Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[Dom]

I would have sent DH.

Quin— what’s up with kind of ignoring LC? That bothers me.

Nutella— u bad bc you want Epi be your voice.

Vote Nutella tbh

[DharmaHelper]

Send me to do mortal kombat with their whole tribe I'll fuck them up

Sloonei tell your tribe I'm gonna fight them I don't even care I'll do it.

[Quin]

I would have sent DH.

Quin— what’s up with kind of ignoring LC? That bothers me.

Nutella— u bad bc you want Epi be your voice.

Vote Nutella tbh

I made a passive-aggressive post about him. To ask more of me is just greedy.

[S~V~S]

If we won this challenge, who would we have sent? Pretend we chose by popular vote, I'd have nominated DH.

DH also.

[colonialbob]

If I won the puzz
Definitely going with
The one I trust - me

[DharmaHelper]

Just so everyone who is voting for me knows I would have lied to you all and convinced you the other tribe was plotting against us.

[nutella]

I would have sent DH.

Quin— what’s up with kind of ignoring LC? That bothers me.

Nutella— u bad bc you want Epi be your voice.

Vote Nutella tbh

....what

make some goddamn sense so I can defend pls

Epi is not my voice what the fuck he is literally suspicious of me I think

[nutella]

The good news is now Nutella is confirmed mafia

excuse me?? I'm not and what makes you think I am

It'd be good to know who the third person who did the challenge was.

I did it (see my post about loving puzzles/being good at them). I saw the pm about an hour after it was sent so probably didn't respond fast enough, my bad

Why did you volunteer for the puzzle but not be on call for the PM?

I have a life????? I got distracted??? Jesus people yall on crack

[DharmaHelper]

Ugh I hate this lynch I think speed and ddl both look mostly civ. I trust speed more though so I guess I'll vote for DDL, speed's points against him in the iso post and LC's point about the slip are decent and I think at this point I'd rather vote with speedchuck than throwaway vote outside the two contenders. Looks like shit if speed turns out to be bad, but I don't think he is so I'm taking the gamble here. Not feeling great about it though.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Yes hello waiter I'll have the CYA special with a side of all my bases covered

[mention]nutella[/mention] To answer your call to action, I'm seeing shades of your Blue Velvet game with posts like this. Also, I had a prophetic dream that said you were bad and I should vote for you.

[Epignosis]

The good news is now Nutella is confirmed mafia

excuse me?? I'm not and what makes you think I am

It'd be good to know who the third person who did the challenge was.

I did it (see my post about loving puzzles/being good at them). I saw the pm about an hour after it was sent so probably didn't respond fast enough, my bad

Why did you volunteer for the puzzle but not be on call for the PM?

I have a life????? I got distracted??? Jesus people yall on crack

Then you should not have volunteered. There is nothing "on-crack" about that. No time to work on puzzles? You have a life? Super. Go make it rain. Leave those of us without lives to do the puzzles.

This I don't get at all.

[nutella]

k... wasn't I technically indie in BV lol (though we had the team thing eventually)

anyway you should probably be more specific than that. I voted for DDL because I felt good about speedchuck and mildly bad about DDL and I didn't feel strongly enough about anyone else to vote outside of the two. not "covering my ass" just following my normal procedure for deciding on a vote when I don't have a strong suspect

[DharmaHelper]

Any time I see a player pull the "Oh golly Gee Mr. Police Mans, I just hate to vote to lynch this person, surely I do. But I gotta, you see? I gotta. I hate to do it boss, but I gotta. Sure hope it works out. Not sure it will, but I hope it does." routine it bugs me. Like, if you don't want to vote for the guy, don't. If you think he's civ or whatever, toss a different name in the hat. You don't *have* to vote for anyone.

[nutella]

The good news is now Nutella is confirmed mafia

excuse me?? I'm not and what makes you think I am

It'd be good to know who the third person who did the challenge was.

I did it (see my post about loving puzzles/being good at them). I saw the pm about an hour after it was sent so probably didn't respond fast enough, my bad

Why did you volunteer for the puzzle but not be on call for the PM?

I have a life????? I got distracted??? Jesus people yall on crack

Then you should not have volunteered. There is nothing "on-crack" about that. No time to work on puzzles? You have a life? Super. Go make it rain. Leave those of us without lives to do the puzzles.

This I don't get at all.

do you know what the word "distracted" means

I signed up when I thought I would be around to do the puzzle, I ended up doing something else for an hour unexpectedly

[DharmaHelper]

k... wasn't I technically indie in BV lol (though we had the team thing eventually)

anyway you should probably be more specific than that. I voted for DDL because I felt good about speedchuck and mildly bad about DDL and I didn't feel strongly enough about anyone else to vote outside of the two. not "covering my ass" just following my normal procedure for deciding on a vote when I don't have a strong suspect

You were a mafia recruiter. You recruited me and then we agreed to mutiny and form a third, independent team with Long Con after Timmer died and everyone voted to reveal the role list which blew most of the cover we had since everyone had already just about soft claimed or been lynched.

[Epignosis]

The good news is now Nutella is confirmed mafia

excuse me?? I'm not and what makes you think I am

It'd be good to know who the third person who did the challenge was.

I did it (see my post about loving puzzles/being good at them). I saw the pm about an hour after it was sent so probably didn't respond fast enough, my bad

Why did you volunteer for the puzzle but not be on call for the PM?

I have a life????? I got distracted??? Jesus people yall on crack

Then you should not have volunteered. There is nothing "on-crack" about that. No time to work on puzzles? You have a life? Super. Go make it rain. Leave those of us without lives to do the puzzles.

This I don't get at all.

do you know what the word "distracted" means

I signed up when I thought I would be around to do the puzzle, I ended up doing something else for an hour unexpectedly

I was drunk off my ass that night. But I was home and willing to riddle. I didn't get that opportunity.

[DharmaHelper]

The good news is now Nutella is confirmed mafia

excuse me?? I'm not and what makes you think I am

It'd be good to know who the third person who did the challenge was.

I did it (see my post about loving puzzles/being good at them). I saw the pm about an hour after it was sent so probably didn't respond fast enough, my bad

Why did you volunteer for the puzzle but not be on call for the PM?

I have a life????? I got distracted??? Jesus people yall on crack

Then you should not have volunteered. There is nothing "on-crack" about that. No time to work on puzzles? You have a life? Super. Go make it rain. Leave those of us without lives to do the puzzles.

This I don't get at all.

do you know what the word "distracted" means

I signed up when I thought I would be around to do the puzzle, I ended up doing something else for an hour unexpectedly

In Defense of Nutella, I signed up for the challenge 20 or so minutes after Jeff's request, and got a reply back a considerable time after. Not impossibly long but not instant either.

[nutella]

Any time I see a player pull the "Oh golly Gee Mr. Police Mans, I just hate to vote to lynch this person, surely I do. But I gotta, you see? I gotta. I hate to do it boss, but I gotta. Sure hope it works out. Not sure it will, but I hope it does." routine it bugs me. Like, if you don't want to vote for the guy, don't. If you think he's civ or whatever, toss a different name in the hat. You don't *have* to vote for anyone.

I was just being honest dude. I liked the points on DDL enough to throw a vote his way, especially when he was up against speedchuck who I strongly believed was town. As I said I didn't feel strongly enough about anyone else to toss a different name in. In that situation I vote for the person I feel weakly negatively about, partially to save the person I think is civ, but if it's pretty weak I express hesitation and fear that we may be voting for two civs. I didn't do this "gee mr police mans" thing as you say

[Epignosis]

Good to know. I would not have been able to participate either then. Drunk off my ass and all.

[Epignosis]

None of this is in favor of nutella as a mafia or civilian though.

[nutella]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

[nutella]

not to criticize the hosts though, I think this particular one was done fairly well -- the prize was for the whole tribe and each tribe had a pretty equal chance I guess

[Epignosis]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

[DharmaHelper]

Lynches are time sensative

[DharmaHelper]

Jokes aside, and not to get too sidetracked but I do agree that time-windowed events can be tricky to get right. Survivor Mafia was great with Scotty's challenges

[Quin]

Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).

So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.

Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.

[DharmaHelper]

Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).

So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.

Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.

You think nutella sabotaged the challenge...


and then confessed....

[Quin]

That's not on nutella specifically, it's just that she's the one who admitted to not being here.

[Quin]

Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).

So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.

Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.

You think nutella sabotaged the challenge...


and then confessed....

No, I just suck at making a point.

[DharmaHelper]

It makes sense for the mafia to scuttle this challenge on one side or another if they're on both sides. Fuck with whichever tribe is on their game, or boost up whichever tribe they have the most advantage on read-wise.


Luckily I am immune to this scrutiny, as even if I were mafia, I am too much of an arrogant asshole to intentionally throw any challenge of any kind even if it would be beneficial to do so.

[Dom]

yo quin

wtf

[Quin]

What I'm trying to say is that if anybody on our side sabotaged the challenge, their only real motivation for that would be that there's a higher chance of scum being sent over from the other tribe than ours. So if Sloonei (or a top townie over there) flip bad, we can look back at this event.

This is all assuming they have BTSC to coordinate this, which I don't see why they wouldn't.

[Quin]

Luckily I am immune to this scrutiny, as even if I were mafia, I am too much of an arrogant asshole to intentionally throw any challenge of any kind even if it would be beneficial to do so.

[Quin]

yo quin

wtf

hey buddy

[Quin]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

If something like this challenge happens again (where the winner can send someone to read, let us have it so that we can answer those questions about the lynches and nightkills on our side as well. I'm not sure if this thing from Jeff is going to be a daily thing, but best to say it now.

[Dom]

yo quin

wtf

hey buddy

[Dom]

I can't even imagine what the reaction would be if I straight up ignored questions posed to me...

[Dom]

(I can-- just read the beginning of this thread when I wasn't on school vacation.)

[Quin]

I can't even imagine what the reaction would be if I straight up ignored questions posed to me...

"Why are you ignoring LC"? I answered this already.

I'm not ignoring LC. I said his ISO sucked ass.

[Quin]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

If my games were to have time sensitive stuff in them, I'd have them go something like this:

I send a PM to check availability and wait for a reply. I'll then send a confirmation PM and if I get a response to that within a couple of minutes I'll send it through. Otherwise I'll do enough rounds of PM's until the player is responding in that time frame. After a certain deadline I'd just send it through.

It might take a while to get started, but it's the most reliable way that I can think of.

[Long Con]

I'd really like clarification from the hosts on how much we can talk about these challenges. If I did one, I'd want to talk about it, but I don't know if infodropping rules come into play.

[juliets]

I'd really like clarification from the hosts on how much we can talk about these challenges. If I did one, I'd want to talk about it, but I don't know if infodropping rules come into play.

I've asked Golden to address this issue when he gets here.

[Epignosis]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

If my games were to have time sensitive stuff in them, I'd have them go something like this:

I send a PM to check availability and wait for a reply. I'll then send a confirmation PM and if I get a response to that within a couple of minutes I'll send it through. Otherwise I'll do enough rounds of PM's until the player is responding in that time frame. After a certain deadline I'd just send it through.

It might take a while to get started, but it's the most reliable way that I can think of.

Back in the day there used to be things like posting challenges. Who can make the most non-consecutive posts and all that rot? Holy crap were we uncivilized.

[S~V~S]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

If my games were to have time sensitive stuff in them, I'd have them go something like this:

I send a PM to check availability and wait for a reply. I'll then send a confirmation PM and if I get a response to that within a couple of minutes I'll send it through. Otherwise I'll do enough rounds of PM's until the player is responding in that time frame. After a certain deadline I'd just send it through.

It might take a while to get started, but it's the most reliable way that I can think of.

Back in the day there used to be things like posting challenges. Who can make the most non-consecutive posts and all that rot? Holy crap were we uncivilized.

I think we were fine back in the day. All "civilization" isn't the same. Those things were fun and got people involved. So are contests. To each his own; if you don't like it don't participate.

[Long Con]

Yeah, I fondly remember the Perpetual Motion Time Machine contest. Post once per hour for the longest, and you win the Doomsday Hourglass, a device that can turn back time, erasing the results of a night or lynch.

[Epignosis]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

If my games were to have time sensitive stuff in them, I'd have them go something like this:

I send a PM to check availability and wait for a reply. I'll then send a confirmation PM and if I get a response to that within a couple of minutes I'll send it through. Otherwise I'll do enough rounds of PM's until the player is responding in that time frame. After a certain deadline I'd just send it through.

It might take a while to get started, but it's the most reliable way that I can think of.

Back in the day there used to be things like posting challenges. Who can make the most non-consecutive posts and all that rot? Holy crap were we uncivilized.

I think we were fine back in the day. All "civilization" isn't the same. Those things were fun and got people involved. So are contests. To each his own; if you don't like it don't participate.

No need to take offense. That was a reference to something I recall someone saying about The Syndicate being like some hidden tribe in the jungle, which I found really really funny.

[Long Con]

tbh that's part of why I hate time-sensitive challenges in mafia. like, if you don't happen to be online at the right time you don't get a chance. it's like "hey, to the few people who happen to be around at this moment, you can have a cool prize!" it's grossly unfair.

I agree with this, which is why I do not have time-sensitive shit in my games.

If my games were to have time sensitive stuff in them, I'd have them go something like this:

I send a PM to check availability and wait for a reply. I'll then send a confirmation PM and if I get a response to that within a couple of minutes I'll send it through. Otherwise I'll do enough rounds of PM's until the player is responding in that time frame. After a certain deadline I'd just send it through.

It might take a while to get started, but it's the most reliable way that I can think of.

Back in the day there used to be things like posting challenges. Who can make the most non-consecutive posts and all that rot? Holy crap were we uncivilized.

I think we were fine back in the day. All "civilization" isn't the same. Those things were fun and got people involved. So are contests. To each his own; if you don't like it don't participate.

No need to take offense. That was a reference to something I recall someone saying about The Syndicate being like some hidden tribe in the jungle, which I found really really funny.

I enjoyed that as well. I see it more as a hidden Wakanda than some cannibalistic primitive... though we have characteristics of both. I strive to be Black Panther when I host a game.

[S~V~S]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] I was quoting you because that post was the last in the thread; it was more of a generic thing.

I found that "jungle" remark a tad unjust, tbh. I thought we were OK, not backwards or whatever. We were focused on creativity, not conformity, which is paramount to my mind. But I get that it wasn't meant in that way. It just seems to me that there is a lot of complaining about game elements and mechanics in this game and I'm not a huge fan of that kind of thing. There is a place for that, and I don't think the a game thread is it. Grumble Grumble.

And that is NOT aimed at you, it is a general statement

[S~V~S]

Hi Sloonei *waves*

[Long Con]

Feels so weird to be watched.

[juliets]

Night will end at approximately 5:56 pm eastern standard time today which means pms are due in to me and Golden by 3:56 pm eastern standard time. Also please remember this rule:

4) You may not target someone on two consecutive nights unless your role says otherwise. Some roles will have their targets randomised if you do not send a PM, so if you want to make a tactical choice not to use your night power, please PM the host to check first. All targeting roles need to send a PM to both golden and juliets at least two hours before deadline.

I really don't want to be running randomizations and I know you probably don't want your abilities randomized so please get those pms in on time. Thanks in advance and let us know if you have any questions.