Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Dyslexicon]

Kyle asking "why am I town" and "why am I green" all the time is freaking me out.

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy can you post me a link to a game where you're civ in it, please?

This sad affair was the last game I played on this site: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 106&t=1592
I had good reads, and poor execution skills.

[Marmot]

I really like that post from Sloonei more than I like the case against him. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the link you posted Sloonei.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

No ties please (don't listen to turnipface).

[nutella]

Hoooo boy I just feel better and better about this Luna lynch. There's some bussers in here for sure and imma catch them.

[Dyslexicon]

JackofHearts2005
speedchuck
Long Con
nutella
Infected_alien8_
Kylemii
Turnip Head
Lunalee
Bullzeye
Marmot
novaselinenever
Quin
sprityo
K-Ness
Sloonei
DFaraday
Dom
DrWilgy
Simon
Soneji

I attempted some colors and realized how little direction I actually have. I wouldn't be terribly upset to lynch any player that is not a shade of green. Pink means love, only love.

[Dyslexicon]

Infected alien got infected by a bug and should be with the other light oranges.

[Dyslexicon]

Hoooo boy I just feel better and better about this Luna lynch. There's some bussers in here for sure and imma catch them.

I'll ride this wave of confidence then.

[Kylemii]

Kyle asking "why am I town" and "why am I green" all the time is freaking me out.

i go out of my way to make myself hard to read early on in most games so whenever people place me especially far from the center of their rainbow lists it irks my buttons. asking for clarification allows me to know if they're being sincere or not

[Lunalee]

@Lunalee did you suspect sloonei before it became a you or him thing?

I thought I did, but looking back at my posts, it's not very clear.

[speedchuck]

I have no idea what you want me to respond to. Back to resting.

Turnip made a case for you being scum. He mentioned how you put together your read list and the creative choices with the colors.

Oh, that.

I don't see much reason to respond to it. No idea how it correlates with a read of me. I was just using the syndicate to haphazardly paste as I jumped around the thread and got some basic reads. First town, then scum, then in-betweens, then a couple of light variations.

[nutella]

@Lunalee did you suspect sloonei before it became a you or him thing?

I thought I did, but looking back at my posts, it's not very clear.

You thought you did? He asked if you suspected sloonei, not if you had sources proving you did. if you suspected him, you suspected him whether it was clear or not, yeah?

[nutella]

So faaaaaake

[Dyslexicon]

i go out of my way to make myself hard to read early on in most games so whenever people place me especially far from the center of their rainbow lists it irks my buttons. asking for clarification allows me to know if they're being sincere or not

K. Trying to be hard to read is pretty unhelpful when town imo.

[Dyslexicon]

Oh, that.

I don't see much reason to respond to it. No idea how it correlates with a read of me. I was just using the syndicate to haphazardly paste as I jumped around the thread and got some basic reads. First town, then scum, then in-betweens, then a couple of light variations.

A reason to respond to it would be that apparently, Turnip wonders, Nut wonders and I would be interested to hear your response. The mysterious Simon color, Speed!

[Dyslexicon]

So faaaaaake

Yeah, I feel better too now.

[Sloonei]

Me too.

[Kylemii]

i go out of my way to make myself hard to read early on in most games so whenever people place me especially far from the center of their rainbow lists it irks my buttons. asking for clarification allows me to know if they're being sincere or not

K. Trying to be hard to read is pretty unhelpful when town imo.

yeah, everyone always says that but I don't think I do anything that much different than anyone else, I'm just a little more transparent about it than most people are.

[Sloonei]

so are we just running out the clock in silence now?

[Dyslexicon]

yeah, everyone always says that but I don't think I do anything that much different than anyone else, I'm just a little more transparent about it than most people are.

Well, I try to make it obvious that I'm town when I'm town (except maybe D1 for lols and reads), and then I just have a miserable time when I'm scum. : p But hey, you do you and all.

[Dyslexicon]

so are we just running out the clock in silence now?

I'm here. Slightly distracted. Do you have a read on K-Ness?

Also would like updated thoughts on him from Jacccccckkkk.

[Sloonei]

There's a science to making oneself just unreadable enough to avoid being considered for a nightkill in the early stages of a game. I also think there might sometimes be some residual effects of the Syndicate era in which people needed to survive the entire game to be crowned "winners".

[Sloonei]

so are we just running out the clock in silence now?

I'm here. Slightly distracted. Do you have a read on K-Ness?

Also would like updated thoughts on him from Jacccccckkkk.

Nothing too elaborate. I share in some of the sentiments you expressed in your most recent response to him, but he's new to the Syndicate and the Syndicate is new to him. I don't want to make a hasty judgment. I am going to want to take a closer look at him on Day 4 if possible.

[Simon]

Hello !!! so I am just joining a vote Lunalee band wagon since she has 8 votes.

[Sloonei]

Hello !!! so I am just joining a vote Lunalee band wagon since she has 8 votes.

I like this vote, Simon. Do you have any idea who killed Jay, Colin, and Mac?

... i just realized that all my rym friends are dead.

[Dyslexicon]

There's a science to making oneself just unreadable enough to avoid being considered for a nightkill in the early stages of a game. I also think there might sometimes be some residual effects of the Syndicate era in which people needed to survive the entire game to be crowned "winners".

Yeah, I remember people talking about this. Well, I had about a good year of being killed N1 whenever I was town on my home site, so lol. Can't help just ...talk. Luckily I'm a lot more naturally chill now.

[Dyslexicon]

May I ask how old you are, Simon? I see people mention that you are younger.

[Kylemii]

yeah, everyone always says that but I don't think I do anything that much different than anyone else, I'm just a little more transparent about it than most people are.

Well, I try to make it obvious that I'm town when I'm town (except maybe D1 for lols and reads), and then I just have a miserable time when I'm scum. : p But hey, you do you and all.

going all out and doing your best is fine but for me it just leads to burnout and hating mafia after like 2 games. by tempering my town play early on i can still enjoy the game in general regardless of what alignment i roll. and like you said, playing each game as if it's the only game that matters just leads to having more difficult games in the future for like... basically no reason.

[Dyslexicon]

going all out and doing your best is fine but for me it just leads to burnout and hating mafia after like 2 games. by tempering my town play early on i can still enjoy the game in general regardless of what alignment i roll. and like you said, playing each game as if it's the only game that matters just leads to having more difficult games in the future for like... basically no reason.

I do get burnouts often. I'm actually on break right now. xD

[Dyslexicon]

Luna, any last words?

[Kylemii]

I do get burnouts often. I'm actually on break right now. xD

lol nice break

[Epignosis]

Who needs to be blown sky high?

Poll ended at Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:52 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Bullzeye
0
No votes


Voters: None

DFaraday
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dom
0
No votes


Voters: None

DrWilgy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Infected_alien8_
0
No votes


Voters: None

JackofHearts2005
0
No votes


Voters: None

K-Ness
0
No votes


Voters: None

Kylemii
0
No votes


Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

Lunalee
9
47%


Voters: Kylemii, Turnip Head, Long Con, Sloonei, nutella, Marmot, Bullzeye, Dyslexicon, Simon

Marmot
0
No votes


Voters: None

novaselinenever
0
No votes


Voters: None

nutella
0
No votes


Voters: None

Quin
0
No votes


Voters: None

Simon
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sloonei
5
26%


Voters: speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, sprityo, Lunalee, K-Ness

speedchuck
0
No votes


Voters: None

Soneji
0
No votes


Voters: None

sprityo
0
No votes


Voters: None

Turnip Head
0
No votes


Voters: None

White
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dave's Not Here Man (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
5
26%


Voters: MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya, M Plus 7, Epignosis


Total votes: 19

[Epignosis]

Lunalee has been lynched.

Spoiler: show

Lunalee was Bright Man.

Flash Stopper – Turn the lights on or off, skipping one Day or Night phase entirely. The command to skip a Night phase must be received the previous Day, while the command to skip a Day phase must be received the previous Night. In any case, Bright Man must survive the phase for the power to go into effect.

Bright Man was programmed by Dr. Wily.

It is now Night 3. You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

[Sloonei]

Cool, nice job.

[Sloonei]

Also I think I figured out why the day was skipped.

[Dyslexicon]

[Turnip Head]

fresh

[Kylemii]

hell yeah

[Lunalee]

Luna, any last words?

Nothing I say is going to change anyone's minds, so I'm out.

[Kylemii]

i wonder why they chose to use that so early?

[Sloonei]

Sprityo and speedchuck are the first players that come to mind for possible ties to luna. Some of y’all who helped turned the tide against her are looking great too, but I don’t want to rule out potential bussers right away.

This is a good result. Some interactive Luna reads should be next up. I have school things that I’ve been putting off all day though, so that won’t come from me right now.

[Turnip Head]

Bullz and Marmot are my susses

[Kylemii]

route 32 johto

[Kylemii]

wrong window

[nutella]

i wonder why they chose to use that so early?

Under Pressure


Sweet result and so much info we can glean from it. Not only am I gonna do some looking into who I think bussed her, but we also could get some insight from the skipped day-- whether it was just that Luna herself was at risk of a lunch or if she also was trying to protect a teammate in getting another kill and on Mac specifically. Sloonei wifom all over again I guess but with more data

[nutella]

Bullz and Marmot are my susses

Whoa samezies. These two plus Simon are the exact people I was going to say looked like bussers.

[nutella]

Sloon, why sprit and speed? I think bullz and marmot's votes looked way worse

[nutella]

and Simon's looked coached tbh.

[Kylemii]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] is it possible to get mareep before beating falkner? In that little grass spot? im trying to decide whether or not i should go for the extra capture before the fight or just wait til after

[nutella]

That being said, surely not all of Luna's teammates voted for her so I'm probably not right about all three of those but I think they are the most reasonable places to look.

[Dyslexicon]

Here are just a few things that stands out to me quickly looking through Luna's ISO.

@Marmot I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

And to answer this question, everyone is mafia until I have proven otherwise.

I don't like Marmot.

No mention why. Don't know if joke or not.

Analysis post part 1:
Bullzeye gives his reason for voting Quin. He dislikes Quin's questions, and even after Quin provides a valid response, Bullzeye responds with basically "I'm going to say your response looks fake because I'm so set on voting for you." Not the best look.

This is such a generic criticism that it could be applied to nearly every vote in nearly every game ever. The majority of votes happen because one person suspects another and that person's responses don't satisfy the accuser. What one person finds valid, another might not. I didn't find his explanation believable.

Oh, hi! You. You are the one.

[VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine

I was starting to feel bad for suspecting Bullzeye for a lame reason, but then you just jump in and back me up. Why?

Says she started to feel bad for suspecting Bullz. Could be genuine, which would mean Bullz is more likely to be town.

Spoiler: show

It stems mostly from how speedchuck assembled his reads list.

It started here:

Spoiler: show

So he starts with only some town reads, which is like, okay, some people process their thoughts like that. No yellow or orange reads yet which means that there was nothing pressing on his mind about bad guys yet.

Twenty minutes later, it looks like this:

Spoiler: show

Only two more civ reads given out, for Kyle and sprityo. But sprityo is colored a brighter shade of green, and he revises his coloring of JackofHearts2005 to match the sprityo color. Looking back at the context of the thread, Jack and sprityo were the two players that speedchuck was currently interacting with in between his first list and his second one.

Keeping all this in mind, all other names are colored either the yellow or the orange color and it looks slightly haphazard. Simon stands alone with his own shade of yellow on Speedchuck's list, this gives an unearned sense of depth to the list imo, as if Speed has thoughts about Simon that he's not sharing, which feels disingenuous because Simon's not exactly lighting up the thread with posts. It feels like a fake read.

His read on Luna feels a little fake here too, yellow. Speed and Luna are married iirc and they usually have some interaction with each other, if he had her as yellow I'd expect some heavier thoughts about it, but he's mostly avoided the topic of Luna, as you can see here.

Spoiler: show

Chuck sounds kinda scared of nutella here Why did he want to comment on this? It feels like he was provoked by this post yet is trying to downplay his reaction to it.

Spoiler: show

"I won't defend myself" sounds like a buzz phrase that Speedchuck is trying to knock off his Bad Bot Bingo board.

hmmm this is good analysis. I especially like your thoughts on his weird multi-step rainbow construction, because that did seem a little odd but I didn't really know what to do with it. But yeah starting with some town POE and then throwing on the yellows and oranges like that... could be fake.

Of all things to comment on about this analysis. I didn't know the way a rainbow list was created could be alignment-indicative

So you disagree? You don't think it's odd that he didn't start with any scum reads?

Not really, no. Most people don't post unfinished rainbows like that, so you don't know which way they started them. If speed were scum, he probably would have been more careful with creating the list and would not have posted it until it was done.

Okay, fair. What do you think of the placement of Simon specifically?

I don't know. I feel like everyone in the game is hesitant to go after Simon because he's younger, and they want to give him a chance to play. Perhaps that's why Speed wasn't sure how to place him, and he ended up in "not-acting-town-but-don't-want-to-go-after-him-orange"

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I don't think this is a particular good look for Simon.

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Luna defended and talked about Speed a lot.
Nova is probably not teamed with Luna.