Arrowverse Mafia - Day 8

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Tell me how you really feel about nutella DDL

I hate her with the power of 5 votes.

(jk )

[Funnygurl555]

ugh [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

Pass.

I don't particularly suspect you right now.

[Funnygurl555]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

Pass.

I don't particularly suspect you right now.

i dont like u tho sry

u bad guy

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I wanna lynch Creature but I'm not really in a hurry.

I'd be down for this one too.

Ok let's go.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[Sloonei]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

[Sloonei]

I wanna lynch Creature but I'm not really in a hurry.

I'd be down for this one too.

Ok let's go.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

why?

[Funnygurl555]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

soft defense of cooler. beginning of the game he was popping in thread and not contributing a lot. where i am now (think pg 39) he still doesn't have much (aka no wolf reads), but he's defending cooler and nutella

bad look bad look man. he ain't hunting

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I wanna lynch Creature but I'm not really in a hurry.

I'd be down for this one too.

Ok let's go.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

why?

I have a hunch.

[Funnygurl555]

i don't know if i'm imagining things but i saw him just like join a wagon too which was ??? but again i'm gonna have to go back...... oh it was the creature vote lmfao

wigly's also suspicious like... actually suspicious. we'll see though still got 1/3 of the thread left (and i'm about to read d1 eod)

[Sloonei]

I wanna lynch Creature but I'm not really in a hurry.

I'd be down for this one too.

Ok let's go.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

why?

I have a hunch.

Can you articulate this hunch?

[Funnygurl555]

how do votes work? is it through the poll or voting tags?

what's the vc?

[Sloonei]

how do votes work? is it through the poll or voting tags?

what's the vc?

the poll.

[Funnygurl555]

haha, that was quick. thanks!

[Sloonei]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] balance achieved, move your vote please.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I wanna lynch Creature but I'm not really in a hurry.

I'd be down for this one too.

Ok let's go.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

why?

I have a hunch.

Can you articulate this hunch?

I'm deciding the average expected value of this option is higher than all the others.

[Funnygurl555]

ayyy two of my scum reads are voting sloonei who i'm town reading. am i on the right track?

'ight pg 41 leggo

[Funnygurl555]

ayyy two of my scum reads are voting sloonei who i'm town reading. am i on the right track?

'ight pg 41 leggo

this take was incorrect idk why i thought dragon was on sloonei

[Epignosis]

I'd like the Sloonei voters to provide a summary as to why, of all the options available today, Sloonei is preferred.

Likewise to those voting Creature.

[Luxurious]

I was reading champs game 2 while also playing Scrimmage because Tsunami, my sites representative was there, and the wolves literally had been suspected the whole time because they were open wolfing and yet town kept? Going to other people? Until tsunami called out fable

Bless tsunami

I RECENTLY PLAYED WITH FABLE i got him lynched d1 and he was a wolf *smug smile* h a h a gloatin like a goat

dear god is he a good wolf though. after that and before i got nk'd was mislynch after mislynch

didn't read game 2 though. read d1 of g1 'cause of mikey and dbp. reading g5 'cause of funnier6 and litten (it starts tomorrow! woo!)

ok back i go

oh epignosis you deal with the glitch too? ayyy

I mean idk I’ve only played with him as town and he was more combative so that’s a fat shrug

But everyone should play with tsunami she is A Good

[Luxurious]

I'd like the Sloonei voters to provide a summary as to why, of all the options available today, Sloonei is preferred.

Likewise to those voting Creature.

Wagonomics

[Sloonei]

Spoiler: show

DDL and the speedsters

Sabie feels civ as fuck. Sloonei feels good. Drago is pretty good too. I don't think I have more.

Ultra felt town on early Day 0 now he's kind of missing.

Specially emphasized town read on Sabie Day 1. Okay. Why?

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

I think that kind of accusation is pretty common from civ Cooler tbh.

He's a pretty aggro player who tends to start cases easily. And he has being wrong about me like half a dozen times so I'm used to him not being exactly fair with his cases.

Defends Cooler with a meta defense which does not line up with his in-thread behavior.

Main reason I don't wanna lynch Cooler is because it's his first game in TS and I don't want to lynch a newcomer on Day 1.

Also I'm pretty neutral on him.

I was going to say that I hesitate to read DDL's defense of Cooler as bad because I don't think a teammate would stick his neck so far out to defend a partner on Day 1. But there is less defense, and what does exist is more tentative than I remembered it. This isn't really a hard defense and can be explained away later as courtesy (which I do believe, to be fair, but it doesn't help me to read DDL all that much right here), and then he defaults to a "neutral" read on Cooler. So not the best look in the world.

And that's pretty much it. Not much here again, but I'd be inclined to say this is a slightly unfavorable look overall for DDL. Possible teammate connection.

My interactive analysis for DDL was unfavorable.

Spoiler: show

Creature & cooler/sabie

I tried catching up but the black background made my eyes bleed...

Uh? Usually white backgrounds deteriorate my eyes.

OT banter. Okay.

Town leaning:
Ultra
Sloonei
Sable
Mac

I don't remember sabie doing anything. Why is he/she a townread?

Those two posts alone don't seem to convince me.

Creature resists my urge to plant an early town read on Sabie. Good look.

Going to stick with my sabie townread.

... but apparently I convinced him to townread her. This came out of nowhere. @Creature do you remember why you town-read sabie here?

Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

D-FENCE

sabie town
want to say Long Con is town

sprityo is wtf? NAGL I haven't townread him yet

D-FENCE. sabie is dead by this point. Creature seems unaware of this. That would be a good indication that they're not partners.

There is not enough here to make a solid read, but that last point would have to outweigh the slight pings enough for me to say these interactions overall paint a favorable picture for Creature. I'd tentatively say he's not a speedster.

Creature's was slightly more favorable, but not overwhelmingly so.

[Sloonei]

I'd like the Sloonei voters to provide a summary as to why, of all the options available today, Sloonei is preferred.

Likewise to those voting Creature.

He's not. I was just on Creature to keep things from skewing too far against nutella. She's my preferred option so I've changed my vote now that the poll is a bit jumbled.

[Sloonei]

I do like Creature as a secondary option though. I looked at him here and my primary concern was that a lot of his suspicions have come and gone without resulting in anything. He'll say that he suspects a player in one post, do nothing about it, and then have a different read later.

[Luxurious]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

soft defense of cooler. beginning of the game he was popping in thread and not contributing a lot. where i am now (think pg 39) he still doesn't have much (aka no wolf reads), but he's defending cooler and nutella

bad look bad look man. he ain't hunting

What if nutella is actually town though and he’s Right

Like I understand bias see: scum reading nutella

But there’s always that possibility that she’s not actually scum

How does him wanting to cfd Matahari d1 look? I cannot remember if that happened before cooler or after cooler

[Epignosis]

I can understand why Sloonei thinks nutella is bad.

I cannot understand why nutella thinks Sloonei is bad.

[Luxurious]

The only thing that bugs me about this wagon formation is that i feels exactly like Mata’s from yesterday

1)it’s the overwhelming majority and keeps gaining more votes
2)nutella’s not really doing anything to defend herself
3) no one’s really arguing that she’s town anyway

It’s much earlier in the day that I’m saying this but it makes me antsy. Especially considering the fact that yesterday there weren’t any opposing wagons to look at

So

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Yeah we at least need alternative wagons to be formed or the day becomes stagnant.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Yeah

Also felt a bit weird that enough people said they didnt like creature but havent voted there anyway

Refresh us all on what you think is the best point against Creature.

Oh my only thought is that he looks like he’s coasting.

Otherwise I like starting wagons people are too scared to start

[Sloonei]

What were these lists Creature posted today? He'd been silent for days and then popped back in to give us context-less lists of names.

Luxurious, MacDougall, Spacedaisy, maybe ColinIsCool

nutella, Jackearts, Dragomir's slot, maybe Sloonei

Also his full response to my ISO was this:

However, I would guess that relatively unsubstantiated reads (by my standards) are not unusual for Creature.

Do you happen to know me somewhere else?

I could look at his play in Better Off Ted for a reference point.

Oh nvm, how disappointing.

It doesn't inspire much confidence.

[Luxurious]

There was an ongoing joke on my homesite for a bit that the second person to vote on a wagon is always scum but that’s because scum has a bad habit or shading people and saying “i would vote there!!!” And then dont until someone else does to diminish their pushing on a town wagon.

Kinda why I’m like, :S on DDL

[Luxurious]

What were these lists Creature posted today? He'd been silent for days and then popped back in to give us context-less lists of names.

Luxurious, MacDougall, Spacedaisy, maybe ColinIsCool

nutella, Jackearts, Dragomir's slot, maybe Sloonei

Also his full response to my ISO was this:

However, I would guess that relatively unsubstantiated reads (by my standards) are not unusual for Creature.

Do you happen to know me somewhere else?

I could look at his play in Better Off Ted for a reference point.

Oh nvm, how disappointing.

It doesn't inspire much confidence.

I thought it was a scum list

[Luxurious]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

Okay she can be town

[Luxurious]

I can understand why Sloonei thinks nutella is bad.

I cannot understand why nutella thinks Sloonei is bad.

I think it still deals with her case and is probably a tunnel

[Funnygurl555]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

soft defense of cooler. beginning of the game he was popping in thread and not contributing a lot. where i am now (think pg 39) he still doesn't have much (aka no wolf reads), but he's defending cooler and nutella

bad look bad look man. he ain't hunting

What if nutella is actually town though and he’s Right

Like I understand bias see: scum reading nutella

But there’s always that possibility that she’s not actually scum

How does him wanting to cfd Matahari d1 look? I cannot remember if that happened before cooler or after cooler

i don't know how the vote spread looked like. i just remember dragon didn't want cooler dead.

and yeah i am assuming that we are in a world where nutella is scum, but i also think that that is very probable

[Sloonei]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

soft defense of cooler. beginning of the game he was popping in thread and not contributing a lot. where i am now (think pg 39) he still doesn't have much (aka no wolf reads), but he's defending cooler and nutella

bad look bad look man. he ain't hunting

What if nutella is actually town though and he’s Right

Like I understand bias see: scum reading nutella

But there’s always that possibility that she’s not actually scum

How does him wanting to cfd Matahari d1 look? I cannot remember if that happened before cooler or after cooler

i don't know how the vote spread looked like. i just remember dragon didn't want cooler dead.

and yeah i am assuming that we are in a world where nutella is scum, but i also think that that is very probable

If DDL and nutella are both scum, it is unlikely that both of them are also teammates with Cooler. It seems like Sabie was the second member of Cooler's team, meaning there's only one member left. Unless of course Sabie wasn't a Speedster and they chose to kill last night, which just does not compute.

[Luxurious]

Is this the post we’re talking about Funnygurl because this was after cooler flipped

[Luxurious]

Damn guys I wanted to be a good host.

Sure there was a 70% chance of Cooler joining the ranks of the NF people who come here to be inactive in the first game, but hope is the last one to die.

I forgot to quote the post

[Epignosis]

I can understand why Sloonei thinks nutella is bad.

I cannot understand why nutella thinks Sloonei is bad.

I think it still deals with her case and is probably a tunnel

I don't know what the case is though.

[Funnygurl555]

'ight dragon we're thunderdoming

[VOTE: [dragon d. luffy] aubergine

what's the biggest point you have against him?

soft defense of cooler. beginning of the game he was popping in thread and not contributing a lot. where i am now (think pg 39) he still doesn't have much (aka no wolf reads), but he's defending cooler and nutella

bad look bad look man. he ain't hunting

What if nutella is actually town though and he’s Right

Like I understand bias see: scum reading nutella

But there’s always that possibility that she’s not actually scum

How does him wanting to cfd Matahari d1 look? I cannot remember if that happened before cooler or after cooler

i don't know how the vote spread looked like. i just remember dragon didn't want cooler dead.

and yeah i am assuming that we are in a world where nutella is scum, but i also think that that is very probable

If DDL and nutella are both scum, it is unlikely that both of them are also teammates with Cooler. It seems like Sabie was the second member of Cooler's team, meaning there's only one member left. Unless of course Sabie wasn't a Speedster and they chose to kill last night, which just does not compute.

but i don't think nutella is teammates with cooler necessarily. for the world i'm tryna build, ddl being w/w with cooler make sense. i think a world exists where they could both be scum? or one of them is scum. one of them's gotta be scum though

[Funnygurl555]

i just got done with an eod on another site and im frustrated. alright back to reading

[Funnygurl555]

Damn guys I wanted to be a good host.

Sure there was a 70% chance of Cooler joining the ranks of the NF people who come here to be inactive in the first game, but hope is the last one to die.

I forgot to quote the post

nah i wasn't talking about that. leading to eod he was defending cooler (although not like a hard defend)

[Funnygurl555]

pg 47. my thoughts aren't changing anymore, so tbh i think this is a good place to rest for now. i'll finish the rest during the night phase

more certain in ddl read; still not a fan of wigly but that ain't an eod problem

i feel like i'll have to vote for nutella given where everyone's votes are

but yeah, i'm ready to interact!

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

I've been slanking a bit the last day or so but I promise I'll buckle down.

Voted Lux over Nutella because the former looks scummier at a surface level. And I haven't paid close enough attention to have confidence to push my own wagon atm

This is a rather bland and vague way to justify voting for someone. Basically sounds like you've gone for the easy choice while throwing in a nice little excuse for bandwagoning.

You're paying enough attention to say Lux looks scummier than Nutella but not enough to have your own thoughts on the game? Any other players on your suss list?

This is the most cherrypicked, obligatory suspicion I’ve ever seen. Creature says nothing for a long time but then picks this post out of the rubble to say unkind things about. Why?

alright alright fine sloonei's town. finally gave in. if u is wolf then u still deserve the town read

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

ok ok i get it ur town

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

speed one reason for the Lux suspicions (though not the only reason) was that whole thing about whether she scum slipped when she mentioned one bad team instead of two. The thinking was she did that because she's on one of the teams, therefore from her perspective there is just one (other) bad team. Someone who believes this to be the case (I don't think it was a scum slip) might be able to explain it better than me.

This is silly.

Town who doesn’t read the rules: Thinks there is one scum team.
Scum who doesn’t read the rules: Thinks there is one scum team.
Town who reads the rules: Knows there are two scum teams.
Scum who reads the rules: Knows there are two scum teams.

scum are still less likely to think there's only one wolf team 'cause they got they buddies to talk game with

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

I think that kind of accusation is pretty common from civ Cooler tbh.

He's a pretty aggro player who tends to start cases easily. And he has being wrong about me like half a dozen times so I'm used to him not being exactly fair with his cases.

ooo a defense of cooler. ooooOOOOOoooooo not good

Town: sabie
Mafia: Cooler

HE KEEPS GOING. if this is busing then my man that is one bus

that really short exchange with nutella and mac was hilarious

This speed lynch feels like fun and games.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA why

I'll join juliets on Cooler. [VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

His meagre ISO has been discussed. That tepid attack on Ultra was tres lame.

ayy more evidence for the lc town read here we go

Funny enough, I'm not super sus of cooler

I can totally see it sure with his abysmal vote count

But I feel like his response to my post wasn't really tooo slank if he just hadn't caught up and only responded to the latest thing he saw

hm. ultra you're already town so this is unfortunate

wigly enters thread and doesn't contribute shit once again
scum, SCUM, im scum reading

Crap so sorry i missed EOD ugh I was out having dinner and my phone battery was running out. I kind of suck being in two games this week and being busy at the most inconvenient times

Try using low power mode and turn off pokemon go.

LOL

Funny enough, I'm not super sus of cooler

I can totally see it sure with his abysmal vote count

But I feel like his response to my post wasn't really tooo slank if he just hadn't caught up and only responded to the latest thing he saw

Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling

Lol yes Cooler's 5 posts were telling.

Cooler it is

Just vote cooler. We can resolve nut/lux tomorrow

Not rocket science

but coordinating wagons are hard when you have like 40% scum density

probably more at EoD

Oh now Cooler is the obv lynch.

Cooler hasn't voted yet, Nutella is poised to self preservation vote and Luxurious can also self preservation vote. If any of these are mislynches it's 100% Cooler.

You are absolutely full of it, but I'm impressed.

TMI

Cooler hasn't voted yet, Nutella is poised to self preservation vote and Luxurious can also self preservation vote. If any of these are mislynches it's 100% Cooler.

You are absolutely full of it, but I'm impressed.

What a strange comment. Let's CFD this guy.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

How about I CFD you, considering you've been blathering like a baboon this game and basically open scumming, and accusing absolutely anyone you want just because people let you for whatever reason

Also calling your scum buddy from last game "this guy"

Abandon teammate wagon 101.

yo ultra actually doesn't look the best after d1 eod. ultra town -> slight town

Agreed, Mac!

That "Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling" is wish-to-the-wash in all the wrong ways.

What about DDL and his "Save Cooler" campaign? It worked on me if I weren't so irresponsible.

DDL would be a tier two possibility. Ultra, Dragomir and Epignosis are much more likely.

I see what you're saying. DDL might be a bit too blatant to be a teammate.

twtbaw? see that was my downfall when i played the game with fable. if someone is tw then ima try to kill 'em

Dragomir isn't much on my list. Can you elaborate Mr. Wilgy?

Well... This is mostly action based reading.

Yesterday diring the scramble, mataharis wagon formed I beleive after Hazlenut, Lux, and Coolers.

I think it's very likely that Mataharis wagon formed in response to cooler being up to lynch making them likely teammate incompatible. (This is of course could also apply to Mattaharis relationship with Lux and Hazlenut if they are bad).

One of the key pushers for this was Dragomir and at the time I couldn't blame him. Matahari looked scrambling and I agreed. Though in this exchange I asked Dargomir who was the 2nd most scrambly (which many were, it wasn't a trick question) to which he responded idk.

This indicates to me that dragomir was not hunting, more so pushing. Answering anyone would've indicated hunting and analysis, but that was not done.

Dragomir was in effort to save a teammate.

why not go on an existing wagon though

that's a stretch man

also is this actual effort from the dude finally h M m m ok

The only thing this discussion makes me think is that neither jack or epi are on that team

good info to know

Idk how I feel about mata's defense. She keeps chalking everything up to "the new way" but I don't get now that excuses her nonsensical progression on lux. Seems like a contrived excuse for a poorly handled teammate interaction.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

this isn't good

[Funnygurl555]

i spent 6 hours today reading this thread o_______________O

[Epignosis]

i spent 6 hours today reading this thread o_______________O

I once spent nine hours putting together a case on one person.

He was good.

[Funnygurl555]

i spent 6 hours today reading this thread o_______________O

I once spent nine hours putting together a case on one person.

He was good.

d a m n that really sucks

[Epignosis]

i spent 6 hours today reading this thread o_______________O

I once spent nine hours putting together a case on one person.

He was good.

d a m n that really sucks

The person didn't even get lynched because of my case.

[Sloonei]

Back to interactive reads since the thread is dead.
Lux is up next.

Spoiler: show

Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.

Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.

Remember to Breath(e)

Man do I have questions but I also dont wanna ask them since I feel like that’ll diminish Cooler’s response

Why is cooler bad from that Mac

Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.

Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.

Remember to Breath(e)

Man do I have questions but I also dont wanna ask them since I feel like that’ll diminish Cooler’s response

Ask them anyway. Why hold back? You're bad?

Because cooler can just repeat what I say!!!

Some stuff. If Lux and Cooler are partners, this is some nuanced distancing. Lux doesn't want to disturb the trap Mac has potentially set for Cooler, but Mac pokes Lux until he gets an answer. Lux seems like she wants Mac to use this opportunity to grill Cooler. Good look for both of them.

Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.

Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.

Remember to Breath(e)

Man do I have questions but I also dont wanna ask them since I feel like that’ll diminish Cooler’s response

Why would it diminish my response? Mac's response didn't really look like a legit answer to my question anyway.

Because people who make comments like that usually have a purpose for the person they’re towards. Pre-asking questions before you can respond diminishes your ability to interact with Mac

Cooler responds later. This also does not feel like teammate interaction to me. Cooler's question looks legitimate, like he was either confused by Lux's approach or trying to shade her for it. Lux's answer doesn't seem stiff or anything like you might see in a coordinated distancing act.

I missed the entirety of speed/ cooler suspicion so like, what the fuck happened there

Late in the day and a wagon has suddenly formed on Cooler. Lux is out of the loop.

Are we acting as if Cooler slipped here because him hassling Ultra for reads while also not having any himself and then vanishing means he’s getting all his info from scum chat

Or is it something else

I believe I commented on this elsewhere, but that's not why people were suspicious of Cooler. But this doesn't look like an attempt to defend him or anything. I can buy this as a genuine attempt to figure out why other people suspect a player.

Are we acting as if Cooler slipped here because him hassling Ultra for reads while also not having any himself and then vanishing means he’s getting all his info from scum chat

Or is it something else

Weird tinfoil but ok.

You still scum reading me?

I’m literally trying to figure out why people are on Cooler because it really is just 7 posts with one Really Bad One

Still thinking about it

Thinking about tha issues.

Kinda funny i quoted the post mata said she thought i was towny for not doing a defense

She assures me I dont need one

Scum reads me for not making one

That’s twisting what I said. Do you have any hard suspicions? There’s still time. Do you suspect anyone?

It’s not though but okay

And Nutella and probably cooler

Cooler is only "probably" a suspect.

Why did mata switch to cooler anyway

Questions why Matahari voted for Cooler.

I think Lux ended up voting for Matahari Day 1, but I'm not sure. While I feel good about the earlier interactions with Cooler, Lux's handling of Cooler later in the day was tentative. She put some light suspicion on him but didn't move beyond that or do anything with it. Her vote, as best as I can tell, went elsewhere. That's not directly condemning evidence, but it's not something I'd regard as a good look either.

Onto sabie.

Also the potential for scum!scatter thoughts but idk I kinda want her to dip her feet into the pool a bit more and get accustomed to the game

Same with sabie/ daisy

I don't know what this post means. It seems she just wants sabie to have a chance to say things. Not unfair. We're on Page 7 of Lux's ISO now, though, and this is the very first time sabie's name has come up. Page 8 has a whole lot more.

Dammit... Sprityo is bad again.

A shame too... here I was thinking "I just wish I could press my shirtless body up to them." Looks like that can't happen.

Damnit now I won’t get a custom banner that says “DrWilgy pressed his shirtless body against me.”

Also you’re wrong, but maybe you’re also wrong

And wrong of course

sprityo help me. I’m lost. I an suddenly incapable of understanding anything in this game unless you explain it to me in your own words. Tell me who the bad guys and good guys are, I’m begging you.

sabie is bad, because i said so

Werent you originally talking about nutella and mata???

I remember going over Lux's handling of the sabie wagon yesterday. It is not a good look for her. Rather than repeat myself, I'll link to the post where I broke it down. Lux was the most aggressive opponent to sprit's campaign against sabie. Others were questioning sprit, but Lux was shading him the whole time and even threw a vote at him at one point. Not a very good look.

There's also this post, which looks like she's holding the door open for Sabie to defend herself:

Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

Appeal to previous performances/claims to force a repeat narrative and also call the credibility of the accuser into question is a fairly scummy defense.

Also like, I feel like if this were actually genuine, her response would be more along the lines of "why are you doing this again spirityo?" rather than expositioning to the thread

The thing is that I’m pretty sure this is direct relation to a game that’s currently on going hence the inability to ask why

But that’s how I’m taking it to mean so

sabie12 what is the truth?

Not an unkind gesture, but something I have to wonder about if we're taking sabie to have been bad.

These interactions are more bad than good. Lux did appear interested in developing reads on sabie and Cooler at certain points, but when it came time to lynch them she seemed uncertain with Cooler, and vigilantly resistant with sabie.

[Sloonei]

Let there be Mac

Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.

Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.

I think this marks the first time anyone calls out Cooler all game. Good look for Mac Dougall.

Why is cooler bad from that Mac

Might not be. I just thought that accusing them of such would be a fun exercise.

Mac 101. I guess this doesn't tell me a whole lot about his alignment, but I feel like he'd be less inclined to dot his sort of thing with a teammate, especially this early in the game.

Lists of reads that first has Cooler as Bad and sabie as Good. He revises the list and has Cooler as good in the second draft because he doesn't have enough content at the time. The thought progression outlined in this post looks authentic, and if this is a Day 1 distancing tactic then Mac is playing this game on a different level than the rest of us. I do not read him as Cooler's teammate here.

He also cast the deciding vote to lynch Cooler. Yeah Mac's not a speedster. Do I even care about his sabie interactions? There's very little. He calls her a civilian on Day 1 and then just has a few indirect mentions of her. Meh. The Cooler interactions are enough for me. Mac's not on this team.

[Sloonei]

Out of the people currently with votes I think my suspicions are more towards lux.
Nutella is iffy and difficult to read because she is often pretty wishy washy as people said but I think right now I feel worse about lux.
I dont think cooler has really said much of anything and ultra idk I just figured they're new and trying to figure out how we do things.
I will take a look at some of the other people mentioned as well and reread lux iso.

Also I think I saw juliets you have been having a hard time I do hope you're okay!
I've had some stuff come up irl as well that has held me back from participating as much as I'd like to. My uncle unfortunately passed last week so I've had some family stuff going on.

damn, sorry for your loss

take what time you need to mourn, we wont bug you

This is the only result that comes up in MafiaMenace's ISO for both Cooler and sabie. He doesn't mention Cooler, but he appears in a post by Sabie that he is responding to. His response is off-topic. I can do nothing with this. His replacement entered the game after both sabie and cooler were gone.

[Epignosis]

Back to interactive reads since the thread is dead.

I asked two questions and don't have a satisfactory answer on either.

[Sloonei]

Back to interactive reads since the thread is dead.

I asked two questions and don't have a satisfactory answer on either.

I gave my answers.