Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[DharmaHelper]

It is obvious to me that the mafia have already been caught, the only question is which of the people that have been caught are mafia?

[speedchuck]

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

Yeah, DDL pointed it out as TMI. Nutella doubled down, and then when I questioned to see how sure she was (implicitly sussing out some kind of civ connection), she backed off inconsistently.

Is weird.

[speedchuck]

It is obvious to me that the mafia have already been caught, the only question is which of the people that have been caught are mafia?

You and nutella.

[S~V~S]

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

Yeah, DDL pointed it out as TMI. Nutella doubled down, and then when I questioned to see how sure she was (implicitly sussing out some kind of civ connection), she backed off inconsistently.

Is weird.

I remember a game played on STV Forum, I just watched it because I was banned, one of the civvies took some suspicion, and the other civs piled on her, and one of the baddies defended her hard and heroically. When she was lynched, he was like king civ. I don't remember how it ended, that game was the one that crashed and burned STV, but the point was, baddies being over vigorous in the defense of a civ is not new. It always gets my eye when I see someone vigorously defending someone as a civ, especially when they were somewhat distancing towards them as Nutella was early in this game, when the RR was under discussion. There could be civ BTSC partners, but she dragged Epi into it by saying *HE* was the one who knew Sprit was a civ.

This does not look like a post by a civvie BTSC partner,

What did i miss huh?
I did not submit a poem
I mean haiku. oops.

then sorry2say but you are vulnerable my dude

Some of my feels, after reading the first part of this thread are still the same, I feel good about the same two people I felt good about before, otherwise, I am all over the place.

[Long Con]

Here his probability of being Mafia is the same as anyone elses.

yeah I mean I didn't mean it really literally/mathematically, since we can't really know who didn't send in a haiku (so far we just know sprityo didn't, but like... his individual probability of being mafia is the same as anyone else's)

And here (two posts in a row since she didn't quote me, she now thinks his posts are civ.

nah man I just think it's pretty unlikely. if you think sprityo is bad go for it, but I don't think he is, and I don't think anyone else is vulnerable

You don't think he is because of the odds, or because of his posts? What do you think of his posts?

his posts look civ to me

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

Good call on the reread. Are we allowed to save quotes from here for the main thread?

[nutella]

Here his probability of being Mafia is the same as anyone elses.

yeah I mean I didn't mean it really literally/mathematically, since we can't really know who didn't send in a haiku (so far we just know sprityo didn't, but like... his individual probability of being mafia is the same as anyone else's)

And here (two posts in a row since she didn't quote me, she now thinks his posts are civ.

nah man I just think it's pretty unlikely. if you think sprityo is bad go for it, but I don't think he is, and I don't think anyone else is vulnerable

You don't think he is because of the odds, or because of his posts? What do you think of his posts?

his posts look civ to me

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

I thought he was civ and Epi's reasoning made me think it more.

[Golden]

Are we allowed to save quotes from here for the main thread?

You may only quote in any thread what you have visible access to at the time of posting. If your concern is locked threads where you can't push 'quote', or that you will later be able to post in a different thread, then I can't confirm or deny if such a thing could or will happen, but I have no issue with you saving quotes for an eventuality.

[nutella]

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

Yeah, DDL pointed it out as TMI. Nutella doubled down, and then when I questioned to see how sure she was (implicitly sussing out some kind of civ connection), she backed off inconsistently.

Is weird.

I didn't mean to give the impression that I have some kind of absolute reason to know he's civ, sorry to be misleading. I just think it is very, very, very unlikely that he is bad. Look at the reasons Epi has given.

[Dom]

I'd rather lynch DDL or Dom, but I'm okay with a Quin lynch.

literally what the fresh hell is this post and why hasn't speedchuck cared to explain the shit out of it?

What's wrong with it?

compare this with your bullshit rainbow and i am at a loss as to any of your rationale.

D1 + going along with Epi to make a lynch happen + Not wanting Sprit to die because of some thing that were said after the rainbow + EOD craziness and a deadline that snuck up on me + nobody being around but Epi + Me wanting to do something with my vote = THAT

I do not see the problem

Let's elaborate on your reads....

I'd rather lynch DDL or Dom, but I'm okay with a Quin lynch.

literally what the fresh hell is this post and why hasn't speedchuck cared to explain the shit out of it?

What's wrong with it?

compare this with your bullshit rainbow and i am at a loss as to any of your rationale.

D1 + going along with Epi to make a lynch happen + Not wanting Sprit to die because of some thing that were said after the rainbow + EOD craziness and a deadline that snuck up on me + nobody being around but Epi + Me wanting to do something with my vote = THAT

I do not see the problem

"Don't look at me, I just went along with Epignosis!"

That's not what I said.

NARRATOR: He had pretty much said that very thing.

You can hate self-calls to meta if you want, but the fact of the matter is: if I were scum, I'd have an inkling of an idea what I'm doing.

rip u

[nutella]

also, like, yeah my post about Epi not wanting him to get lynched obviously meant "because sprityo is a civilian in Epi's view" but I felt that went without saying and since I also strongly believe it I worded it that way

[S~V~S]

I actually feel better about Sprit overall, but worse about Nutella. She just slipped away from DDL's point, and put a surety as an opinion. Who knows who is civ? Baddies. BUT we don't know how many baddies there are, so I would assume they do not either unless it is one very big bad team, then they might know.

I don't know how I feel about this. I am going to reread this thread in case it goes away with the night post.

Yeah, DDL pointed it out as TMI. Nutella doubled down, and then when I questioned to see how sure she was (implicitly sussing out some kind of civ connection), she backed off inconsistently.

Is weird.

I didn't mean to give the impression that I have some kind of absolute reason to know he's civ, sorry to be misleading. I just think it is very, very, very unlikely that he is bad. Look at the reasons Epi has given.

I would rather hear the reasons you have given. I thinks Epis reasoning is based on a false premise, although I am feeling better about Sprit at this point.

It's Sprits fan club I am worried about.

[DharmaHelper]

It is obvious to me that the mafia have already been caught, the only question is which of the people that have been caught are mafia?

You and nutella.

[DharmaHelper]

I hope the other tribe had just as much fun Day 1

[speedchuck]

I hope they lynched someone. Pikachu 4 lyfe.

[Golden]

As night fell, everyone fell in to different tasks. Some people found firewood, some went looking for fresh water, others started building the shelter. Then there were those who believed that they might be being pitted against each other in some cosmic game of Survivor - they went hunting for immunity idols.

It wasn’t hard at all for an agreement to be made in the shadows, and then for the deal to be carried out. There was no doubt that the Citadel Council would reward them handsomely for this - it was a first test of their reanimating technology, whereby a body would survive death, but be forever changed in to someone... and possibly something... else.

A muffled shot probably rang out in the forest, but no one was there to hear it.

Night 1 has ended. Nijuukyugou has died. She was:

97: Electron (Elemental). You have BTSC with Proton. You will be sent a chat link for BTSC and must log in as "Electron". Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Air, Earth, Wind or Fire) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. While Proton is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Air, Earth, Wind or Fire. When you and Proton are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Proton's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same pair of elements until each pair has been selected. If Proton dies before you, you may not select the same element on consecutive nights. You may not select the same target on consecutive nights. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

It is now day 2. You have 48 hours to figure out who is doing the Citadel Council’s bidding.

[Quin]

As night fell, everyone fell in to different tasks. Some people found firewood, some went looking for fresh water, others started building the shelter. Then there were those who believed that they might be being pitted against each other in some cosmic game of Survivor - they went hunting for immunity idols.

It wasn’t hard at all for an agreement to be made in the shadows, and then for the deal to be carried out. There was no doubt that the Citadel Council would reward them handsomely for this - it was a first test of their reanimating technology, whereby a body would survive death, but be forever changed in to someone... and possibly something... else.

A muffled shot probably rang out in the forest, but no one was there to hear it.

Night 1 has ended. Nijuukyugou has died. She was:

97: Electron (Elemental). You have BTSC with Proton. You will be sent a chat link for BTSC and must log in as "Electron". Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Air, Earth, Wind or Fire) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. While Proton is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Air, Earth, Wind or Fire. When you and Proton are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Proton's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same pair of elements until each pair has been selected. If Proton dies before you, you may not select the same element on consecutive nights. You may not select the same target on consecutive nights. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

It is now day 2. You have 48 hours to figure out who is doing the Citadel Council’s bidding.

so how do we know there was a muffled shot in the forest?

[DharmaHelper]

Aha! This confirms and validates everything I said.

[Quin]

hey dudes long con isnt on the poll

[juliets]

From Cecil:

Good Morning Syndicate. Everyone's favorite voice on the radio here to congratulate you on a successful Day One. I have high hopes to continue bringing you broadcasts to our little tribe in the coming days. That is, figuring I myself am alive by the end of tonight. Lots of content coming out of a small cluster of people, some of you slackers better pick it up. This is the game of all games afterall. Im looking to you Dom, DragonDLuffy, Quin, ColonialBob, nutella, and sprityo. A few of you more so. It is in my opinion that with Twenty Three players, and us owning eleven. We should have about two mafia members among us. As the new Day comes upon us, let us remember to not becoming paranoid and hunt the players that are helping us. This is Cecil signing off for the night.

[Quin]

wow cecil can kiss my ass

[sprityo]

Aha! This confirms and validates everything I said.

Elaborate?

[sprityo]

hey dudes long con isnt on the poll

Oh? How intriguing.

[DharmaHelper]

Aha! This confirms and validates everything I said.

Elaborate?

T'was a jape.

[Epignosis]

Question for the field:

What did i miss huh?
I did not submit a poem
I mean haiku. oops.

If you are mafia, is your first move to admit that you did not submit a poem?

+1 Brownie points for Epi

I am so good at this.

[Epignosis]

Some suspicious shit WAS going on. You guys voted for Quin out of the blue nowhere with like *maybe* two minutes left on the poll. You don't find that suspicious?

In this site? In 2018? No I don't. I'll find it suspicious when people don't change their votes like madmen in the last 15 minutes.

Much has changed.

[S~V~S]

So no death in here
How many syllables are
in Nijus full name?

I will not need more
than seventeen syllables
to give my gut reads

Good thing I am not
really a great case builder
I do talk too much

[sprityo]

Aha! This confirms and validates everything I said.

Elaborate?

T'was a jape.

I dont like Grapes

[colonialbob]

wow cecil can kiss my ass

[speedchuck]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

[sprityo]

So no death in here
How many syllables are
in Nijus full name?

I will not need more
than seventeen syllables
to give my gut reads

Good thing I am not
really a great case builder
I do talk too much

Well that solves my next question of who got cursed

Did we come to the conclusion that Refrigerator was a mafia role or no?

[speedchuck]

So no death in here
How many syllables are
in Nijus full name?

I will not need more
than seventeen syllables
to give my gut reads

Good thing I am not
really a great case builder
I do talk too much

Well that solves my next question of who got cursed

Did we come to the conclusion that Refrigerator was a mafia role or no?

Looks pro-town to me.

[DharmaHelper]

I voted for Speedchuck

I hope that's searchable enough for you.

[Quin]

So no death in here
How many syllables are
in Nijus full name?

I will not need more
than seventeen syllables
to give my gut reads

Good thing I am not
really a great case builder
I do talk too much

Well that solves my next question of who got cursed

Did we come to the conclusion that Refrigerator was a mafia role or no?

Looks pro-town to me.

I agree with the way Epi put it.

[Quin]

I voted for Speedchuck

I hope that's searchable enough for you.

AUBERGINE

[colonialbob]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

How do you know this?

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

[Epignosis]

wow cecil can kiss my ass

Get your own line.

[speedchuck]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

How do you know this?

I am making assumptions.

Describe to me what their tribe is doing if not lynching anyone.

[colonialbob]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

How do you know this?

I am making assumptions.

Describe to me what their tribe is doing if not lynching anyone.

That doesn't read like an assumption to me.

[sprityo]

wow cecil can kiss my ass

Get your own line.

Game of Champions 2017: "Wow, [subject] can kiss my ass"

[Quin]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

How do you know this?

I am making assumptions.

Describe to me what their tribe is doing if not lynching anyone.

yeah but how is that relevant to the mafia spread

[DharmaHelper]

Speedchuck votes for Dom
Out of the Blue Nowhere
Totally a Civ.

[S~V~S]

I think a civvie
No votes for me count today
it's lynch protection

It would not be a
public power for a bad
role, too obvious

linki at C-Bob
I do so like that question
how would he know that?

[speedchuck]

WOULD NOT LYNCH D2
sprityo
Epignosis
nutella
Quin

WOULD LYNCH D2
Dragon D Luffy
colonialbob
Dharmahelper
dom

It's as simple as that, folks.

LC is off the poll, SVS is out so long as she haikus, and I'm not lynching myself. Here's my line in the freaking sand, boys.

[S~V~S]

Where is Vaseline
to tell Chuck how voting for
low posters is bad?

[DharmaHelper]

WOULD NOT LYNCH D2
sprityo
Epignosis
nutella
Quin

WOULD LYNCH D2
Dragon D Luffy
colonialbob
Dharmahelper
dom

It's as simple as that, folks.

LC is off the poll, SVS is out so long as she haikus, and I'm not lynching myself. Here's my line in the freaking sand, boys.

[speedchuck]

Maybe the mafia is spread across tribes and the only nightkill was over there?

But no, they had a lynch as well.

I am thinking there was a failed nightkill on Pikaside.

How do you know this?

I am making assumptions.

Describe to me what their tribe is doing if not lynching anyone.

That doesn't read like an assumption to me.

It's less assumption and more "I'm not a moron when it comes to game balance, so this is true."

[mention]Quin[/mention] It's not. I was considering the possibility that mafia had only one nightkill, between the mafia spread. The spread was a prerequisite to my supposition. I was considering the single kill.

But for balance, that would mean there needs to be a single lynch, and that would be dumb.

[DharmaHelper]

WOULD NOT LYNCH D2
sprityo
Epignosis
nutella
Quin

WOULD LYNCH D2
Dragon D Luffy
colonialbob
Dharmahelper
dom

It's as simple as that, folks.

LC is off the poll, SVS is out so long as she haikus, and I'm not lynching myself. Here's my line in the freaking sand, boys.

[speedchuck]

Where is Vaseline
to tell Chuck how voting for
low posters is bad?

DDL and DH are in there as well.

That post isn't about high/low posters. I'm 85%+ certain on every person in those top four being non-scum. You would be on the bottom list too, as would LC.

[speedchuck]

I'd prefer not to lynch DH just so Negan remains in the tribe.