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[sabie12]

You're right I am pretty excited about the fact that I got a good role on my first game coming back!

IDK what a 'good role' is. If it means town (in general), then what's the point of this statement? 77% of the players in this game are town.

That was in reference to a comment that was made before it that I was responding to. I wouldn't have just randomly said that. Good role meaning town yes.

Ah, I see.

I probably just forgot to do the quote thing. I'm on mobile so it's a little wonky set up and everything. Just basically saying yeah I'm excited to get back into it and I believe the comment was about not being as excited about it when you get stuck with scummy roles.

[Lunalee]

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

[sabie12]

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

Is this mostly because quin hasn't posted much or partially because they voted for you? (I don't know everyone's pronouns so trying not to mess that up) looking back I really dont see a lot of contribution to the discussion from quin unless I missed something.

[Lunalee]

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

Is this mostly because quin hasn't posted much or partially because they voted for you? (I don't know everyone's pronouns so trying not to mess that up) looking back I really dont see a lot of contribution to the discussion from quin unless I missed something.

both, yeah. I don't want to "no u" vote anyone, but I feel better about voting Quin right now than anyone else.
Also, a tip on the pronouns thing. Some users have their gender listed under their avatar with the number of posts, date joined... etc. Quin's says male, so I think "he" is okay to use.

[sabie12]

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

Is this mostly because quin hasn't posted much or partially because they voted for you? (I don't know everyone's pronouns so trying not to mess that up) looking back I really dont see a lot of contribution to the discussion from quin unless I missed something.

both, yeah. I don't want to "no u" vote anyone, but I feel better about voting Quin right now than anyone else.
Also, a tip on the pronouns thing. Some users have their gender listed under their avatar with the number of posts, date joined... etc. Quin's says male, so I think "he" is okay to use.

Fair enough. He has been relatively absent and not doing a whole lot.
As I said before leaning dyslexicon at the moment due to a lot of random accusations with not much reasoning behind them even when asked about it. One response was raisins which I assume meant reasons but maybe Im wrong. Either way I'm putting my vote there for now.

[Lunalee]

Oh hey, [mention]sabie12[/mention] this is cool. Dyslexicon town-reads dunya and scum-reads you, then does "catch up" stuff and comes back and scum-reads you while town-reading dunya.

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] what was the basis for your first read list? And what drastically changed your views of dunya and sabie?

Town:
dunya
Quin
Speed
Daisy

Mafia?:
Turnip
Sabie

Others are whatever.

Reads be like

Townish:
sabie
Speed
Luna

Scummish:
dunya

Neutral:
Everyone else

Spoiler: show

I read sabie town cause I just do.
I'm very much following Speed's perspective. I do thing we have similar ways of thinking in games, but really my reason for thinking he's town is the "wait a minute" kind of turn at dunya.
Knd of want to yolo read Luna town for what I think are really unrealistic setup speculations. Am I dumb?
I don't really have a read on Turnip, but I don't find anything wrong in their posts.

dunya is really the only one that stands out to me that makes me go nope. Don't like the way she left me (even if the push itself was random), cause at that time I had said I scum read two players who were her town reads. The push on Speed doesn't seem to come from anywhere. Also also the calling out Speed for voting what could be PTs is lol, cause that's like exactly what she did. Thoughts?

I think dunya town read both Space and Quin (?) Would she do that if they were teamed?

[dunya]

I'm otherwise engaged for the rest of the evening. Think I've posted enough for a day phase. Have no inclination of switching my vote off Dizzy; based on poe, he's my best lynch choice today.

I have all the faith in the 6 other townies. Hope to see ya tomorrow, godspeed and good night.

[dunya]

I'd be ok with Dizzy, Luna or Quin being lynched today ftr. In that order, I suppose.

[speedchuck]

Knd of want to yolo read Luna town for what I think are really unrealistic setup speculations. Am I dumb?

So what's this mean?

[Dyslexicon]

dunya - The last scum game I remember was the Currents game. It's a rather old Heist game iirc. I haven't been scum in ages though, not here and not on any other site. It doesn't happen to me, cause I'm always town. Meow ^^

sabie - What reads do you think I've not explained. Cause I don't really feel like I have strong reads at all right now. If you're refering to my first read list those were just fake reads, cause I knew I wouldn't be able to post for a while and I hoped for some kind of reactions for when I had the time. I hadn't even read the thread then, just skimmed who was in the game from that page. That may seem strange to you, but flinging things around is what I do if I don't have any direction.

Problem this day is that I can't be around anymore, and I probably can't much of the weekend either.

I'm trying to take in what other's say about dunya. I really don't know about her, and maybe I'm just worried that she's scum and I don't want to let shit fly if she is. And this is pretty self-absorbed, but I noticed on this site I'm way more often seen as an "easy target" and am pushed more by scum than on my home site, especially with players who haven't played with me. Happened almost every game here actually. (I don't really think I'm an easy target myself, but that's another matter).

Another thing about dunya is I don't get why she's hung up on me. She mentioned intuition, which ok, I also have gut reads and vote based on that if it comes up, but at the same time when she said that she also gave a qualifier for the intution, me saying hi to her. Which is so random to me and can easily be checked if that is something I do in games or not. I don't even know if this makes sense to anyone but me, but I can't really get past this.

Anyway, likely won't be around when day ends and stuff, so I'm just going to ask that if people want to vote me it would be superb if they could at least say why.

I don't know who I want to vote for. Either I'll just leave my vote on Quin because he hasn't done much, which is not a great reason. Meow. Normally I'd be tempted to sheep a town read, but I don't even know if I have a town read. Maybe Speed, but I think most of all he just tends to make sense to me.

I have almost no concept of Space (lol). But if dunya is scum I'm thinking Space is almost certainly town.

[speedchuck]

do you have time to answer my query before you go dizzy

[Dyslexicon]

Oh hey, @sabie12 this is cool. Dyslexicon town-reads dunya and scum-reads you, then does "catch up" stuff and comes back and scum-reads you while town-reading dunya.

@Dyslexicon what was the basis for your first read list? And what drastically changed your views of dunya and sabie?

Those were just random reads I made up before even reading the game. Tried to make them at odds with what I skimmed on that page, but otherwise just random. Didn't get much out of it other than dunya removing her [mention]sabie12[/mention]

I thought I had made this clear, but maybe not. Cindy Kate culture is a bit different than PerC.

[Dyslexicon]

do you have time to answer my query before you go dizzy

Shoot!

[speedchuck]

Knd of want to yolo read Luna town for what I think are really unrealistic setup speculations. Am I dumb?

So what's this mean?

[Dyslexicon]

Knd of want to yolo read Luna town for what I think are really unrealistic setup speculations. Am I dumb?

So what's this mean?

Of this? So Luna speculated about the setup, it being a shooting town role and an extra scum kill, and that read genuine to me. And I really really don't think that's the setup, cause this game has so few players so a potential three kill night seems like over kill, literally, setup wise. Does that make sense? I haven't read back on that post from Luna though.

Others have been speculating about setup too, but that hasn't made an impression really.

[speedchuck]

Knd of want to yolo read Luna town for what I think are really unrealistic setup speculations. Am I dumb?

So what's this mean?

Of this? So Luna speculated about the setup, it being a shooting town role and an extra scum kill, and that read genuine to me. And I really really don't think that's the setup, cause this game has so few players so a potential three kill night seems like over kill, literally, setup wise. Does that make sense? I haven't read back on that post from Luna though.

Others have been speculating about setup too, but that hasn't made an impression really.

Ah, okay. I didn't connect that.

Makes decent sense to me, if you thought her setup spec was genuine.

[Lunalee]

Oh hey, sabie12 this is cool. Dyslexicon town-reads dunya and scum-reads you, then does "catch up" stuff and comes back and scum-reads you while town-reading dunya.

Dyslexicon what was the basis for your first read list? And what drastically changed your views of dunya and sabie?

Those were just random reads I made up before even reading the game. Tried to make them at odds with what I skimmed on that page, but otherwise just random. Didn't get much out of it other than dunya removing her sabie12

I thought I had made this clear, but maybe not. Cindy Kate culture is a bit different than PerC.

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

[Dyslexicon]

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

Lol, in my very first game here I faked a scum slip. The drama was beautiful, and I caught Marmot for it (or that's how I like to remember it (but like, I did))

[Lunalee]

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

Lol, in my very first game here I faked a scum slip. The drama was beautiful, and I caught Marmot for it (or that's how I like to remember it (but like, I did))

Lol, what game was that?

[Dyslexicon]

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

Lol, in my very first game here I faked a scum slip. The drama was beautiful, and I caught Marmot for it (or that's how I like to remember it (but like, I did))

Lol, what game was that?

I think it was called Phenon.
Actually, it may not have been my first game, but it was an early one.

Sorry if you've posted already, but do you have any comprehensive reads? Don't think I have a clear idea of where your head is at

[Dyslexicon]

Back to reading the dictionary.

[speedchuck]

I townread Dyslexicon and Spacedaisy
I don't have any feelings toward Turnip head.
Luna is hard for me to personally read, and I've been back and forth on her. Light townread. I think Dizzy made a good point, and Luna not remembering scum Dunya is normal to me. I didn't remember scumya in AG and I was on her team. (I was thinking of Fire Emblem when it first came up)
I'd rather not lynch Sabie with this being D1. They've been very non-committal, so I don't have anything hard to nail down one way or another.
Still have my suspicions about Dunya, though I found yet another post that made her read on me seem more genuine. IDK.

Quin jumped all over people about the no-lynch stuff for no reason. I thought initially that it was a good look for him, but rereading it has me changing my mind.

Quin got on to Luna and Dunya about them crapping on No Lynch. Luna actually did vote TH over a no-lynch, while Dunya just asked him for a case while saying no-lynches were anti-town. Quin grouped those two in together because "scum never suggest no lynches and they should know that" (I've been scum and tricked town into a no-lynch before, and Quin was scum with me at the time, but that's beside the point.)
I don't think I could get anything scummy out of Luna and Dunya's posts. It's not like they were condemning TH. Just prodding him, and Dunya didn't even do it over the no-lynch as much as the unexplained vote.

I'm not against a Dunya or Quin lynch. Sabie and TH, though I need to look over them again, aren't off the options list. I could be convinced on Luna if someone cares to do so.

We have 4 hours. I'll be in and out.

[speedchuck]

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

Lol, in my very first game here I faked a scum slip. The drama was beautiful, and I caught Marmot for it (or that's how I like to remember it (but like, I did))

Lol, what game was that?

I think it was called Phenon.
Actually, it may not have been my first game, but it was an early one.

Sorry if you've posted already, but do you have any comprehensive reads? Don't think I have a clear idea of where your head is at

It was Phenon. Also my first game. I was the SK.

[sabie12]

why sabie, Dizzy? what's with the back and forth?

also i'm going to have dinner. bye for now.

Mostly wanted to see if I missed voting for you tbh : p

Also, other raisins that I will keep to myself.

That was the one post I was referring to but I guess now I dont know what was meant by that. Reasons for suspecting or just saying that because you didnt know what else to say at the time. It seemed weird to me upon first read.

I do understand being busy and struggling to find time to catch up. I have that problem sometimes too.

I do see the case against quin as there was a vote there with no explanation as well and lack of any kind of contribution in the conversation that I've found. I'm going to have to look over quins posts again. Might be something there.

[sabie12]

Eh keeping my vote as is for now. Gotta go live my life for awhile and eat dinner and such.

[Spacedaisy]

I just ISOed Quin (it was almost as time consuming as an ISO on me would be :P) and I have to say I do not like this lynch.

I like the way Quin looks. I don't think he is scum. If he is bad then either TH or dunya is his teamie. But otherwise I cant see any reason for him to take such upset with people coming out against no lynch. If he was bad and none of his teammates are involved in the situation, what benefit is there to his reaction?

I haven't felt like dunya was bad. But she has fooled me before. But it wasn't over this kind of thing and I just think her behavior reads more civ than bad atm.

Luna, of those involved in the no lynch conversation she was the one that stood out to me. She didn't lead anything, but she put her support behind what dunya said about no lynches. Then she clarified that this is not where she expected her vote to stay, so a pressure vote? I do find it weird though that she seemed to have an honest reasons she suspected TH but then switched to Quin for just not being engaged enough? If Luna is bad she is probably protecting someone with votes, either dunya or Dizzy.

The brings us to Dizzy. Dizzy's reaction to dunya saying something about a godfather in response to speedchuck is interesting to me. It seems like I felt, I didn't see any of that stuff mentioned in the roles. But i kept quiet and just pretended i knew what was going on, because i felt stupid, lol. That said, I find it interesting that Dizzy questioned it in connection with dunya's answer, but doesnt seem fazed by the fact that speedchuck talked about a cop role. I would like to know [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] how you feel about speedchuck. In fact you also quote Turnip Head discussing how a cop and doctor should handle their roles. Given the fact that Dizzy only reacts to dunya and not so much to TH and speedchuck and the fact there are only two baddies on the team. I'm inclined to think this isn't a teammate tell though.

A question for all: How many of us read the set up before the game started? How many of us have read the setup by now?

This is frustrating, I don't feel like the top three vote earners are bad. I'm actually feeling Turnip Head and speedchuck at the moment. I feel like speed's question was crafted to try and trap dunya who apparently seemed to turniphead to have soft claimed cop? I didn't see this, but I'm not good at catching hints and soft claims. I wish one of them had votes still...

Is anyone around that might be interested in lynching TH or speedchuck?

[Spacedaisy]

I have nothing on sabie ftr, and obviously nothing on nova either. I'm hoping he will be replaced.

[Spacedaisy]

I just realized my board settings were for Pacific time. I have three more hours still to decide. Going to go ISO TH and speed.

[speedchuck]

This is frustrating, I don't feel like the top three vote earners are bad. I'm actually feeling Turnip Head and speedchuck at the moment. I feel like speed's question was crafted to try and trap dunya who apparently seemed to turniphead to have soft claimed cop?

It undoubtably was. But I was trying to trap scum, not town

[Spacedaisy]

Yeah I don't like the look of Turnip Head. He latched onto dunya from the start, jokingly at first it seemed. Then seems to have just stayed with it. He hasn't made any real case aside from her early PoE. Also, he hasn't really commented on anyone else, just seems to have agreed with the case put out by others on dunya. His only other commentary on anyone else was town reading speed and giving a totally non committal statement on luna. I don't like his look.

Going to read speedchuck and sabie now.

linki: Or like TH you suspected she was claiming cop and were trying to get a feel for that under the guise of trying to trap scum. I'm unconvinced of your motives right now. That said I haven't ISOed you yet, that may change my mind.

I do not think dunya is bad. Even less so with all the conversation surrounding the power roles.

[Spacedaisy]

Nah dude, I'm reading what you did and it was incessant questioning to get the answer you wanted. I don't know for sure it makes you bad, but I think yopu pushed until you got what you wanted. If you ask someone a question over and over, continually refining your point, eventually the person will see what you are wanting them to actually answer and give it to them. I don't know that you had bad intent, but I do think you overplayed it and that's why you got the answer you did, not because dunya was bad and slipped. reading it now it looks like you really thought you had something going into it though. Even if I disagree with your assessment of it. Going to finish your ISO and decide what I think of you. Then I'll ISO dunya to make sure I don't think my gut is wrong. For a second something I saw TH say made me doubt it, but when I read her response I felt like it was the civ response I would expect.

[Spacedaisy]

Actually, I misstated that. It was something speedchuck said, not something TH said. ISOs all run together if you aren't careful lol.

[Spacedaisy]

Reread Daisy's ISO. It's not as bad as I thought. The couple of things that pinged me are just throwaway comments, and they may just be how she plays. It's been a while since I've played with Spacedaisy.

Out of curiosity, what were these things?

[Spacedaisy]

Ok, I think I am back to seeing you as town Speed. I like the way your reads develop, they don't just stay consistent. If you are bad you could've just held onto the dunya case like a dog with a bone and I don't think anyone would have seen you as bad.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] Can you tell me what about TH you see is town?

Going to read sabie first and then dunya now.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey gang, I cannot make the colors work. Anyway I am in a sticky situation and may not be able to get to the EOD post on time. Either way the night phase will still end on schedule, so send actions early if you want.

[Spacedaisy]

I like sabie's look. Sabie would be my last choice for a lynch. Which is frustrating. It means either Nova is bad or someone who is bad looks good to me.

Possibly Luna or Quin maybe?

I'll read dunya now.

[Spacedaisy]

No I really don't see a baddie dunya here.

I'm going to roll the dice and [VOTE: Quin] aubergine here, for the fact I could see a Quin/TH pairing. And I really think TH is a baddie here. Also Quin is the one that I feel has the weakest town lean from me right now.

[Quin]

wow so i woke up late

jfc

[speedchuck]

I've had a busy afternoon. I'll address your stuff during the night SD.

[Dyslexicon]

I just ISOed Quin (it was almost as time consuming as an ISO on me would be :P) and I have to say I do not like this lynch.

I like the way Quin looks. I don't think he is scum. If he is bad then either TH or dunya is his teamie. But otherwise I cant see any reason for him to take such upset with people coming out against no lynch. If he was bad and none of his teammates are involved in the situation, what benefit is there to his reaction?

I haven't felt like dunya was bad. But she has fooled me before. But it wasn't over this kind of thing and I just think her behavior reads more civ than bad atm.

Luna, of those involved in the no lynch conversation she was the one that stood out to me. She didn't lead anything, but she put her support behind what dunya said about no lynches. Then she clarified that this is not where she expected her vote to stay, so a pressure vote? I do find it weird though that she seemed to have an honest reasons she suspected TH but then switched to Quin for just not being engaged enough? If Luna is bad she is probably protecting someone with votes, either dunya or Dizzy.

The brings us to Dizzy. Dizzy's reaction to dunya saying something about a godfather in response to speedchuck is interesting to me. It seems like I felt, I didn't see any of that stuff mentioned in the roles. But i kept quiet and just pretended i knew what was going on, because i felt stupid, lol. That said, I find it interesting that Dizzy questioned it in connection with dunya's answer, but doesnt seem fazed by the fact that speedchuck talked about a cop role. I would like to know @Dyslexicon how you feel about speedchuck. In fact you also quote Turnip Head discussing how a cop and doctor should handle their roles. Given the fact that Dizzy only reacts to dunya and not so much to TH and speedchuck and the fact there are only two baddies on the team. I'm inclined to think this isn't a teammate tell though.

A question for all: How many of us read the set up before the game started? How many of us have read the setup by now?

This is frustrating, I don't feel like the top three vote earners are bad. I'm actually feeling Turnip Head and speedchuck at the moment. I feel like speed's question was crafted to try and trap dunya who apparently seemed to turniphead to have soft claimed cop? I didn't see this, but I'm not good at catching hints and soft claims. I wish one of them had votes still...

Is anyone around that might be interested in lynching TH or speedchuck?

Not really sure what you’re saying or if you have a question for me here (?)

Regarding Speed I feel ok about him. I know I had a reason to think town but I don’t remember now eh...

[Dyslexicon]

wow so i woke up late

jfc

I never fell asleep >_>

Also, hi! You about to die : p

[Dyslexicon]

I think I like Spacey

[Dyslexicon]

Spacey, I think Speed had a hmm-moment, like he just had a thought and went «wait a minute», and that reads town to me. Scum has a harder time doing that imo. Should review that thing though

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Quin has been lynched. He was:

Spoiler: show

Chinese or Maybe Russian or Australian or even Lunar Alien with space plasma nukes - During each night phase, you may select a player. You will be informed of that player's role.

Separately, once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player's role will not function as intended. There is a 50% chance an action will be misdirected to a random target if applicable. Otherwise, the action will be blocked.

Lastly, once during Night 1 (but not later), you may select a player. If that player is a vanilla spaceman or a vanilla spacewoman, his or her vote will not count during Day 2.

You may use your abilities concurrently if you desire.

It’s Night 1. I’ll give you a proper host post later.

[Dyslexicon]

Quin, if you’re town, I’d like to know

Linki omg!!!!

[Dyslexicon]

Awesome.

And good night : D

[Lunalee]

[speedchuck]

Hot Take: None of the Quin voters are scum.

That leaves:
Speed
TH
Dunya
Sabie
Nova

Nice job Quin voters.

[sabie12]

Was gonna vote quin couldnt decide for sure glad you guys got him. Good job guys! One down one to go!

[Turnip Head]

My first reaction is that I look like Quin's teammate