Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There is one decent way of narrowing the POE pool, but it requires a lot of work. I will likely not have enough time during this night phase to finish it all, but perhaps the seedlings can be planted.

Interactive analyses of all POE candidates isolates compatible and incompatible teams (as best as the analyst can tell) and may facilitate the removal of a player from the pool. It's the ambitious matrix work I have done in a few past games. I'll provide a template chart.

[colonialbob]

and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

Your content post-flip has been, and I'm trying to read you better so I want more content that does not involve yourself. This is not meant to imply all you've done all game is self-centered.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

First of all, I am not prepared to discard a mafia team comprised of Lunalee, Jack, and speedchuck. I see no good reason why that can't exist. I'll assess the rest separately.

Jack: We are getting murdered out there. How did Jay find us already?
Speed: No kidding. Jay is so good at mafia. At least Luna is safe.
Luna: Hold my beer.

What can I say? *sits in front of Socky, Maffie, and MU trophy case admiring my own reflection in the gold*

[Sloonei]

I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

talk about throwing shade. My questions to JJJ were unmotivated. Why do you think this sloondog? He can't give any baddie motivations for doing it of course. It just feels bad. keep at it and you will have a good backstory for voting JoeJoe tomorrow. Maybe you can just be the seed layer and someone else can take the fall for a bad lynch wagon.

Yeah, Sloonei's suspicion is bogus. I stand behind that fo sho.

Acting the part. I didn’t see (or feel),a clear civilian mindset in your posts, so I am questioning that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Speedchuck:

>Luna is good on gth
>Nova is bad on gth
>Votes Nova
>Follows Nova's vote on Luna

Nova:

Surfing on a sound wave. Swingin through the stars. Take a left past your intestine. Take a second right past mars!

[Jackofhearts2005]

First of all, I am not prepared to discard a mafia team comprised of Lunalee, Jack, and speedchuck. I see no good reason why that can't exist. I'll assess the rest separately.

Jack: We are getting murdered out there. How did Jay find us already?
Speed: No kidding. Jay is so good at mafia. At least Luna is safe.
Luna: Hold my beer.

What can I say? *sits in front of Socky, Maffie, and MU trophy case admiring my own reflection in the gold*

MU vote history has spoiled me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There is one decent way of narrowing the POE pool, but it requires a lot of work. I will likely not have enough time during this night phase to finish it all, but perhaps the seedlings can be planted.

Interactive analyses of all POE candidates isolates compatible and incompatible teams (as best as the analyst can tell) and may facilitate the removal of a player from the pool. It's the ambitious matrix work I have done in a few past games. I'll provide a template chart.

Fill in the blanks. Check every 2-way interaction, decide how compatible the two are as mafia teammates, and indicate that in this chart with a color (green for not appearing teamed, red for team-indicative, orange for team-compatible, yellow for [no, yellow sucks, you're now allowed to include yellow]).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

now = not

[Jackofhearts2005]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

Do it. Push for it. I am clearly already trying to reclaim my Socky from Sloonei (2017) and nutella (2018). Join the fight, and civilian play across the site will be elevated.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

By the way, I included those eight specific players in the chart because they're the ones to have appeared in the various POE lists provided so far. I don't think I missed anyone.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I wonder if I'll assign my Cognitive Psychology students next fall as much homework as I assign to the people I play Mafia with.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I want to go check vote order to see if Jay is right about when the Speed wagon dissolved but I’m getting Fire Emblem ptsd.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to go check vote order to see if Jay is right about when the Speed wagon dissolved but I’m getting Fire Emblem ptsd.

Thankfully I think most people have been calling their votes with the tags.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I want to go check vote order to see if Jay is right about when the Speed wagon dissolved but I’m getting Fire Emblem ptsd.

Thankfully I think most people have been calling their votes with the tags.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

[reywaS]

@reywaS, I have no idea what you think of speedchuck apart from one GTH read (good). Please help me out there.

sweet jesus you post a lot, brosephus. You remind me a lot of a certain bronzed kiwi.

I have no reason to suspect speedchuck really....but I have limited experience with almost everyone in this game after spending a few years away from the game. So, my reads of people are not based on history like the rest of you are able to. The only thing that weirds me out about Speedchuckle is how buddy buddy he's been with me...and looking back he's been at it since the start of the game. I'm not sure what to make of that. It could be that he actually has a strong town read of me...or it could mean he's a bad fellar and is latching on to me because he's seen me get lynched in my first two games back from hiatus for shit reasons and wants that sweet sweet civ cred when it happens again in this game. I dunno.

hot damn i am one self centered bastard. smh

[nutella]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah u right nutella. I did that too. Muh bad B.

[reywaS]

and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

In recent memory a lot of his has been. I'd also like to hear what your reads are of everyone else apart from how people have treated you. There's value in the reads you've given on that front, but a different approach would help.

i appreciate what you are trying to accomplish with this request. I really do....but you are asking me to play the game in a way that i have never done. I am always been a fly by the seat of my Dickie's type of player. I've never been one to make detailed ISOs of everyone. I appreciate that people play this way, but I don't find it fun personally. Im far too scatterbrained for this style of play. I know there is a need for it in the game and i am appreciative of those that do play this way. I have just always been more reactive than proactive.

[nutella]

Yeah the vote tags don't actually work in search lol. If you iso someone and Ctrl F it that works though.

[reywaS]

and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

Your content post-flip has been, and I'm trying to read you better so I want more content that does not involve yourself. This is not meant to imply all you've done all game is self-centered.

fair enough. I'm doing my best

[reywaS]

I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

talk about throwing shade. My questions to JJJ were unmotivated. Why do you think this sloondog? He can't give any baddie motivations for doing it of course. It just feels bad. keep at it and you will have a good backstory for voting JoeJoe tomorrow. Maybe you can just be the seed layer and someone else can take the fall for a bad lynch wagon.

Yeah, Sloonei's suspicion is bogus. I stand behind that fo sho.

Acting the part. I didn’t see (or feel),a clear civilian mindset in your posts, so I am questioning that.

oh really? Seemed more like you were trying to attach a tone to my questions that was not there to fit your "He feels bad" narrative.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do your thing, [mention]reywaS[/mention].

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Does anyone think rey looks bad at face value? As in, do his posts bother you on the level of intuition?

I don’t think so.

[reywaS]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

damn...i thought it was just me that thought this. I also wanted to give Jack a tissue to wipe the brown off his nose after his sarcastic i caught all the baddies post.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

I do what I want.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

damn...i thought it was just me that thought this. I also wanted to give Jack a tissue to wipe the brown off his nose after his sarcastic i caught all the baddies post.

How am I brown nosing if I’m actually saying Jay is wrong?

[speedchuck]

reywaS, I have no idea what you think of speedchuck apart from one GTH read (good). Please help me out there.

sweet jesus you post a lot, brosephus. You remind me a lot of a certain bronzed kiwi.

I have no reason to suspect speedchuck really....but I have limited experience with almost everyone in this game after spending a few years away from the game. So, my reads of people are not based on history like the rest of you are able to. The only thing that weirds me out about Speedchuckle is how buddy buddy he's been with me...and looking back he's been at it since the start of the game. I'm not sure what to make of that. It could be that he actually has a strong town read of me...or it could mean he's a bad fellar and is latching on to me because he's seen me get lynched in my first two games back from hiatus for shit reasons and wants that sweet sweet civ cred when it happens again in this game. I dunno.

hot damn i am one self centered bastard. smh

Can it be a mix of the two?

[Sloonei]

I wonder if I'll assign my Cognitive Psychology students next fall as much homework as I assign to the people I play Mafia with.

Make them play mafia

[speedchuck]

I wonder if I'll assign my Cognitive Psychology students next fall as much homework as I assign to the people I play Mafia with.

Make them play mafia

LIKE!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm going to lynch Jack for posting Giant Jackie Chan twice.

[reywaS]

reywaS, I have no idea what you think of speedchuck apart from one GTH read (good). Please help me out there.

sweet jesus you post a lot, brosephus. You remind me a lot of a certain bronzed kiwi.

I have no reason to suspect speedchuck really....but I have limited experience with almost everyone in this game after spending a few years away from the game. So, my reads of people are not based on history like the rest of you are able to. The only thing that weirds me out about Speedchuckle is how buddy buddy he's been with me...and looking back he's been at it since the start of the game. I'm not sure what to make of that. It could be that he actually has a strong town read of me...or it could mean he's a bad fellar and is latching on to me because he's seen me get lynched in my first two games back from hiatus for shit reasons and wants that sweet sweet civ cred when it happens again in this game. I dunno.

hot damn i am one self centered bastard. smh

Can it be a mix of the two?

well sure if you go strictly as i wrote it...i meant to imply that the first was that you were a townie yourself with a town read of me. Thanks smart ass. lol

[Elohcin]

Okay, so my vote. I don't think I have even mentioned nova this game. I have had a bad gut read on him but haven't said anything since it isn't concrete. I like to have reasons to back up my feelings.

Wait! Why is nova voting for himself? He has been really strange this game. If he wants to vote for himself, he can get one from me too. Thank you for giving me a concrete reason to vote you, nova.

linki, with Jay. That is exactly what I thought. Glad to know I read you right And I would say you don't care abotu Chuck's alignment because you know it won't hurt civs that much to get a mislynch Day 1. Even when civs win, they usually have a misllynch Day1.

there is a lot more linki...I'll read it in a minute.

I’ve liked all of elohcin’s posts until this one.

why?

Then again, he might be more inclined toward being an influential force if his teammate is plumetting toward a lynch. I don’t have a clear sense of how exactly the voting played out.

The speedchuck wagon had swelled to 4 votes at its peak I believe. A few others had 2 each, including Jack and nova. I decided to move my vote from speedchuck to Lunalee:

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

This made it 3-2-2-2 with speechuck in front (colonialbob had voted Luna first about 2.5 hours earlier). Then about 15-20 minutes later, nova moved to Luna and an avalanche followed him. I recommend you review the progression starting from my vote.

Thanks for this recap, Jay. So Nova looks pretty darn good then.

One thing I found interesting is that, with my switch to the Jack wagon, votes were 4-5, meaning it would be easy for scum to flip the lynch if they wanted to. Get, for some reason, they didn't.

There are a few potential conclusions that can be drawn from this:

1. Scum was already on the Jack wagon, and thus couldn't switch.
2. Scum wasn't around during EOD.
3. Jack himself is scum.

If conclusion 1 is correct, that's not a good look for reywaS, and likewise with sabie and conclusion 2. Thus, I think either of them would be good targets for D2.

I like this train of thought. I like the way you play, my friend. Your posts get to the point and are easy to digest.

posting, but I'm only at the top of pg 19

[reywaS]

This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

damn...i thought it was just me that thought this. I also wanted to give Jack a tissue to wipe the brown off his nose after his sarcastic i caught all the baddies post.

How am I brown nosing if I’m actually saying Jay is wrong?

one doesnt have to agree with someone to kiss their ass. JJJ is not a dumb ass. Kissing his requires more finesse. (like I'm doing here ) the dad joke then the appeal to ego you go with in the green text smells of ass kissing to me. I don't know everything in the world.

[Elohcin]

bob's grievances with Elohcin are resonating too. She was close to correct in her assumptions about my strategies, but I don't know why "indie" was in her mindset. Early in games, I think mafia members are generally more indie-conscious than civilians.

Indie came to mind because you didn't seem to care if you were lynching a civ or baddie. I was thinking made you just need someone, anyone dead. And you were trying to get everyone rowled up and participating to get make it a fun go for you. I thought I was on to something. At least I got some of it right.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Just here clicking refresh once in a while during class. We could use some cot-damned posting right here in these parts.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Indie came to mind because you didn't seem to care if you were lynching a civ or baddie.

What made you think I didn't care about speedchuck's alignment?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Parting words if I die: don’t be lynch wimps. Don’t default.

[Epignosis]

Meow

JaggedJimmyJay has been killed. He was Harriet.

Harriet and the Matches

Oh now naughty, naughty miss
You did not heed the fire's hiss

After all that, you never learned
You learned nothing after what the fire burned

So listen now, and listen well
Lest your faction wind up in hell

Each Night you'll be tempted, tempted so
To play with your matches again, and go

Go to two names who may be killed
And if one of them is powerful and skilled

In your excitement you'll dance with glee
And once again burn to death, you see?

But the victim-to-be will live on to play
Except you will be dead, dead, dead, okay?

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[nutella]

I don't understand that role description it sounded like he had an ability but what?

[nutella]

He chooses two names and if one is killed they survive and if they gave a power he dies in their place? Is that right

[nutella]

No no I get it it's not a general protection he just dies in place of anyone else who is powered... I think?

[nutella]

Agh one of his TARGETS who is powered sorry I am thinking out loud and not wording it right but I think I understand

[leetic]

My two biggest suspicions were rey and sable, so [VOTE: reywaS] aubergine since he's active and more likely to respond to the pressure.

[Elohcin]

Nutella, I am sitting here trying to figure this out as well. I think you got it. He picks two, if one has a power, he dies instead. So did mafia kill him or did he die b/c of his power. I have no clue It is confusing. Epi can you give us a clearer description of Jay's role?

[Jackofhearts2005]

No no I get it it's not a general protection he just dies in place of anyone else who is powered... I think?

Yeah, I read it as some sort of conditional bodyguard.

[leetic]

A whole hour without posts? It's definitely different without JJJ...

I'm gonna do a more in depth look of some of the suspects.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

My reaction when I can’t kiss Jay’s hiney cause he’s dead.