U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Game Over

[Lilefer]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

[Quin]

how can a gth read be worth more than a regular civ read tho

[sig]

[mention]dunya[/mention] why am I a civ read.

[Quin]

how can a gth read be worth more than a regular civ read tho

same with scum gth too

[sig]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Be warned sig has a different meta on every site he plays on. You won't see me be very aggressive here ect. If i were you I'd not compare my gtf meta, but my MU meta. It's more accurate to my overall playstyle

[Lilefer]

[VOTE: Lilifer] aubergine
Get in here boy

@ me hoe, even if I'm busy I still check notifs. Also I'm not your dog lol my username is Lilefer not Luke. I guess I'm here now so wish granted.

[Turnip Head]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

you coulda just said "no u"

[Turnip Head]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Be warned sig has a different meta on every site he plays on. You won't see me be very aggressive here ect. If i were you I'd not compare my gtf meta, but my MU meta. It's more accurate to my overall playstyle

plz don't get killed early again siggyboy Even back when I played regularly, it always seemed like you died tragically early in games we played together. I want to see you frolic

[Marmot]

Or riced cauliflower pizza crust?

colonialbob is a civilian.

[Turnip Head]

Or riced cauliflower pizza crust?

colonialbo0b is a civilian.

and possible tit target

[Lilefer]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Be warned sig has a different meta on every site he plays on. You won't see me be very aggressive here ect. If i were you I'd not compare my gtf meta, but my MU meta. It's more accurate to my overall playstyle

I have opinions about this post but I need to catch up to see if they are justified.

[sig]

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Be warned sig has a different meta on every site he plays on. You won't see me be very aggressive here ect. If i were you I'd not compare my gtf meta, but my MU meta. It's more accurate to my overall playstyle

plz don't get killed early again siggyboy Even back when I played regularly, it always seemed like you died tragically early in games we played together. I want to see you frolic

I only survive to end game here when I'm a civ role that fucks up the game for us and i always still die early when I'm a good civ role. ;(

I never die as mafia but I haven't rolled mafia here in like 2ish years.

[sig]

But ill florlic away when I'm alive

[sig]

But ill florlic away when I'm alive

Frolic

[Lilefer]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

[mention]sig[/mention] Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

[sig]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

No

[Marmot]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

Are you a member of mafia?

[Lilefer]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

Are you a member of mafia?

No, and I'm glad I'm not. I've only played scum once and it was thoroughly unenjoyable.

[sig]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

Are you a member of mafia?

No, and I'm glad I'm not. I've only played scum once and it was thoroughly unenjoyable.

Yeah lilefer is usually bad as mafia, But with a vet team and the different culture that we've got here id not discount him.

Civ wise it becomes semi apparent to tell by the first few phases I'd say.

[sig]

@w[mention]wolbre04[/mention] feel free to chime in with a meta read of him if ya haven't already.

[sig]

And by feel free I mean do it or I'll eat your flesh.

[juliets]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

So far I'm seeing the same sig I've seen when he's been lynched for being mafia and is instead civ. What are you seeing that convinces you he is mafia?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have some suspicion of Lilefer.

They get lynch immunity though for Day 1.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention], FYI a few of the player post history links aren’t working. I believe that happens if the link is created before they made any posts.

[dunya]

MacDougall, FYI a few of the player post history links aren’t working. I believe that happens if the link is created before they made any posts.

It's only Eloh cos her name was typed wrong, my apologies.

here's the correct iso [mention]MacDougall[/mention]

Elohcin

[dunya]

I have some suspicion of Lilefer.

tell me more about them.

[Lilefer]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

So far I'm seeing the same sig I've seen when he's been lynched for being mafia and is instead civ. What are you seeing that convinces you he is mafia?

His eagerness to disconnect himself from previous games I've played with him, when he was scum in all of them (except one maybe?)

He was even scum the one game I played with him on MU.

Anyway, I wouldn't say I'm convinced he's mafia, I would say I'm unconvinced that he's town. That's all.

[dunya]

@dunya why am I a civ read.

tone read; you're posting without any reservations; you're spreading your reads to cover a multitude of people and not taking any easy ways into the discussions readily available; you're offering both civ and scum reads; you're not plating those reads with safety cushions at the back; you're butting into other people's conversations ; all in all: you're authentic and natural.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Actually Elohcin was the ISO I was trying to open. Good call.

I am not reading 12 pages of Day 0. WTF people.

I'm calling this non-alignment indicative. Indeed, I believe she posted something similar in Mortal Kombat expressly because she knew it was something she'd say as a civilian. I gave her erroneous credit then which I will not do now, but nor will I consider this to be an alarm bell. It is nothing.

Hot take Eloh is bad kkbye

Not too sure if I comprehend this post correctly. But if nutella is saying I am bad, I don't care. She always sees me as bad so it means nothing to me.

This I don't like.

First, the uncertain comprehension is hard to take seriously.

nutella, literally: Eloh is bad

Eloh: if nutella is saying I'm bad...

Then the highlighted bit served as my initial ping. Something I associate with mafia-aligned Elohcin is a tendency to discard suspicion leveled upon her given her genuine belief that it is fallacious and should not indicate her alignment (even when in my opinion it really should) -- she engages in caught for the wrong reasons frequently. In this case it's not a clear parallel, because she isn't speaking to the specific reasons for nutella's suspicion. The immediate discard is bothersome though.

[dunya]

good leans (from best to least best):
Turnip Head (GTH)

imma wear this like a scarlet fuckin letter

[dunya]

Actually Elohcin was the ISO I was trying to open. Good call.

I am not reading 12 pages of Day 0. WTF people.

I'm calling this non-alignment indicative. Indeed, I believe she posted something similar in Mortal Kombat expressly because she knew it was something she'd say as a civilian. I gave her erroneous credit then which I will not do now, but nor will I consider this to be an alarm bell. It is nothing.

Hot take Eloh is bad kkbye

Not too sure if I comprehend this post correctly. But if nutella is saying I am bad, I don't care. She always sees me as bad so it means nothing to me.

This I don't like.

First, the uncertain comprehension is hard to take seriously.

nutella, literally: Eloh is bad

Eloh: if nutella is saying I'm bad...

Then the highlighted bit served as my initial ping. Something I associate with mafia-aligned Elohcin is a tendency to discard suspicion leveled upon her given her genuine belief that it is fallacious and should not indicate her alignment (even when in my opinion it really should) -- she engages in caught for the wrong reasons frequently. In this case it's not a clear parallel, because she isn't speaking to the specific reasons for nutella's suspicion. The immediate discard is bothersome though.

pretty much. i wonder why eloh didn't try to ask why nutella felt that way.

[Quin]

Actually Elohcin was the ISO I was trying to open. Good call.

I am not reading 12 pages of Day 0. WTF people.

I'm calling this non-alignment indicative. Indeed, I believe she posted something similar in Mortal Kombat expressly because she knew it was something she'd say as a civilian. I gave her erroneous credit then which I will not do now, but nor will I consider this to be an alarm bell. It is nothing.

Hot take Eloh is bad kkbye

Not too sure if I comprehend this post correctly. But if nutella is saying I am bad, I don't care. She always sees me as bad so it means nothing to me.

This I don't like.

First, the uncertain comprehension is hard to take seriously.

nutella, literally: Eloh is bad

Eloh: if nutella is saying I'm bad...

Then the highlighted bit served as my initial ping. Something I associate with mafia-aligned Elohcin is a tendency to discard suspicion leveled upon her given her genuine belief that it is fallacious and should not indicate her alignment (even when in my opinion it really should) -- she engages in caught for the wrong reasons frequently. In this case it's not a clear parallel, because she isn't speaking to the specific reasons for nutella's suspicion. The immediate discard is bothersome though.

Funny that you see it essentially the opposite way I do. When she does this on the offensive, I see a scum Eloh. When it's on the defensive, not so much.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have some suspicion of Lilefer.

tell me more about them.

A few posts I found suspicious at face value:

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

The first one just looks phony to me as does the highlighted bit in the second one.

This kind of thing lends itself to lynch immunity though (albeit not for the same reason I grant it) -- new people tend to get lynched for saying Weird Things at a low success rate. I will continue to monitor.

[juliets]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

So far I'm seeing the same sig I've seen when he's been lynched for being mafia and is instead civ. What are you seeing that convinces you he is mafia?

His eagerness to disconnect himself from previous games I've played with him, when he was scum in all of them (except one maybe?)

He was even scum the one game I played with him on MU.

Anyway, I wouldn't say I'm convinced he's mafia, I would say I'm unconvinced that he's town. That's all.

Ok thanks, I misread and thought you were saying he was bad.

I just can't help being still nervous about INH this morning.

I'm going to place a vote there and see if he comes and convinces me he's not bad.

JJJ I like your analysis of Eloh's post. I am waiting to see more behavior from her.

[VOTE: INH] aubergine

[dunya]

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

So far I'm seeing the same sig I've seen when he's been lynched for being mafia and is instead civ. What are you seeing that convinces you he is mafia?

His eagerness to disconnect himself from previous games I've played with him, when he was scum in all of them (except one maybe?)

He was even scum the one game I played with him on MU.

sig has never been scum here, and he often (like literally almost always since it's a running gag) gets mislynched early because he's easy to suspect.

i understand where he's coming from when he says he would have different metas on different forums. I played a wholly different game on naruto forums because the environment and tone of people there is different than this place. I am not triggered by sig when he says this, especially considering how often he's been mislynched on here.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Funny that you see it essentially the opposite way I do. When she does this on the offensive, I see a scum Eloh. When it's on the defensive, not so much.

Elohcin and I have been mafia teammates three times, so she's certainly one I pay attention to. I wouldn't say "defensive Elohcin is bad", but rather "a dismissively or incredulous defensive Elohcin is bad" -- stemming from her handling of my bussing accusations in Syndicate Mafia 1, Matt's accusations against her in Transistor, and dunya's accusations against her in Mountains.

[Lilefer]

I have some suspicion of Lilefer.

tell me more about them.

A few posts I found suspicious at face value:

Hello hello, checking in, I have 18 pages to catch up on but I'm free all day unlike yesterday so that's good !!

That's the hello of a mafia member.

I haven't read enough of your posts to know, but this is something scum sig would say on GTF. Although, I have still never seen civ sig so who tf knows. That was a useless train of thought. Anyway, I'm catching up but can you give me an overview?

Okay I got to page 17 I'm sure my knowledge of the situation is good enough for now.

@sig Convince me you aren't trying to distract me from your normal playstyle to cover up the fact that you're dirty scum xo

The first one just looks phony to me as does the highlighted bit in the second one.

This kind of thing lends itself to lynch immunity though (albeit not for the same reason I grant it) -- new people tend to get lynched for saying Weird Things at a low success rate. I will continue to monitor.

Fair. My tone probably doesn't cater to Syndicate. I encountered the same issue playing on MU.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Fair. My tone probably doesn't cater to Syndicate. I encountered the same issue playing on MU.

You just do ya thang and we'll see how it goes. I don't lynch newcomers on the first day of their first game.

[Quin]

Funny that you see it essentially the opposite way I do. When she does this on the offensive, I see a scum Eloh. When it's on the defensive, not so much.

Elohcin and I have been mafia teammates three times, so she's certainly one I pay attention to. I wouldn't say "defensive Elohcin is bad", but rather "a dismissively or incredulous defensive Elohcin is bad" -- stemming from her handling of my bussing accusations in Syndicate Mafia 1, Matt's accusations against her in Transistor, and dunya's accusations against her in Mountains.

I've never been her teammate. But I do think Eloh is one of the players I'm able to read most easily. So I'll call her good right now and move on.


...to bed.

[Quin]

nevermind she was bad when i subbed into mad max and i immediately ran her down in my motorcycle

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Apart from merely being quiet, I've a reason for concern regarding INH.

U-Pick Vol 1 (INH is unknown)

Dunya being annoyed by Golden is reminding me of my treatment of Golden waaaay back in Red vs. Blue, which might've been the last game I played with him. Lots of "stop trying to get the thread to strictly buy into certain viewpoints," followed by "that's not what I'm doing, you obviously don't know my meta." After a bunch of non-stop thread sniping and bickering, it turns out we were potential civvie BTSC partners. (Weeeell, that wasn't the whole story. He was actually an undercover LMS indie. That game really fucked me over.)

Nevertheless, I'm currently reading both Dunya and Golden as town.

Assassination Classroom (INH is mafia)

Who is we lynchin INH?

Dunno. I utterly suck at early-game read divination, so I plan on following people I think seem like gen-u-ine townies. I've been getting good vibes from you, JJJ, and Dys. Someone not checking their role PM before posting would draw my ire if it was anyone other than Scotty.

Evil INH has shown a willingness to hand out easy civilian reads to highly active players in the earliest stages -- something I don't recall seeing much of from his civilian self.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

[juliets]

Apart from merely being quiet, I've a reason for concern regarding INH.

U-Pick Vol 1 (INH is unknown)

Dunya being annoyed by Golden is reminding me of my treatment of Golden waaaay back in Red vs. Blue, which might've been the last game I played with him. Lots of "stop trying to get the thread to strictly buy into certain viewpoints," followed by "that's not what I'm doing, you obviously don't know my meta." After a bunch of non-stop thread sniping and bickering, it turns out we were potential civvie BTSC partners. (Weeeell, that wasn't the whole story. He was actually an undercover LMS indie. That game really fucked me over.)

Nevertheless, I'm currently reading both Dunya and Golden as town.

Assassination Classroom (INH is mafia)

Who is we lynchin INH?

Dunno. I utterly suck at early-game read divination, so I plan on following people I think seem like gen-u-ine townies. I've been getting good vibes from you, JJJ, and Dys. Someone not checking their role PM before posting would draw my ire if it was anyone other than Scotty.

Evil INH has shown a willingness to hand out easy civilian reads to highly active players in the earliest stages -- something I don't recall seeing much of from his civilian self.

Interesting point that reinforces my nervousness.

Will be back later.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To be fair, I also looked at the GOC and didn't see the same from INH (in that game he made pretty much no reads at all on Day 1). It's a highly specific notion.

[Long Con]

Lc seems really lighthearted this game, usually civ or mafia i get an almost sinister vibe from his posts lile he's scheming to blow up new york or paris from his evil underground lair located somewhere either under the sea or vermont since nobody would look for an evil lair there.

I'd peg him as a 3p or light civ right now.

Well, there's always a scheme going on somewhere in this crazy head. I'm lighthearted I guess. I have skipped small chunks of the game a couple of times in order to try to stay current... had Video Game Night with my boys last night, so I didn't check in at all. It's a chaotic hullabaloo to me, I'm just along for the ride until something hooks me.

[Marmot]

Fair. My tone probably doesn't cater to Syndicate. I encountered the same issue playing on MU.

Pls don't be upset with me if I lynch you. It's for the greater boob.

[Long Con]

Golden, do you think in a game of role madness we'd have someone who could investigate me and see i'm civ-aligned right? you'd think after all the shit I did till now, I'd be a pretty good target for someone with an investigative ability. do you really want to lynch a civ-dunya on day 1 without giving me a chance?

Hate the cop check argument, you could have a role that checks green regardless/teammates role or any amount of other night actions could mess with the cops ability.

I'm curious though there doesn't seem to be a movement to lynch you and you've only got one vote, why are you dealing in this type of what if scenario?

Did dunya ask to be role-checked in order to prove her civviness?

I'm actually not high as it happens but I am making meringues

More like... marijuangues.

[Long Con]

Apart from merely being quiet, I've a reason for concern regarding INH.

U-Pick Vol 1 (INH is unknown)

Dunya being annoyed by Golden is reminding me of my treatment of Golden waaaay back in Red vs. Blue, which might've been the last game I played with him. Lots of "stop trying to get the thread to strictly buy into certain viewpoints," followed by "that's not what I'm doing, you obviously don't know my meta." After a bunch of non-stop thread sniping and bickering, it turns out we were potential civvie BTSC partners. (Weeeell, that wasn't the whole story. He was actually an undercover LMS indie. That game really fucked me over.)

Nevertheless, I'm currently reading both Dunya and Golden as town.

Assassination Classroom (INH is mafia)

Who is we lynchin INH?

Dunno. I utterly suck at early-game read divination, so I plan on following people I think seem like gen-u-ine townies. I've been getting good vibes from you, JJJ, and Dys. Someone not checking their role PM before posting would draw my ire if it was anyone other than Scotty.

Evil INH has shown a willingness to hand out easy civilian reads to highly active players in the earliest stages -- something I don't recall seeing much of from his civilian self.

Interesting point that reinforces my nervousness.

Will be back later.

This is a little meaty. Thanks JJJ, I know you didn't want to try. Can't help it, eh?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

when are you gonna post about anything unrelated to me, Golden? there's 2 scum teams. chop chop.

how does the red statemeny relate to the pink statement

golden thinks i'm scum. i'm telling him to scum hunt some more because the game doesn't end when i'm lynched, there's many more to look for.

Umm... is this as obvious as it seems or am I missing something?

Because that reads like a scumslip.

I hate this. I saw this post and was immediately fired back in time to Phenon Mafia (wherein Golden was mafia):

We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/

I don't read this anywhere.

Vote Dyslexicon

I'm going to read through the original post again, but if you're right this is a great catch. This is what a real slip looks like.

Long story short, Dizzy didn't "slip" and it was a terrible accusation then. It's terrible now too.

dunya could actually be a member of a mafia team in this game and that is still not a "slip". There's an obvious alternative interpretation being ignored.

[colonialbob]

maybe if kites is targeted n1, he knows his attacker and has immunity and they have some kind of mason btsc thing. it's likely.

i'm civ reading kites; he wouldn't explode about it as scum.

I could definitely see it as mafia trying to draw the other mafia kill.