U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Game Over

[Scotty]

I feel like Sloonei is playing a subtle jester game

Come on, there’s gotta be a jester in this bastard game

[Scotty]

My jokes > my scumhunting


See: Mortal Kombat, Greece, Image, the entire Hybridity series....

I feel like you’re trying to laugh off the idea of you being the opposite of DDL by dropping some bullshit about killing

It’s like the Chewbacca defense

Dude, if I could disappear people, I’d just disappear DDL and not worry about it.

He claimed that after people disappeared.

Okay.

I’m not sure I follow what you’re trying to say.

Your defense is that you would just disappear DDL isn’t a defense at all.
1) this is in future tense, so maybe you might target him, having nothing to do with your current standoff/my tinfoil and 2) don’t you think DDL’s role would have built-in power to protect against the disappearer?

Because if I’m DDL and know there is a mechanism that disappears people and I’m the one that can save people that get disappeared, in no time would I want to claim early, because obviously I would then be target #1...unless my role blocks that shit outright

[nutella]

I feel like Sloonei is playing a subtle jester game

Come on, there’s gotta be a jester in this bastard game

The thought has occurred to me. By this point it is pretty clear that he is intentionally playing like shit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

I’m having a conversation about game theory. Would you like me to link you to several games where I’ve given this same rant?

[Scotty]

I feel like Sloonei is playing a subtle jester game

Come on, there’s gotta be a jester in this bastard game

The thought has occurred to me. By this point it is pretty clear that he is intentionally playing like shit.

What do you think of my tinfoil?

[Sloonei]

I feel like Sloonei is playing a subtle jester game

Come on, there’s gotta be a jester in this bastard game

What’s this supoosed to mean? Learn to respect your elders!

[Sloonei]

I feel like Sloonei is playing a subtle jester game

Come on, there’s gotta be a jester in this bastard game

The thought has occurred to me. By this point it is pretty clear that he is intentionally playing like shit.

EXCUSE ME!?

[Scotty]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

I’m having a conversation about game theory. Would you like me to link you to several games where I’ve given this same rant?

You’re not directly voting for his lynch, but you’re breaking down his credibility and putting doubt in the thread.

Would you say otherwise?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

[Scotty]

Or Sloonei is mafia playing the jester playing mafia in which case he might last til lylo and we’ll have to lynch him just to be sure.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore. Feels like I'm literally arguing with Luna Lovegood herself. Hardly scummy.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now

[Sloonei]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Why do you have a role that specifically counteracts another bizarre role/mechanic in a game where everyone was supposed to have made up their own roles?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Why do you have a role that specifically counteracts another bizarre role/mechanic in a game where everyone was supposed to have made up their own roles?

Ask Mac not me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

I’m having a conversation about game theory. Would you like me to link you to several games where I’ve given this same rant?

You’re not directly voting for his lynch, but you’re breaking down his credibility and putting doubt in the thread.

Would you say otherwise?

What credibility? He hasn’t done anything.

I’ve stated that I have no intention to lynch him and his power is probably provable. I’ve stated that I think the town should policy lynch anyone claiming survivor early...unless they’re like a rezzer, which DDL is.

I’ve stated I have a hard time believing a last min rezzer insert but that doesn’t override the probability of DDL’s power.

I’ve stated that lynching a claimed survivor in no way “garuntees” that you won’t lynch mafia, which is 100% true and DDL knows it. If there’s an actual reason to lynch DDL, it’s that but I don’t think that overrides the potential utility of his power or the target he’s put on his own back.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

[Scotty]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

I’m having a conversation about game theory. Would you like me to link you to several games where I’ve given this same rant?

You’re not directly voting for his lynch, but you’re breaking down his credibility and putting doubt in the thread.

Would you say otherwise?

What credibility? He hasn’t done anything.

I’ve stated that I have no intention to lynch him and his power is probably provable. I’ve stated that I think the town should policy lynch anyone claiming survivor early...unless they’re like a rezzer, which DDL is.

I’ve stated I have a hard time believing a last min rezzer insert but that doesn’t override the probability of DDL’s power.

I’ve stated that lynching a claimed survivor in no way “garuntees” that you won’t lynch mafia, which is 100% true and DDL knows it. If there’s an actual reason to lynch DDL, it’s that but I don’t think that overrides the potential utility of his power or the target he’s put on his own back.

His claim is the exact something I’m talking about but ok.

Here’s another couple questions- if there is a direct counter to DDL’s role, would you say it’s more likely self-aligned or not? And if he is a redder too, which is a buff for just Survivor, do you think the counter would also be a buffed version of some sort, and what’s would that look like?

You seem to have the most vocal experience with survivors

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

Colin looks worse too especially since he knows what bad dunya looks like from fairly recently with that abysmal vote on me -_-

Colin seems night and day from what he was like in Ancient Greece tho

Colin's mafia experience probably exceeds mine tho. when I started playing mafia on RYM, Colin was already a vet. I'll talk more about what I don't like from Colin specifically some point today when my headache subdues. I hate baseless accusations, so I wouldn't vote for someone without giving them a chance to convince me otherwise.

I started playing a long time ago, but most if not all of the people in this game (minus Lunalee I think) have played in more games, and game variations, than I have, and as you all saw in AG, I am ruuuuuuusty if not outright kinda bad at this. I’m flattered and appreciate the kind words but if I do something and it looks bad in this game it’s probably because I didn’t think about it very hard.

Look at Colin here making excuses in case his posts come across as scummy. I think it's flimsy cover-up

[Long Con]

Something doesn't feel right about this DDL thing.

I found Sig. He's coming back today...

What do you mean you "found" sig? I found him as a disappeared guy right in the nightpost. So you could have "found" him one minute after he was vanished by PMing the host "I find.... SIG!" or something? You're just this immediate canceller of someone else's role who showed up late and came into existence? Like, Mac was already reeling from the negative impact of vanishers on the game, and you're the balancer?

OR did you find sig some other way? Where did you find him then?

Connect the dots for me, please.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

My case is that I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore and you are the asshat who keeps smearing me without actually voting me.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Like I am not happy either by the fact Mac apparently didn't even type the name of my character on Google and instead made a role completely unrelated to her character just so he could balance another role. And actually took a full cycle to get that done.

I wasn't gonna complain about it, but if people are gonna call me scum because they don't think Mac would do that, then yeah I have to say he did.

[Long Con]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Why do you have a role that specifically counteracts another bizarre role/mechanic in a game where everyone was supposed to have made up their own roles?

You got to make up your own role? I just submitted a role name and Mac made my role up from it.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Something doesn't feel right about this DDL thing.

I found Sig. He's coming back today...

What do you mean you "found" sig? I found him as a disappeared guy right in the nightpost. So you could have "found" him one minute after he was vanished by PMing the host "I find.... SIG!" or something? You're just this immediate canceller of someone else's role who showed up late and came into existence? Like, Mac was already reeling from the negative impact of vanishers on the game, and you're the balancer?

OR did you find sig some other way? Where did you find him then?

Connect the dots for me, please.

I targeted Sig and got a message from Mac saying he was found.

He will be released at EoD.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

I’m having a conversation about game theory. Would you like me to link you to several games where I’ve given this same rant?

You’re not directly voting for his lynch, but you’re breaking down his credibility and putting doubt in the thread.

Would you say otherwise?

What credibility? He hasn’t done anything.

I’ve stated that I have no intention to lynch him and his power is probably provable. I’ve stated that I think the town should policy lynch anyone claiming survivor early...unless they’re like a rezzer, which DDL is.

I’ve stated I have a hard time believing a last min rezzer insert but that doesn’t override the probability of DDL’s power.

I’ve stated that lynching a claimed survivor in no way “garuntees” that you won’t lynch mafia, which is 100% true and DDL knows it. If there’s an actual reason to lynch DDL, it’s that but I don’t think that overrides the potential utility of his power or the target he’s put on his own back.

His claim is the exact something I’m talking about but ok.

Here’s another couple questions- if there is a direct counter to DDL’s role, would you say it’s more likely self-aligned or not? And if he is a redder too, which is a buff for just Survivor, do you think the counter would also be a buffed version of some sort, and what’s would that look like?

You seem to have the most vocal experience with survivors

Fuck if I know. I hate survivors. The role card encourages you to coast. If I put one in my game, I put a countering role like a bounty hunter up against it. Something specifically designed to prevent the survivor from coasting or roleclaiming.

[Scotty]

Something doesn't feel right about this DDL thing.

I found Sig. He's coming back today...

What do you mean you "found" sig? I found him as a disappeared guy right in the nightpost. So you could have "found" him one minute after he was vanished by PMing the host "I find.... SIG!" or something? You're just this immediate canceller of someone else's role who showed up late and came into existence? Like, Mac was already reeling from the negative impact of vanishers on the game, and you're the balancer?

OR did you find sig some other way? Where did you find him then?

Connect the dots for me, please.

I targeted Sig and got a message from Mac saying he was found.

He will be released at EoD.

Oh so post lynch? I was under the impression it would be before EoD

[Jackofhearts2005]

So in answer, yeah, 3P.

[Long Con]

Something doesn't feel right about this DDL thing.

I found Sig. He's coming back today...

What do you mean you "found" sig? I found him as a disappeared guy right in the nightpost. So you could have "found" him one minute after he was vanished by PMing the host "I find.... SIG!" or something? You're just this immediate canceller of someone else's role who showed up late and came into existence? Like, Mac was already reeling from the negative impact of vanishers on the game, and you're the balancer?

OR did you find sig some other way? Where did you find him then?

Connect the dots for me, please.

I targeted Sig and got a message from Mac saying he was found.

He will be released at EoD.

Okey dokey. How very simple.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Something doesn't feel right about this DDL thing.

I found Sig. He's coming back today...

What do you mean you "found" sig? I found him as a disappeared guy right in the nightpost. So you could have "found" him one minute after he was vanished by PMing the host "I find.... SIG!" or something? You're just this immediate canceller of someone else's role who showed up late and came into existence? Like, Mac was already reeling from the negative impact of vanishers on the game, and you're the balancer?

OR did you find sig some other way? Where did you find him then?

Connect the dots for me, please.

I targeted Sig and got a message from Mac saying he was found.

He will be released at EoD.

Oh so post lynch? I was under the impression it would be before EoD

It says "at the end of the phase". By my definition that's after the lynch, but if you guys wanna lynch me to test it be my guest.

I'm caring less and less about it with each passing hour.

[ColinIsCool]

Spoiler: show

Colin looks worse too especially since he knows what bad dunya looks like from fairly recently with that abysmal vote on me -_-

Colin seems night and day from what he was like in Ancient Greece tho

Colin's mafia experience probably exceeds mine tho. when I started playing mafia on RYM, Colin was already a vet. I'll talk more about what I don't like from Colin specifically some point today when my headache subdues. I hate baseless accusations, so I wouldn't vote for someone without giving them a chance to convince me otherwise.

I started playing a long time ago, but most if not all of the people in this game (minus Lunalee I think) have played in more games, and game variations, than I have, and as you all saw in AG, I am ruuuuuuusty if not outright kinda bad at this. I’m flattered and appreciate the kind words but if I do something and it looks bad in this game it’s probably because I didn’t think about it very hard.

Look at Colin here making excuses in case his posts come across as scummy. I think it's flimsy cover-up

Nah... I might have banners in my sig but in both cases I was dragged to victory by surviving teammates, and I haven’t successfully helped lynch scum on here yet either. Dunya has seen that and ought to know better than to suggest I’m working with more than her.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

My case is that I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore and you are the asshat who keeps smearing me without actually voting me.

So you admit you are not playing as a civvy? Your case against me is that I’m an asshat.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

My case is that I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore and you are the asshat who keeps smearing me without actually voting me.

So you admit you are not playing as a civvy? Your case against me is that I’m an asshat.

Whatever rocks your boat.

[sprityo]

Bop it.

Shout it.

So after finally going through everyone's ISO who is on the poll today here is who i want to lynch in order of least to most

Sprityo
JJJ
DDL
Colin
Lile
Jack

Kyle
Luna

Scotty pretty much summed up how i feel about Luna here:

Wow, a lot has happened. I think the narrowed poll was a good outcome. It will force us to carefully consider each player, and make a well-informed lynch.
@nutella , why am I at the bottom of your rainbow list?

Luna, I feel like you just read us a treatise on how to drink water. This is a dry, unbuttered statement and I don’t like it

And from the looks of it currently, DDL has the most votes because. well i dont know yet i havent read the updated whole thread yet.

i would assume it's because he is claiming 3rd party? and no one wants to risk that.

Twist it.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Kyle is also pinging me oddly. not against voting him either

Bop it.

[Lunalee]

Lilefer, Luna, and Spirit are all people I am unable to get reads on. They should tell us who they want to vote for.

sure thing. Here's my GTH rainbow:


Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D Luffy
ColinIsCool
Lifler
Sprityo

Sprityo is currently at the bottom because I can't get a good read on him through his "bop it" role playing. I don't trust people who I feel are hiding behind their role.

[sprityo]

Is it just me or is JJJ NO-Uing everyone that has suspected him as bad?

I thought Jay always does that and he just shouts at them until they either get sick of it or other people believe him

[sprityo]

Lilefer, Luna, and Spirit are all people I am unable to get reads on. They should tell us who they want to vote for.

sure thing. Here's my GTH rainbow:


Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D Luffy
ColinIsCool
Lifler
Sprityo

Sprityo is currently at the bottom because I can't get a good read on him through his "bop it" role playing. I don't trust people who I feel are hiding behind their role.

bop it.

pull it.

Wow it's a good thing i voted for you already, this looks like a NO U at this point.

There's nothing wrong with role playing especially when nothing would change in content it's not Ricochet level of being vague as hell

Bop it

[sprityo]

bop it

pull it.

(i dont think luna actually No U'd me, it just looks coincidental)

bop it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t really have a reason to lynch anyone on today’s poll other than DDL and as much as he’s objectively wrong and/or full of shit about certain things, I do actually believe most of not all of his claim and even if he did nothing but submit day targets and eventually take a bullet for the town, that’s a great reason to keep him alive.

So let’s move on to who else I don’t want to lynch.

I don’t really want to lynch Jimmy (kinda disappointed by his attack on me last night cause it was lazy and biased but he’s done it before in Ass Class so I’ll leave it alone).

I don’t want to lynch Kyle or Luna or Sprityo but I could be convinced. I have stronger reasons to want Colin lynched and to not want Colin lynched.

At this point, I’d default to Lilefer, I suppose.

This amendment was truly stupid.

[Lunalee]

bop it

pull it.

(i dont think luna actually No U'd me, it just looks coincidental)

bop it.

I didn't actually see your post before I posted. So it wasn't an intentional "no u"

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

My case is that I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore and you are the asshat who keeps smearing me without actually voting me.

So you admit you are not playing as a civvy? Your case against me is that I’m an asshat.

Whatever rocks your boat.

I suggest you pretend to be a townie. If you get roleblocked or your power just doesn’t work for some bastard reason, you’re going to want some cred to fall back on instead of an unproven claim alone.

[sprityo]

Bop it

Shout it

So as i dont forget i wanted to say things about everyone else i looked at too

Jack is half and half on content/having fun so it's hard to get a solid read. internally i am suspicious but i want to hold off on him

JJJ is JJJ. no more words need to be said

DDL i actually felt good about, as far as acting civilian he looks better than most everyone on the poll today just by his posts

Colin is in the middle between DDL and Jack. like he didnt really joke around but i didnt get a "ah yes" when i read through his ISO

I am obviously civilian. Twist it, mofo

Bop it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]sprityo[/mention]

Why don’t you like Kyle?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scotty, I’m not even trying to get DDL lynched.

Wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it.

Oh?

I said your power was provable and we should give you a few days three hours ago.

You mad I’m calling you on your bullshit and nervous cause you’re on the short list.

This is pure “no you.”

I thought you said you were going to play like a civvy. State your case, mongrel.

My case is that I don't wanna lynch Luna anymore and you are the asshat who keeps smearing me without actually voting me.

So you admit you are not playing as a civvy? Your case against me is that I’m an asshat.

Whatever rocks your boat.

I suggest you pretend to be a townie. If you get roleblocked or your power just doesn’t work for some bastard reason, you’re going to want some cred to fall back on instead of an unproven claim alone.

How can I pretend to be a townie when I just claimed that I am anything but a townie?

I will scumhunt if I want it. I claimed survivor because people don't lynch survivors especially ones with a "rezz", and if you are gonna be dumb enough to lynch me anyway, well at least I get some enjoyment from knowing you guys shot yourselves on the foot, which is more than I've gotten all game so far.

You can hate survivors all you want, wish they were town or whatever, but I am here and will be here unless you actually have the balls to lynch me. If you don't, then leave me alone.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I may actually need [mention]colonialbob[/mention] to confirm this is my standard “fuck claimed survivors” routine cause Google is failing me for HCRealms.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]
I’m not fucking trying to lynch you. Pay attention. Oh wait. You don’t have to because you don’t have a real win con.

[sprityo]

@sprityo

Why don’t you like Kyle?

if you were half and half on jokes to content

kyle would be 90 to 10

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Dragon D. Luffy
I’m not fucking trying to lynch you. Pay attention. Oh wait. You don’t have to because you don’t have a real win con.

Keep pouring all your dislike over the existance of the survivor role on the guy who received it. It will magically make people stop implementing that role.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@sprityo

Why don’t you like Kyle?

if you were half and half on jokes to content

kyle would be 90 to 10

Kyle’s kinda fluffy by nature, though. Got him mislynched in Greece.

[nutella]

Honestly I'd feel better about kyle if he were posting more jokes. He feels kinda off his normal participation rate imo.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dragon D. Luffy
I’m not fucking trying to lynch you. Pay attention. Oh wait. You don’t have to because you don’t have a real win con.

Keep pouring all your dislike over the existance of the survivor role on the guy who received it. It will magically make people stop implementing that role.

It’s not just the role. It’s the way people play it. Like they expect to not get lynched because they’ve claimed and they use it as an excuse to not try...like you are doing right now.

[ColinIsCool]

Bop it

Shout it

So as i dont forget i wanted to say things about everyone else i looked at too

Jack is half and half on content/having fun so it's hard to get a solid read. internally i am suspicious but i want to hold off on him

JJJ is JJJ. no more words need to be said

DDL i actually felt good about, as far as acting civilian he looks better than most everyone on the poll today just by his posts

Colin is in the middle between DDL and Jack. like he didnt really joke around but i didnt get a "ah yes" when i read through his ISO

I am obviously civilian. Twist it, mofo

Bop it.

Are we really just supposed to accept these reads? “His posts look like town”? What?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Dragon D. Luffy
I’m not fucking trying to lynch you. Pay attention. Oh wait. You don’t have to because you don’t have a real win con.

Keep pouring all your dislike over the existance of the survivor role on the guy who received it. It will magically make people stop implementing that role.

It’s not just the role. It’s the way people play it. Like they expect to not get lynched because they’ve claimed and they use it as an excuse to not try...like you are doing right now.

Because it works.

And stop saying I'm not trying. I'm not trying any less than I did in most recent games. I'm not trying any less than half the people in this game. I've been in this game since I woke up defending myself over and over when I could have been studying.

You know what? I'm taking a break until the EoD. This game is ruining my day and I don't need that. I realized you folks are programmed to be hostile against indies by default and I don't need that in my day.

Later.