Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Scotty]

I’m not voting golden right now with you, Epi. But you have my support! I’ll throw threatening glances at him though to make sure he knows I mean business!

[Scotty]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

[Golden]

Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?

I can’t recall. Might be as far back as 2016.

I guarantee you I’ve never taken day one suspicion in any of them, though. I’ve been lynched day one many times in my mafia career. Town every time. This time would be no different.

I’ll lol if epi is the person who needs me alive. Someone does.

[Epignosis]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

I'm not posturing. And my original vote was not a matter of policy.

I note that you and nutella have both tried to paint it that way.

[Golden]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

It only takes one counter example to be bullshit logic.

[Scotty]

Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?

I can’t recall. Might be as far back as 2016.

I guarantee you I’ve never taken day one suspicion in any of them, though. I’ve been lynched day one many times in my mafia career. Town every time. This time would be no different.

I’ll lol if epi is the person who needs me alive. Someone does.

Holy shit that’s a long drought.

“I’ve never taken suspicion in any of them”
Well, there’s a first time for everything

[Golden]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

I'm not posturing. And my original vote was not a matter of policy.

I note that you and nutella have both tried to paint it that way.

I don’t believe you.

[Scotty]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

It only takes one counter example to be bullshit logic.

Also who said it was a policy lynch? I vote because I think it’s suspicious. If that’s policy lynch, then so be it.

[Lunalee]

Zephyrus and Quin, who do you think we should lynch?

lapluie. If I'm going to be lynched on the grounds that I'm not contributing, let's not pretend I'm the only one.
[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

I can only conclude from this that you have no suspects.

But really, how can anyone have suspects on day 1?

Who is getting your vote today and why?

Haha, that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I'll keep you posted.

[Golden]

Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?

I can’t recall. Might be as far back as 2016.

I guarantee you I’ve never taken day one suspicion in any of them, though. I’ve been lynched day one many times in my mafia career. Town every time. This time would be no different.

I’ll lol if epi is the person who needs me alive. Someone does.

Holy shit that’s a long drought.

“I’ve never taken suspicion in any of them”
Well, there’s a first time for everything

There doesn’t have to be and this isn’t it.

Your suspicion is as baseless as it was in upick. You have no actual reason to suspect me.

Using the word subtle to describe what I did with Zephyrus is intentional misrepresentation.

[Epignosis]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

I'm not posturing. And my original vote was not a matter of policy.

I note that you and nutella have both tried to paint it that way.

I don’t believe you.

How am I posturing, and how is my original vote a matter of policy when it's been demonstrated that there are other people who would fall under that policy?

[MacDougall]

Luna do you think ColinIsCool?

[Scotty]

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] how would you describe your scum game in a few descriptive words, seeing as we were just scummates and you’ve finally dipped your toes in the mildewy side of the pond?

[Golden]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

It only takes one counter example to be bullshit logic.

Also who said it was a policy lynch? I vote because I think it’s suspicious. If that’s policy lynch, then so be it.

In that case

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Because there’s no way in hell your suspicion of Zephyrus or linking him to me is genuine.

As a policy lynch it’s consistent with normal town scotty. I might even buy it if you said it just had aspects of a policy lynch but there was a small suspicion. Scotty likeslynchinv low posters early.

But not apolicy lynch at all? Genuine suspicion based of a single early day zero post? There is nothing true about that - not from you, or epi, or anyone ever.

[Lunalee]

At the moment I don't have a great number of reads. But I have active town reads on Kyle, sig, and probably Mac

[mention]Golden[/mention] , do you really have such a good handle on people's metas that you can "town read" Kyle, sig and Mac on day one? Seems strange to me.

[Golden]

At the moment I don't have a great number of reads. But I have active town reads on Kyle, sig, and probably Mac

@Golden , do you really have such a good handle on people's metas that you can "town read" Kyle, sig and Mac on day one? Seems strange to me.

No.

Reads are always subject to change. I’m not going to hold off making them because I might be wrong.

[Epignosis]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

It only takes one counter example to be bullshit logic.

Also who said it was a policy lynch? I vote because I think it’s suspicious. If that’s policy lynch, then so be it.

In that case

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Because there’s no way in hell your suspicion of Zephyrus or linking him to me is genuine.

As a policy lynch it’s consistent with normal town scotty. I might even buy it if you said it just had aspects of a policy lynch but there was a small suspicion. Scotty likeslynchinv low posters early.

But not apolicy lynch at all? Genuine suspicion based of a single early day zero post? There is nothing true about that - not from you, or epi, or anyone ever.

You're bad and protecting Zeph.

[Scotty]

Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?

I can’t recall. Might be as far back as 2016.

I guarantee you I’ve never taken day one suspicion in any of them, though. I’ve been lynched day one many times in my mafia career. Town every time. This time would be no different.

I’ll lol if epi is the person who needs me alive. Someone does.

Holy shit that’s a long drought.

“I’ve never taken suspicion in any of them”
Well, there’s a first time for everything

There doesn’t have to be and this isn’t it.

Your suspicion is as baseless as it was in upick. You have no actual reason to suspect me.

Using the word subtle to describe what I did with Zephyrus is intentional misrepresentation.

lol it’s D1. Of course it’s baseless. There’s no base, so I’m a blind baby placing the first block.

Also:

Was Zephyrus bad in U-Pick in the end?

If you can't even remember he played U-Pick and I don't know what affiliation he was, why is his quietness suspicious if he wasn't bad in that game?

Just subtle enough to reason out that his quietness or what-have-you shouldn’t be suspicious because he wasn’t bad in that game.

Do you think that that absolves him from being bad?

[Golden]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

[Lunalee]

At the moment I don't have a great number of reads. But I have active town reads on Kyle, sig, and probably Mac

@Golden , do you really have such a good handle on people's metas that you can "town read" Kyle, sig and Mac on day one? Seems strange to me.

No.

Reads are always subject to change. I’m not going to hold off making them because I might be wrong.

Fair enough

[Golden]

No scotty, I don’t think that absolves him from being bad. I’ve never said I have any read on Zephyrus - how could I when he’s done nothing?

I do, however, have a read on you. And it’s not baseless in the least - and the idea of writing off day one suspicions as inherently baseless is also bad. I’ve caught many baddies red handed on day one, it’s when the biggest mistakes are made.

Mistakes like casting the second vote against someone who has no readable content.

[Epignosis]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

Thanks. He told me.

[Epignosis]

I side with Scotty. I think Scotty is good and Golden is trying to make his move against someone who can easily be lynched.

[Scotty]

But in all seriousness, I don’t see a huge drive for Zyph.

And Golden is subtly defending his non-play by saying he wasn’t bad in UPick doing a similar thing.

Very possible teammates

I’m not ‘subtly’ doing anything. If someone says behaviour is suspicious and lynchworthy, but it’s that persons normal behaviour, I’ll point it out every time, and there’s nothing subtle about it. Epi was just posturing anyway (looking to see who would take the bait).

Policy lynch zeph if you want, but don’t pretend it’s anything other than that.

But how do you know what “normal” is? How many gamed have you played with Zyph to attribute normalcy to any of his play?

It only takes one counter example to be bullshit logic.

Also who said it was a policy lynch? I vote because I think it’s suspicious. If that’s policy lynch, then so be it.

In that case

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Because there’s no way in hell your suspicion of Zephyrus or linking him to me is genuine.

As a policy lynch it’s consistent with normal town scotty. I might even buy it if you said it just had aspects of a policy lynch but there was a small suspicion. Scotty likeslynchinv low posters early.

But not apolicy lynch at all? Genuine suspicion based of a single early day zero post? There is nothing true about that - not from you, or epi, or anyone ever.

Civ metas are bullshit, yellow man.
I guess you could say i would policy lynch no-posters, but low posters I need to actually find something sus in. I don’t necessarily see that as the prescribed “policy lynch”

[Scotty]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

Why not? What’s so unlike your baddie self in posting an innocuous counter to my vote? It’s not blatant defending; Nono. It’s more..:subtle

[Lunalee]

What happens if we run into a version of ourselves from the past?

Did your past self meet you? If not, then this can't happen.

There's only three plausible options:

1) There is a singular universe, and so your experience of the past is exactly what happened; or
2) There is a multiverse, in which case if you meet a version of yourself from the past, that person is not you; or
3) There will be plot holes in your life story.

Don't forget, retrocausality is about the future effecting the past. So, it's possible you could create the multiverse, but it's also entirely possible that the point of this game is to demonstrate that retrocausality is an illusion designed to keep you pacified.

*affecting

Golden's use of "effecting" is correct.

*currect

Is this why you have 3 votes, Scotty?
jk, but I am looking at your posts and trying to figure it out.

[Golden]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

Why not? What’s so unlike your baddie self in posting an innocuous counter to my vote? It’s not blatant defending; Nono. It’s more..:subtle

What’s so unlike it?

I’d literally never do it. If you’re my baddie teammate, don’t ask for my help. I’d sooner bus you.

[Golden]

I side with Scotty. I think Scotty is good and Golden is trying to make his move against someone who can easily be lynched.

And Zephyrus couldn’t ‘easily be lynched’ when he had three votes before you shifted to me? Or is that different because you say it is.

[Golden]

And once again I’ll say, it wasn’t subtle. It was fully intended to cast suspicion on you and epi, right where it belonged.

[Lunalee]

Let's do some time stuff!

Invited people to do stuff.

Has done nothing.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

Who objects?

IDK, That sounds exactly like something I would do. Gung-ho townie is ready to get down to business, starts combing the thread, finds nothing to go on, and just hangs back for a bit to see what's going to happen.

[Epignosis]

I side with Scotty. I think Scotty is good and Golden is trying to make his move against someone who can easily be lynched.

And Zephyrus couldn’t ‘easily be lynched’ when he had three votes before you shifted to me? Or is that different because you say it is.

You're teammates. You two plus Mac.

[ColinIsCool]

I’m a little buzzed and wondering if Scotty and Golden are teammates trying some scum theatrics on us D1. If I cracked the game open this early y’all can just tell me.

[ColinIsCool]

Probably at least one scum laying super low right now too. There always is at this point.

[Golden]

I’m a little buzzed and wondering if Scotty and Golden are teammates trying some scum theatrics on us D1. If I cracked the game open this early y’all can just tell me.

I’m not into theatrics either, but this is a whole lot more plausible than me being bad with zeph.

[Scotty]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

Why not? What’s so unlike your baddie self in posting an innocuous counter to my vote? It’s not blatant defending; Nono. It’s more..:subtle

What’s so unlike it?

I’d literally never do it. If you’re my baddie teammate, don’t ask for my help. I’d sooner bus you.

He didn’t ask for your help.

And anyway, are you saying you always look to bus your teammates?

There’s a lot of absolutes going on from your side of the field

[Lunalee]

@Lunalee how would you describe your scum game in a few descriptive words, seeing as we were just scummates and you’ve finally dipped your toes in the mildewy side of the pond?

You want me to explain my scum meta to you? Based off one scum game, I hardly know myself. But I do think I played better as scum. I had more motivation to "look good". When I'm town, I just make stupid posts that get myself lynched.

[Scotty]

I’m a little buzzed and wondering if Scotty and Golden are teammates trying some scum theatrics on us D1. If I cracked the game open this early y’all can just tell me.

I’m not into theatrics either, but this is a whole lot more plausible than me being bad with zeph.

I like theatrics! Let’s put up a show!

Golden Girls: The Timeless Musical!

[Lunalee]

Luna do you think ColinIsCool?

Of course ColinIsCool.

But in all seriousness, I have no reason to suspect Colin at this point. I notice he's voting for Scotty, which I'm actually considering myself.

[ColinIsCool]

Kinda want all those people who haven’t said much to get in here and say stuff

[Golden]

Chances of me ever posting what I did about zeph if we were baddie teammates is precisely zero.

You’re being buddied by scotty.

Why not? What’s so unlike your baddie self in posting an innocuous counter to my vote? It’s not blatant defending; Nono. It’s more..:subtle

What’s so unlike it?

I’d literally never do it. If you’re my baddie teammate, don’t ask for my help. I’d sooner bus you.

He didn’t ask for your help.

And anyway, are you saying you always look to bus your teammates?

There’s a lot of absolutes going on from your side of the field

How would you know he didn’t, if we are supposedly teammates in your mind. He’d have btsc to do so. The reason you know he didn’t is because you know we don’t have btsc.

This comment betrays exactly the falseness your accusation has. It lacks any sense of honest assessment of what you think is happening.

Very confident in my vote now.

PS you claimed that absolute not me. I said I wouldn’t defend one in such situations, not I’d ‘always’ look to bus them, which would be daft behaviour.

[Golden]

I’m a little buzzed and wondering if Scotty and Golden are teammates trying some scum theatrics on us D1. If I cracked the game open this early y’all can just tell me.

I’m not into theatrics either, but this is a whole lot more plausible than me being bad with zeph.

I like theatrics! Let’s put up a show!

Golden Girls: The Timeless Musical!

Honestly kind of wish we were baddie timemates just for this.

[lapluie]

Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx

[lapluie]

Kinda want all those people who haven’t said much to get in here and say stuff

Stuff

[Epignosis]

I garauntee you Golden is bad.

[ColinIsCool]

Kinda want all those people who haven’t said much to get in here and say stuff

Stuff

Who do you want dead?

[ColinIsCool]

I garauntee you Golden is bad.

Definitely going to have to evaluate him further when I am not falling asleep and kinda drunk

[Epignosis]

Lynch Golden.

[Golden]

I garauntee you Golden is bad.

Your guarantee is worthless.

[Golden]

I would policy lynch Epignosis right now.

[ColinIsCool]

I would policy lynch Epignosis right now.

What’s the policy?