Hogwarts Mafia - END

#4601

Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.

#4602

Postponed.

#4603

Yeah, I just checked back, and quin who claims to have postponed my kill night 1 said nothing at all day 2 as I started suddenly defending bullz and hinting that i had reasons.

#4604

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:37 am Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.

mate i've been hinting it for days

what do you think i was talking about when i went on about your night 1 with 3J?

#4605

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:46 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:37 am Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.
mate i've been hinting it for days

what do you think i was talking about when i went on about your night 1 with 3J?

Then give me your read on sloonei, please.

#4606

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:51 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:46 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:37 am Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.
mate i've been hinting it for days

what do you think i was talking about when i went on about your night 1 with 3J?
Then give me your read on sloonei, please.

scoff

#4607

I'm not playing "Hey let's all crawl so tightly up Quin's ass he can't sit down for the next 48 hours" game. Make it known now.

#4608

So... that's a no? K my vote stays for now. Got thinking to do

#4609

Do I see a baddie saying "I have a hallow please dont lynch me" ? Nah
Do I see a civvie saying "I have a hallow please don't lynch me" ? Equally nah.

#4610

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:21 am Do I see a baddie saying "I have a hallow please dont lynch me" ? Nah
Do I see a civvie saying "I have a hallow please don't lynch me" ? Equally nah.

what if the person in question said nothing at all about using the hallow as a defence

#4611

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:25 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:21 am Do I see a baddie saying "I have a hallow please dont lynch me" ? Nah
Do I see a civvie saying "I have a hallow please don't lynch me" ? Equally nah.
what if the person in question said nothing at all about using the hallow as a defence

I DUNNO MAN I AM TRYING TO SHITPOST UNTIL THE MAFIA HANG THEMSELVES

#4612

Having finished RDR2 I will actually be here and do that dumb boring shit I said I was gonna do tomorrow.

#4613

Going in blind I'd say 60/40 chances I changed my vote off Quin

#4614

Change, not changed. As in I'll change it after I do the ISOs

#4615

There is a lot of stuff that happened since my last post. Since I am more clueless than before, I will stick with my POE.

[VOTE: SLOONEI] aubergine

I think Owner, upon further reflection, was being bussed by INH. I think Owner also looked terrible, and I think Sloonei, upon inheriting the rolecard, has done his best to appear somewhat unengaged or separated from the action, and I think it’s an act. I’m sticking with this vote unless a new, compelling argument is made for someone else.

#4616

BTW, I scanned Ravenclaw with a Niffler earlier and waa told there is 1 Hallow. So if anybody else there has a Hallow, Quin would be lying. Speak now.

#4617

it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus

#4618

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:46 am it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus

Knight bus?

#4619

What is the argument for sprityo being town?

#4620

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:46 am it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus
Knight bus?

READ THE BOOKS

#4621

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:55 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:46 am it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus
Knight bus?
READ THE BOOKS

Sorry, its been a long time since I did and of course I never read the last two.

#4622

Ok I'm off to work, see you guys this afternoon.

#4623

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:51 am What is the argument for sprityo being town?

None!

#4624

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:34 am There is a lot of stuff that happened since my last post. Since I am more clueless than before, I will stick with my POE.

[VOTE: SLOONEI] aubergine

I think Owner, upon further reflection, was being bussed by INH. I think Owner also looked terrible, and I think Sloonei, upon inheriting the rolecard, has done his best to appear somewhat unengaged or separated from the action, and I think it’s an act. I’m sticking with this vote unless a new, compelling argument is made for someone else.

“I’m stuck on Day 1 so here’s a vote that reflects that.”

#4625

Nope.

#4626

Your vote is based off the behavior of the player I subbed in for on Night 2. You only address my entire involvement in this game to brush it aside with a wave of your hand. If you’re not stuck on Day 1, then you’re stuck on Day 2.

Give us an updated read. It’s Day 5. A lot has happened. What are your thoughts on Quin? Sprityo? Kara?

#4627

Also, RE: the notion thay I’m faking disengagement, I’ve been pretty open that I’m being cautious about signing up for games right now, this one included. I’m busy. It’s my first semester back at school in three years. I’m not going to throw huge amounts of time and energy into a mafia game. I signed up as a replacement for this one because I didn’t know if I’d actually be able to do it or not. You can say I’m wielding this as an excuse if you want, but to say outright that “it’s an act” when there’s evidence out the wazoo to the contrary is bordering on disingenuous.

#4628

I’ve given my reads. My POE remains the same without further developments.

And if you think I’m “stuck,” well, oh well. Owner did you no favors regardless of alignment and only fell off my radar because I thought INH wouldn’t bus that hard. But I’ve changed my mind. Nothing you’ve done since has signaled to me that you’re town on your own merit either, so ... here we are.

#4629

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:53 pm I’ve given my reads. My POE remains the same without further developments.

And if you think I’m “stuck,” well, oh well. Owner did you no favors regardless of alignment and only fell off my radar because I thought INH wouldn’t bus that hard. But I’ve changed my mind. Nothing you’ve done since has signaled to me that you’re town on your own merit either, so ... here we are.

What have I done? You say I haven’t established myself as a town read in your eyes. Why not?

Also what do you say to the argument that somebody made, I forget who, that INH rarely busses his teammates? How did he treat Long Con, for instance?

#4630

You haven’t done anything I can recall other than pop in to say you haven’t read the thread, deflect from the Owner arguments and defend yourself a lot. If you feel I’m minimizing your contributions then I apologize.

The more I think about it the more I am convinced the “script” was to bus Owner when it became clear she fucked up and then INH died unexpectedly changing the game a bit. Nothing will convince me otherwise until I see your flip and I really mean nothing.

#4631

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:04 pm You haven’t done anything I can recall other than pop in to say you haven’t read the thread, deflect from the Owner arguments and defend yourself a lot. If you feel I’m minimizing your contributions then I apologize.

This is a severely inadequate reading of me. I don’t even say that as a defensive statement. The player called Sloonei has done a lot more than you assign to him here. It’s as if you’re willfully not reading his posts. I was hoping you’d offer specific details in your read, but instead you just continued your dismissive hand-waving.

Also I haven’t addressed the Owner suspicions at all. I’ve deflected nothing. I am not Owner. I do not speak for them and they do not speak for me.

The more I think about it the more I am convinced the “script” was to bus Owner when it became clear she fucked up and then INH died unexpectedly changing the game a bit. Nothing will convince me otherwise until I see your flip and I really mean nothing.

This is a lazy cop out. Try harder.

What happened in the thread on Days 3 & 4?

#4632

Poutanko -

Suggests everyone claim town to making Veritiserum easier. Says she thinks Jay/Owner going too strong at their targets. Initial thoughts are wishy-washy "IDK if Jay is suss, some say yes some say know. He doesn't seem new but he doesn't seem old. Owner is weird but she's always weird." What results is a meaty looking post that essentially boils down to "IDK". Claims town. Good impression from Luna/Colin. Nudges Kara. Colin is strongest town read. Then Nutella, then Luna. Scum read on Kara for the "I am Town" debate. Pinged by Bullz' vote, Thinks Long Con stinks for his reaction to the Bullz suspicion. Defending Lap's inactivity. Bad vibes from INH "buddying" Clears Luna and Owner based on INH bussing them. Suspicious of Nutella. Says she scum read JC until she flipped town. Backs off Jay. Not seeing anything unusual from Jack/Luna. Pinged by Timmer's sudden appearance at the Bullz vote. Again more defending of Owner/Sloonei. here is a read/vibe list. The nutella placement jumps out. "I trust nutella. Then I suspect nutella, but now I trust her again." Yikes.

Comes out with "Colin is good, Bullz is bad" post. Wants a second wagon on Speed. here Another "read" list with very little to go on. Noteworthy given her criticism of Speed's reads earlier "So many townread".

Today voting for people who doubted her wrong claim about Speedchuck.

Overall thoughts: Some very suspicious parts in here. If she's bad though it'd be very sloppy play to come out with that Speedchuck read, insist on it being correct, and then kill him. I'm leaning Town on Poutanko.

#4633

What reason is there to believe that speedchuck was killed by the Death Eaters rather than a civilian?

#4634

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:15 pm What reason is there to believe that speedchuck was killed by the Death Eaters rather than a civilian?

I dunno. I suppose none. If a civ vigged Speed based on Poutanko's claim, then yeah obv. that's a bit of a problem.

#4635

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:15 pm What reason is there to believe that speedchuck was killed by the Death Eaters rather than a civilian?
I dunno. I suppose none. If a civ vigged Speed based on Poutanko's claim, then yeah obv. that's a bit of a problem.

This is what I think happened. I have no extra evidence to support it, but speed was the closest thing we had to a consensus suspect, so it makes the most sense to suspect that he was killed by a civilian. This doesn’t clear poutanko, obviously, so if anything I guess it’d make your points against her even stronger.
I’m still not sure I see a Death Eater in her posts, but I’m giving it more thought now. Especially since Colin’s vote right now is, as the kids say, garbo.

#4636

Eh I don't see a world that the mafia killed Speed. Poutanko more like Boo-tanko.

#4637

I’m not interested in arguing the point further Sloonei. I’m not going to convince you to lynch yourself and your questions are things I’ve already addressed. Sorry.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4638

Colin and poutanko are our scum who's with me

#4639

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:26 pm I’m not interested in arguing the point further Sloonei. I’m not going to convince you to lynch yourself and your questions are things I’ve already addressed. Sorry.

I’m only looking to be convinced that your vote is sincere. Right now it does not appear that way. My initial response was that you appeared to be stuck on Day 1 and you’ve said nothing to the contrary.

But we can move off the specific topic of your vote for now. What is your take on the current state of the thread?

#4640

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 pm Colin and poutanko are our scum who's with me

Sprityo and colin.

#4641

I'll do Luna and Quin later or maybe tomorrow before the vote.

#4642

@ColinIsCool gimme a read on sprityo please and thanks.

#4643

Sprit is pretty much not here. It’s not what I’m used to seeing from his scum game, and his act could be an easy shield to hide behind. If he wasn’t in my POE before he is now with Speed gone, but there’s no big case for me to hang my hat on.

#4644

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 pm Colin and poutanko are our scum who's with me

I don’t know anything about poutanko and the speedchuck stuff, but you really think that if poutanko were bad and my teammate, they would call a civ bad and a teammate good?

#4645

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:13 pm Poutanko -

Suggests everyone claim town to making Veritiserum easier. Says she thinks Jay/Owner going too strong at their targets. Initial thoughts are wishy-washy "IDK if Jay is suss, some say yes some say know. He doesn't seem new but he doesn't seem old. Owner is weird but she's always weird." What results is a meaty looking post that essentially boils down to "IDK". Claims town. Good impression from Luna/Colin. Nudges Kara. Colin is strongest town read. Then Nutella, then Luna. Scum read on Kara for the "I am Town" debate. Pinged by Bullz' vote, Thinks Long Con stinks for his reaction to the Bullz suspicion. Defending Lap's inactivity. Bad vibes from INH "buddying" Clears Luna and Owner based on INH bussing them. Suspicious of Nutella. Says she scum read JC until she flipped town. Backs off Jay. Not seeing anything unusual from Jack/Luna. Pinged by Timmer's sudden appearance at the Bullz vote. Again more defending of Owner/Sloonei. here is a read/vibe list. The nutella placement jumps out. "I trust nutella. Then I suspect nutella, but now I trust her again." Yikes.

Comes out with "Colin is good, Bullz is bad" post. Wants a second wagon on Speed. here Another "read" list with very little to go on. Noteworthy given her criticism of Speed's reads earlier "So many townread".

Today voting for people who doubted her wrong claim about Speedchuck.

Overall thoughts: Some very suspicious parts in here. If she's bad though it'd be very sloppy play to come out with that Speedchuck read, insist on it being correct, and then kill him. I'm leaning Town on Poutanko.

What makes you think the mafia killed Speedchuck and not Jay?

#4646

Disregard.

#4647

Wait, don't disregard. I'm wondering the same thing. I missed the logic for speed being killed by the mafia. So Jay was vigged?

#4648

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 pm Colin and poutanko are our scum who's with me

If you were going to fake claim cop would you say “My teammate is town. This innocent person is scum”?

You’d mix truth with a lie. Colin really is town. Speed isn’t actually scum.

I might do this because I like to fuck with things like the rule of 3 or “he wouldn’t say this about his teammate” but I don’t think most people would do this.

Are the Pout suspicions more coming from the Colin suspicions or vice versa?

#4649

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:47 pm Wait, don't disregard. I'm wondering the same thing. I missed the logic for speed being killed by the mafia. So Jay was vigged?

It was covered in the two posts after the one I quoted.

#4650

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 pm Colin and poutanko are our scum who's with me
I don’t know anything about poutanko and the speedchuck stuff, but you really think that if poutanko were bad and my teammate, they would call a civ bad and a teammate good?

I have no unique thoughts.