World Flags Mafia GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[MacDougall]

He has been on your ass all game?

[novaselinenever]

Nova why is Colin out of your POE?

His claim. Not only do I believe it due to the context surrounding, I'm taking it at face value 'cause if he's lying he's going to get caught. Guns can be accounted for easily especially since he claimed having gifted one to a living player.

And Long Con?

Same. He claimed and has given Nutella a gun apparently.

[novaselinenever]

I'm going to leave a vote on Nova for now.

Lame.

I think you saw me as an easy mark. "Obsession" pushed the phony case too far though.

All right

[Long Con]

He has been on your ass all game?

Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

[novaselinenever]

I'm going to leave a vote on Nova for now.

Lame.

I think you saw me as an easy mark. "Obsession" pushed the phony case too far though.

but

I present to you this PoE,

Nutella
Speedchuck
Sloonei
Audrey
Quin
DFaraday

Yeah. Been on my ass all game, then backs off when I call him out on his phony case. Doesn't look good to me.

"All game" lol. Also I took you out due to your claim, not you doing anything particularly impressive.

[novaselinenever]

He has been on your ass all game?

Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

[MacDougall]

DFaraday
Lunalee
nutella
Quin
sabie12
speedchuck

Someone tell me good reasons why the above aren't Mafia?

[Sloonei]

There is something about Speedchuck's shitposting that isn't ringing genuine, and he hasn't really done anything that pinged me in a civ fashion. His obsessions with shooting is overdone, and it seems to be his intent honestly. Perhaps going for too obvious, and milking that "having fun/don't care attitude". I didn't like how he got caught up with Sabie's claim, especially how he apparently agreed with Jay that it's a town ping. It seemed like some shade throwing, and a little too sharp for someone that is apparently just out here to have fun and shoot.

DF and Quin are meh just like DDL. Few stuff pinged me and there isn't anything that'd warrant them civ points.

I was apparently shot for this post.

Look here, yo. I straight-up joined this game to shoot people and be shot at by people. I had no intention of surviving the hail of gunfire that I hoped would happen D2. Everything else I've posted has been reactionary, except for occasional insightfulness. I was one of the first on DDL, just from the feel of the thread, and that's more hunting than I thought I would do in this game.

In other words, I have no intention of changing. I am firmly latched to the "having fun/don't care" teet.

linki: I didn't have a vest, btw, if that's any help toward figuring out the game.

You weren’t shot “for this post”. You were shot for a number of reasons, some of which were expressed in this post.

If you were lucky enough to have a gun right now, who would you shoot?

[Long Con]

He has been on your ass all game?

Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.

[Lunalee]

I wonder if the person who gave Jay the bunk gun would also be bold enough to urge him to use it in thread. Was anyone other than speedchuck super vocal about jay taking his second shot?

[MacDougall]

He has been on your ass all game?

Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.
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Does that clear her of being a communist?

[MacDougall]

I wonder if the person who gave Jay the bunk gun would also be bold enough to urge him to use it in thread. Was anyone other than speedchuck super vocal about jay taking his second shot?

Everyone

[Lunalee]

He has been on your ass all game?

Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.

OR, she's on the other mafia team, and got lucky with leetic.

linki same, Mac

[novaselinenever]

DFaraday
Lunalee
nutella
Quin
sabie12
speedchuck

Someone tell me good reasons why the above aren't Mafia?

Sabie's claim of having gifted Dunya an orb looks like a townslip. It was out of nowhere, tone reads genuine and doesn't really feel like an elaborated ruse.

Been feeling good about Luna this phase, her post about you banning Audrey made me laugh lol. Also it's Dunya's legacy townread.

The other four though, PoE it is.

[MacDougall]

DFaraday
Lunalee
nutella
Quin
sabie12
speedchuck

Someone tell me good reasons why the above aren't Mafia?

Seriously people give me your best reasons as to why the aforementioned are civs?

Here's mine:

DFaraday - He is so null that I have no reason to read him as a mafia
Lunalee - Seems to be thinking like a civilian atm
nutella - Shot Leetic and has good effort (sorta?)
Quin - Scum Quin isn't usually this apathetic
sabie12 - Someone said she seemed town, I can't think of anything
speedchuck - Has been chaos posting in a game with live day kills which kinda seems fair

[MacDougall]

If it came down to Sabie vs. Speedchuck who do we lynch today?

[MacDougall]

I think sabie is a civilian. I don't think that's something she just blurts for no reason if it isn't true (or if the orb is fake).

Agreed.

Then why are you questioning her for it?

That was more just to bring it into the discussion. Sabie's post would be really chancy for a scum to make, despite it's unverifiability.

Speedchuck's only Sabie related content.

[MacDougall]

I'm back after craziness at work. Looks like another million pages to catch up on.

In reference to what's going on, on this page though. I did not receive a gun and I only ended up giving away an orb and that was to dunya who ended up dying.

Good job on killing off leetic whoever shot him!

Why claim if it's not verifiable?

People were talking about who got what items so I shared what little info I have regarding that.

I lie there is also this piece of nothing.

[MacDougall]

Die! [VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine!

[MacDougall]

Civilians: dunya, Jack
Mafia: speedchuck, leetic, nova

A thing

[sabie12]

Ive been leaning towards a speed suspicion. The way he was acting about shooting jack and everything. Seemed a bit over zealous about it. Idk he has been on the suspicious side to me this game. I planned on putting my vote there for now.

Mac seems a little more like typical mac now but for me it's hard to tell for sure if that means he's good or bad. Going with neutral for now.

In regard to that list..
DFaraday - I'd have to go back and look I don't remember anything he did or said.
Lunalee - was leaning scummy but unsure
nutella - nutella is wishy washy like dunya said and she shot leetic which is cool. Doesn't clear her completely. At first she seemed kind of iffy with the way she expressed her reads. I guess I'm wishy washy on how I feel about her haha.
Quin - idk I feel like he usually gets all angry when he's bad this game he's just busy and not around as much
sabie12 - seriously though it's never sabie. I always tell the truth no one listens then I die and everyone's like sabie was telling the truth whoops. I get it though I'm not as talkative so people don't know how to take me sometimes.

[Sloonei]

If it came down to Sabie vs. Speedchuck who do we lynch today?

Why is it narrowed to these two?

[MacDougall]

If it came down to Sabie vs. Speedchuck who do we lynch today?

Why is it narrowed to these two?

Why does it matter, it's a thought experiment. Just imagine a world in which they are the only two on the poll.

[Sloonei]

If it came down to Sabie vs. Speedchuck who do we lynch today?

Why is it narrowed to these two?

Why does it matter, it's a thought experiment. Just imagine a world in which they are the only two on the poll.

Speedchuck, rather easily.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Been taking this test for four hours. I wish my vest had been fake.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall
Nutella

GTH reads for everyone not named in this list on the people in this list please.

I put myself in it out of pure fairness.

Townlean
Townread
Townlean
Townread

The Luna suspicion died out because it started from her odd defense of Dunya, making them maybe w/w but Dunya flipped town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Day 1 suspects with significant wagons at different times =

Lunalee
Quin
Mac
Poutanko

I know why Poutanko is being given a pass (calling dunya a retard is a town ping) and I know why I am (because I'm obviously a civ) but isn't it odd how in a world with President JaggedJay we haven't seen a significant case or push on the other two?

Jay has no desire to lynch communists that's why.

The Pou case was also based partially on her being teamed with Epi. Poutie and all.

You started doing things.

Idk why Quin hasn’t been shot.

[speedchuck]

If you were lucky enough to have a gun right now, who would you shoot?

I don't, so I haven't been thinking about it. And I wouldn't just shoot like that. I would make people beg on their hands and knees not to be shot.

I'd probably start with you and nova, see how you guys crack when the tables are turned.

:P If I was shoot the person who should be shot, it would probably be Quin. For the same reason I lynched DDL yesterday.

[speedchuck]

Been taking this test for four hours. I wish my vest had been fake.

Wait did someone whoot you?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Good find Sloonei. You're a civilian. JJJ-approved.

I'm still tweaked by The Word when it comes to poutanko snapping in this game. I grant that one word need not a civilian make.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Stupid refresh.

Making an observation that makes another player look bad does not make you a townie, much as it’s a good observation.

[speedchuck]

I wonder if the person who gave Jay the bunk gun would also be bold enough to urge him to use it in thread. Was anyone other than speedchuck super vocal about jay taking his second shot?

Second shot?

[speedchuck]

I feel like I've missed something.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Stupid refresh.

Making an observation that makes another player look bad does not make you a townie, much as it’s a good observation.

I think it looked like an authentic dig.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Been taking this test for four hours. I wish my vest had been fake.

Wait did someone whoot you?

I shot you and hit myself with your fake gun.

[Jackofhearts2005]

RE: poutanko, I do not give her a pass for her angry outburst at dunya. Observe her reaction to almost being (correctly) lynched in Hogwarts:

...
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???

TRYING TO LYNCH ME WHILE I WAS SLEEPING? CAN I EVEN DEFEND MYSELF? WHOSE IDEA IS THIS?

ColinIsCool, Sloonei, Lunalee, Jackofhearts2005
SCUM

We lynched Jack and he is indeed scum. Now we presumably have one left, plus Jack again. I doubt all three of us are bad.

Sorry for almost lynching you, but we can’t just stop playing mafia when you go to sleep. You were a suspect. People voted for you. The timing was unfortunate but that’s just part of the game.

A suspect for what? Because I have wrong check? I was not suspected, what did I gain from claiming? Almost roasted. And the other 2 "cops" who somehow claimed only when there are only 3 hours left and whose results is yet to be proven are good. How? And both voted me together with you while I was sleeping. Nothing to see there right? "Unfortunate timing".

She's not above snapping at people and getting emotional in defense when she's scum.

Jay also said something earlier that has me second-guessing my earlier town read on poutie.

If you're actually trying to figure her out, you'd see the difference between the two. Typing in caps isn't really an angry/emotional outburst.

I felt like she could have reached through the computer screen and tore my throat out at the time. The caps lock is a touch that could be purposefully affected there though.

The caps lock is exactly what makes it fake. It's the cheapest way to convey a fake outburst, I'm not sure what exactly was the context but it reminds me of myself in Megaman coming back 20 min before EoD and facing 5 votes lol.

Her posts are more raw, they bleed authentic emotion and I also don't see a scum pou calling anyone a retard, faking feeling insulted or asking for a sub. Just look at the last post you quoted from Hogwart were she goes through the case/votes against her with a series of rethorical questions and compare it to her post this phase. It ain't the same.

NF is a bit more...free flowing with certain language. I wouldn’t weight that as heavily for Pou as for say...SpaceDaisy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nova makes me want to shoot Sloonei before Pou though.

[speedchuck]

Been taking this test for four hours. I wish my vest had been fake.

Wait did someone whoot you?

I shot you and hit myself with your fake gun.

Fake guns misfire back?

MY fake gun?

Que?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well, I haven't done much in this game, obviously, but simultaneously thank you and you're welcome, nutella! I have not read past this point at this time.

I'm about to shoot another one. Gimme a name.

Geez. See, I was tuned into the leetic suspicion from back when you (?) put a little somthin' together about them and it really fit the bill (although was it to be on DDL's team?)

I am pretty weak in saying Jack, but I do recall liking him in the same logic-arena that identified leetic. Around the same time, I remember thinking "yeah, Jack, Epi, leetic". So Jack.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Fake guns misfire back?

MY fake gun?

Que?

Oh right, so mister "let's shoot everyone yay wheeee shoot guns bang bang" doesn't know how fake guns work.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Catch up more Jack. Your takes are needed, granny.

[speedchuck]

Fake guns misfire back?

MY fake gun?

Que?

Oh right, so mister "let's shoot everyone yay wheeee shoot guns bang bang" doesn't know how fake guns work.

No, I didn't know fake guns and sabatoged guns were the same.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No, I didn't know fake guns and sabatoged guns were the same.

anchormanidontbelieveyou.gif

[Sloonei]

If you were lucky enough to have a gun right now, who would you shoot?

I don't, so I haven't been thinking about it. And I wouldn't just shoot like that. I would make people beg on their hands and knees not to be shot.

I'd probably start with you and nova, see how you guys crack when the tables are turned.

:P If I was shoot the person who should be shot, it would probably be Quin. For the same reason I lynched DDL yesterday.

Why did you lynch DDL?

[novaselinenever]

Speedchuck and Nutella aren't in a team together.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Lets beef with nutella

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nutella said “grunk” when I asked her to explain her town reads in epi and nova. It wasn’t the response I was looking for.

your post was literally gibberish shut the fuck up

Exaggerated hostility.

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I always find building town circles and lynching by PoE to be the easiest strategy for me since I typically roll vanilla town and can't rely on PR info to make deductions
when ISOing players I employ confirmation bias and read them as though they are a wolf
occasionally they make a post that does not make sense and they cannot be a wolf, which is cool
sometimes you can't find wolves by behavior alone and you have to find who *could* be a wolf

note that this isn't what I did to find my friends

High five my dude you are an upstanding citizen and a right-minded perceptive bloke

ts account gives some general strategic perspectives, and apparently nutella think's he's gold for it.

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Sure. The accusation came six minutes after the vote while Jack was catching up, so that may represent Jack justifying the vote by force (while yucking a post that multiple others had already yucked).

LIKE!

this goes for dunya's original post as well, this is just a nice summation of why Jack's vote was sketchy and I hadn't really been considering him suspicious until this was pointed out but this is a great point

Her eagerness in this hop-along doesn't read as entirely genuine to me.

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i really don't care about this whole lynch deal. can we just start shooting people?

okay you know what forget i ever suspected you

Nor does this.

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The Mafia are Epi, JJJ, Dunya, Jack, Sloonei and Nutella.

Gameset.

Has there ever been a game where all of the mafia were the top posters? I don't think so. This is exposure bias. You are forgetting that there are several low-lying players in this game who could easily have scum role cards and have not had occasion to bare themselves in the open yet. The day 1 thread environment so far has funneled attention onto a few select people, making it a piece of cake for others to slide by unscrutinized.

Mac's barely-serious mafia list didn't warrant a response really, and nutella crammed a bunch of words into a response anyway that amount to "low-posters can be scum too". Duh.

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Why are people voting for dunya lol

I don't know lol maybe some of the reasons you provided earlier in your post history about how she looked bad lol

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[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

speedchuck's recent observation about her in GTH was good. Her salad was against the law.

Speed was incorrect and that was not salad.

Instead of "shut up about salad already", I get "that was not salad". Is that even worth a denial? She fought pretty hard against my salad jabs even as I did little to act on them.

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Man why the hell are y'all lynching pou
Like I really don't want to lynch Mac now either, but pou really shouldn't be in the lead. What a pathetic poll

"What a pathetic poll" again sounds like overdoing it.

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*nutella completely ignored it not Nova

I haven't ignored it. He hasn't given me anything substantial to respond to though. He pulled a bunch of my quotes and summarized their content and repeatedly called for my lynch but I don't know what his actual gripes with those posts are.

Here you go.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Speedchuck and Nutella aren't in a team together.

y

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[novaselinenever]

Speedchuck and Nutella aren't in a team together.

y

He grilled her in the GTH exercise for scumreading him there, and being her only post about him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella at EOD1, re: nova:

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Nutella is bad.

y

She said "lol" too many times.

There is significantly less time remaining than I thought. @novaselinenever do you have those nutella citations yet?

As things currently stand, I'd vote DDL purely to save Mac. Mac's town. DDL is null at best. I'd prefer either half of Lunachuck.

I'm working on her defense of others citations. Please ISO her. Read on you is Page 1, instances I talked about and read on Jack are on Page 2 and 3 towards the beginning.

What do you mean by my read on jack? My views on him have changed a few times over the course of the game. I currently lean town on him.

Lynch Nutella yo

You just quoted a random smattering of my posts with no indication of what you think is sus about them

This the extent of nutella's handling of nova around EOD1. Votes were in flux, players were frantic, and nova was a continuous drone through it all:

Lynch nutella

This man was trying his best to murder her forever in a thread environment where it was reasonably plausible, and this is all we get from her on that?