Not sarcasm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 pmcan’t tell if sarcasm
I haven't looked at all of her posts, but to be indecisive on someone like that is usually a town-tell
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Not sarcasm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 pmcan’t tell if sarcasm
I encourage you to look, because I don’t think it’s indecision. I think it’s an actual oopsie. nutella summed it up well too.Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:35 pmNot sarcasm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 pmcan’t tell if sarcasm
I haven't looked at all of her posts, but to be indecisive on someone like that is usually a town-tell
because i don’t feel like it tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:31 pmWheres the suspicion? Why not this time?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:40 pmi will say why this post made me cringe and sloob can talk about it.
fake suspicion is fine. it’s a means to an end. i pretend to suspect Mac in half the days 1 we play in, because his handling of that informs my read. it creates a baseline.
i don’t quite get the impression here that you’re working to inform your LC read here sloobei doobie doo. instead it looks more like you wanted to appear as a content-facilitator and had to step right off the gas when it got hot. i wouldn’t expect civilian sloob to make this post
Which day 1 votes would not be lazy? Bad point, Lunalee.
it doesn't look like legitimate indecision though. she literally said "I'm sus of Jay" and "I don't think anything happened to jay on d0" in the same postLunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:35 pmNot sarcasm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 pmcan’t tell if sarcasm
I haven't looked at all of her posts, but to be indecisive on someone like that is usually a town-tell
Jack scumread 3J already. His post makes sense that way. That's if you look past the fact he didn't see 3J as a recruiter, which I will.Bullzeye wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:03 pmJack. Because it's an "obvious conclusion" Jay would be a recruit. Sure, if the baddies were choosing players rather than roles they might like to pick someone with the reputation of Jay but that's not the case. It seems to me like something a baddie might say to cast doubt on someone they wanted rid of without having to go all out. Does that make sense?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:59 pmAre you keeping an eye on Jack or Jay? Why?Bullzeye wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 pm Also, Sloonei, to your question of if I have thoughts about specific players. I didn't mention it explicitly when I quoted this post:
But I found it a bit shifty. Something to keep an eye on.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:17 amProbably trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that he was recruited.Infected_alien8_ wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:15 am Very initial first impression of the thread: Jay feels off, don't know why though
You're not discouraging, this is actually quite helpfulSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:02 pm No need to apologize if you feel you have rust to shake off, Bullzeye. That's going to be a natural feeling after such a long break. Also, don't let my interrogation do anything to discourage you! I just ask loads of questions and try to get things into the thread as thoroughly as possible for my own sake. you do you, I appreciate your input so far.
Straight up didn't see it. Did a CTRL+F search for 'recruit' and everything. Put it down to classic Quin incompetenceBullzeye wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:41 pm Comments showing ignorance of the recruitment mechanic are listed below. First, a particularly noteworthy post from the signup thread.
I remember it because it's what convinced me to sign up, recruitment being one of my favourite mechanics. I'll not bother quoting the opening post of the game that shows the main baddie picks four people to join his team during Day 0.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:03 pm For anybody wondering, the main mechanic is a recruitment: Most of the players will not begin as good or bad. Light and Wily will recruit roles. Wily will find out his mafia team of players gradually as they join BTSC. Light will not know his civilian team at all.
The above comments make this question sound crazy.
Going back to the LC discussion I find this to be one of the stranger questions he asks, because everyone knows when the decisions were made. Maybe not to the minute, but we can narrow it down to a specific 24 hour period.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:00 amWhen do you think the decisions on recruitment were made?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 amCreate a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.
I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.
Odd question considering it's pretty clearly four. Or five, if the recruiting bad guy is also a robot looking for robot friends. Either way, strange thing to ask.
I think there's merit to the idea of baddies feigning ignorance about the recruitment setup in order to appear innocent. Honestly, Quin's comment above strikes me as the most suspicious.
it doesn't count unless you mention your quindar
i don't understand this post but i know i disagree with itElohcin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:23 pmSo in other words, "y'all get started and get the dirty work done and I will come back in here before the vote and make my assessment on which bandwagon I should jump on." Sounds bad to me. My first accusation is on YOU. Not only just this post. But, this post was given at12:54am. You then go on posting frequently until 3:08am. That is over 2 hours. And you have no time to ask questions, make comments, hurl accusations? There was no opportunity for that? Then you must have slept or something because you came back in the early pm posting exactly 9 hours later. At 1:48pm you talk about what you will do once you feel like actually playing the game. Again, you post frequently for 1 hour (1:48pm-2:42pm) not really saying anything. I do NOT like Jay in Mega-Man, I do not like him, Sam-I-Am.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 amCreate a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.
I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.
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@Jack - I always post early on and often. I just don't often say much game related crap because I am too busy trying to keep up with the reading in the little bit of time I have to devote to mafia.
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Agreed. Hypotheticals aren't something I associate with scumslips. Unless you're me in Mad Max after having literally just scumslipped.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:39 pmTo the first point about me, I was talking in strict hypotheticals. Mac was making bogus accusations about me. I illuminated him on my approach to the game as a civilian. It'd be ludicrous to accuse me of scum-slipping there.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:17 pm Alongside my sus of Jay, I think Quin is civ, I think Mac is civ, I think Sloon could have slipped saying "If I'm Civ" but I see no other signs pointing to baddie, and I am neutral on nutella although she is being kind-of mean overall.
Sloonei, I am confused. Did Jack through out cum reads before or after alignments were given. I see a contradiction in your posts here.
I don't know why I needed my own line.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:19 pmYeah this is a Mafia I thinkElohcin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:17 pm Alongside my sus of Jay, I think Quin is civ, I think Mac is civ, I think Sloon could have slipped saying "If I'm Civ" but I see no other signs pointing to baddie, and I am neutral on nutella although she is being kind-of mean overall.
Quin, don't let anything make you guess your coolness.
Nutella, saying things like "naw bish" doesn't make you cool. :P
And what is this love relationship going on between Mac and Nut?
Sloon, I doubt anything happened to Jay on Day 0. I think he was telling the truth.
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Sloonei, I am confused. Did Jack through out cum reads before or after alignments were given. I see a contradiction in your posts here.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:58 amWe were well into Day 1 when he started throwing these posts around. He had an alignment.Quin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:56 amJack isn't the recruiter. I'll say that. I don't know about the rest of it since he may not have had an alignment at the time himself.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:52 amJack threw a scumread on me for a post I made before I had an alignment. I assume he did the same for others.
This gives me a townread on Jack.
What kinds of things does town K-Ness say?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:54 pm Townlean on Kness. He’s saying things I expect town Kness to say.
Pro tip if you’re going to use a notepad. Take a selfie with the notepad to prove you are really using it. Based on past experiences, this leads to victory 100% of the time.
oh my godColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:12 pm Oops, just saw Simon was playing. Apologies for my language. Don’t grow up to be like me
well its not up to you is itJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:32 pm luna good
Mac good
nutella good
LC good
i endorse their leadership of the thread
of course it isQuin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:06 pmwell its not up to you is itJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:32 pm luna good
Mac good
nutella good
LC good
i endorse their leadership of the thread
If you feel this way then I’ve been scummy in every game I’ve ever played.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:10 pmWhy did you vote there in the first place?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:07 pmWhy did I move my vote the moment LC responded?nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:49 pm Like, your fake vote for him and the way you just restated Luna's points -- so much feigned bullshit. If you don't actually suspect him you don't need to pretend that you do in order to generate discussion. Literally you could have just said the last sentence "Let's talk about this" and would have gotten the effect you wanted.
Just, let me say this sentence again. If you don't actually suspect him you don't need to pretend that you do in order to generate discussion. There is pretty much never any good reason for a civilian to pretend to suspect someone they don't suspect. It's primarily a scum move. If you're town you should just honestly say what you mean. I can understand the strategy of exaggerating a suspicion a little bit to stimulate discussion/gauge reactions, but I don't think you did that effectively here. Except that you successfully got a reaction from me
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:26 pm to be fair i pretend to suspect people on day 1 of every game as a civilian. it’s key for stirring things up
No, 48 hours is plenty of time to riddle out a reasonable lynch candidate without falling back on poor "well he's usually scum" fallacy.
Yeah, if it was a quindar thing, I'd vote you. I don't have a toneread from the quindar yet.
Oh, found the post.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:36 pmit doesn't look like legitimate indecision though. she literally said "I'm sus of Jay" and "I don't think anything happened to jay on d0" in the same postLunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:35 pmNot sarcasm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 pmcan’t tell if sarcasm
I haven't looked at all of her posts, but to be indecisive on someone like that is usually a town-tell
Didn't get that whole 'he's usually scum' thing from your post. Sounded like you just didn't want him lynched Day 1 as a matter of course.
The town reads are gut for the most part. Some other minor stuff, I guess. dunya took a steaming turd on my reputation for sorting Eloh correctly early, but I'm gonna stick with it.
What do you think of all this town cred you've suddenly amassed?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm I suspect Speedchuck less after seeing the quote from Epi about Light and Wiley recruiting. Sloonei would then be my top suspect, but there's already votes on him. Oh well. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I doubt Sloonei will be lynched today. There's no way this stays as-is for the next 19 hours.
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:17 pmThe town reads are gut for the most part. Some other minor stuff, I guess. dunya took a steaming turd on my reputation for sorting Eloh correctly early, but I'm gonna stick with it.
nova's vote came out of the blue and his subsequent explanation sucks. He didn't even try to engage me before running off.
Lunalee talking about speedchuck doesn't come across well to me.
I thought I'd put you as a civilian after talking to you before, thinking on it, so I have no idea why I've called you bad aside from instinct. There's no way I'm voting for you over it, at least.
I mean, I've explained it to you already.Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:20 pmQuin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:17 pmThe town reads are gut for the most part. Some other minor stuff, I guess. dunya took a steaming turd on my reputation for sorting Eloh correctly early, but I'm gonna stick with it.
nova's vote came out of the blue and his subsequent explanation sucks. He didn't even try to engage me before running off.
Lunalee talking about speedchuck doesn't come across well to me.
I thought I'd put you as a civilian after talking to you before, thinking on it, so I have no idea why I've called you bad aside from instinct. There's no way I'm voting for you over it, at least.
On one hand it's pretty righteous, on the other it's like "hey slow down guys, I don't need the headache".Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:19 pmWhat do you think of all this town cred you've suddenly amassed?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm I suspect Speedchuck less after seeing the quote from Epi about Light and Wiley recruiting. Sloonei would then be my top suspect, but there's already votes on him. Oh well. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I doubt Sloonei will be lynched today. There's no way this stays as-is for the next 19 hours.
Hmm I bet it's more like "oh shit, what did I do right?"Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:29 pmOn one hand it's pretty righteous, on the other it's like "hey slow down guys, I don't need the headache".Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:19 pmWhat do you think of all this town cred you've suddenly amassed?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm I suspect Speedchuck less after seeing the quote from Epi about Light and Wiley recruiting. Sloonei would then be my top suspect, but there's already votes on him. Oh well. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I doubt Sloonei will be lynched today. There's no way this stays as-is for the next 19 hours.
I was responded directly to this post where LC accuses me of being wishywashy and a bunch of other stuff. I wanted to make it clear that my stance was never "LC is bad" but only "Let's talk about a thing Lunalee said about LC."JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:40 pmi will say why this post made me cringe and sloob can talk about it.
fake suspicion is fine. it’s a means to an end. i pretend to suspect Mac in half the days 1 we play in, because his handling of that informs my read. it creates a baseline.
i don’t quite get the impression here that you’re working to inform your LC read here sloobei doobie doo. instead it looks more like you wanted to appear as a content-facilitator and had to step right off the gas when it got hot. i wouldn’t expect civilian sloob to make this post
Why am I tops?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm I suspect Speedchuck less after seeing the quote from Epi about Light and Wiley recruiting. Sloonei would then be my top suspect, but there's already votes on him. Oh well. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I doubt Sloonei will be lynched today. There's no way this stays as-is for the next 19 hours.
Aggressive (re)-entry. This promises to be good. Right?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:44 pm Reading the thread back, I don’t like any of you motherfuckers.
Okay. Why?
Walks back the prior aggression and assigns a "not bad" read to Luna. Why?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:54 pm I’m kidding you guys, you’re all swell. But some of you are bad.
Luna’s not bad though.Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:19 pm Long Con's posts strike me weird. He apparently didn't read the rules or his role pm, and instead askes all game-mechanic questions in thread. Concerning the mafia recruitment aspect, he asks: It's still up for grabs?
Then posts a bunch of questions on how to approach this game: What are we dealing with here? How do we even mafia in this game?
Then asks, "have recruitment decisions been made?"
But then suddenly understands everything well enough to place a vote on speedchuck based on his game mechanic questions.
I don't view Long Con as being an ignorant player, which is why all his questions confuse me. Is he bad and trying to look like an ignorant townie? Or is he really that bad at reading the rules? I would be okay with voting Long Con today.
This is not a thing I could see JaggedJimmyJay doing as scum. I don't agree with this post, but I don't know if I dislike it either. I could see reason for scum Colin to want to provoke town Jay, but it doesn't have to be the case.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:03 pmJay is apathetic because Jay is scum and he doesn’t have to put any effort into solving or reading anything, even — he just has to live or confuse the hell out of people if he can’t. I’ll take one (1) winner’s banner pleaseJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:07 pm it’s kind of fascinating to play like a goober because i have read nearly everything and still have no clue what’s going on. the only difference is my general apathy and it affects all of my reasoning and intuitive skills.
cool
Why? x8ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:11 pm Good: Luna, Mac, Jack, Nutella, Speedchuck
Bad: Quin, Sloonei, Long Con, JJJ
I see. I'll wait for all the elaboration.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:14 pm I can elaborate on any of those reads upon request but my laptop is vomiting all over itself so it’s a little hard to be thorough on mobile
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:47 pm [VOTE: SLOONEY] aubergine
I'll try to keep tabs on this tomorrow
He acknowledged me. I've since acknowledged this question.
Legitimate question, I like the angle and it's abstract enough to suggest to me that TH is actually thinking about something with regards to LC. Townie point.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:19 pmWhat do you think of all this town cred you've suddenly amassed?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm I suspect Speedchuck less after seeing the quote from Epi about Light and Wiley recruiting. Sloonei would then be my top suspect, but there's already votes on him. Oh well. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I doubt Sloonei will be lynched today. There's no way this stays as-is for the next 19 hours.
A very valuable lesson in history. Much appreciated. Townie point.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:33 pm Fun fact, the first Mega Man game was painted by Leonardo da Vinci in 1483. The game was called Magnus Homo and Mega Man's penis was two pixels wide, which was considered revolutionary at the time. Many people don't know this.
I could see this is a scum dipping their toe in the waters. There's a half-serious implication that Jay's behavior is out of character, which carries with it the potential suggestion that Jay is anti-town, but nutella is not directly taking a stance. Instead she's just floating the possibility that something is amiss here without actually addressing it specifically.
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:17 amk but quin first quin is deadass the mafia recruiterMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:56 am Sloonei is Mafia. Lynch him this time please. Last time he was Mafia I caught him straight away and they killed me and it took town seventeen phases to lynch him.
I can't tell why she feels so strongly about Quin, but I'm not looking at these posts in context. I remember reading the thread around this time, but I don't remember anything Quin said or why he'd be a suspect from it. Maybe I'll find out more as I go.
Not sure why she's voting speedchuck here.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:31 amgood lordJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:29 am okay bye 4 real luv u all soooOOOOoooo muchz :-* :-*
ok imma throw you a bone buddy
[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine
*puts a pillow under jay's head*
I kinda like this post even though it's not entirely clear what she's saying at any point. She seems to purposefully conceal her reason for suspecting Quin earlier, and gives a vague, but not empty, explanation for her speedchuck vote. I don't take her vagueness here to be the sort of hesitant waffling that I'd associate with scum players. Rather, I see it as a player who's drawing from a real train of thought and not bothering to fill in all the blanks for the thread. There's nothing wrong with that and her words look sincere here. Townie point.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:21 pmI'm not sure that I did at the time, it was an impulsive thing but I did think his vote for Jay was an overreaction (though seeing his explanation now I may have misinterpreted it). I had a theory about Quin based on one thing but it wasn't very strong and I didn't believe it enough for a vote. I became more confident in my vote for speed in this catchup what with his weird exchange with you about recruitment. Though thinking about it there is a world in which he has a point about sprityo.
Some elaboration on the previous post. I dig it.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:28 pmThat's the same thing I assumed, especially since I had immediately beforehand made a comment to such an effect. I assumed speed was questioning jay's meta in the same way I was but in a much stronger manner and I thought it was weird that he immediately took it to vote territory. I see now that he interpreted jay's post as a sign he may have been recruited, which I disagree with but is a more valid motivation.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:48 pmcuz i thought you were making a crappy statement on my meta when you voted for me (i.e. jjj would NEVAR celebrate a quiet day 0)speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:17 pm"Gee guys, nothing at all happened at the end of day one and I never got a recruitment PM no sirree"
That was your first post of D1, paraphrased by me. Or something like that. Why did you vote for me?
u okay tho so i’ll probably vote for someone else whenever i feel like playing