nutella is leading a campaign to lynch me because I told daisy I wasn’t gonna be lynched today and she wants to prove me wrong. I’m too busy to defend myself, will you be my champion?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:42 pm Twelve pages hung on me while I was at work. I don't know how motivated I am to read them. I am in a shitty mood because of something unfortunate that happened less than an hour. Please don't worry about it- it's nothing serious, just very frustrating, and I am probably going to stew about it for a little while.
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> 400 postsSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:46 pmbusy irlUltra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:37 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:29 pmMy suspects?Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:27 pmRemember early in the game when you tried to play GTH?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:24 pmThen ignore that argument.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Also there still isn’t even an argument for lynching me. This is just an argument against not lynching me.
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I was not busy this weekendUltra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:51 pm> 400 postsSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:46 pmbusy irlUltra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:37 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:29 pmMy suspects?Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:27 pmRemember early in the game when you tried to play GTH?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:24 pmThen ignore that argument.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Also there still isn’t even an argument for lynching me. This is just an argument against not lynching me.
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I've stated multiple reasons at various times. His cases on me and lux felt disingenuous, he presented them in an awkward manner he feels like a stiff parody of himself. and the gth thing was weird but that's a smaller thing. It's a lot of gut I can't necessarily explain but basically a lot of his activity doesn't come across as genuinely motivated to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 pmTell me why you suspect Sloonei.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Cause I don’t see a townie hunting what they think is a wolf.
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No, a parody of Sloonei is when you write a Speedchuck/Sloonei romance story wherein Sloonei goes whole scenes only talking in questions.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:52 pmI've stated multiple reasons at various times. His cases on me and lux felt disingenuous, he presented them in an awkward manner he feels like a stiff parody of himself. and the gth thing was weird but that's a smaller thing. It's a lot of gut I can't necessarily explain but basically a lot of his activity doesn't come across as genuinely motivated to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 pmTell me why you suspect Sloonei.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Cause I don’t see a townie hunting what they think is a wolf.
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And you wanna pull the trigger on this as a Day 1 lynch of the most active player in the game?nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:52 pmI've stated multiple reasons at various times. His cases on me and lux felt disingenuous, he presented them in an awkward manner he feels like a stiff parody of himself. and the gth thing was weird but that's a smaller thing. It's a lot of gut I can't necessarily explain but basically a lot of his activity doesn't come across as genuinely motivated to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 pmTell me why you suspect Sloonei.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Cause I don’t see a townie hunting what they think is a wolf.
When I told daisy i’m not getting lynched today, I meant “there isn’t a strong consensus suspicion against me.” I did not mean “I am King Sloonei the Unlynchable, bow before me peasant.”
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Can I get a link to that? What was it like to write it? How was my physique?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:57 pmNo, a parody of Sloonei is when you write a Speedchuck/Sloonei romance story wherein Sloonei goes whole scenes only talking in questions.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:52 pmI've stated multiple reasons at various times. His cases on me and lux felt disingenuous, he presented them in an awkward manner he feels like a stiff parody of himself. and the gth thing was weird but that's a smaller thing. It's a lot of gut I can't necessarily explain but basically a lot of his activity doesn't come across as genuinely motivated to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 pmTell me why you suspect Sloonei.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Cause I don’t see a townie hunting what they think is a wolf.
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Fudge this. Cooler and Matahari have made bizarre statements in the thread and backed them up with nothing. Look at them. Talk about them. I’ve cased them both. Talk about my cases if you want to tall about me at all.
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Funny enough, I'm not super sus of cooler
I can totally see it sure with his abysmal vote count
But I feel like his response to my post wasn't really tooo slank if he just hadn't caught up and only responded to the latest thing he saw
I can totally see it sure with his abysmal vote count
But I feel like his response to my post wasn't really tooo slank if he just hadn't caught up and only responded to the latest thing he saw
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http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ei#p412991Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 pmCan I get a link to that? What was it like to write it? How was my physique?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:57 pmNo, a parody of Sloonei is when you write a Speedchuck/Sloonei romance story wherein Sloonei goes whole scenes only talking in questions.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:52 pmI've stated multiple reasons at various times. His cases on me and lux felt disingenuous, he presented them in an awkward manner he feels like a stiff parody of himself. and the gth thing was weird but that's a smaller thing. It's a lot of gut I can't necessarily explain but basically a lot of his activity doesn't come across as genuinely motivated to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 pmTell me why you suspect Sloonei.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:22 pm ....nah I still disagree that sloonei is so likely to be nightkilled no matter what. In my experience scum don't just kill the most active players. It's way more complex than that. I don't get this kind of thinking. If he's bad he's a huge threat and y'all are crazy if you can't at least consider that.
Cause I don’t see a townie hunting what they think is a wolf.
This is just regular Sloonei.
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He wouldn't be my last choice by a long shot though, but if he's just bored townie we go into the next day with little more direction
Let me see if I can find a game on NF from him
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I voted speedchuck and now some people want a CFD on me.
Interesting.
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What bothered me about it was how isolated it was. He’s commented or asked about zero other specific things, but singled out one minor thing to shade unequivocally.
Plus his previous “I’m behind, someone catch me up on everything” post is textbook hollow scum contribution.
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Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
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Idk what to do with Mata but I keep thinking of all the times Dunya said she was real dangerous so I’m just leaving her alone. 
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When does day end i have like 5 minutes before my class picks up again
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Read these posts in sequence. Try to determine whether they make sense. Talk to mata about them. Talk to each other. Hunt.
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:18 pm Catching up in this game is really hard. Trying to suss out genuine sounding town reads is also really hard, when you’re not familiar with a lot of players.
The case on Lux has me baffled. Her comments, that may have been slips or may have been mistakes, I understand. Her defense did not consist of trying to make cases or point fingers at others, which seems more like an early game civ behavior to me. If anyone thinks I’m looking at this wrong, by all means, correct me.
I’m going back to iso some others then I’ll post again.
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:40 pmYou see things in a very strange way, it seems to me. That was not a defense of Lux. That was a “if you’re town, this might be your last chance to try and prove it” kind of post, meaning I don’t want to vote for a civ.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:25 pm “Why Marahari?”This defense of Lux reads awkward and forced to me. I grilled her over it because “she just defended herself and didn’t point fingers at anyone” strikes me as a strange, somewhat counterintuitive read. It also stands out by virtue of its existence. Matahari defended Luxurious individually. I could see basis for a teammate pairing here.Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:18 pm Catching up in this game is really hard. Trying to suss out genuine sounding town reads is also really hard, when you’re not familiar with a lot of players.
The case on Lux has me baffled. Her comments, that may have been slips or may have been mistakes, I understand. Her defense did not consist of trying to make cases or point fingers at others, which seems more like an early game civ behavior to me. If anyone thinks I’m looking at this wrong, by all means, correct me.
I’m going back to iso some others then I’ll post again.
There is only one player I have solidly as town. That is Sabie. Juliets is close. Everyone else is neutral to pingy.
That said, I was wary of Dragomir earlier in the game, but I reversed my opinion of him somewhat. He is also just neutral now.
More than likely, my vote will go on Lux, because I think she could have tried harder to defend and do something town related than she did.
But you do things your way and I’ll do things my way.
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:09 pmI wasn’t town reading her, but I was pointing out that her weak defense could have been that of a civ who doesn’t know who else could be bad, so she wasn’t trying to build a case against anyone else. Defending yourself is only part of trying to save yourself. It also helps to point out your suspicions of other players and why they should be looked at, as well. Because it might save you.
So, to my way of thinking, why didn’t she suspect others? Why wasn’t she trying to bring up anyone else that she thought was bad. The only answer I have for that is the ones I listed before. Possibly town and had no real suspicion on anyone. Or possibly bad, and trying not to slip again. I posted about it, hoped for some agrees or disagrees.
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Oi. I have made become tie.
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I just thought she was town reading meSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
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So to you, it looks like he’s what? Intentionally using people’s lack of knowledge towards how you play to shade you and get a scum read?
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Just that he's making up a read. No more no less.
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You aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
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What were her reasons?Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:17 pmI just thought she was town reading meSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
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YuckMatahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:20 pmYou aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
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Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling
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Idk it seemed like she was town reading me without actually giving a town read but I was like “good enough” in my hasteMatahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:45 pmAre you asking me if she would have looked worse if she ‘no you’d’? That is possible, but not if she backed up her no u with a decent reason. Basically, make a post listing reasons why she thinks someone could be bad, so other people could decide whether it sounded like legit scumhunting or not.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:29 pmWould she have looked worse for trying to build a suspicion out of any component of her self-defense?Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:27 pmShe sounded like someone who wanted to save herself, but didn’t have any real suspicions to try and build a case on someone.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:21 pmTalk to me about that middle paragraph. What exactly did Lux do, and why is “not pointing fingers” a good look?Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:18 pm Catching up in this game is really hard. Trying to suss out genuine sounding town reads is also really hard, when you’re not familiar with a lot of players.
The case on Lux has me baffled. Her comments, that may have been slips or may have been mistakes, I understand. Her defense did not consist of trying to make cases or point fingers at others, which seems more like an early game civ behavior to me. If anyone thinks I’m looking at this wrong, by all means, correct me.
I’m going back to iso some others then I’ll post again.
Yes, I know that could have been laziness. But I don’t know her or what she is like as a player.
That was just my first impression on reading through her weak defense. Do you see it differently? What other reasons would she have for not trying to bring up suspicions of others that might save her?
The only reasons I can see are
she’s a clueless civ
She’s a lazy civ/Indi/maf who isn’t invested in the game
Or she’s is a scared Indi/maf.
Again, I don’t know her style, or meta, whatever it’s being called now. Just on face value, one read through, I thought possible town. Please give me your view, does her behavior in defensegate seem evil?
Linki- ok maybe she’s making a case now. That will give me more to go on.
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Brb in an hour
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Still glad to see my speedchuck ship has taken off for the stars
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Who and which is the most scummy of them?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:09 pm I voted speedchuck and now some people want a CFD on me.
Interesting.
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And I was happy to be in your town reads, RIP that.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 5:39 pm AAAAAAH I HAVE TO LEAVE
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It was only one and a half people really. I proposed it and LC said he'd be down but ended up voting elsewhere.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:39 pmWho and which is the most scummy of them?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:09 pm I voted speedchuck and now some people want a CFD on me.
Interesting.
I'm serious about it though. DDL does not feel like his town meta here and I have an increasingly bad feeling about him.
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What if I remove you from the town list?Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 4:16 pmYou dare place me halfway down the town list as well
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I never shaded you after town reading you. Just thought there was a scum in the trio I posted. Had nothing to do with you being a high poster.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 5:03 pm Slooney is fine because it’s at least consistent but at the same time it’s just so weird to constantly go back and forth on people he was so sure were town
He pulled his suspicion off me, and then make on me, called me town and is now shading me again.
He agreed with slooney’s case on nutella. 180’d on it and made nutella town, and now I’m a high poster? But he’s also shading her here
It doesnt feel genuine
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Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:20 pmYou aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.

Sloonei could be diamond-edge accurate about everything else he's said, and still wrong about you. What is this, some sort of deviant Gambler's Fallacy?

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Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
Right now, if I weren't voting for Cooler, I'd be voting for Matahari. I just don't know if lazy, self-involved conclusions equate to mafia role card. Maybe that would be a lazy conclusion.

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Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
I townread Drago now. 

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Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
Lol maybe I would stop tunneling you if I believed any of your reads.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 pmIt was only one and a half people really. I proposed it and LC said he'd be down but ended up voting elsewhere.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:39 pmWho and which is the most scummy of them?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:09 pm I voted speedchuck and now some people want a CFD on me.
Interesting.
I'm serious about it though. DDL does not feel like his town meta here and I have an increasingly bad feeling about him.
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Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
Hazlenut, my dear friend, I support you in this.nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 pmIt was only one and a half people really. I proposed it and LC said he'd be down but ended up voting elsewhere.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:39 pmWho and which is the most scummy of them?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:09 pm I voted speedchuck and now some people want a CFD on me.
Interesting.
I'm serious about it though. DDL does not feel like his town meta here and I have an increasingly bad feeling about him.
Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
I don’t know what that is, but I’ll go look it up on mafiascum wiki.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:04 pmMatahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:20 pmYou aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.
Sloonei could be diamond-edge accurate about everything else he's said, and still wrong about you. What is this, some sort of deviant Gambler's Fallacy?
I have no trust for Sloonei’s methods. I find his massive amount of posts distracting.
The entire game he has questioned people over and over, and he has decided I’m bad. Well ok. I can’t exactly trust in his prowess as a scum hunter now because he’s wrong.
Re: Arrowverse Mafia - Day 1
Forget town reading speedchuck. I despise his vote on Luxy.
I can totally see speed and nutella being buddies.
I can totally see speed and nutella being buddies.
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Dude we are defending each other to the death. If we were teammates we would be hard bussing. I can link you to a couple games where we were scum mates if you don't believe me.
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