Arrowverse Mafia - Day 8

[MacDougall]

SSSSSSIIIIP

Notice how Ultra got his vote off of Cooler and onto a useless Mac wagon when Cooler was looking baked.

That's a teammate.

Oh, shut it.

You don't think it's reasonable for me to consider it suspicious that you threw your vote away when it was sitting on a Mafia?

[nutella]

I havent read the last couple pages so idk if I would have been persuaded to join the cooler train, I guess if I were in danger I would have. I was strongly considering voting ddl though it wouldn't have mattered.

I didn't realize there was a four way tie including mata at one point. Now that I've read that I think I might have gone for mata but I can't really be sure because that's an alternate universe. But cooler turned out to be bad so it may be a blessing in disguise that I wasn't there in case I would have chosen mata and she's town after all (not that I'm discounting the possibility she still could be).

[Jackofhearts2005]

Agreed, Mac!

That "Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling" is wish-to-the-wash in all the wrong ways.

What about DDL and his "Save Cooler" campaign? It worked on me if I weren't so irresponsible.

I believe DDL (and Epi) still opose a Cooler lynch regardless of alignment.

[Sloonei]

Matahari remains my top suspect. This post now exists:

Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.

You aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.

@Matahari we just lynched my second suspect after you and he flipped bad. Does that change the way you view my methods?

But isn't the ironic part that Matahari actually voted for Cooler?

Do we know why?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Matahari, if you want me to quote you, please don't use the mention feature- it messes with my browser. I know you don't know that though. I do read everything and will respond.

Why do you think Nutella is good?

No reason to think she's bad. I'm not persuaded by Sloonei's thing. It looks good, but it isn't convincing.

Is Cooler bad because he would be posting if he was good?

I don't know Cooler from Adam. Why would him posting more make him good? What a strange question to ask.

Is Sloonei good because he is always pushy when town? Is he different when bad?

Sloonei being a civilian has nothing to do with pushiness. Again, this is a strange question.

sorry about your browser!

You have Cooler down as bad in your list. But last I looked, he only had one post. So I’m not sure why you find him bad.

About Sloonei- I thought you said something earlier about his level of play, but I might be thinking of someone else.

Cooler would be my default lynch if I had no opinions about anything else.

Damn guys I wanted to be a good host.

Sure there was a 70% chance of Cooler joining the ranks of the NF people who come here to be inactive in the first game, but hope is the last one to die.

I have a longstanding rule of not voting for new people in their first game Day 1, so I was never going to vote there anyway.

Right right. Nothing weird about these two posts.

Actually, I take that back about Epi.

[Ultra]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

[Luxurious]

Matahari remains my top suspect. This post now exists:

Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.

You aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.

@Matahari we just lynched my second suspect after you and he flipped bad. Does that change the way you view my methods?

But isn't the ironic part that Matahari actually voted for Cooler?

Do we know why?

We do not

We didnt even got a vote post movement

[Ultra]

Not making another post until I'm through my 2nd space kitty

[Luxurious]

Idk man I still think Epi might be town here

[Jackofhearts2005]

Not making another post until I'm through my 2nd space kitty

My kind of beer.

[MacDougall]

Matahari remains my top suspect. This post now exists:

Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.

You aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.

@Matahari we just lynched my second suspect after you and he flipped bad. Does that change the way you view my methods?

But isn't the ironic part that Matahari actually voted for Cooler?

Do we know why?

Not to my knowledge.

[MacDougall]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

[MacDougall]

Idk man I still think Epi might be town here

Of course he might. What a hot take.

Dragomir's Cooler comments, while being less fleshy than the others are actually the most dodgy looking. Reminds me a bit of the way that Elohcin handled my wagon in Steely Dan.

[Ultra]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

[speedchuck]

Oh heck yeah

And people moved off of me onto cooler apparently. That makes me feel good about myself despite me doing literally nothing. Move off of me onto another scum tomorrow, friendos!

[MacDougall]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

Does flying under the radar seem like something that I am want to do based on the one game you played with me in which you had the benefit of seeing Mafia me?

[MacDougall]

Oh heck yeah

And people moved off of me onto cooler apparently. That makes me feel good about myself despite me doing literally nothing. Move off of me onto another scum tomorrow, friendos!

Oh got eem.

[Ultra]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

Does flying under the radar seem like something that I am want to do based on the one game you played with me in which you had the benefit of seeing Mafia me?

Still operating under the SK assumption atm

[Ultra]

anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

[Epignosis]

Matahari remains my preferred Day 2 lynch.

[MacDougall]

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

Does flying under the radar seem like something that I am want to do based on the one game you played with me in which you had the benefit of seeing Mafia me?

Still operating under the SK assumption atm

[MacDougall]

anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

we?

[Ultra]

anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

we?

Yeah me and my green pal

[MacDougall]

anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

we?

Yeah me and my green pal

[Matahari]

I moved my vote to Cooler as a self pres. I had four votes, Cooler had 4, and Lux had 3 or 4.
Sloonei- okay, you get it right sometimes. But you’re wrong about me.
Epig- I hope you change your mind.

[Cooler]

@Cooler I want you to know that I hammered you simply because Sloonei and Juliets were voting for you. I basically just gave them my vote. Even in my most chaotic moment I still deferred to the sensible centre.

Lol didn't even notice.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This worked better than I would have expected.

Rest in pieces [mention]Cooler[/mention], and I hope I see you in more games here.

[Dragomir]

I'm not happy.

[Dragomir]

Nutella is still scum.

[Dragomir]

Please let me by right!

[Dragomir]

Its hard to figure out who Cooler's buddy is as hardly anybody interacted with him.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir I want your point of view. Who is the most uneased by this circumstance?

Matahari.

Who's in 2nd?

Idk.

[Dragomir]

Holy shit, a 3-way tie.

>4/5/4
>tied

It used to be 5v5v5

[Jackofhearts2005]

If Nutella survives the night, a friendly reminder that there are two bulletproof baddies.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If Nutella survives the night, a friendly reminder that there are two bulletproof baddies.

Inb4 the vig ignores nutella.

Also the SK kills tonight too, so there is a big chance at least one of the 3 kills may be stopped and we won't know which one.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Man I wouldn't want to be the speedster mafia rn. They just lost a member and now there are 3 kills unrelated to them about to hit somewhere.

[speedchuck]

I'm not happy.

I will never understand you sir.

Why not be happy?

[Dragomir]

I'm not happy.

I will never understand you sir.

Why not be happy?

Nutella wasn't lynched.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It’s okay, she’s taking a diamond arrow to the knee tonight I bet.

[speedchuck]

I'm not happy.

I will never understand you sir.

Why not be happy?

Nutella wasn't lynched.

But we lynched scum tho

Nutella can die tonight or be lynched tomorrow

[nutella]

I don't see an odd vig though?

[nutella]

Also nks don't flip so if I die at night you don't get to find out that you're wrong about me

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Oh you're right the vig only kills even nights.

[Sloonei]

I moved my vote to Cooler as a self pres. I had four votes, Cooler had 4, and Lux had 3 or 4.
Sloonei- okay, you get it right sometimes. But you’re wrong about me.
Epig- I hope you change your mind.

Why did you choose cooler over lux?

[juliets]

I will stay current in here during this phase and comment if I see fit but I have two other games I've totally neglected that I will be working on today.

[sabie12]

Good job guys! Sorry I wasn't able to be here end of day. I'm always a little iffy on lynching low participating people early on but I'm glad it worked out this time.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't see an odd vig though?

Green Arrow doesn’t play by rules set by fat cat hosts.

[Dragomir]

Also nks don't flip so if I die at night you don't get to find out that you're wrong about me

Oh right. Hating this forum more and more and at the same time I'm loving it.

[Ultra]

Also nks don't flip so if I die at night you don't get to find out that you're wrong about me

aw shit

why

[speedchuck]

Day flip is better than no flip