World Flags Mafia GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[leetic]

Cursory since I don't have much time: DDL is looking better, still not a fan of Mac, Jack is a bit hard to read as his behaviour seems counterintuitive as scum but I can't see a town motivation either.

How is Jack's behaviour "counterintuitive"?

All of his joking about him being scum (like the bussing comment)

[leetic]

Cursory since I don't have much time: DDL is looking better, still not a fan of Mac, Jack is a bit hard to read as his behaviour seems counterintuitive as scum but I can't see a town motivation either.

How is Jack's behaviour "counterintuitive"?

Also since I've posted a lot more after your list of reads, I'm disappointed I didn't get an updated read by you..care to give me one?

Still a town read, for similar reasons, as you seem to be one of the ones pushing for content. As an aside, Mac didn't play Shockheaded Peter.

[Jackofhearts2005]

See if that works

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol not so much.

[leetic]

Just a little side note: I may not be the most active in the next few days. Today, I have to read 100 pages of The Bell Jar for AP English and the next couple of days, I have to see my scoutmaster who is suffering from brain cancer. I'll try to do what I can, though.

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

https: //docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-D8Tw5l0AlA8LC8vlFGjHsEYpkkQaxzUSJkwCcEJ2sg

Copy paste me after removing the space.

Co-lore please.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

Isn’t you thinking it’s a good idea to lynch me D1 equally problematic?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Players at least half the participants scumread: Mac, Speed, Quin, Colin, Sloonei*

We’re barely talking about these players.

*I’m my own tie breaker

[dunya]

leetic's massive reads and what i think of them:

AudreyTheTattleTail - Once again, does not seem to have done anything, so completely null. Has anyone even mentioned her?[/quote]
null - but unlike others he has given meta reads on based on 1 game, he doesn't give audrey any flack.

ColinIsCool - Hasn't done much. Doesn't seem to have many strong opinions here, and backed off of his dunya vote rather quickly after it proved unpopular. Scum lean.
scum - although i don't see where his dunya vote was "proved unpopular"

DFaraday - Only three posts. Posted a couple of reads, but nothing majorly alignment indicative. Would be null, but since I'm forcing myself to choose, very slight scum lean I guess.
scum - althought DF has 3-game related posts

DragonDLuffy - Like DF, three posts, and not too much within those three posts. For the sake of consistency, very slight scum lean I guess.
scum. - for the sake of consistency....?

dunya - Feeling more confident in calling her town. I don't think scum would give up like this this early in a day phase, and has started putting in some genuine effort.
town... give up? who was "giving up"? why is scum less likely to "give up" than town?

Epignosis - Handled my pressure vote decently well, but was a bit quick to change his opinion on me... He's a bit hard to read, slight town I suppose.
town - i don't see how the pressure vote exercise was a decent outcome with Epi. what made it a decently well reaction?

Jackofhearts2005 - Town, but mostly because he is playing much differently than in the last game I was with him. He's getting heat for his dunya vote, but in Shockheaded Peter the first person he voted was one of his scumpartners. Of course, he probably would change his strategy a bit for his next game as scum, but it still feels quite unlike his first outing (that I was a witness of).
town - leetic doesn't even entertain the possibility of me being bad, though it sounded like the implication was there till he adds "obvi jack is gonna change his game and not bus two games in a row". it's weird.

JaggedJimmyJay - After a brief period of inactivity, seems to be mostly back to his old self again. Town lean. Still, (and this goes for other people that I townread as well) it's a bit difficult since even scum can put in genuine efforts at scumhunting here.
town but at the same time, discrediting the town read.

leetic - Is a cool cat.

Long Con - Another do-nothinger, don't think I've played with him.
null

Lunalee - Only posted "Hi!" Did a bit more in Shockheaded Peter, so town lean I guess?
town yet DDL and DF get scum reads for having only 3 posts (with more game context than luna's hi), so much for consistency and actual desire for game content, eh?

Macdougall - Very inactive for some reason, last game I played with him he was not like that at all. Scum lean.
scum - based on 1 game meta reason

Novaselinenever - Laying a bit low, more similar to his behavior in Community than in Shockheaded Peter. Scum lean.
scum based on 1 game meta reason

nutella - Has a wagon on her. Nothing in her ISO really pinged me, but nothing looks really good either. Not too much in the way of content in her posts. Since I recall her having a bit more energy in Shockheaded Peter, slight scum lean.
scum - nothing pinged him, though. but nothing looks good either.

poutanko - I know I said I wouldn't post null unless they post nothing, but given that her only posts are completely NAI and I have absolutely no experience with this person, I have no other choice in this case.
null

Quin - Nothing really in the way of content. Since I forced myself to not go null, I'll say slight scum lean for the weird "I think" comment.
scum because "he thinks" he's town

sabie12 - Hasn't really posted many game-related things. I'll say a slight town lean since this is similar to her behavior in the other two games I played with her, but not really sure how she would act as scum.
town based on meta but not happy with game-related content, doesn't know how she would act as scum

Sloonei - Seems a bit null. Has a wagon around him for not doing much, but I'm not really seeing it - he didn't do much until his last moments in Shockheaded Peter and he was town there. Since I don't want to be agnostic about this, I'll say slight town for trying to get some work done.
town based on meta reason "Since I don't want to be agnostic about this" - idk what this means.

speedchuck - Nothing really in the way of game-related content. Similar to how he started Shockheaded Peter, but with one difference - there he tried a fake push on nutella. Since there's nothing like that here, slight town lean.
town based on 1 game meta...

ts account - At least seems to have been doing something, unlike quite a few people on this list - town lean.
town

i would rate his reads a 2.5/10 on the authenticity scale. i don't have time to go into more analysis, but let this be here. i wanna hear more opinions.

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

Isn’t you thinking it’s a good idea to lynch me D1 equally problematic?

If I'm avoiding lynching high-posters, then probably yeah. Tell me why you're voting dunya though.

[Lunalee]

I'm getting too many easy town reads from you guys. I can only assume it means you all are secretly planning to target me with guns.

[dunya]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

i asked you something about leetic. could you reply to that when you have a mo?

[dunya]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

Isn’t you thinking it’s a good idea to lynch me D1 equally problematic?

If I'm avoiding lynching high-posters, then probably yeah. Tell me why you're voting dunya though.

A third of my posts are jokes, a third are calling and answering for gth and the other third are about why Dunya is scum.

Come the frack on.

[dunya]

reads from leetic i am most dissatisfied with are:

audrey
colin
epignosis
luna
jack
sabie

[speedchuck]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Even Dunya thinks it's a good idea.

[dunya]

math is not jack's strong suit. i'd say 70% were about me and jay being scum. 20% GTH stuff and 10% bad jokes.

[dunya]

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Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Even Dunya thinks it's a good idea.

omg, we have so many funny people in here today #blessed

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Even Dunya thinks it's a good idea.

Sold.

Speed, everyone suspects you. Let’s lynch Dunya before you get hot potatoed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

math is not jack's strong suit. i'd say 70% were about me and jay being scum. 20% GTH stuff and 10% bad jokes.

That time Jay told me to alphabetize the player list so I did was pretty funny.

[Lunalee]

With over 24 hours having passed since the start of D1, I'll once again do the exercise where I look over the ISOs of everyone and determine if they look towny or scummy. This time, I won't say null unless a player has not posted at all. These might not be the most accurate (the last time I did this, only one out of my four scumreads was correct!) but the point is to create content and start discussion. For reference, I'll put a player's name in italics if I have played a game where they were town and bold if I have played a game where they were scum. Well, we have 19 people to get through, so let's go!

this whole wordy intro is what bugged me (i haven't really read his reads in detail, i'm sure there's stuff to nitpick there too). it's drawing attention to the fact he did this exercise in his last game, where he was a civilian, and he's doing it now...which must make him a civilian? he also adds a little disclaimer that his last list only netted him 1 scum, so if leetic is bad, he wouldn't bus his teammates in this exercise probably. that's my lean and take on that. the wordy intro just gives me heebee jeebies man.

Or maybe leetic just wanted to make a detailed post about what he's about to do and how he's gonna do it so nobody is surprised. Looks kinda normal to me. Do large blocks of text usually worry you, dunya?

why on earth would we be surprised someone in a game of mafia is giving reads on other players in the game of mafia?

You wanted me to respond to this? it sounded rhetorical. No, I guess you would not be surprised at someone giving reads in a mafia game.

[Lunalee]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

[Jackofhearts2005]

In Lovers, I’m gonna make pair Luna and Leetic together so I can call them LunaLeetic.

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

Isn’t you thinking it’s a good idea to lynch me D1 equally problematic?

If I'm avoiding lynching high-posters, then probably yeah. Tell me why you're voting dunya though.

A third of my posts are jokes, a third are calling and answering for gth and the other third are about why Dunya is scum.

Come the frack on.

so you're saying I shouldn't feel bad lynching you then?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

[dunya]

why on earth would we be surprised someone in a game of mafia is giving reads on other players in the game of mafia?

You wanted me to respond to this? it sounded rhetorical. No, I guess you would not be surprised at someone giving reads in a mafia game.

yes, i did. you said leetic's intro made sense so people wouldn't be surprised he was giving reads. i am confused. do you still feel that the intro was warranted? did he make a similar wordy intro in shockheaded peter? (that's not rhetoric, i don't know if he did)

[dunya]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

i don't dance. period.

[speedchuck]

math is not jack's strong suit. i'd say 70% were about me and jay being scum. 20% GTH stuff and 10% bad jokes.

Wait, Jay is scum?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.
Also so he can get to work planning lover's mafia. That would be quite amusing.

Isn’t you thinking it’s a good idea to lynch me D1 equally problematic?

If I'm avoiding lynching high-posters, then probably yeah. Tell me why you're voting dunya though.

A third of my posts are jokes, a third are calling and answering for gth and the other third are about why Dunya is scum.

Come the frack on.

so you're saying I shouldn't feel bad lynching you then?

I’m saying you not wanting to vote for Dunya because she “adds to discussion” and then you turning around and voting me but also not knowing why I’m voting Dunya is stinky.

[leetic]

leetic's massive reads and what i think of them:

AudreyTheTattleTail - Once again, does not seem to have done anything, so completely null. Has anyone even mentioned her?

null - but unlike others he has given meta reads on based on 1 game, he doesn't give audrey any flack.

ColinIsCool - Hasn't done much. Doesn't seem to have many strong opinions here, and backed off of his dunya vote rather quickly after it proved unpopular. Scum lean.
scum - although i don't see where his dunya vote was "proved unpopular"

DFaraday - Only three posts. Posted a couple of reads, but nothing majorly alignment indicative. Would be null, but since I'm forcing myself to choose, very slight scum lean I guess.
scum - althought DF has 3-game related posts

DragonDLuffy - Like DF, three posts, and not too much within those three posts. For the sake of consistency, very slight scum lean I guess.
scum. - for the sake of consistency....?

dunya - Feeling more confident in calling her town. I don't think scum would give up like this this early in a day phase, and has started putting in some genuine effort.
town... give up? who was "giving up"? why is scum less likely to "give up" than town?

Epignosis - Handled my pressure vote decently well, but was a bit quick to change his opinion on me... He's a bit hard to read, slight town I suppose.
town - i don't see how the pressure vote exercise was a decent outcome with Epi. what made it a decently well reaction?

Jackofhearts2005 - Town, but mostly because he is playing much differently than in the last game I was with him. He's getting heat for his dunya vote, but in Shockheaded Peter the first person he voted was one of his scumpartners. Of course, he probably would change his strategy a bit for his next game as scum, but it still feels quite unlike his first outing (that I was a witness of).
town - leetic doesn't even entertain the possibility of me being bad, though it sounded like the implication was there till he adds "obvi jack is gonna change his game and not bus two games in a row". it's weird.

JaggedJimmyJay - After a brief period of inactivity, seems to be mostly back to his old self again. Town lean. Still, (and this goes for other people that I townread as well) it's a bit difficult since even scum can put in genuine efforts at scumhunting here.
town but at the same time, discrediting the town read.

leetic - Is a cool cat.

Long Con - Another do-nothinger, don't think I've played with him.
null

Lunalee - Only posted "Hi!" Did a bit more in Shockheaded Peter, so town lean I guess?
town yet DDL and DF get scum reads for having only 3 posts (with more game context than luna's hi), so much for consistency and actual desire for game content, eh?

Macdougall - Very inactive for some reason, last game I played with him he was not like that at all. Scum lean.
scum - based on 1 game meta reason

Novaselinenever - Laying a bit low, more similar to his behavior in Community than in Shockheaded Peter. Scum lean.
scum based on 1 game meta reason

nutella - Has a wagon on her. Nothing in her ISO really pinged me, but nothing looks really good either. Not too much in the way of content in her posts. Since I recall her having a bit more energy in Shockheaded Peter, slight scum lean.
scum - nothing pinged him, though. but nothing looks good either.

poutanko - I know I said I wouldn't post null unless they post nothing, but given that her only posts are completely NAI and I have absolutely no experience with this person, I have no other choice in this case.
null

Quin - Nothing really in the way of content. Since I forced myself to not go null, I'll say slight scum lean for the weird "I think" comment.
scum because "he thinks" he's town

sabie12 - Hasn't really posted many game-related things. I'll say a slight town lean since this is similar to her behavior in the other two games I played with her, but not really sure how she would act as scum.
town based on meta but not happy with game-related content, doesn't know how she would act as scum

Sloonei - Seems a bit null. Has a wagon around him for not doing much, but I'm not really seeing it - he didn't do much until his last moments in Shockheaded Peter and he was town there. Since I don't want to be agnostic about this, I'll say slight town for trying to get some work done.
town based on meta reason "Since I don't want to be agnostic about this" - idk what this means.

speedchuck - Nothing really in the way of game-related content. Similar to how he started Shockheaded Peter, but with one difference - there he tried a fake push on nutella. Since there's nothing like that here, slight town lean.
town based on 1 game meta...

ts account - At least seems to have been doing something, unlike quite a few people on this list - town lean.
town

i would rate his reads a 2.5/10 on the authenticity scale. i don't have time to go into more analysis, but let this be here. i wanna hear more opinions.
[/quote]

Many of these reads would be null if I didn't force myself to pick, as many people didn't do much at all by the time of that post. I also had to go through 19 different players quickly enough for me to get a decent amount of sleep, so I couldn't go too in depth. If you want me to clarify any of these, ask me which ones.

[speedchuck]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Even Dunya thinks it's a good idea.

Sold.

Speed, everyone suspects you. Let’s lynch Dunya before you get hot potatoed.

Speed gets hot potatoed: Speed cannot shoot dunya on D2
Dunya gets lynched: Speed cannot shoot dunya on D2.

Is there a third option?

[speedchuck]

Dunya is scum
Luna is scummate, she protec

Game solved.

[Lunalee]

In Lovers, I’m gonna make pair Luna and Leetic together so I can call them LunaLeetic.

speed might get jealous

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

i don't dance. period.

[speedchuck]

Jack probably scum on other scumteam, because I trust Luna's judgement.

PSA: Inauthentic reads in this game are in a weird grey area because there are 2 mafia teams, so the other team can actually hunt.
No SKs though. :-(

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Even Dunya thinks it's a good idea.

Sold.

Speed, everyone suspects you. Let’s lynch Dunya before you get hot potatoed.

Speed gets hot potatoed: Speed cannot shoot dunya on D2
Dunya gets lynched: Speed cannot shoot dunya on D2.

Is there a third option?

Lynch Dunya and shoot your wife.

[speedchuck]

Supposed to be dunya's judgement. Bah.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Just a game, NSA. Just a game.

[Lunalee]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

How bout we try to figure out who is scum?

[speedchuck]

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

It's hard to lynch loud people. We should shoot them.

[dunya]

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

sassy

[Lunalee]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

How bout we try to figure out who is scum?

I'm thinking that's a good idea.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Friendly reminder: vote Jack for tinklebox 2019.

[speedchuck]

In Lovers, I’m gonna make pair Luna and Leetic together so I can call them LunaLeetic.

speed might get jealous

Not if turnabout is fair play.

(Jack, you know who to pair me with. )

[Lunalee]

Friendly reminder: vote Jack for tinklebox 2019.

let's not give jack a box

[Jackofhearts2005]

In Lovers, I’m gonna make pair Luna and Leetic together so I can call them LunaLeetic.

speed might get jealous

Not if turnabout is fair play.

(Jack, you know who to pair me with. )

Right right. Leetic’s girlfriend.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Because he thinks it's a good idea to lynch dunya on day 1.

why is it not a good idea to lynch me day 1?

Because you have contributed a lot of discussion to the thread. Keeping people talking is very helpful to figuring things out, and lynching you right now would only hurt town (regardless of your alignment).

But what if she’s mafia?

Doesn’t this strategy literally always lead to a town loss by preserving the danciest wolves?

yeah, okay. let's lynch all the loudest thread voices just in case they are scum.

How bout we try to figure out who is scum?

I'm thinking that's a good idea.

Okay. Let me know when you wanna start.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If we had enough married or dating couples to have everyone be lovered with their SO (or future SO in Sprityo’s case), that would be adorable.