U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Game Over

[Quin]

She's saying it's handpicked because the player sends in the role, so Mac knows who it is if he constructs particular roles into particular teams.

Oh.

Before the game began I actually believed there'd be a good chance I'd end up on a mafia team, or at least non-civilian, because of the role I submitted. I didn't envision Mac specifically selecting JJJ for such an alignment, but the role I selected. And if all the selected roles are mixed up in a cauldron and extracted for alignments, they don't necessarily have to be attached to the submitting player as Mac is building the game.

We know now that it was all randomized. I couldn't be confident of that though until I saw my own civilian alignment. dunya, I don't think you had the same luxury because Lizzy the cat does not imply any kind of morality or alignment posture.

I believe the roles are randomised simply because I believe they should be. Handpicking player alignments is a kind of taboo for me as a host. I have no problems with dunya's view on it.

[Quin]

I might be misunderstanding her perspective.

[Quin]

No I'm not. Good day.

[Epignosis]

Dear Diary,

It's been four days since we left Colorado. And there's still a stretch ahead of us on the road. Our time in San Diego was rough, and now San Fransisco is before us.

Shark has been tough throughout the years, but the years have been weighing on him. I hate to say that about anybody, but a lefty like me can knock someone like Shark around if he gets sloppy.

DJ is hurt, but I think we'll get along okay. We've got Nolan and Trevor. The wind is blowing out about 19mph. I know that doesn't mean much here in San Fran, but we're going to try to make it work for us all the same.

Wish us luck.

XOXO
Charlie

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I believe the roles are randomised simply because I believe they should be. Handpicking player alignments is a kind of taboo for me as a host. I have no problems with dunya's view on it.

I agree that they should be. That doesn't mean it's completely obvious that they are. Do you disagree with that?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Epi is playing Oregon Trail?

[Quin]

I believe the roles are randomised simply because I believe they should be. Handpicking player alignments is a kind of taboo for me as a host. I have no problems with dunya's view on it.

I agree that they should be. That doesn't mean it's completely obvious that they are. Do you disagree with that?

Out of baseless expectation, yes. "It should be, therefore it is." dunya is not being unreasonable. And from her posts she's not stopping you from pushing the alternative either.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Out of baseless expectation, yes. "It should be, therefore it is." dunya is not being unreasonable. And from her posts she's not stopping you from pushing the alternative either.

I don't care about any alternative being pushed or not pushed. I just care about a player knowing more than she should. She knew way more than she should about the Hellenic League and nobody called it out. I'm here to fix that this time.

[Quin]

Out of baseless expectation, yes. "It should be, therefore it is." dunya is not being unreasonable. And from her posts she's not stopping you from pushing the alternative either.

I don't care about any alternative being pushed or not pushed. I just care about a player knowing more than she should. She knew way more than she should about the Hellenic League and nobody called it out. I'm here to fix that this time.

Is this your interpretation of her argument or do you have posts you can pull that tell you this?

[Quin]

jay going after me, the most vocal in the thread, on day 0....and breaking his monotonous roleplay....is probably civ jay tho.

he probably hated me calling him lame for choosing an easy role that makes one intentionally apathetic to the game. like how he hated me for calling his detective work in seinfeld weak and going after me for it. these little silly things make jay an angry jay bear. it's fun.

Also agree this is an indicator of civ Jay, incidentally.

[Quin]

Hey, I have reads.

dunya
3j

golden

[speedchuck]

Hey, I have reads.

dunya
3j

golden

GenuQuin.

(gets lynched)

[Quin]

Hey, I have reads.

dunya
3j

golden

GenuQuin.

(gets lynched)

Quinfoil
GenuQuin
Quindar

These will sure be added to the Syndicate dictionary with time.

[speedchuck]

Hey, I have reads.

dunya
3j

golden

GenuQuin.

(gets lynched)

Quinfoil
GenuQuin
Quindar

These will sure be added to the Syndicate dictionary with time.

I'm responsible for those second two I think. The first one is genius.

[Turnip Head]

Roles that can kill should start doing it right away. Like immediately upon reading this post if you can do it. I'm not going to be able to keep up with a 300 page thread by the time I get out of work tomorrow so we better thin the ranks now.

this

[Quin]

Hey, I have reads.

dunya
3j

golden

GenuQuin.

(gets lynched)

Quinfoil
GenuQuin
Quindar

These will sure be added to the Syndicate dictionary with time.

I'm responsible for those second two I think. The first one is genius.

We can thank Sloonei for that one.

[speedchuck]

Roles that can kill should start doing it right away. Like immediately upon reading this post if you can do it. I'm not going to be able to keep up with a 300 page thread by the time I get out of work tomorrow so we better thin the ranks now.

this

Disagreed.

Even if you can't keep up. Give everyone a chance to meme.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Out of baseless expectation, yes. "It should be, therefore it is." dunya is not being unreasonable. And from her posts she's not stopping you from pushing the alternative either.

I don't care about any alternative being pushed or not pushed. I just care about a player knowing more than she should. She knew way more than she should about the Hellenic League and nobody called it out. I'm here to fix that this time.

Is this your interpretation of her argument or do you have posts you can pull that tell you this?

second of all, what the explicit does your character have to do with your actual role? mac built roles for every character but where you're scum or town is always randomized on here so the argument "my character looks so townie" is moot.

I already told wolbre that characters we chose =/= alignment.

i wrote it off because mac uses a randomizer. why are you trying to distract us into theorizing about whether mac handpicked scum teams? eh no thx. that's lame. mother teresa could be on the scum team for all i care and i'm not budging from that. if you're so concerned about it, why don't you push that conversation into the thread? why are you acting like i'm silencing you? it's ridiculous.

i don't buy your arguments. i don't buy your logic. i don't buy your fake outrage. you're a bad bullshitter. but pls consider that a compliment cos you were an amazing townie last game.

dude, what are you smoking? is it the weekend in new zealand already?

i simply dismissed your theory that "you're squeaky clean" cos of your "super duper town sounding role". you're bitter about it, obviously, but that won't help me change my mind.

i told you Mac would randomize that shit. handpicking is the lamest poop on earth, if it's not a player draft, and i refuse to play a game where people were specifically chosen into their alliances. sorry, not sorry. that's a crappy way to determine luck and chances. you're set on proving that you picked a town role that can never not be town, under any circumstances, and you don't think that sounds bad? like, put yourself in my shoes, and imagine i was doing what you're doing right now.

theorize about it all you want, with people who agree with you. i'm not wasting my time on that. and stop acting like i'm bulling you into silence. you're free to say whatever the hell you want and i'm free to disagree with you as much as i like.

Apparently Mac is a predictable host. He falls into obvious cookie-cutter tendencies.

yea, my human slave has known mac for 8 years and she says he's batshit crazy so it actually sounds like something he could do...

Er.

Okay.

[Turnip Head]

Dear Diary,

It's been four days since we left Colorado. And there's still a stretch ahead of us on the road. Our time in San Diego was rough, and now San Fransisco is before us.

Shark has been tough throughout the years, but the years have been weighing on him. I hate to say that about anybody, but a lefty like me can knock someone like Shark around if he gets sloppy.

DJ is hurt, but I think we'll get along okay. We've got Nolan and Trevor. The wind is blowing out about 19mph. I know that doesn't mean much here in San Fran, but we're going to try to make it work for us all the same.

Wish us luck.

XOXO
Charlie

new phone who dis?

[Turnip Head]

Roles that can kill should start doing it right away. Like immediately upon reading this post if you can do it. I'm not going to be able to keep up with a 300 page thread by the time I get out of work tomorrow so we better thin the ranks now.

this

Disagreed.

Even if you can't keep up. Give everyone a chance to meme.

I'm clearly memeing ^^ so I'm well within the rules of this circus affair

[Quin]

Out of baseless expectation, yes. "It should be, therefore it is." dunya is not being unreasonable. And from her posts she's not stopping you from pushing the alternative either.

I don't care about any alternative being pushed or not pushed. I just care about a player knowing more than she should. She knew way more than she should about the Hellenic League and nobody called it out. I'm here to fix that this time.

Is this your interpretation of her argument or do you have posts you can pull that tell you this?

second of all, what the explicit does your character have to do with your actual role? mac built roles for every character but where you're scum or town is always randomized on here so the argument "my character looks so townie" is moot.

I already told wolbre that characters we chose =/= alignment.

i wrote it off because mac uses a randomizer. why are you trying to distract us into theorizing about whether mac handpicked scum teams? eh no thx. that's lame. mother teresa could be on the scum team for all i care and i'm not budging from that. if you're so concerned about it, why don't you push that conversation into the thread? why are you acting like i'm silencing you? it's ridiculous.

i don't buy your arguments. i don't buy your logic. i don't buy your fake outrage. you're a bad bullshitter. but pls consider that a compliment cos you were an amazing townie last game.

dude, what are you smoking? is it the weekend in new zealand already?

i simply dismissed your theory that "you're squeaky clean" cos of your "super duper town sounding role". you're bitter about it, obviously, but that won't help me change my mind.

i told you Mac would randomize that shit. handpicking is the lamest poop on earth, if it's not a player draft, and i refuse to play a game where people were specifically chosen into their alliances. sorry, not sorry. that's a crappy way to determine luck and chances. you're set on proving that you picked a town role that can never not be town, under any circumstances, and you don't think that sounds bad? like, put yourself in my shoes, and imagine i was doing what you're doing right now.

theorize about it all you want, with people who agree with you. i'm not wasting my time on that. and stop acting like i'm bulling you into silence. you're free to say whatever the hell you want and i'm free to disagree with you as much as i like.

Apparently Mac is a predictable host. He falls into obvious cookie-cutter tendencies.

yea, my human slave has known mac for 8 years and she says he's batshit crazy so it actually sounds like something he could do...

Er.

Okay.

I would say Mac is chaotic neutral. If Macdougall is the host, I'd think he'd tweak alignments to avoid an overwhelmingly powerful team. But this is also a bastard game through and through. I don't think he'd bother because of that. Do you?

The coloured is why I suspect Golden, by the way. I also felt him trying to buddy me earlier.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would say Mac is chaotic neutral. If Macdougall is the host, I'd think he'd tweak alignments to avoid an overwhelmingly powerful team. But this is also a bastard game through and through. I don't think he'd bother because of that. Do you?

The coloured is why I suspect Golden, by the way. I also felt him trying to buddy me earlier.

I don't care what Mac would or wouldn't do. That doesn't help us solve. He already told us he randomized.

What I'm trying to get across is that dunya had no reason to be so certain that Mac randomized before he told us that.

[Quin]

I would say Mac is chaotic neutral. If Macdougall is the host, I'd think he'd tweak alignments to avoid an overwhelmingly powerful team. But this is also a bastard game through and through. I don't think he'd bother because of that. Do you?

The coloured is why I suspect Golden, by the way. I also felt him trying to buddy me earlier.

I don't care what Mac would or wouldn't do. That doesn't help us solve. He already told us he randomized.

What I'm trying to get across is that dunya had no reason to be so certain that Mac randomized before he told us that.

Didn't know he confirmed it. But I still don't fault dunya. I'd have dug my heels in too.

[Quin]

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

[Epignosis]

Dear Diary,

Off to a GREAT start.

XOXO
Charlie

[Turnip Head]

So [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] myJay you're implying she had some *naughty* help coming to that conclusion?

I mean we're obviously dealing with a sociopath here. Would she make the same misyaje twice?

[Turnip Head]

Dear Diary,

Off to a GREAT start.

XOXO
Charlie

Where did I find this book and how do I return it?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So @JaggedJimmyJay myJay you're implying she had some *naughty* help coming to that conclusion?

I mean we're obviously dealing with a sociopath here. Would she make the same misyaje twice?

I'm concerned she may have already known the answer because she has a teammate whose goodly-inclined role made it clear that alignment and role submission did not correlate. She couldn't have guessed from her own role since Lizzy the cat comes with no implications.

She'd make the same mistake twice if she didn't realize it was a mistake the first time.

[Turnip Head]

She'd make the same mistake twice if she didn't realize it was a mistake the first time.

sxandalous

[novaselinenever]

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

What exactly in his interaction with Colin piqued your scumdar?

Also, what do you make of Colin from the same interaction?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

What exactly in his interaction with Colin piqued your scumdar?

Also, what do you make of Colin from the same interaction?

I felt their argument was more semantic than substantive, and Golden's accusations that Colin was misrepresenting him fell flat with me.

I have no issue with Colin to this point.

What are your own reads on both?

[novaselinenever]

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

What exactly in his interaction with Colin piqued your scumdar?

Also, what do you make of Colin from the same interaction?

I felt their argument was more semantic than substantive, and Golden's accusations that Colin was misrepresenting him fell flat with me.

I have no issue with Colin to this point.

What are your own reads on both?

Overall, I like both of them so far. Golden more than Coling, though. Townies that are calling out what they see and aren't scared of being wrong. I don't enjoy much the mechanical aspect of solving the game since it's very NAI for me, but they seem to be taking it to heart.

One thing about Colin, though. I'm not following Colin's attempt to enter the interaction between Dunya and Golden. I didn't like that and it felt out of place. It was also as non-committal as it can be, because he admitted not having followed it entirely. So he didn't know the origin of their disagreement and thus whole conversation.

Golden narrative that about Dunya trying to control the flow of the game, and not letting other vocal townies lead, rubbed me wrong tbh tbf. I didn't get that from her posts and he might have been doing what he accused her of.

What about Dunya?

[Marmot]

I see I'm not the only one up for a lynching of me.

Also, I'm crossing the US to visit my family tomorrow through Monday, so my availability might be intermittent.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[novaselinenever]

What's the deal with DDL? What does this entrance mean, lol?

[colonialbob]

I feel good about Kyle's contributions. I was worried he'd be burned out, but I feel like I have the real Kyle here with us atm.

Not Burnout. :\ Mario Party 6.

Underappreciated joke here

[colonialbob]

I feel good about Kyle's contributions. I was worried he'd be burned out, but I feel like I have the real Kyle here with us atm.

Not Burnout. :\ Mario Party 6.

I know you're up to something whimsical, this is me biting early.

Turnip Head... do you want to play a game?

can I play, too? :o

you can but you'll have to wait your turn, i didn't bring enough controllers

>Mario party
>only 2 controllers

[Turnip Head]

I feel good about Kyle's contributions. I was worried he'd be burned out, but I feel like I have the real Kyle here with us atm.

Not Burnout. :\ Mario Party 6.

I know you're up to something whimsical, this is me biting early.

Turnip Head... do you want to play a game?

can I play, too? :o

you can but you'll have to wait your turn, i didn't bring enough controllers

>Mario party
>only 2 controllers

wowwwwwwww this is def a scumslip.

[colonialbob]

People can make all the reads they want.

What I see from dunya is an unwillingness to let other strong personalities drive the town narrative.

In particular, the 'you pick your role, not your affiliation' line that she's trotting out multiple times is terrible. I've pointed out to her how you can use your choice of role to influence your likely affiliation, and she wrote it off with a dismissal. For a town player who asks a lot of questions, that ought to have been a feast for thought and an avenue for genuine consideration and prodding.

Do not like

[colonialbob]

I am entertaining dunya and Golden as being on opposing mafia teams.

Most interesting read I've seen so far

You're gonna destroy that aloof French existentialist vibe if you keep this up

[colonialbob]

But I would like more input re: wolbre and the alleged Boobquest please and thank you.

Why would he lie about this?

[colonialbob]

10. I will probably not reveal the roles and alignments of the deceased. Haven't decided yet. I might with lynches only.

Just saw this. Janitored kills are bad enough, please don’t leave lynches blind too. It’s what I crave

Lol rip this game if there's no reveals on a random set of roles

[Kylemii]

I feel good about Kyle's contributions. I was worried he'd be burned out, but I feel like I have the real Kyle here with us atm.

Not Burnout. :\ Mario Party 6.

Underappreciated joke here

thank you :')

>Mario party
>only 2 controllers

actually, this is a little unrelated but i used to play mario party 6 alone against the cpus all the time when i was... wow i guess i was 15? i probably spent like 200 hours on that game cus i was a huge weirdo, but i remember it being a little fun.

[colonialbob]

I've never played a bastard game before to my knowledge so I really don't know what goes and what doesn't in them, btw.

Basically, roles that could be called “bullshit.”

Vig that can take out three players in a night, goon that’s part of a mason team, cops that only get “mafia” results, etc.

Civ/mafia BTSC is one of my favorite things

[MacDougall]

10. I will probably not reveal the roles and alignments of the deceased. Haven't decided yet. I might with lynches only.

Just saw this. Janitored kills are bad enough, please don’t leave lynches blind too. It’s what I crave

Lol rip this game if there's no reveals on a random set of roles

You are also in trouble now.

[colonialbob]

Not voting Quin, turnip, wolbre, epi today

[colonialbob]

10. I will probably not reveal the roles and alignments of the deceased. Haven't decided yet. I might with lynches only.

Just saw this. Janitored kills are bad enough, please don’t leave lynches blind too. It’s what I crave

Lol rip this game if there's no reveals on a random set of roles

You are also in trouble now.

I deserve this

real talk though, sorry if this was insulting. I didn't mean it that way and sincerely apologize if I was an ass.

[MacDougall]

That's fine just learn from your lessons and be a good boy and I won't have to put you in Time Out.

Trust me. You don't want to go to Time Out.

[MacDougall]

Does anyone know how to fix the time on the poll? It's sort of locked into the time that I originally created it because it goes up in days not hours/minutes and you can't set the time it finishes specifically?

It needs to not be what it is.