Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

[Kylemii]

Yeah if someone votes to break ties that's also worth looking at but what I'm saying is if someone votes to cause a tie, and especially if that tie then breaks against whoever they voted for, that's a red flag for me

when did this start? was this always your opinion on ties? i don't remember this coming up before and i feel like it would have, cus i basically do that constantly

he's talking about tribunal

yeah i've gathered that. it's just that i don't remember ever seeing DH voicing or acting on strong opinions regarding ties before, even in other games where ties weren't randomized.

[insertnamehere]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

this post irks me

[Sloonei]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

this post irks me

Why?

[Sloonei]

With all the talk of tying up lunches and the tribunal it does look like some of the roles impact the amount of votes people have on them anyway. So that would mean there is a potential for a situation to appear as a tie and then not really be that if someone has minus votes or extra secret votes put on them or whatever right? Or would the tribunal players know that information prior to their input?

It appears there is definitely potential for unseen vote manipulation in the mechanics. I would assume that if we have a poll that appears tied, but is actually not due to unseen mechanics, the tribunal would not decide anything, nor would they be told what's going on. My assumption is that the tribunal is only consulted if the poll is tied after the hosts have accounted for all vote manipulations and mechanics.

[ColinIsCool]

Hey Colllllllin, aren't you gonna acknowledge my vote, Collllllin?

Nope

[insertnamehere]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

this post irks me

Why?

it's short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I'd be somewhat suspicious. But it's G-Man, so I don't know if the needle moves much.

[insertnamehere]

I love this whole "trust-team" idea that JOH and CBob are throwing around.

Anyone want to openly team up with me? I'm an honorable, trustworthy person, according to the most trustworthy person I know, who is of course myself.

[ColinIsCool]

If I can't check in tomorrow I don't want my vote to be on cbob as a joke, so I am publicly announcing a [VOTE: DDL] aubergine wagon contribution for the foreseeable future.

[Sloonei]

Hey Colllllllin, aren't you gonna acknowledge my vote, Collllllin?

Nope

why not?

[Sloonei]

If I can't check in tomorrow I don't want my vote to be on cbob as a joke, so I am publicly announcing a [VOTE: DDL] aubergine wagon contribution for the foreseeable future.

Boooo

[Epignosis]

I love this whole "trust-team" idea that JOH and CBob are throwing around.

Anyone want to openly team up with me? I'm an honorable, trustworthy person, according to the most trustworthy person I know, who is of course myself.

Sure. Let's be friends.

[Sloonei]

That was angry disapproval booing, not spooky ghost booing. To be clear.

[Epignosis]

That was angry disapproval booing, not spooky ghost booing. To be clear.

Lots of ghosts are angry and disapproving, you know.

[Sloonei]

That was angry disapproval booing, not spooky ghost booing. To be clear.

Lots of ghosts are angry and disapproving, you know.

I'd hate to be on the wrong end of ghost scorn.

[Tranq]

I love this whole "trust-team" idea that JOH and CBob are throwing around.

Anyone want to openly team up with me? I'm an honorable, trustworthy person, according to the most trustworthy person I know, who is of course myself.

If G-Man sent you a friend request, would you accept or ignore it?

[DharmaHelper]

Anyway I've ranked the people who have currently voted from most to least suspicious as of me typing this post without being linkied into any other votes:


Cbob - "His posting" is a funny but ultimately hollow and wormy way to explain the Colin vote
Colin - "No U" vote was cheeky but still bad.
Chuck - Did not give a reason for his DDL vote which IIRC came close to if not directly after Epi said he'd be voting DDL. Chuck pulling up to the train station early AF to save himself a seat.
Sloonei - Voting for anyone based on other people's reasons for suspecting people is suspicious to me. Make your own points. Stand on your own ground.
TH - Early vote for Sorsha for a hollow, funny reason. Doesn't look serious. Sorsha's not done anything overtly suspicious. Could be buddying/distancing but not worth losing my shit over instantly.
Epi - His DDL vote makes sense, he gave a good reason and was consistent.

I read this the first time but it's not exactly meaty by your standards. Why requote it?

Added Colin.

[DharmaHelper]

Yeah if someone votes to break ties that's also worth looking at but what I'm saying is if someone votes to cause a tie, and especially if that tie then breaks against whoever they voted for, that's a red flag for me

when did this start? was this always your opinion on ties? i don't remember this coming up before and i feel like it would have, cus i basically do that constantly

In this game. Specifically given the tribunal mechanic. Taking random chance/host discretion out of the ties and making the decision one that the player(s) make (i.e one that can be influenced by in game factors).

[MacDougall]

Picture looks fine.

I can vote after having posted. Looks like DH saw he couldn't vote, posted, and then pooped about not being able to vote without realising he should now be able to.

Weird post.

Jack is bad

I was just about to give you a weird tell bad read.

Huh

[DharmaHelper]

Yeah if someone votes to break ties that's also worth looking at but what I'm saying is if someone votes to cause a tie, and especially if that tie then breaks against whoever they voted for, that's a red flag for me

when did this start? was this always your opinion on ties? i don't remember this coming up before and i feel like it would have, cus i basically do that constantly

he's talking about tribunal

yeah i've gathered that. it's just that i don't remember ever seeing DH voicing or acting on strong opinions regarding ties before, even in other games where ties weren't randomized.

I dunno if I have or haven't. Except a few times in games wherein I thought ties would be funny. And that one game that we made a 4 or 5 way tie or w/e that was pretty funny.

[DharmaHelper]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

this post irks me

Why?

it's short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I'd be somewhat suspicious. But it's G-Man, so I don't know if the needle moves much.

Fuckin incredible troll.

[DharmaHelper]

If I can't check in tomorrow I don't want my vote to be on cbob as a joke, so I am publicly announcing a [VOTE: DDL] aubergine wagon contribution for the foreseeable future.

Yikes.

[MacDougall]

Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.

I’ll hold your hand, bae.

[Revealdatspoiler]but only cause I miss you and also because I was kinda planning to sheep you, Sloonei and Speedchuck for the first half of the game anyway. And cause my Narya. Also cause I know you know you can’t just buddy me that easily in a lasting way so this doesn’t do you any good if you’re not town. Like I legit think this is a town indicative thing for you to say. Maybe a 3P one but statistics show you’re more likely town than 3P.[/revealdatspoiler]

Jack is bad

[MacDougall]

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

Lynch Enrique

This is the game where I have no original thoughts.

Scum making light of his scum underpants showing.

[MacDougall]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

this post irks me

Why?

it's short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I'd be somewhat suspicious. But it's G-Man, so I don't know if the needle moves much.

You're bad.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: jack] aubergine get dat boy

[MacDougall]

I would give DH a town read but I am scorned after Hogwarts. I will never trust another DH as long as I live.

Sloonei though. He's being a real trusty boi.

[DharmaHelper]

I would give DH a town read but I am scorned after Hogwarts. I will never trust another DH as long as I live.

Sloonei though. He's being a real trusty boi.

[Sloonei]

I would give Mac a town read but I don't think he deserves one.

[MacDougall]

I would give Mac a town read but I don't think he deserves one.

What if I pay you?

[MacDougall]

Mr Sloo. Tell me how I can do better for you missah. You want me to shine up your shoes real good like? Or maybe wash your feet real good like?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

This post is an amazing piece of wisdom and logic that doesn't acrually do any scumhuting.

[Enrique]

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

You bad?

I am a civilian.

You won a game as a serial killer a few months ago, and now you're gonna downgrade your playstyle by adopting a truth meta?

Lame.

the truth meta is for this game only

[MacDougall]

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

You bad?

I am a civilian.

You won a game as a serial killer a few months ago, and now you're gonna downgrade your playstyle by adopting a truth meta?

Lame.

the truth meta is for this game only

Me too.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

To me the only reason a person would vote to tie a lynch that they weren't in danger in is because they are on the tribunal or know who is and they want to save the person that is in the lead during the un-tied period.

Significantly more plausible baddie motives RE: Ties.

Knowing more than meets the eye is far from the only reason that ties happen. At EOD it does look suspicious but it happens many times during the day phase as well. Some people have hunches about and reads on people that lead them to tie up the poll. Poll momentum shifts as the day progresses as well. Your post is very short-sighted, reactive, and dismissive. Anyone else posting it and I’d be somewhat suspicious. But you’re you, so I don’t know if the needle moves much.

The wisdom continues. G-Man knows how to play mafia.

I am hyped to see him actually playing.

[VOTE: G-Man] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

You bad?

I am a civilian.

You won a game as a serial killer a few months ago, and now you're gonna downgrade your playstyle by adopting a truth meta?

Lame.

the truth meta is for this game only

Then it's not really a meta is it

[Sloonei]

Mr Sloo. Tell me how I can do better for you missah. You want me to shine up your shoes real good like? Or maybe wash your feet real good like?

Why am I town? Why is Jack bad?

[Sloonei]

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

You bad?

I am a civilian.

You won a game as a serial killer a few months ago, and now you're gonna downgrade your playstyle by adopting a truth meta?

Lame.

the truth meta is for this game only

who bad?

[MacDougall]

Mr Sloo. Tell me how I can do better for you missah. You want me to shine up your shoes real good like? Or maybe wash your feet real good like?

Why am I town? Why is Jack bad?

1. I am really good at tone reading people
2. I have a sixth sense for Darth Sloo and I do not sense him
3. Jack ... is bad?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I hate this argument about ties. It's full of WIFOM and NAI and general inconclusive waste of time.

Someone tieing a poll could mean literally anything, such as... wanting that person to be lynched.

[MacDougall]

"Never Forget"

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Actually I have to confess I attacked G-Man's second post after just glancing at it and deciding he wasn't doing any hunting, then I actually bothered to read it thoroughly and noticed he tried to read DH.

Still think he is talking about ties way too much so I'll keep my vote there for now.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What do you think of the reason I gave for voting for Tranq, DH? It was your post, after all.

Tranq's post RE: "the poll is meaningless" struck me as disingenuous. Like he wanted to find something to say and wanted to feign ignorance.

It's a suspicious thing to have said on his part, and a good reason to vote for him.

My thoughts eggzacktly, but I give him less meh for his explanation just now.

It's less suspicious of you to articulate those reasons instead of parroting me twice.

I do not care about this right now.

Sloonei releasing his inner Jay, down to the "fuck you and your opinion about me" thing.

[Sloonei]

Mr Sloo. Tell me how I can do better for you missah. You want me to shine up your shoes real good like? Or maybe wash your feet real good like?

Why am I town? Why is Jack bad?

1. I am really good at tone reading people
2. I have a sixth sense for Darth Sloo and I do not sense him
3. Jack ... is bad?

Your sixth sense has picked up on Darth Sloo in our previous two games together despite him not being there. What's different now?
Why is Jack bad?

[Turnip Head]

I want to watch Dougall wash Sloon's feet #truthmeta

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Tranq acted like a pro-active hunter early then he weirdly changed his demeanor to a more reactive and passive one.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Mac is supatowing

Sloonei also feels like supatowning but in a way that's not so hard to fake

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Has anyone seen Quin? At this point I'd expect to see him angrily hissing at the people accusing him.

[Sloonei]

Mac is supatowing

Sloonei also feels like supatowning but in a way that's not so hard to fake

That's funny because I feel like Mac is just spewing Macdougall Meta 101 bullshit and it reads as phony baloney garbo.

[Turnip Head]

Mac is supatowing

Sloonei also feels like supatowning but in a way that's not so hard to fake

We're getting pretty loose with the term supatowning these days. Can't easily fake supatown.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Could be but I just have never seen mafia Mac get away with that so I'm not that paranoid about it.

I mean I played with him as a baddie and he just lazily coasted and bandwagoned to victory.