juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:45 pmNight will end at approximately 5:56 pm eastern standard time today which means pms are due in to me and Golden by 3:56 pm eastern standard time. Also please remember this rule:
4) You may not target someone on two consecutive nights unless your role says otherwise. Some roles will have their targets randomised if you do not send a PM, so if you want to make a tactical choice not to use your night power, please PM the host to check first. All targeting roles need to send a PM to both golden and juliets at least two hours before deadline.
I really don't want to be running randomizations and I know you probably don't want your abilities randomized so please get those pms in on time. Thanks in advance and let us know if you have any questions.
[mention]Long Con[/mention] Is the hourglass thing the thing that Bree won and then I (as the AI computer role) Corrupted with a wish or whatever from that maze?
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm
@Long Con Is the hourglass thing the thing that Bree won and then I (as the AI computer role) Corrupted with a wish or whatever from that maze?
Oh no that's a different thing, this one she could look into and see NK/Lynch results like an hour or two in advance of everyone else or something.
IIRC I won a wish or a prize or something from one of Long Con's mazes. Then when Bree won whatever it was, I sent LC and BR this huge story post/narrative in a PM about me corrupting her prize so that the results she got were wrong a certain percentage of time.
I remember because immediately after sending the PM LC sent me one that said something along the lines of "If that's how you are going to ask for this, I would have given you any prize you asked for."
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:18 am
I'd really like clarification from the hosts on how much we can talk about these challenges. If I did one, I'd want to talk about it, but I don't know if infodropping rules come into play.
I've given this serious consideration, and in the end I'm fine that you talk about the challenges, but just be aware that the hosts will not be answering questions or giving any clarifications about the challenge or the end result.
I did a Sudoku challenge, and it was exactly 20 minutes from the time I got the PM to the time I sent in the solution. That includes a few minutes for Photoshop starting up and a couple of minutes getting it uploaded to Imgur. I think it was pretty good time, but there's no real comparison to a riddle or whatever you guys got.
I got one of those silly "how do you pour water between jugs of these volumes to get a specific exact volume" puzzles and solved it within 5 minutes of seeing it, but as I said I saw the pm an hour after it was sent :\
The hired guns of the Citadel Council met once again in the dark of night. So far, the re-animation technology appeared to be going off without a hitch, although there was something a little bit weird about Ninja's jaw, and every now and then Scotty would yell "FREEDOM" for no particular reason. All in all, though, everyone seemed to be doing ok. It didn't hurt so much that someone had taken out Scotty in the dead of the previous night, although perhaps it was a little worrying that they weren't the only ones without an agenda.
Nevertheless, they had clear instructions from the Council. Continue their work. They chose their next target, and pulled the trigger.
Night 3 has ended. JackofHearts2005 has died. He was:
89: Kramer (Seinfeld). You are persuasive at convincing people to do things they shouldn't be doing. Once each night, you will target a player and force them to publicly vote the way of his choosing the next day.
It is now day 4. It will last for 48 hours. Vote away
So the biggest downside I can see to getting the other tribes NK results is that we have no idea if/who is being targeted on our side of things, which makes making cases for lynches much harder. We just do not have the evidence necessary to put out cases.
Hello Pikachu tribe, Cecil aka Sprityo here. It is true you have found me out. A great job to DH for figuring it out, I was shocked myself. Albeit I still have my suspicions of you. Actually I’m paranoid about all of you except probably SVS. Getting that gut feeling
Whether you choose to believe me is your own decision, that’s why I am able to claim here. And of course I cannot reference I wrote this once the day starts.
More so this is more a way I can confirm to you I am still alive.
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:04 pmCecils Message:
Hello Pikachu tribe, Cecil aka Sprityo here. It is true you have found me out. A great job to DH for figuring it out, I was shocked myself. Albeit I still have my suspicions of you. Actually I’m paranoid about all of you except probably SVS. Getting that gut feeling
Whether you choose to believe me is your own decision, that’s why I am able to claim here. And of course I cannot reference I wrote this once the day starts.
More so this is more a way I can confirm to you I am still alive.
Everyone else check in please. We could (if there were other nightkills) have 4 people (me, DDL, and 2 nightkills) that were primed for perma-death this night.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:17 pm
Dh and I are alive.
Everyone else check in please. We could (if there were other nightkills) have 4 people (me, DDL, and 2 nightkills) that were primed for perma-death this night.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:49 pm
That one could be civilian or mafia. It's a vote manipulation role, and therefore one I am glad is gone regardless.
I don't know if DH had a real reason to want a tie, but if he did, DDL's role might have messed up anything he got from it.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:49 pm
That one could be civilian or mafia. It's a vote manipulation role, and therefore one I am glad is gone regardless.
I don't know if DH had a real reason to want a tie, but if he did, DDL's role might have messed up anything he got from it.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:49 pm
That one could be civilian or mafia. It's a vote manipulation role, and therefore one I am glad is gone regardless.
I don't know if DH had a real reason to want a tie, but if he did, DDL's role might have messed up anything he got from it.
I'll make some cliffnotes about some of the key things that have happened so far on our side, just in case you don't get around to reading the whole thing.
Day 1: Everyone who submitted a haiku on their entry PM got lynch immunity for that day. SVS, supported by DH, were in favour of doing a round-robin vote so that there was a higher chance of getting a role to flip for information. sprityo admitted to not submitting which drew a few votes. speedchuck drew a few votes as well, but I don't remember why. I also drew a few votes both for the round-robin and actual suspicion. There was a last minute hot potato on me by Epi and speedchuck who have explained their reasons in their ISO. I submitted so I didn't get lynched. colonailbob is untouchable until he draws the lynch on Day 6.
Day 2: Ended in a tie between DDL and speedchuck. speedchuck lynched as a doctor but we don't know his alignment. sprityo's current role is (maybe) sorted as civ.
Day 3: Wasn't here for a lot of it, but we just lynched DDL, a vote manipulator.
As well as all that, we aren't sure about how the night kills work in this game. We're not learning who you lynch during the day, but we're learning who was killed on your side every night. We haven't had any kills on this side that we know of. If you're getting the same sort of thing, you can take it to your side that there's 2 lynches and 2 night kills.
If there's stuff I missed or didn't think "key" then hopefully others will add stuff.
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:03 am
Where she has taken a stance though, bothers me.
It always ties herself to Epi.
If nutella is bad, then how would this make you feel about Epi?
very not good.
Quin-- I'd like to hear your response to LC's points. He made some good ones.
No he didn't.
Is that a “no you’re not going to answer?” Or a “I’ll do it later”
haven't even read the post, but if he's accusing me of being bad then he has 0 good points.
Quin just got shuffled into the good deck.
If you happen to give a damn what I want, one thing on my list is that you explain this. The logic is not apparent to me. Is that intentional? Are you being coy?
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:31 pm
i read LC'S ISO. I especially liked the part where he says that my only contribution is that I town-read speedchuck. Then I realised that he was actually trying to scum hunt and not doing a comedy skit.
Oh, sorry. So, after you townread speedchuck, you suggested Epi might be bad for using three emoticons... you reiterated your townread on chuck, and DH... you gave Sloonei a news report on thread facts... oh, the part where you'd like to get "an answer to this from as many people as possible" for "who would we have nominated" was rich. Frankly, this looks like a poor echo of something I recall from a recent game. Was there even a point?
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:59 am
Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).
So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.
Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.
This one I had to isolate. This pretense at logic is the biggest sham. So you are suggesting that baddies here would coordinate with town-read Sloonei on the other side, to throw the contest, to make sure Sloonei gets to come over here and spy on us? To spy on the thread that *our baddie* is part of. So, what, this is a plan to prevent the Civs from getting other-thread info? As if Sloonei is going to go back to their thread and *edit* the info he gives them in a way that benefits the mafia? You want this to sound like anything more than an attempt at seeming relevant, you have to do better than that.
Your ISO sucks ass dude. Go through it yourself, click the link up there and refute one thing I have said about it since "you townread speedchuck". Show me the good Civ content.
hey long con before i actually bother to give a damn about any of that can you tell me why you're ignoring literally all of my content prior to the latter half of day 2?
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:31 pm
i read LC'S ISO. I especially liked the part where he says that my only contribution is that I town-read speedchuck. Then I realised that he was actually trying to scum hunt and not doing a comedy skit.
Oh, sorry. So, after you townread speedchuck, you suggested Epi might be bad for using three emoticons... you reiterated your townread on chuck, and DH... you gave Sloonei a news report on thread facts... oh, the part where you'd like to get "an answer to this from as many people as possible" for "who would we have nominated" was rich. Frankly, this looks like a poor echo of something I recall from a recent game. Was there even a point?
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:59 am
Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).
So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.
Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.
This one I had to isolate. This pretense at logic is the biggest sham. So you are suggesting that baddies here would coordinate with town-read Sloonei on the other side, to throw the contest, to make sure Sloonei gets to come over here and spy on us? To spy on the thread that *our baddie* is part of. So, what, this is a plan to prevent the Civs from getting other-thread info? As if Sloonei is going to go back to their thread and *edit* the info he gives them in a way that benefits the mafia? You want this to sound like anything more than an attempt at seeming relevant, you have to do better than that.
Your ISO sucks ass dude. Go through it yourself, click the link up there and refute one thing I have said about it since "you townread speedchuck". Show me the good Civ content.
also kind of want to know why he's pretending i didnt just make this very same conclusion myself
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:31 pm
i read LC'S ISO. I especially liked the part where he says that my only contribution is that I town-read speedchuck. Then I realised that he was actually trying to scum hunt and not doing a comedy skit.
Oh, sorry. So, after you townread speedchuck, you suggested Epi might be bad for using three emoticons... you reiterated your townread on chuck, and DH... you gave Sloonei a news report on thread facts... oh, the part where you'd like to get "an answer to this from as many people as possible" for "who would we have nominated" was rich. Frankly, this looks like a poor echo of something I recall from a recent game. Was there even a point?
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:59 am
Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).
So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.
Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.
This one I had to isolate. This pretense at logic is the biggest sham. So you are suggesting that baddies here would coordinate with town-read Sloonei on the other side, to throw the contest, to make sure Sloonei gets to come over here and spy on us? To spy on the thread that *our baddie* is part of. So, what, this is a plan to prevent the Civs from getting other-thread info? As if Sloonei is going to go back to their thread and *edit* the info he gives them in a way that benefits the mafia? You want this to sound like anything more than an attempt at seeming relevant, you have to do better than that.
Your ISO sucks ass dude. Go through it yourself, click the link up there and refute one thing I have said about it since "you townread speedchuck". Show me the good Civ content.
also kind of want to know why he's pretending i didnt just make this very same conclusion myself
Ok gotcha, so this was only an attempt to seem relevant. This I understood already.
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:43 am
hey long con before i actually bother to give a damn about any of that can you tell me why you're ignoring literally all of my content prior to the latter half of day 2?
I reviewed it. It was weak. Do you want to go and point out the strengths to refute that, or did you want me to go at it?
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:31 pm
i read LC'S ISO. I especially liked the part where he says that my only contribution is that I town-read speedchuck. Then I realised that he was actually trying to scum hunt and not doing a comedy skit.
Oh, sorry. So, after you townread speedchuck, you suggested Epi might be bad for using three emoticons... you reiterated your townread on chuck, and DH... you gave Sloonei a news report on thread facts... oh, the part where you'd like to get "an answer to this from as many people as possible" for "who would we have nominated" was rich. Frankly, this looks like a poor echo of something I recall from a recent game. Was there even a point?
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:59 am
Regardless of which side lost the challenge, the other tribe would have sent their own top town read (that would actually read). There's only benefit in scum sabotaging the challenge on one side if there's a highly read scum on the other side who had a chance of being sent instead (to remove the benefit to town entirely).
So for nutella to have intentionally thrown this as scum, it puts a question mark on Sloonei's (or other top reads on the other side) alignment. I think this makes sense.
Despite all this, I can't say that I'd have given a damn who won this challenge. We'd have shared information when we merged anyway, and it'd a ballsy move for scum to lie or omit stuff they read on the other side.
This one I had to isolate. This pretense at logic is the biggest sham. So you are suggesting that baddies here would coordinate with town-read Sloonei on the other side, to throw the contest, to make sure Sloonei gets to come over here and spy on us? To spy on the thread that *our baddie* is part of. So, what, this is a plan to prevent the Civs from getting other-thread info? As if Sloonei is going to go back to their thread and *edit* the info he gives them in a way that benefits the mafia? You want this to sound like anything more than an attempt at seeming relevant, you have to do better than that.
Your ISO sucks ass dude. Go through it yourself, click the link up there and refute one thing I have said about it since "you townread speedchuck". Show me the good Civ content.
also kind of want to know why he's pretending i didnt just make this very same conclusion myself
Ok gotcha, so this was only an attempt to seem relevant. This I understood already.
sometimes i forget that thoughts are static. thanks, long con.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:43 am
hey long con before i actually bother to give a damn about any of that can you tell me why you're ignoring literally all of my content prior to the latter half of day 2?
I reviewed it. It was weak. Do you want to go and point out the strengths to refute that, or did you want me to go at it?
go at it, please.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
An unfortunate side-effect of resurrection - sometimes it can be difficult to tell exactly who died.
The hosts have made a rather sizeable error. We thought that Dragon D. Luffy had been killed, but upon further observation it has been clear that he is acting more or less the same as usual. Nutella,
on the other hand - there's definitely something different about her.
As a result, we are reissuing the results of the day three lynch.
Nutella has died. She was:
86: Proton (Elemental) - You have BTSC with Electron. You will be sent a chat link for BTSC and must log in as "Proton". Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Air, Earth, Wind or Fire) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. While Electron is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Air, Earth, Wind or Fire. When you and Electron are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Your target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while Electrons target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same pair of elements until each pair has been selected. If Electron dies before you, you may not select the same element on consecutive nights. You may not select the same target on consecutive nights. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.
That was day 3. Then came night 4. It is still day 4.
Dragon D. Luffy has had his first life restored, but to be fair to all he will remain in his second role for both lives. His role will not be revealed upon his first death.
(To be clear, this is not a player ability causing this - it is a genuine host error. There was something we missed at the time, and have identified upon review. As it happened, in the context of this particular setup there was an easily available option to fix the issue.)
Either it was with the obvious candidate, someone else here, or someone on the other side, imo. And therein lies thoughts about the affiliation of her role.
If it is the obvious person, Epi, then last lynch he put her on his short "people I would vote for" list for vague reason he could not articulate. I have never heard of a civvie BTSC partner distancing from their partner by casting shade at them. So if it is Epi, they are not civvies.
Or Nutella (but not Epi, really) acting like she had BTSC with Epi was all just a mass coincidence, and she actually has BTSC with someone else. I don't see her mirroring anyone, or vice versa, so if they are on this side, they are discreet, although all game, tbh, Nutella has been acting BTSC-ish, even if you take the Epi interpretation posts out of it. But if they are on the other side, that opens up a new can of worms in that, why did she volunteer for the challenge, the mechanics of which she doesn't even like, if she already knew what was going on? Unless there was an ulterior motive? She was only one of three; she cut our chances of winning the challenge, but didn't kill them as both LC and DH are strong and competitive in contests.
I was going to vote Nutella again today, but that would be a second death, a permanent death, and this opens up a new bunch of possibilities. And that does sound possibly civ or, more likely, Indy to me than bad. Indy especially if we think Epi was her partner. I am going to reread her for thoughts on the other side and anything else with this new insight. I would rather try to figure it out before just ending her game.
Re Quin v LC, I am feeling a civ LC here. I do not read Quin well. I tried searching his posts for "LC" but no results (there often are not with initials) to see if he has had many thoughts on him before this "No U" style vote. I skimmed him, and I saw a lot of vague, and from what I recall on Quin, that is not necessarily alignment indicative, he can hold his cards close (but my read could most def be faulty re Quin, I don't have extensive history with him, more one intense game with specific objectives).
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Jeff Probst wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:06 pm
Hey there, folks! Welcome to Survivor!
I need three volunteers from your tribe ASAP.
Each volunteer will receive a puzzle, as soon as I can send one within seeing a PM notification. The volunteers will then have until end of Day 3 (5:52PM Eastern time) at the latest to solve the puzzle.
The faster that your tribe's volunteer completes the puzzle, the better chance he or she has to help your tribe win the prize! Specifically, I will add the time between my sending out each puzzle and the volunteer's correct response. Any incorrect answer will simply mean your volunteer fails that puzzle.
The tribe that has the most correct puzzles first will be the winner! In the event of a tie, the least total time for all puzzles will be used as a tiebreaker.
The Prize: The winning tribe will have lynch immunity for their entire tribe and will be able to send one person to the other tribe to ‘observe’ (get viewing permission but not be allowed to post or vote) until end of Night 3.
Please PM the Jeff Probst sock account to volunteer. I will only accept the first three volunteers from each tribe. Good luck!
OK, I misread this, she did scotch our chances. I misremembered, I thought it was *first* correct answer, not *most* correct answers.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:48 am
So Nutellas first role has BTSC?
Time for reexamination. ALOT of it.
Either it was with the obvious candidate, someone else here, or someone on the other side, imo. And therein lies thoughts about the affiliation of her role.
If it is the obvious person, Epi, then last lynch he put her on his short "people I would vote for" list for vague reason he could not articulate. I have never heard of a civvie BTSC partner distancing from their partner by casting shade at them. So if it is Epi, they are not civvies.
Or Nutella (but not Epi, really) acting like she had BTSC with Epi was all just a mass coincidence, and she actually has BTSC with someone else. I don't see her mirroring anyone, or vice versa, so if they are on this side, they are discreet, although all game, tbh, Nutella has been acting BTSC-ish, even if you take the Epi interpretation posts out of it. But if they are on the other side, that opens up a new can of worms in that, why did she volunteer for the challenge, the mechanics of which she doesn't even like, if she already knew what was going on? Unless there was an ulterior motive? She was only one of three; she cut our chances of winning the challenge, but didn't kill them as both LC and DH are strong and competitive in contests.
I was going to vote Nutella again today, but that would be a second death, a permanent death, and this opens up a new bunch of possibilities. And that does sound possibly civ or, more likely, Indy to me than bad. Indy especially if we think Epi was her partner. I am going to reread her for thoughts on the other side and anything else with this new insight. I would rather try to figure it out before just ending her game.
Re Quin v LC, I am feeling a civ LC here. I do not read Quin well. I tried searching his posts for "LC" but no results (there often are not with initials) to see if he has had many thoughts on him before this "No U" style vote. I skimmed him, and I saw a lot of vague, and from what I recall on Quin, that is not necessarily alignment indicative, he can hold his cards close (but my read could most def be faulty re Quin, I don't have extensive history with him, more one intense game with specific objectives).
nutella's BTSC partner was nijuu, who died night 1.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
