Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

Tell me more about this chucker of speed.

On my phone now so I’ll drop some bullets:

~ When he involved himself in the busy thread I wasn’t left feeling any impression (and neutrality is a negative for him to me).

~ His suspicion of you reads kinda fake right now.

~ His initial response to my suspicion was less than weak.

~ He isn’t holding up the standard we’ve set for the game pace, and slackchuck isn’t getting a break.

Word, dude.

[sabie12]

Nova is definitely different this game than I've seen him recently. He usually slides by for awhile before posting anything. Maybe he has someone to talk to now and he does have teammates and he doesn't like that I suggested that so he wants to get rid of me early on.
Sloot is starting to get back into it. Usually he is the one stirring the pot getting conversations going.
The two people I don't think I've ever played with voted nutella. I didn't necessarily see anything overly suspicious on nutella as of yet.
I can see where the suspicion of speed and jack may come from but idk sometimes I can't really get good reads on people on day one. I know someone will say sabie elaborate on why you say this. And I'm like idk yet.
I also don't recall if I've played with jjj before I think I just played in his games. I've seen people play in this game style of let's get people talking and it's usually civs just trying to get a discussion going.

[reywaS]

I'm liking Nutella

yes...very likable. I can't read her for shit though from a mafia perspective lmao.

[Jackofhearts2005]

B

Dig in!

I already did. Something smelled fishy when I was catching up. I sensed a lot of energy moving in one direction coming from a lot of folks, but then Jack’s posts did not seem to be in sync with that energy. He seemed to be moving against it.

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

The fuck are you talking about? Naysaying?

[speedchuck]

Are we still doing the two townreads two scumreads thing, or am I too late to the party?

[speedchuck]

Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

[reywaS]

my mafia/civ or civ/mafia reads in a particular order:

JackofHearts2005
Sloonei
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay

[reywaS]

damn dog i need a new dru...i mean avatar

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

I’d like to hear more about all of those.

[speedchuck]

my mafia/civ or civ/mafia reads in a particular order:

JackofHearts2005
Sloonei
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay

I don't actually know what this means

[speedchuck]

Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

I’d like to hear more about all of those.

Been townreading Sloonei since "Whacke". He's been great under some amount of pressure early on. That townread solidified when he defended Sabie, referencing the delicious MYLO from last game. I KNOW that's genuine. I was there. He hasn't been sucking up to the powers that be, hasn't been "trying too hard" (in nutella's words) to seem consistent or give thoughts on everyone. He just steps in where he sees a need and keeps his D0/D1 chill. I like it.

Elohcin hasn't done too much. She came in, made a catch-up post, and then left. But most of it reeked of sincerity, to me. It's partly a vibe I'm getting, but I'll try to explain it. When she was making the catch up post, she commented and gave her take on 4-5 things. Some of it had been said before, some of it she took a small step further. It didn't seem like she was trying to fake any thoughts, nor like she was straining for original content.

I guess both of these just seem too chill under the 'Jay Spray' for me to think them scum.

[reywaS]

my mafia/civ or civ/mafia reads in a particular order:

JackofHearts2005
Sloonei
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay

I don't actually know what this means

sure you do. Those are my townx2scumx2 reads. Everyone else did it, so i felt peer pressured to also do it. Get it?

[speedchuck]

my mafia/civ or civ/mafia reads in a particular order:

JackofHearts2005
Sloonei
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay

I don't actually know what this means

sure you do. Those are my townx2scumx2 reads. Everyone else did it, so i felt peer pressured to also do it. Get it?

Oh, they were all together so I thought...

I was like...

Which is which though?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Scum reads too, velocitycharles

[speedchuck]

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

I buy that JJJ scumreads me because his standards for townchuck are apparently ridiculous.
I buy that nutella suspects me because she does that.
I don't buy that Jack actually thinks I've buddied Jay. Fake reason. Bleg.

Nova however is buddying the everlovin' hecking bejeezus out of JJJ.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nova however is buddying the everlovin' hecking bejeezus out of JJJ.

Show me.

[speedchuck]

Hullo guys

speedchuck entry posts in his last six games:

Spoiler: show

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Socky Awards, Mafia

I will do my best.

2018 GOC, Civilian

Also I checked the poll results and now I can't vote.

I think that just happens with non changeable votes? IDK.

Also hi.

World Asunder, Mafia

I'm never bad.

SPACE FORCE, Civilian

This looks freaking amazing.

Hello my fellow slytherins.

Hogwarts, Civilian

Speedchuck for president of the flames

Outpost 31, Civilian

Two of them featuring a greeting ("hi" or "hello"). The mafia version of the greeting is inserted by force; the civilian version is smoov like buttah. His Shockheaded Peter greeting is relatively smoov like relative buttah.

Clear, obvious civilian.

I was just doing this

I don't want to call Nova a liar, as this would be a silly thing to lie about unless being joke-y, but really tho? That specific thing?

Participation just makes me heart swell, and it puts me in such a lovely mood.

This man is Town.

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Aren't you going to participate?

After being one of the first to respond, Nova sends back a friendly nudge.

27 minutes since the last post

Almost exactly like a post JJJ made earlier in the game. Riffing off that post, clearly.

Departure from normal Nova play.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hullo guys

speedchuck entry posts in his last six games:

Spoiler: show

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Socky Awards, Mafia

I will do my best.

2018 GOC, Civilian

Also I checked the poll results and now I can't vote.

I think that just happens with non changeable votes? IDK.

Also hi.

World Asunder, Mafia

I'm never bad.

SPACE FORCE, Civilian

This looks freaking amazing.

Hello my fellow slytherins.

Hogwarts, Civilian

Speedchuck for president of the flames

Outpost 31, Civilian

Two of them featuring a greeting ("hi" or "hello"). The mafia version of the greeting is inserted by force; the civilian version is smoov like buttah. His Shockheaded Peter greeting is relatively smoov like relative buttah.

Clear, obvious civilian.

Hot damn.

@leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck @Sloonei

leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck Sloonei

Y tho

Town JJJ is supah hot fire. Or, at least he can be.

As scum, he can only fake that intensity and proactivity.

Examples: Phenon: Origins. JJJ was pretty chill in that game and only made it through the last day due to town complacency and his emotional pleas, not because of firey town hunting.
Mountain Mafia also had a scum JJJ in it. His arguments, through D3, fell flat. The usual effort wasn't there, and it was more about half-hearted bussing and opportunistic arguments than genuine 'stirring the pot'.

If JJJ keeps up his current attitude, and keeps people on their toes, I'm comfortable labeling him town. It is still pending, though. Give him a few days.

This isn’t buddying?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What is nova’s “normal play”?

[Sloonei]

Nova town

[speedchuck]

Hullo guys

speedchuck entry posts in his last six games:

Spoiler: show

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Socky Awards, Mafia

I will do my best.

2018 GOC, Civilian

Also I checked the poll results and now I can't vote.

I think that just happens with non changeable votes? IDK.

Also hi.

World Asunder, Mafia

I'm never bad.

SPACE FORCE, Civilian

This looks freaking amazing.

Hello my fellow slytherins.

Hogwarts, Civilian

Speedchuck for president of the flames

Outpost 31, Civilian

Two of them featuring a greeting ("hi" or "hello"). The mafia version of the greeting is inserted by force; the civilian version is smoov like buttah. His Shockheaded Peter greeting is relatively smoov like relative buttah.

Clear, obvious civilian.

Hot damn.

@leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck @Sloonei

leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck Sloonei

Y tho

Town JJJ is supah hot fire. Or, at least he can be.

As scum, he can only fake that intensity and proactivity.

Examples: Phenon: Origins. JJJ was pretty chill in that game and only made it through the last day due to town complacency and his emotional pleas, not because of firey town hunting.
Mountain Mafia also had a scum JJJ in it. His arguments, through D3, fell flat. The usual effort wasn't there, and it was more about half-hearted bussing and opportunistic arguments than genuine 'stirring the pot'.

If JJJ keeps up his current attitude, and keeps people on their toes, I'm comfortable labeling him town. It is still pending, though. Give him a few days.

This isn’t buddying?

"Hot damn, I already have a townread"
"JJJ is acting like town JJJ"
"I explain how JJJ is acting like town JJJ"

I... don't think so?

[speedchuck]

What is nova’s “normal play”?

Let's ignore the games where he doesn't show up.

About half the time, Nova is very reactive. Every post he makes matters, but he doesn't make a ton of them, especially early.

The other half of the time, Nova is very involved, but not quite a top poster. He's never the type to ride anyone else's coattails, and I've never seen him push for the thread to be more active.

This is all going off my memory, though, because I'm lazy.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have some thoughts about your assertions of nova buddying me, speedchuck, but I want him to respond before I do.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jack and speedchuck are both mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack and speedchuck are both mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If anyone takes this seriously, it's their own fault. I'm in the lab at 1:00 AM, help me.

Spoiler: show

Get back to work, Johnson.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[insert my analysis of speedchuck's entry posts here]

I don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

He opposed my rationale in what was definitely not a meaningful or thorough analysis. He knows it's wrong.

I don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

What precisely drives your belief in my belief?

The time investment. It's not much of a joke if you don't actually believe it.

wot wood u say m8 if I told you 'at moi only real ping of the game so far 'as come from speedchuck?

I would say your accent is horrendous. Is it because Speedchuck's accent is worse? Or the Nutella push? I think it's the Nutella push.

He was already mindful of reasons why speedchuck might be viewed with suspicion, but he didn't say it himself until I provided the platform.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

This reads does not read authentically to me.

Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

He crammed Jack in as a scum read next to a more controversial and eye-grabbing name.

I don't buy that Jack actually thinks I've buddied Jay. Fake reason. Bleg.

This reads no better than Jack's accusation did.

"Hot damn, I already have a townread"
"JJJ is acting like town JJJ"
"I explain how JJJ is acting like town JJJ"

I... don't think so?

Jack lobbed up a big juicy pile of quotes with the implication "you're being a hypocrite", and speedchuck wimpered this ellipsis/question mark timidness.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hi everyone! I'm here. This should be a good group

We got one.

Oh yes, nova. Oh sweet glorious YES. Tell me more about the feelings sabie's post invoked in you. Tell them all over my face.

You're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.

Nova actually is comparing opening posts from previous games to this one. For at least two players. Idk what to do with this.

I still think Nova’s initial post about catching Sabie looks like a joke in a vacuum.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still think Nova’s initial post about catching Sabie looks like a joke in a vacuum.

I believe that you thought it was a joke. That doesn't make me feel great about your mindset when reading page one though.

[nutella]

...Yeah jack and speed are wolfie wolf city.

[VOTE: jack] aubergine because I gotta pick one

[Jackofhearts2005]

[insert my analysis of speedchuck's entry posts here]

I don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

He opposed my rationale in what was definitely not a meaningful or thorough analysis. He knows it's wrong.

I don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

What precisely drives your belief in my belief?

The time investment. It's not much of a joke if you don't actually believe it.

wot wood u say m8 if I told you 'at moi only real ping of the game so far 'as come from speedchuck?

I would say your accent is horrendous. Is it because Speedchuck's accent is worse? Or the Nutella push? I think it's the Nutella push.

He was already mindful of reasons why speedchuck might be viewed with suspicion, but he didn't say it himself until I provided the platform.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

This reads does not read authentically to me.

Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

He crammed Jack in as a scum read next to a more controversial and eye-grabbing name.

I don't buy that Jack actually thinks I've buddied Jay. Fake reason. Bleg.

This reads no better than Jack's accusation did.

"Hot damn, I already have a townread"
"JJJ is acting like town JJJ"
"I explain how JJJ is acting like town JJJ"

I... don't think so?

Jack lobbed up a big juicy pile of quotes with the implication "you're being a hypocrite", and speedchuck wimpered this ellipsis/question mark timidness.

So because I don’t think Speedchuck saying “Hullo guys” is town indicative, it must be because I know he’s actually scum?

I’m mindful about why Speedchuck is suspicious because you said you suspected Speedchuck and didn’t tell me why so I went to look for what he said that was suspicious. If I’m scum with Speedchuck, I don’t particularly give a damn about what makes him suspicious until someone else points it out because if nobody does, I wouldn’t have to react to it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I still think Nova’s initial post about catching Sabie looks like a joke in a vacuum.

I believe that you thought it was a joke. That doesn't make me feel great about your mindset when reading page one though.

Name a single game I have ever played with you where I wasn’t joking in my early posts, where I’m seriously down to business scumhunting on D0 and expecting Nova of all people to be doing the same.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I see it’s gonna be one of those games.

You know, I do a lot better when Jimmy isn’t death tunneling me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still think Nova’s initial post about catching Sabie looks like a joke in a vacuum.

I believe that you thought it was a joke. That doesn't make me feel great about your mindset when reading page one though.

Name a single game I have ever played with you where I wasn’t joking in my early posts, where I’m seriously down to business scumhunting on D0 and expecting Nova of all people to be doing the same.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Jackofhearts2005 telling jokes. That is irrelevant. This is a matter of novaselinenever and your perception of his post. After he had both made that post and expanded on his rationale, you still assumed he was joking. That suggests to me that you weren't really reading the posts to any thoughtful depth as necessary to play Mafia as an uninformed civilian -- even on the first page.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I see it’s gonna be one of those games.

You know, I do a lot better when Jimmy isn’t death tunneling me.

If you're a civilian, I don't matter. Find the mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So because I don’t think Speedchuck saying “Hullo guys” is town indicative, it must be because I know he’s actually scum?

It "must"n't be anything. I don't care about "must". Within the framework of a theory in which you and speedchuck are both mafia members, yes that is the case.

I’m mindful about why Speedchuck is suspicious because you said you suspected Speedchuck and didn’t tell me why so I went to look for what he said that was suspicious. If I’m scum with Speedchuck, I don’t particularly give a damn about what makes him suspicious until someone else points it out because if nobody does, I wouldn’t have to react to it.

What mafia "have" to do and what they "actually" do form a Venn diagram which is much closer to a sideways 8 than a circle.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I still think Nova’s initial post about catching Sabie looks like a joke in a vacuum.

I believe that you thought it was a joke. That doesn't make me feel great about your mindset when reading page one though.

Name a single game I have ever played with you where I wasn’t joking in my early posts, where I’m seriously down to business scumhunting on D0 and expecting Nova of all people to be doing the same.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Jackofhearts2005 telling jokes. That is irrelevant. This is a matter of novaselinenever and your perception of his post. After he had both made that post and expanded on his rationale, you still assumed he was joking. That suggests to me that you weren't really reading the posts to any thoughtful depth as necessary to play Mafia as an uninformed civilian -- even on the first page.

You’re absolutely right. I’m not reading with thoughtful hunting depth on the first page. But why is that suspicious?

I’m also not going and finding follow up posts when someone tells me Nova’s first post looks authentic.

It’s like you’ve never played with me before.

Which is perfectly normal.

[speedchuck]

"Hot damn, I already have a townread"
"JJJ is acting like town JJJ"
"I explain how JJJ is acting like town JJJ"

I... don't think so?

Jack lobbed up a big juicy pile of quotes with the implication "you're being a hypocrite", and speedchuck wimpered this ellipsis/question mark timidness.

That was meant to be sarcastic.

I'll do a vocaroo next time.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m also not going and finding follow up posts when someone tells me Nova’s first post looks authentic.

nova's follow-up came 29 minutes after the original post, and is only a slight scroll down the page. I don't know how you see the one-liner and then miss the paragraph without having no interest in getting reads.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I see it’s gonna be one of those games.

You know, I do a lot better when Jimmy isn’t death tunneling me.

If you're a civilian, I don't matter. Find the mafia.

Watch me.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

[reywaS]

i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

[nutella]

i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Yuck

[reywaS]

no u

[Jackofhearts2005]

More people post please so Jay has something to watch.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Yuck

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]reywaS[/mention], what is the difference between my recent posts and my less recent posts?

[novaselinenever]

Hullo guys

speedchuck entry posts in his last six games:

Spoiler: show

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Socky Awards, Mafia

I will do my best.

2018 GOC, Civilian

Also I checked the poll results and now I can't vote.

I think that just happens with non changeable votes? IDK.

Also hi.

World Asunder, Mafia

I'm never bad.

SPACE FORCE, Civilian

This looks freaking amazing.

Hello my fellow slytherins.

Hogwarts, Civilian

Speedchuck for president of the flames

Outpost 31, Civilian

Two of them featuring a greeting ("hi" or "hello"). The mafia version of the greeting is inserted by force; the civilian version is smoov like buttah. His Shockheaded Peter greeting is relatively smoov like relative buttah.

Clear, obvious civilian.

I was just doing this

I don't want to call Nova a liar, as this would be a silly thing to lie about unless being joke-y, but really tho? That specific thing?

Participation just makes me heart swell, and it puts me in such a lovely mood.

This man is Town.

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Aren't you going to participate?

After being one of the first to respond, Nova sends back a friendly nudge.

27 minutes since the last post

Almost exactly like a post JJJ made earlier in the game. Riffing off that post, clearly.

Departure from normal Nova play.

I'm buddying back after his page 1 imagery. We're two town souls that found each other very early on, and we're both tired of losing. I know I am

[novaselinenever]

Hullo guys

speedchuck entry posts in his last six games:

Spoiler: show

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Socky Awards, Mafia

I will do my best.

2018 GOC, Civilian

Also I checked the poll results and now I can't vote.

I think that just happens with non changeable votes? IDK.

Also hi.

World Asunder, Mafia

I'm never bad.

SPACE FORCE, Civilian

This looks freaking amazing.

Hello my fellow slytherins.

Hogwarts, Civilian

Speedchuck for president of the flames

Outpost 31, Civilian

Two of them featuring a greeting ("hi" or "hello"). The mafia version of the greeting is inserted by force; the civilian version is smoov like buttah. His Shockheaded Peter greeting is relatively smoov like relative buttah.

Clear, obvious civilian.

I was just doing this

I don't want to call Nova a liar, as this would be a silly thing to lie about unless being joke-y, but really tho? That specific thing?

Participation just makes me heart swell, and it puts me in such a lovely mood.

This man is Town.

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Aren't you going to participate?

After being one of the first to respond, Nova sends back a friendly nudge.

27 minutes since the last post

Almost exactly like a post JJJ made earlier in the game. Riffing off that post, clearly.

Departure from normal Nova play.

You better no

I mean ain't it obvious that I was indeed doing the same things? Read the immediate following posts with my extended thoughts on Sabie's entrance, and me asking whereabouts of the Socky Game thread.