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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
lmao i have an hour to make a decision between two civ reads hahahaha fuck
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[mention]M Plus 7[/mention], why haven't you participated in the Gladys Campbell check claims?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
and marmot has nearly as many posts as 3J aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 9:54 pmWhat do you think about what I mentioned about Kyle not knowing who Gladys Campbell was. That (plus Kyle was basically not paying attention or doing much) is why in my mind this is a strange kill. You're pulling paranoia out of your ass with your accusations, excuse my expression. I disagree that he's not looking at possibilities. And he's done ISOs and work when he's been around. I've been on a scum team with Jimmeey, and my impression is definitely that he doesn't bus needlessly. It's just not the smart thing to do. I also believe he would not make the kills that has been made.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 5:36 pmKyle being killed is certainly interesting. I suck at NKA, and I typically don't like to employ it, but it seems the mafia team has switched strategies from "lol" to "kill the player least likely to be lynched".
I was the only player to suspect Kyle, let up on it even though I still had it on the back of my mind, so he was under no pressure.
I think this means the first kill was potentially meant to frame someone or get us looking in a specific direction. I'd be wary of people trying to steer that conversation. From what I recall, Jay did this.
That concerns me greatly.

I'll admit having been away from the game and now fully caught up I'm down from like 95% sure about Jay to like 55%.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Because I'm stupid and didn't think of it until it was too late.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:12 pm @M Plus 7, why haven't you participated in the Gladys Campbell check claims?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Authenticity.
I'd probably redo my rainbow at this point though. I'll post one in a bit here.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
This is hilarious and all, but... are half your posts this game just going to be digs at me?Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 11:53 pmYours is easy, Watch:
Considers everything.
Accuses this person.
Defends that person.
Considers everything in twelve posts.
Asks nine questions in ten posts.
Considers everything in seventeen posts.
Can't be around much because he's busy.

Do some shit, Mr. Baseball.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Can you explain your thoughts regarding both of them, like if they are each alignment? I'm just curious what all you are considering in your assessments for each.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 12:00 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
This is still my preference. I have more active suspicion of him than I do of Elohcin.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Quin, why are you town reading Elo and Marmot?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I'm switching to Elo for now to make sure these wagons are competitive.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
MP Rainbow #6 - Day 3 EoD - PoE Style
Do NOT Lynch:
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]
Dislike her reason for suspecting 3J here. Her phrasing around expecting him to carry the thread is what doesn't feel genuine. Does Eloh like to throw votes around? I can't remember. Someone find out for me.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
She never mentioned choutas or backed up this claim in any way. Meh.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
you would put me on the spot like that
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
clean slate. i have no read on marmot anymore.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Marmot inherited Mac, and I didn't care for Mac on Day 1. He received suspicion and did nothing more than laugh at it, and then Choutas said that "Mac is right in the role" thing which continues to show itself brightly when I review this game. Marmot himself is generally off-meta, has given considerable focus to his suspicion of you (which, despite his considerable effort, I still don't understand with clarity), and his Choutas vote was crappy at face value. On the other hand, I can respect the effort he has given, and it's easier to believe he is trying to solve the game than some others in the poll. That can only go so far, but it's something.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pmCan you explain your thoughts regarding both of them, like if they are each alignment? I'm just curious what all you are considering in your assessments for each.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 12:00 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
This is still my preference. I have more active suspicion of him than I do of Elohcin.
The best thing I can say for Elohcin is that she didn't capitalize on her opportunity to get me lynched on Day 1. At this point that isn't such a standout thing though, and I have no reason to believe she has a vested interest in solving the game. That may not be so abnormal for her, but I cannot give her a break when my POE pool has become relatively limited with her in it.
I have active suspicion of Marmot. For Elohcin, it's more an absence of good things.
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Yeah, I'm doing the same. Despite flipping on both of them throughout the game, in looking through their ISOs, I'm realizing that neither of one of them looks particularly great by any means.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Cool, thanks. We're on similar pages.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:28 pmMarmot inherited Mac, and I didn't care for Mac on Day 1. He received suspicion and did nothing more than laugh at it, and then Choutas said that "Mac is right in the role" thing which continues to show itself brightly when I review this game. Marmot himself is generally off-meta, has given considerable focus to his suspicion of you (which, despite his considerable effort, I still don't understand with clarity), and his Choutas vote was crappy at face value. On the other hand, I can respect the effort he has given, and it's easier to believe he is trying to solve the game than some others in the poll. That can only go so far, but it's something.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pmCan you explain your thoughts regarding both of them, like if they are each alignment? I'm just curious what all you are considering in your assessments for each.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 12:00 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
This is still my preference. I have more active suspicion of him than I do of Elohcin.
The best thing I can say for Elohcin is that she didn't capitalize on her opportunity to get me lynched on Day 1. At this point that isn't such a standout thing though, and I have no reason to believe she has a vested interest in solving the game. That may not be so abnormal for her, but I cannot give her a break when my POE pool has become relatively limited with her in it.
I have active suspicion of Marmot. For Elohcin, it's more an absence of good things.
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ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:10 pmThis, too, feels earnest. I believe that a scum Jay would take the effort he put into this post and instead put it into a spirited defense of himself, or an offense on someone else. Whatever it would be, not this.Spoiler: show
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I would like someone other than Colin to talk to me about this. Assume for a moment, just for the sake of argument, that I am a civilian. Within that framework, tell me what you think of these posts from Colin.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Elo's ISO is the definition of uninspiring.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
He looks awful if you're town, that's part of the reason he sank to the bottom tier of my rainbow. I'd consider hot potatoing him if we could pull it off; I'm not sure that's necessary either though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pmColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:10 pmThis, too, feels earnest. I believe that a scum Jay would take the effort he put into this post and instead put it into a spirited defense of himself, or an offense on someone else. Whatever it would be, not this.Spoiler: showSpoiler: showI would like someone other than Colin to talk to me about this. Assume for a moment, just for the sake of argument, that I am a civilian. Within that framework, tell me what you think of these posts from Colin.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.
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Looked at Mac real quick.
Scum read. Since RoT3K I'm pretty sure Ass Class has been his only scum games. I'll acknowledge the pretty large gap between the two games but it still has "historical value". Or something.
Context: The last time 3J correctly scum-read Mac. It was RoT3K.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 3:18 am What was that, 2 or 3 years ago? To say my play is shit when looking at the very last game we played together is funny.
Anway it's interesting that when I said I had your number you assumed I meant as a civ hunting rather than just generally.
Also I was just having some fun waiting to replace out. Marmot is stepping in for me. Enjoy.
Scum read. Since RoT3K I'm pretty sure Ass Class has been his only scum games. I'll acknowledge the pretty large gap between the two games but it still has "historical value". Or something.
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I find Quin's observations here agreeable and feel more solidified in my present Elohcin vote.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I don't know if I'm going to have time for a full Marmot ISO.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I can't help but keep returning to Colin all game too. He just seems like he always has the most opportune opinion at any given time.
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Haha everyone voting for eloh is a mod and everyone voting for marmot is a green normie
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I agree with all of that. I especially hate Elo's "I could have been convinced to vote elsewhere" sentiment.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:36 pm I find Quin's observations here agreeable and feel more solidified in my present Elohcin vote.
Her reads look made-up as well, but they always do to me.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Blue people on Eloh, green on Marmot.
I don’t mind either I guess
I don’t mind either I guess
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I don't think we should do that. It's still only Day 3 and we're 1 for 2. We're fine, and that'd feel like a knee-jerk. It's just something to consider moving forward.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
How is what I’ve said any different/worse than any other meta analysis I or other people have provided in the thread?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pmHe looks awful if you're town, that's part of the reason he sank to the bottom tier of my rainbow. I'd consider hot potatoing him if we could pull it off; I'm not sure that's necessary either though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pmColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:10 pmThis, too, feels earnest. I believe that a scum Jay would take the effort he put into this post and instead put it into a spirited defense of himself, or an offense on someone else. Whatever it would be, not this.Spoiler: showSpoiler: showI would like someone other than Colin to talk to me about this. Assume for a moment, just for the sake of argument, that I am a civilian. Within that framework, tell me what you think of these posts from Colin.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Yeah, I know.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:39 pmI don't think we should do that. It's still only Day 3 and we're 1 for 2. We're fine, and that'd feel like a knee-jerk. It's just something to consider moving forward.

My gut just really hates Colin this game for some reason. My brain's like "slow down there", and my gut just says, "NO!" That's basically how I've felt about him all game.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
It just looks like TMI, like you know Jay is town.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:40 pmHow is what I’ve said any different/worse than any other meta analysis I or other people have provided in the thread?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pmHe looks awful if you're town, that's part of the reason he sank to the bottom tier of my rainbow. I'd consider hot potatoing him if we could pull it off; I'm not sure that's necessary either though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pmColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:10 pmThis, too, feels earnest. I believe that a scum Jay would take the effort he put into this post and instead put it into a spirited defense of himself, or an offense on someone else. Whatever it would be, not this.Spoiler: showSpoiler: showI would like someone other than Colin to talk to me about this. Assume for a moment, just for the sake of argument, that I am a civilian. Within that framework, tell me what you think of these posts from Colin.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
MP, you’d be open to a hot potato of me even when you’ve expressed more serious interest in lynching other players...? And yet you accuse me of being up for anything?

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Fucking unlynchable role.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
I'm not really sure. Elo doesn't seem to care, which could indicate that, but Marmot has been putting forth an insane effort, which in a different way could indicate that?
I don't know.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I don't want to seriously hot potato you; my gut just hates you.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:42 pm MP, you’d be open to a hot potato of me even when you’ve expressed more serious interest in lynching other players...? And yet you accuse me of being up for anything?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Sorry, Colin. No offense intended of course. Your tone and opinions just keep reading as insincere.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
Lol what.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
After reading Elo's ISO and quickly skimming Marmot's ISO, I think I'd rather lynch Elo than Marmot, but it's a tough call.
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What?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:45 pmLol what.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
To be fair, it probably doesn't help that I don't have any meta on you, so maybe I'm just not used to you yet.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I have the opposite problem with Dizzy and Scotty. They usually read sincere to me.
That means one of them is probably bad.
That means one of them is probably bad.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
One thing I notice is that Marmot's quietest day (this one) also happens to be the one in which he is faced with the most pressure. I'm not sure what he's doing in the real world right now, but if that bears relevance to game activity then it might indicate a reduced degree of concern over his place in the poll.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:42 pmFucking unlynchable role.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
I'm not really sure. Elo doesn't seem to care, which could indicate that, but Marmot has been putting forth an insane effort, which in a different way could indicate that?
I don't know.![]()
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
I thought about this after you said it and I’m not sure how I would be able to tell on my own. Meta analysis is one thing, but adding in that extra dimension ... I’d expect them to maybe be a little more careless in their play, a little less inclined to big contributions, but that’s just a thought I haven’t tested.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]
This was probably my favorite single moment for a player in terms of Choutas interactions, and I have been giving Scotty civilian credit ever since. Does anyone protest?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 6:29 pmAre you looking to stir things up? Because “he’s right into the role” ain’t stirring shit
Whatever right into the role means
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 3]
How on earth can that be predicted in the very lucky case both are scum and why should we care. So, lol what.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:46 pmWhat?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:45 pmLol what.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]
This is page 1 of a Marmot ISO.
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Marmot is my strongest town read. Dark green.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:24 amAnd yet you voted for Macdougall?Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:36 pmCorrect. Never take out your heavy hitters without good reason. Turn everybody else into a heavy hitter instead.
If JaggedJimmyJay is batting third, then Macdougall is your cleanup man. Why vote for him?
I agree with his thoughts about MP. Especially the last one.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am [VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine
After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.
Good point about Epi.
I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.Spoiler: show
This guy is mafia.
Backing up his claims with previous games. And again, I don't disagree.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:35 pmSpoiler: show
Potential baddie alert!!!
In Mortal Kombat, here's a question lapluie posed for Simon.
Lapluie was a civilian in that game, while Simon was mafia. Meanwhile in this game, lapluie silently placed a vote on TheFloyd who hasn't posted yet. This put Floyd at 2 votes, and in second overall. The reason for voting TheFloyd? He's been inactive thus far.
Lapluie is an orange salad roll.
This is basically the response to the thing lapluie pulled out and I find it extremely genuine.
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Marmot is my strongest town read. Dark green.