Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Jackofhearts2005]

What's the case on Choutas? I'ma be honest and say I haven't read Sloonbeard's Colin interaction posts yet. Is there anything besides that?

Not really. Choitas has a 14 post iso so its not like there’s that much to review.

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck so evil, Thanos thinks his plans are a bit much.

Spoilers :/

[Kylemii]

[ytubehd][/ytubehd]

Sloonei

same question.

By the looks of it mafia are killing civilians while civilians try to hunt mafia.

I deserved this. I was meaning to ask you why your vote was on Chou, but I actually just haven't read your colinalysis yet, it probably says why in there

[Dom]

Why are people voting Choutas?

[wolbre04]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine idk why we are going after a wallflower when we have macs hunches still alive

[Golden]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine idk why we are going after a wallflower when we have macs hunches still alive

I don't know why you keep calling them Mac's hunches when I clearly called them out first and Mac followed me. Stuff like this is bothersome in that it could explain Mac's death.

Noone should blindly follow the leads of someone who is dead. That's the way you let mafia control the action. It's great as a mafia to kill a strong town lead and then blindly go down their picks.

I want to see discussion not blind devotion.

[Dom]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine idk why we are going after a wallflower when we have macs hunches still alive

I don't know why you keep calling them Mac's hunches when I clearly called them out first and Mac followed me. Stuff like this is bothersome in that it could explain Mac's death.

Noone should blindly follow the leads of someone who is dead. That's the way you let mafia control the action. It's great as a mafia to kill a strong town lead and then blindly go down their picks.

I want to see discussion not blind devotion.

to be fair..... it wasn't just you and mac running the show here.

I don't understand why people are voting for choutas. I've never played with them before and they're not striking me as bad.

[Dom]

Also-- school has started for me again. I'll be much busier than I was this past week.

[Golden]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine idk why we are going after a wallflower when we have macs hunches still alive

I don't know why you keep calling them Mac's hunches when I clearly called them out first and Mac followed me. Stuff like this is bothersome in that it could explain Mac's death.

Noone should blindly follow the leads of someone who is dead. That's the way you let mafia control the action. It's great as a mafia to kill a strong town lead and then blindly go down their picks.

I want to see discussion not blind devotion.

to be fair..... it wasn't just you and mac running the show here.

I don't understand why people are voting for choutas. I've never played with them before and they're not striking me as bad.

To be fair - that's sort of my point. Accrediting "Mac" as being the only person who has done anything is bothersome to me.

[colonialbob]

What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

[Dom]

cbob, who should we vote for instead?

[colonialbob]

cbob, who should we vote for instead?

Right now leaning LC or Lunalee. But I still need to do my investigating.

[colonialbob]

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] what changed between these two posts?

[Dom]

That's an excellent point, cbob.


[mention]Lunalee[/mention] explain pls

[Dom]

Those are consecutive posts in her iso. "still" is an interesting choice of words.

[Quin]

That Lunalee thing is neat. That's the second potential teammate association I've seen including LC (first is Golden). Spooky.

Don't have the time to read into LC himself (it's almost 10pm and I'm catching up on the work I missed while I was out car shopping today), and I don't want to vote him because of what otherpeople have said.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[Long Con]

Despite me also sharing suspicion of her I wouldn't want to lynch Dunya this early unless the case was very good and we were devoid of better options because of the obvious 'she is a big town loss if mislynched'. Particularly in a game with this cast.

She has a lot of content to produce town or mafia. She won't get any harder to lynch unless she wins cred by helping us lynch her teammates. I say she is worthy of giving the benefit of the doubt more often than not. Last time she rolled scum she replaced out too. She doesn't worry me too badly as Mafia but losing her town skill does worry me. Her town skill is not a myth. It is legitimate and worthy of consideration.

Noted, but that's kind of a dangerous reason to keep a suspect alive.

Just going through Long Con's ISO, and found this from back then. Is dunya still on vacation?

[Dom]

I believe so.

What about Spacedaisy?

[Dom]

That Lunalee thing is neat. That's the second potential teammate association I've seen including LC (first is Golden). Spooky.

Don't have the time to read into LC himself (it's almost 10pm and I'm catching up on the work I missed while I was out car shopping today), and I don't want to vote him because of what otherpeople have said.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Quin, to be clear, you want to lynch Lunalee because she might be LC's teammate?

[Marmot]

Hi all, I was busy yesterday.

Time to pretend to read posts, manufacture reads, and get a hubbub going.

[Marmot]

I've read two pages so far. It's entirely a Long Con Golden dialogue. Is that what this day shaped up to be?

[Marmot]

People who haven't voted today: [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] [mention]M Plus 7[/mention], where you guys at?

[Marmot]

EBWOP: That is a list of players who haven't posted today.

[Marmot]

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

It's possible they're in cahoots with the baddies.

[Turnip Head]

Why are people voting Choutas?

tell me what to do plz

[Marmot]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

I don't like this vote. I guess it's not actually a vote, but TH is voting for Choutas, and this is the reason I've found.

Linki: Oh hi, how about those two reason TH ol' buddy?

[Turnip Head]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

I don't like this vote. I guess it's not actually a vote, but TH is voting for Choutas, and this is the reason I've found.

Linki: Oh hi, how about those two reason TH ol' buddy?

are you really interested or are you just gonna make fun of me?

[Marmot]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

I don't like this vote. I guess it's not actually a vote, but TH is voting for Choutas, and this is the reason I've found.

Linki: Oh hi, how about those two reason TH ol' buddy?

are you really interested or are you just gonna make fun of me?

I like it when people promise things and follow through on them.

[Marmot]

Happy belated birthday Sloonei!

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

I saw Turnip Head with the devil.

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?

I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

[Scotty]

Yeah, that “still not happy” in Luna’s last Post is bothersome, based solely on the fact that her prior post insinuated that she had read him bad and was actually asking the thread WHY NOT? She seems perfectly happy then.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[colonialbob]

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?

I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

But those votes were less than an hour apart?

[Scotty]

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?

I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

Oh hai

So “not happy” means you still suspect him but don’t like your vote in the minority?

“I felt most confident about [Sloonei’s]”

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Uh huh..

[Turnip Head]

ooo look there's 4 Choutas posts. [mention]Marmot[/mention] mot mebbeh you can decipher why they bother me

There now appear to be many game-relevant posts on day one. I blame MP, but I'm voting sloonei for now because yolo

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

This is sloppy. Yellow card for you another one and you get my vote.
[/quote][/quote]

Golden retrieves my vote.
"pun intended"

[/quote]

********Line break to signify my own internal thought process changes to read further********

Wow that's unexpectedly cool.
This game is a behemoth but I'll try to chime in today.

Sloonei looks bad to me. How he jumped on the bandwagon because I voted for him the previous day.
I just don't like him at all.

and this is when i gave up on formatting

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?

I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

But those votes were less than an hour apart?

True. I mistakenly thought the poll ended at 5, so I was quick to jump. I realized later that I had another day.

[Turnip Head]

Choutas is sounding a little phony to me lately, that's all I've got tho

I don't like this vote. I guess it's not actually a vote, but TH is voting for Choutas, and this is the reason I've found.

Linki: Oh hi, how about those two reason TH ol' buddy?

are you really interested or are you just gonna make fun of me?

I like it when people promise things and follow through on them.

I didn't promise nuttin.

[speedchuck]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention]

There now appear to be many game-relevant posts on day one. I blame MP, but I'm voting sloonei for now because yolo

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

This is sloppy. Yellow card for you another one and you get my vote.

Golden retrieves my vote.
"pun intended"

Wow that's unexpectedly cool.
This game is a behemoth but I'll try to chime in today.

Sloonei looks bad to me. How he jumped on the bandwagon because I voted for him the previous day.
I just don't like him at all.

Fixed that for you I think.

[Turnip Head]

Get on my wavelength Marmot. We're living a lazyboy's paradise. We can crack this game wide open with one-liners and well timed detective work

[Turnip Head]

tyvm Speedchuck.

[wolbre04]

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine idk why we are going after a wallflower when we have macs hunches still alive

I don't know why you keep calling them Mac's hunches when I clearly called them out first and Mac followed me. Stuff like this is bothersome in that it could explain Mac's death.

Noone should blindly follow the leads of someone who is dead. That's the way you let mafia control the action. It's great as a mafia to kill a strong town lead and then blindly go down their picks.

I want to see discussion not blind devotion.

to be fair..... it wasn't just you and mac running the show here.

I don't understand why people are voting for choutas. I've never played with them before and they're not striking me as bad.

To be fair - that's sort of my point. Accrediting "Mac" as being the only person who has done anything is bothersome to me.

I'm not just blindly following (and wasn't trying to say no one else did anything - Macs list just stood out in my mind more) but lynching a wallflower who hasn't posted is great if he's mafia but provides almost 0 info either way. The only positiveis a dead maf.

[wolbre04]

DADV

[colonialbob]

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?

I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

But those votes were less than an hour apart?

True. I mistakenly thought the poll ended at 5, so I was quick to jump. I realized later that I had another day.

But that doesn't come through in the post at all. Your first post days you're in on LC. If you were concerned about being the only vote there, why put it down in the first place?

Then the second post says "still not happy with LC vote". So aside from the word still, there's no mention of "day is ending" or "I want my vote to be productive". In fact, the first post explicitly calls out the fact that nobody is voting LC, and you still seemed happy with the vote.

[Lunalee]

I don't at this point see dunya as bad but I have previously noted she is also Lunalee compatible so if she is bad, at that point I'd feel very secure that Luna was between her and Colin's conduct.

A Luna vote is still very much on the cards for me.

When I realized that the Oracle was something written by a player, I thought Luna's comment after it might indicate that she is the Oracle role.

Yeah, at the time I didn't understand the oracle role either. It is now much less exciting. :/

[Lunalee]

The votes on Choutas look like a good scum line up to me.

[Tangrowth]

No time for mafia today. Dissertation final draft is due in a couple weeks, and I have to get the newest version to my chair by tomorrow.

I haven't read anything since I last posted, so no idea why Choutas has votes. I'm voting Luna because the more I've thought about it, the more I can see LC's behavior from a possible town perspective (even if I'm hesitant to believe it), same with Sloonei (especially if he really is just a super busy townie), but I can't say I feel the same about Luna. Her reads and behavior seem, even if green, opportunistic for lack of a better word. There's no clear evidence of why she suspects or townreads anyone, and her reads IIRC have shifted in a suspicious manner.

I'll be back later in full swing, promise, sorry. This is a crucial day for me.

[Spacedaisy]

Just so you all know, I'm working on a catch up right now. I am here, I swear. I'm on like page 30.

[Turnip Head]

The votes on Choutas look like a good scum line up to me.

haha

Jajajaa

HahaHaHAAA

MmmmmmmWuahahahahahahahahahahava :fe-

[Turnip Head]

Also-- school has started for me again. I'll be much busier than I was this past week.

Please don't forsake me senpai

[Scotty]

I just perused Colin’s ISO and am noting that Colin’s primary suspect out of Luna was D1. It could have been a throw-away vote onto a teammate, but then he continues to hit home his suspicion of her before he even accrues votes in D2.

That doesn’t seem like teammate compatible behavior.

The following is his first player salad post on d1. If im not mistaken, I think he mostly listed the players with votes at the time. Except a few of them never garnered any votes as far as I know, so...????
Im going to remove the names and just look at context clues to determine how genuine he seems. I’m including my opinions after each person:

Some thoughts:

{Person A}’s drunk posts make me read him as town, simply because I don't think a scum would try to play drunk. I'll stand corrected if anybody can counter.

Starting off a player salad with a civ read first and foremost leans good for this person. That it’s me is only icing on the cake.

Between {Person B} and {Person C}, I'm more impressed by {Person B}. He's my strongest town read right now, I think he's digging pretty deep into posts and asking good questions. On the other side, I don't know how {Person C} plays but but I think the defense of "this is my meta, you should believe me" is pretty weak.

Grade A label on Person B is a great sign for Person B. Also it’s Mac. Person C is the first criticism he has for someone. ‘Pretty weak’ is a pretty weak descriptor for someone and I think this is a pretty weak baddie lean for Person C, who is Golden, just in context here.

I always have a really hard time getting a read on {Player D}. Same for {Player E} in this game — I think he legitimately believes Golden is town, but that's all I can really feel from his posts.

Odd that he lumped in Player D and Player E into the same paragraph talking about how he can’t read them, but then expands on only Player E. Why even include Player D at all? Scummiest angle so far on Player D, who is dunya. Player E is only a mild civ lean, since he bothered to include it and handpicked one moment as explanation. Player E is MP.

I don't really get why {Player F} voted for me in particular, and I also think it's weird that he said the same thing I did in the post in question.

Player F is already voting for Colin, so it appears they’re already at odds. I actually don’t see a strong indicator for teammate alignment with this post in particular. Player F is Sloonei.

{Player G} feels town to me, really clear-cut contributions that I agree with but I haven't played with him in so long that I can't remember what he plays like.

Strong civ defense of this person 7 players down the player salad is slightly concerning, but he uses similar descriptors to Player B, who we can safely assume was civ (Mac). So I’m actually leaning slight civ on this person. Player G is choutas

I have no idea what {Player H} is doing.

And I have no idea why you even included this person here. I would normally say this is mild scummy look on Person H, but then it’s Epi. So nevermind

Player D looks suspicious in this context. I’ll have to dig deeper into dunya (starring Jason Bateman, coming soon to a theater near you)