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From my experience, I would say #3 is usually the exact opposite. I've replaced into many games before, and only once was it with a baddie team.Epignosis wrote: No madam.
I am bored because:
1. I was killed Night 1 and brought back. I have no need to defend myself. Which means I may die at any moment.
2. I have no suspicion on anyone given the nature of this game.
3. Replacements should be lynched, given that from my experience, such people replace bad guys.
Perhaps his teammate was replaced...DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.
Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies.At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.
two and three contradict one another, don't they?Epignosis wrote:
No madam.
I am bored because:
1. I was killed Night 1 and brought back. I have no need to defend myself. Which means I may die at any moment.
2. I have no suspicion on anyone given the nature of this game.
3. Replacements should be lynched, given that from my experience, such people replace bad guys.
As a replacement, I obviously have strong personal feelings against Epi's 3rd point. I also agree with the objections DP and Elo raised about it from a theoretical perspective.DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.
Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies.At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
That is not the llama gambit, I'll have you know. I fish for reactions all the time.Devin the Omniscient wrote:The llama gambit![]()
Dun dun DAAAHHHH!!!!!
thellama73 wrote:Now that all the votes have been cast, I can reveal the patented "Llama Gambit."
Knowing that most of the time baddies try to act helpful and logical to blend in with the civvies, I decided to act crazy and illogical. A baddie would have to be nuts to act the way I've been acting, and I was counting on the civs realizing that. Therefore, civs would be unlikely to vote for me, but baddies would see an opportunity. They could vote for a civ and when my affiliation is revealed excuse themselevs by saying "well, he was acting really crazy."
However, by revealing my strategy in the thread, one of two things will happen: Either I get lynched, in which case the civvies have good info on who the baddies are based on who voted for me, or I survive and still have good info based on the votes for me. Either way, my team is aided substantially towards victory.
This is the "Llama Gambit." I hope you are sa impressed with it as I was when I came up with it.
Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?
Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?
How so?A Person wrote:Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?
Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?
I assumed #3 was you saying that we shouldn't excuse replacements, it seemed more logical than just lynching them because they're replacements.Epignosis wrote:How so?A Person wrote:Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?
Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?
Nah, I meant what I said there.A Person wrote:I assumed #3 was you saying that we shouldn't excuse replacements, it seemed more logical than just lynching them because they're replacements.Epignosis wrote:How so?A Person wrote:Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?
Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?
Affect/EffectEpignosis wrote:That is not the llama gambit, I'll have you know. I fish for reactions all the time.Devin the Omniscient wrote:The llama gambit![]()
Dun dun DAAAHHHH!!!!!
thellama73 wrote:Now that all the votes have been cast, I can reveal the patented "Llama Gambit."
Knowing that most of the time baddies try to act helpful and logical to blend in with the civvies, I decided to act crazy and illogical. A baddie would have to be nuts to act the way I've been acting, and I was counting on the civs realizing that. Therefore, civs would be unlikely to vote for me, but baddies would see an opportunity. They could vote for a civ and when my affiliation is revealed excuse themselevs by saying "well, he was acting really crazy."
However, by revealing my strategy in the thread, one of two things will happen: Either I get lynched, in which case the civvies have good info on who the baddies are based on who voted for me, or I survive and still have good info based on the votes for me. Either way, my team is aided substantially towards victory.
This is the "Llama Gambit." I hope you are sa impressed with it as I was when I came up with it.
Heh heh, I wonder who that could be.MovingPictures07 wrote: I know a certain someone who would love to replace back into the game.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:From my experience, I would say #3 is usually the exact opposite. I've replaced into many games before, and only once was it with a baddie team.
(I'm basing this off of games I had already been in, died, and came back as a replacement. So it might not be the strongest sample size.)
It's just not something I see being very common. I think if it happens too much, it can give the baddies an advantage. Especially if it's civvies who were NKed.
Where it gets interesting is that they've BOTH missed three out of six votes...the same Day periods: 1, 4, & 5.DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.
Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies.At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.
thellama73
3
birdwithteeth11 (4), insertnamehere (8), DisgruntledPorcupine (11) 23%
thellama73
5
Elohcin (5), Matahari (8), Boomslang (9), birdwithteeth11 (10), DisgruntledPorcupine (12)
29%
In sum, when they don't vote, it's together, and when they do vote, it's together, and always for a civilian. Six Day periods. God rested after that, folks.Boomslang
9
Lizzy (6), Devin the Omniscient (7), Mongoose (8), Elohcin (9), Matahari (10), A Person (11), birdwithteeth11 (12), Hedgeowl (13),
DisgruntledPorcupine (14) 64%
Hasn't been replaced yet. He's on the poll. Looks like fair game for today.Mongoose wrote:What's the protocol on voting DP, since he is going to be replaced?
Best I ever tasted.Elohcin wrote:I'm never buying boxed hot chocolate again. This homemade hot chocolate is amazing!
Was the heat homemade, or the chocolate, or both?Elohcin wrote:I'm never buying boxed hot chocolate again. This homemade hot chocolate is amazing!
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Of course not, since you're his teammate.Mongoose wrote: Epi - Okay, that makes sense. I am not sure my vote will lie with him, but I remember he said something that gave me the pricklies earlier in the game.
Indeed! We are the best teammates ever!Epignosis wrote:Of course not, since you're his teammate.Mongoose wrote: Epi - Okay, that makes sense. I am not sure my vote will lie with him, but I remember he said something that gave me the pricklies earlier in the game.
Do tell.Mongoose wrote: * and more.
For what reasons?Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.
This isn't the hot chocolate thread. I posted why.Elohcin wrote:For what reasons?Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.
Sorry, I totally missed that somehow. I don't know how...it's not like it was a short post. And, I think I agree with you about the two you suspect (BWT and DP) and their defensive reactions to your post. I will take the night to think about it and decide who to vote in the morning as I will be done when the poll ends.Epignosis wrote:This isn't the hot chocolate thread. I posted why.Elohcin wrote:For what reasons?Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
That's exactly what a baddie would saythellama73 wrote:The funny thing is, Rob's analysis is excellent and I would have totally gone along with it if I had not learned, just a couple of seconds ago when I got my new role PM, that it is completely wrong.