutella. The latter features two players I am at least mildly suspicious of.
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"Has to be one of you two"Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:27 amPlease clarify, you never liked what thing?Spoiler: show
It's like Mac is setting an ultimatum between two players here.
Doesn't matter much because he clarified after.
Sorry I'm so troublesome.
and yay! no one died!
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You've not upset me. No individual person has upset me, and I don't like to express too much emotion in games. It was just the overall atmosphere of the thread that irritated me last night. It felt unproductive. I want game threads to be productive. I could have done a better job myself.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:48 amI have more thoughts Sloonei, those are just my thoughts in the moment I did my catch up, as I was reading. I have more coherent thoughts that I was gathering too, but I want to see reactions to these first before I put those out there. It could be telling to some of my suspicions that have been percolating. And I have some people I came away with a feeling I need to ISO them. All that to say, I'm sorry if I upset you. Also, don't take my shit posting after my lynch too seriously, I was worked up, but I was posting like a crazy person because I honestly believed (and still do) that there are some questions the civs should be asking about the way that played out. I was trying to get people talking about it. But I still have you up there on my suspect list, so don't get too comfy either.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:38 am I thought Kyle looked bad in his early posts. I will make no apology for that. I could have been wrong. I might have been wrong. Having experienced frustration on par with what he exhibited, I'm feeling it's likely that I was wrong. But it looked to me on Day 0 like he was arguing against his own conscience. It was awful to make a case and get absolutely no critical response to it other than "you're bad." Even if I was 100% wrong, which absolutely might be the case and was always a possibility in mind, I just wanted to fucking talk about my suspect. I was never, on any planet, trying to bury or bully Kyle.
I appreciate your post, Daisy. You're wrong about me.
Also I told FZ "not to catch up" because I'm actively campaigning against catching up. It's in my signature and I talked about it at length after Vocaroo. Catching up when you're far behind in the thread is a waste of time.
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That is one thing you and I can agree on, but more on that when I post the coherent version of my thoughts later. First let's hear some conversation in here and it better be more than conversation about freaking Kyle or people just saying Epi is a foregone conclusion. That's just about as lame as my lynch was. Even if he is lynched, don't sit there and twiddle your thumbs and say, aren't we all just voting Epi?
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Nice night. no kill is good news and space daisy replacing back in is also good news.
Yesterday was kind of a cluster-fuck, but today is a new day. Let's try to do a little better this time. No one died and Space Daisy's replaced back in, so we can treat this like a second chance.
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] I'm sorry for my part in your original iteration's death I got cold feet about lynching Sloonei and changed my vote last minute, although I guess 2-3 other players did the same thing at the same time which is still pretty weird.
I'm not gonna crop your question out of that post cus it looks like a formatting nightmare, but the reason I singled you out for that question is cus at that time first-you hadn't commented on me or any of those shenanigans. You've always been really quick to recognize my civilian game since... idk... probably firefly? Your read on me would a potential avenue to me having a read on you, had you not died.
Yesterday was kind of a cluster-fuck, but today is a new day. Let's try to do a little better this time. No one died and Space Daisy's replaced back in, so we can treat this like a second chance.
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] I'm sorry for my part in your original iteration's death I got cold feet about lynching Sloonei and changed my vote last minute, although I guess 2-3 other players did the same thing at the same time which is still pretty weird.
I'm not gonna crop your question out of that post cus it looks like a formatting nightmare, but the reason I singled you out for that question is cus at that time first-you hadn't commented on me or any of those shenanigans. You've always been really quick to recognize my civilian game since... idk... probably firefly? Your read on me would a potential avenue to me having a read on you, had you not died.
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I have to work early tomorrow, but I will be checking in on my phone as frequently as possible. Don't lynch me again while I'm working or I might start taking it personal.
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I agree - I have made the difficult decision in both these games already, to allow myself to skip pages to be present for 'current' thread progression over catching up. It's not ideal, but I have to work with what time I have.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:38 am I thought Kyle looked bad in his early posts. I will make no apology for that. I could have been wrong. I might have been wrong. Having experienced frustration on par with what he exhibited, I'm feeling it's likely that I was wrong. But it looked to me on Day 0 like he was arguing against his own conscience. It was awful to make a case and get absolutely no critical response to it other than "you're bad." Even if I was 100% wrong, which absolutely might be the case and was always a possibility in mind, I just wanted to fucking talk about my suspect. I was never, on any planet, trying to bury or bully Kyle.
I appreciate your post, Daisy. You're wrong about me.
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Since you've had a 24-hour period of just being able to ruminate without posting, I have a request of you. I'm going to put some pairings below. Make the assumption, in each pairing, that one is scum and one is not. Then tell me which one you'd shoot.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:56 am That is one thing you and I can agree on, but more on that when I post the coherent version of my thoughts later. First let's hear some conversation in here and it better be more than conversation about freaking Kyle or people just saying Epi is a foregone conclusion. That's just about as lame as my lynch was. Even if he is lynched, don't sit there and twiddle your thumbs and say, aren't we all just voting Epi?
Epi vs Jay
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OH my God BR has gone to bed, but I KNOW she'd be absolutely thrilled to see you bring Firefly up.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:56 am Nice night. no kill is good news and space daisy replacing back in is also good news.
Yesterday was kind of a cluster-fuck, but today is a new day. Let's try to do a little better this time. No one died and Space Daisy's replaced back in, so we can treat this like a second chance.
@Spacedaisy I'm sorry for my part in your original iteration's death I got cold feet about lynching Sloonei and changed my vote last minute, although I guess 2-3 other players did the same thing at the same time which is still pretty weird.
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Actually, @everyone. GTH, say one of JJJ and sloonei are scum. Which one?
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I don't buy any part of Epi's case against me from yesterday. This is complicated by the fact that Epignosis is Epignosis, and he'll ride a bullshit argument as town if he feels like it. But I'm struggling to identify the townie motivation behind this case. He started by stating that he "has never known anyone to pour that much effort into a Day 1 case as that" in reference to my post on Kyle. I don't know what exactly he meant to imply here (despite asking about it more than once), but at the very least it's clear that he observes effort on my part. But then shortly after he drops this bullshit on me:
Prior to this, he gave me an even more bullshit suspicion:
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If this means anything, I interpret it as an accusation that I don't care about this game. Despite putting in exceptional effort on a Day 1 case.
Prior to this, he gave me an even more bullshit suspicion:
I had a civilian read on Epignosis. Other people did not have a civilian read on Epignosis. I sought to engage in a conversation with these people about Epignosis. Epignosis told me to "fuck out of here" for this. Then a couple hours later, he said this about me:
Fuck outta here. I tried to talk about you and you did nothing except pound me into the ground for it.
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So all of this comes without having actually touched my most substantive post, the post in which my read of Kyle is fully detailed. This is what it looks like to bury a player. I presented a case and tried to talk about it. Epi just tried to shut me down.We both played Vocaroo Too! Mafia, and I expressed why I think Kylemii is civilian. Sloonei, to my knowledge, has not commented on Kylemii's tone were he to read his posts in Kylemii's voice.* Furthermore, Sloonei quickly called me good. Should he have done so? And on what basis?
*Granted, I have not read Sloonei's novel on Kylemii, which I will do so shortly.
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Give me reads on every player not named Kyle or Epignosis.
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Epispeedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:00 amSince you've had a 24-hour period of just being able to ruminate without posting, I have a request of you. I'm going to put some pairings below. Make the assumption, in each pairing, that one is scum and one is not. Then tell me which one you'd shoot.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:56 am That is one thing you and I can agree on, but more on that when I post the coherent version of my thoughts later. First let's hear some conversation in here and it better be more than conversation about freaking Kyle or people just saying Epi is a foregone conclusion. That's just about as lame as my lynch was. Even if he is lynched, don't sit there and twiddle your thumbs and say, aren't we all just voting Epi?
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Oh hey no death, and welcome back daisy!! And a nice message from Avram too, gonna reread that
God you guys I'm so torn. Half of me really wants to stick to my guns and lynch Epi but the other half really wants to stick to my other guns and lynch sloonei, and that second half sides with Epi on the notion of Sloonei/Jay w/w. I'm afraid of making the wrong choice... but it's still early game so I guess if I pick the wrong one first I'll go for the other next... hmmm
Sloonei, but they are far from mutually exclusive. If Sloonei is lynched and flips bad I would lynch Jay next. I think they are likely teammates.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:09 am Actually, @everyone. GTH, say one of JJJ and sloonei are scum. Which one?
God you guys I'm so torn. Half of me really wants to stick to my guns and lynch Epi but the other half really wants to stick to my other guns and lynch sloonei, and that second half sides with Epi on the notion of Sloonei/Jay w/w. I'm afraid of making the wrong choice... but it's still early game so I guess if I pick the wrong one first I'll go for the other next... hmmm
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Also, Daisy, I have a few disagreements with your mammoth post that I cannot adequately cover on my phone. Stand by.
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y thoSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:17 amEpispeedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:00 amSince you've had a 24-hour period of just being able to ruminate without posting, I have a request of you. I'm going to put some pairings below. Make the assumption, in each pairing, that one is scum and one is not. Then tell me which one you'd shoot.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:56 am That is one thing you and I can agree on, but more on that when I post the coherent version of my thoughts later. First let's hear some conversation in here and it better be more than conversation about freaking Kyle or people just saying Epi is a foregone conclusion. That's just about as lame as my lynch was. Even if he is lynched, don't sit there and twiddle your thumbs and say, aren't we all just voting Epi?
Epi vs Jay
Epi vs Sloonei
Dizzy vs FZ
LoRab vs Marmot
Feel free to throw one out if you have no thoughts on it, or throw another pair in.
Epi
Dizzy
LoRab
I'd have picked FZ and Marmot for sure (well Lorab vs Marmot is less sure but. guise dizzy is fosho town yo)
tell me about those two picks
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