Girl Genius (END)

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Poll ended at Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:09 pm

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juliets
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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I'm here, doing a read back. Started with Luna as she has votes and seems crucial to judge.

So it seems like the crux of the case on her is that ok day 1 she basically said eww don't like this creature post and also supported rej a bit but then came in at the last minute and quietly voted rej which essentially lynched him?

If she had more posts on day 1 I would agree that this looks bad, but we are talking about a single mention of creature and a single mention of rej so I'm not sure I am on board.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Epignosis wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am Let me ask a question of perception:

Pretend I was the author of Lunalee's posts and votes. What would be your opinion of me? Of Creature?
Epi, I would probably think you were bad because it would be so unlike you to get people confused and not place a vote on the person you had indicated earlier you were suspicious of. From Lunalee though it sounds plausible. I'm having a hard time trying to convince myself she is bad.

I have an appointment in an hour and a half that will last through EOD and am having a hard time seeing a mafia or that back stabbing girl. Someone just said it might be Epi but I'm confused about the evidence for that. I don't like that Drago has disappeared - did I miss something there?
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Long Con wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:35 am I also kind of think Epi is Zola Malfeazium, and every faction needs her to be dead if they want to win.
LC why do you think he is Zola?
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Lunalee wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:15 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:10 am
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am
Dom wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:30 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol
do you know that you have control of the amount of content in the thread?
Not when I'm not fucking here? Seriously dude you need to work on prioritizing your callouts to things that actually matter, not non-existent issues
I’m voting for Dom to put attention on this exchange. I feel like something is happening here but I don’t know what it is. But it’s visible to me and I want to make sure it’s visible to other people too. I won’t be here to do other things the rest of the day. Sorry.
um, looks like a lot of nothing to me.
That's the problem though. Dom is only commenting on things that are a whole lot of nothing
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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So looking back at charter about sig, the two people who most supported him on day 1 were creature and sloonei. Creature fairly directly, and sloonei a bit more indirectly. I will concentrate on reading them.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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timmer wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:17 am I'm here, doing a read back. Started with Luna as she has votes and seems crucial to judge.

So it seems like the crux of the case on her is that ok day 1 she basically said eww don't like this creature post and also supported rej a bit but then came in at the last minute and quietly voted rej which essentially lynched him?

If she had more posts on day 1 I would agree that this looks bad, but we are talking about a single mention of creature and a single mention of rej so I'm not sure I am on board.
I appreciate this perspective and I think it sounds sincere. Not sure if I agree yet but I'm certainly not 100% confident about Luna.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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I moved my vote back to Creature.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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I've placed a vote on creature as well, he was directly supportive of Sig in the thread. I'm reading sloonei next
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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timmer wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:45 am he was directly supportive of Sig in the thread.
Yes, because scum will directly defend each other.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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I could buy a nutella vote.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Hmm so sloonei did sort of support sig a bit, but a lot of the chat with Sig then came down to deflecting sig's ideas about sloonei so id say this is more null.

I'm comfortable labelling creature as a strong possible teammate of sig's, and from that I can admit that there is at least a bit of a chance that Luna could be, as well. But I'd rather Lynch someone with supportive posts than someone in luna's position, personally
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Creature wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:47 am
timmer wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:45 am he was directly supportive of Sig in the thread.
Yes, because scum will directly defend each other.
When there is a slight danger early on of Sig getting noticed and called out for his meta stuff, I believe a bit of easy early support in the thread would indeed happen. Nice and easy, just nip it quick.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Creature wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:48 am I could buy a nutella vote.
Why?
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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I am getting close to my deadline and am considering voting a non-contributor. I just haven't had as much time as I thought I would have to do analysis this morning and both Creature and Luna are feeling civ to me right now.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:18 am @Oreki was replaced by @sprityo

Sprityo cannot be lynched this day phase.
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2. Have you ever just made a not good decision but said fuck it? That’s basically what I’ve done
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Ok, I've got to go. I re-read the rules and realized the non-contributors will get mod killed or replaced so voting for one of them doesn't make sense. I re-read Tony and liked his posts about Drago, and where the heck is he anyway, so I'm going to vote there.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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juliets wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:28 pm I am getting close to my deadline and am considering voting a non-contributor. I just haven't had as much time as I thought I would have to do analysis this morning and both Creature and Luna are feeling civ to me right now.
Let's try this then:

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 0)

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What do sig's interactions with Dragomir indicate to you?
sig wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:40 pm I think both Drag abd Sloonie are mafia and this back and forth is a conspiracy. Feels very manufactured.
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:21 am
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am Current thoughts are in a world where Sloonie or Drag are mafia they either both are or neither are.
sig, can you talk through why you hold this opinion?
Drag's first post is reading gut bad to me, the way he upfront said he was a civ. Plus like I said I just find Sloonie/Drag interactions to be fake seeming like how two teammates would talk.
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Dragomir wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:52 am [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Rude you're "lynching" me for no plausible reason. Besides the fact you're miffed that I explained my meta which I frequently do given my lynch ratio here i guess. :shrug:

Or cause you and sloonie boy are mafia and my gut read is right. :ponder:
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Yeh, maybe the last post doesn't sound w/w.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Sig's interaction with Drago/Sloonei indicates that he's teamed with Sloonei. Obviously :goofp:
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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juliets wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:44 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:00 am [VOTE: Mac] aubergine
nova, can you talk about your vote? What are you seeing?
I'm seeing a criminal
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Mfw I don't trust anyone on the 2 main wagons lool
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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Nutella v Dom is baddie on baddie crime.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 2)

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nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:33 am
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:15 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:10 am
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am
Dom wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:30 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol
do you know that you have control of the amount of content in the thread?
Not when I'm not fucking here? Seriously dude you need to work on prioritizing your callouts to things that actually matter, not non-existent issues
I’m voting for Dom to put attention on this exchange. I feel like something is happening here but I don’t know what it is. But it’s visible to me and I want to make sure it’s visible to other people too. I won’t be here to do other things the rest of the day. Sorry.
um, looks like a lot of nothing to me.
That's the problem though. Dom is only commenting on things that are a whole lot of nothing
To steal your condescending tone: sorry sweetie, but that's you.
Epignosis wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:54 pm What do sig's interactions with Dragomir indicate to you?
sig wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:40 pm I think both Drag abd Sloonie are mafia and this back and forth is a conspiracy. Feels very manufactured.
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:21 am
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am Current thoughts are in a world where Sloonie or Drag are mafia they either both are or neither are.
sig, can you talk through why you hold this opinion?
Drag's first post is reading gut bad to me, the way he upfront said he was a civ. Plus like I said I just find Sloonie/Drag interactions to be fake seeming like how two teammates would talk.
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:19 am
Dragomir wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:52 am [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Rude you're "lynching" me for no plausible reason. Besides the fact you're miffed that I explained my meta which I frequently do given my lynch ratio here i guess. :shrug:

Or cause you and sloonie boy are mafia and my gut read is right. :ponder:
it looks not good.

novaselinenever wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm Nutella v Dom is baddie on baddie crime.
you say a lot of things
and you don't have no reasons for them.
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 0)

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Nutella ISO for you all, since I only say things that don't matter according to the queen of bullshit.

Day 0
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nutella wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:13 pm Sup, I am very busy irl (moving this weekend) so my activity may be sparser than usual.

And hey my super cool major is in the poll
nutella wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:14 pm I don't think that's how HIPAA works
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nutella wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:14 pm I don't think that's how HIPAA works
Aaaaaaannnd D1 lynch successfully found.
I like your spark kid but good luck lol
nutella wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:13 pm Drago, sloonei, sig all town. Dyslexicon and creature bad. Quin who knows.
nutella wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:15 pm Oh and the raspberry vinaigrette would be great with that, thanks.
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 am
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:17 am Drago is obvious town. Sloonei is obvious scum.
Hmm methinks mister spicy boi here might be the obvious scum he wants to see in the world
Almost all jokes. Claims sig and Drago are civs. Not a great look to me.
(2) posts on topic. Which is fine for Day 0. The content of those posts are just garbage. I don't trust Drago and sig was bad.

Day 1

nutella wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:18 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:11 pm Attention everyone. I don't like Nutella.
I'm on the same bus. She a bad girl.
Hey buzz off. I'm seriously too occupied with real life to deal with being suspected for no reason. Kindly direct your bullshit elsewhere.
This will be a pattern for nutella. She will continuously just say she's buy, but not too busy to complain about other people.
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Rej wrote:why you voting timmer now, you just pointed out he and me could be team mates
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[VOTE: rej] aubergine

(disclaimer: I am not caught up past that post, I've just had the most goddamn stressful evening ever and I won't be done freaking out until Sunday when moving is ideally all done but will try to keep up on the thread to the best of my ability)
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:31 pm I do not agree with Owner’s grievance against Tony, but I think she looks very town because of it.
My thoughts exactly
nutella wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:38 am caught up for now. right now I heavily suspect Rej and about 50/50 on whether timmer is his teammate or a townie that he tried to buddy with that awkward post.
nutella wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train
Four consecutive posts of "I agree".
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:18 am ........LC thinks Epi is on fire. Like in a good way.

Man, this Mercury retrograde really hit hard, huh.
This is her last post before I call her out for lack of content, but not posts.

You be the judge. Was that justified? Read this iso yourself. Is this the content she later claimed it to be?
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Dom wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:42 am
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:18 am ........LC thinks Epi is on fire. Like in a good way.

Man, this Mercury retrograde really hit hard, huh.
ha ha
you haven't shared a single thought all game. just posted about how you're not around and made snarky jokes.
what gives?
bullshit I have posted several thoughts. how about you actually read my posts and try again
I read your posts. I've made my commentary. I don't think it was unreasonable to say you weren't really playing.
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:48 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:28 am *is confused how Dragomir has 3 votes*
wait yeah what? I think he's been one of the more townie voices so far but apparently some people disagree
If this is my avenue of suspicion on Nutella, I'd like to lynch drago first.
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nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:10 pm hmm let's look at dom's iso and my iso and compare the volume of reads!

dom: 29 posts, many of which are just jokey banter and several more of which consist more of his particular brand of snarky prodding (usually exaggerating an insinuation about a player's behavior to an undeserved extent, such as the one I am debunking right now about my content).
Reads of players contained therein:
1. Suspects sig for appealing to meta
2. Doesn't like nova/creature exchange, doesn't like nova in general, votes nova.
3. Doesn't like the rej/timmer exchange, doesn't like rej in general, votes rej.
4. Not sure this counts as a read but repeated prodding of sloonei for dodging a question or something I don't follow, it's classic dom blowing up a molehill
5. Couple other things that don't really count as reads. Doesn't like timmer "downplaying his prowess," criticizes both LC and me for not producing enough content.

So that's somewhere between 4 and 7 reads on players. I don't know what Dom thinks about many other players. There are a lot that he straight up never mentioned. I'm sure the same is true for me, but I don't think he gets to be on his high horse about this.

Now me: 14 posts, a handful of which are either jokes or mentioning I'm busy.
1. "Drago, sig, sloonei all town. Dyslexicon and creature bad. Quin who knows." That's five and a half actual reads on player alignments right off the bat. In a single post I have reached read parity with Dom.
2. Called out nova for being spicy. Tbf still not sure how I feel about him so maybe that's another half read.
3. Hated rej's content and voted for him. Wasn't sure about timmer's position in the situation.
4. Think Owner is town.
5. Said dizzy could be 3p.

That's like... eight or nine reads.

Basically Dom is full of shit. I know that his way of calling people out for little things is consistent with his town meta, but when I actually break it down and compare it to the rest of his content, I'm not impressed. He's using his nudges to push people into the spotlight to draw attention away from his own hypocrisy.
This is the post where nutella defends her record and tries to savage mine. You be the judge, I guess.

I don't think my analysis is unfair.
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:12 pm
timmer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:56 am I'd actively like to hear from mr. Dragomir...

I wanted rej to open up a bit about the game, because we've all blindered ourselves as civs at least once, and I thought posts about others might give us a better picture.

Well here he says dragomir should be able to read his meta and know that this is a civ rej move... So, id like to hear about this from dragomir, who sure went quiet after it seemed like this Lynch was a done deal.

The flip side to this? Rej finding only something to say about someone who is voting him is s bit self serving and calculated, so I'm definitely not moving my vote at this time.
Hmmmm this is pretty insightful. I'll have to look into drago/rej interactions and maybe I'll understand more why people suspect drago.
Now drago might be bad. Could be genuine, we'll see!
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:05 pm
Rej wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:49 pm Nutella played basically like this:
-fluffing from the sidelines (early posts)
-lunching me, also commenting from the sidelines
-doing a pseudo iso on Dom and some gth
-commenting from the sidelines

I heard nutella can perform far more impressive, I don't know her meta, but did she bring forward the DP somehow?
I don't mind voting between Drago and Nutella right now.
Not sure what you mean bring forward the dp, but I am considering the other side after your recent posts. I won't have time to look much into Drago before the deadline, but based on how the discussion goes I could be convinced to vote him over you.
AGain-- she says she'll follow up. We'll see.
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nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:53 pm @nutella Why do you have a read on me before I started to play the game though? I've posted plenty now. Kind of meh about you defending "I'm having reads" when you're just throwing out stuff without basis like your read on me.
That's how I play. I have at different points in the game read you as mafia, indie, and town. Just because my reads can change based on later content doesn't mean they aren't real reads at the time I post them.
Here I am seeing a defense of a meta. Sure. Whatever.
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:16 pm
Rej wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:09 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:05 pm
Rej wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:49 pm Nutella played basically like this:
-fluffing from the sidelines (early posts)
-lunching me, also commenting from the sidelines
-doing a pseudo iso on Dom and some gth
-commenting from the sidelines

I heard nutella can perform far more impressive, I don't know her meta, but did she bring forward the DP somehow?
I don't mind voting between Drago and Nutella right now.
Not sure what you mean bring forward the dp, but I am considering the other side after your recent posts. I won't have time to look much into Drago before the deadline, but based on how the discussion goes I could be convinced to vote him over you.
Are you just convinced by my posts or do you have an own opinion on the drago case? I don't see myself as overly good scumhunter, but I just feel like pointing out some things and getting some things pointed out.

Bringing forward the DP = contributing and concluding. For your case the only noteable I have seen was an ISO case on Dom for example.
Mostly starting to be convinced by your posts, but I also liked rimmer's point about drago's relative lack of comment on your lynch train (which I still need to verify for myself)
Admits she hasn't really followed up on the thing she said she would. Maybe she will!
BUT ! All of a sudden, she is even more open to the idea. It's almost like her following up is not really going to change anything because this is pre-planned? Got to start distancing from Drago?
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:19 pm
timmer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:10 pm This: "does it mean that this are mostly civillians jumping over to look and make right decisions or could it be baddies who approach to save someone?"

This: "On the other side I don't know if mafia profits from mislynching Dragomir, when Dragomir approaches me or other people agressively. "

This: "I heard nutella can perform far more impressive"

The first two statements have a real calculation behind them. I don't think a civ would care this much about trying to define the makeup of a Lynch train. It's day 1. Stuff happens and we vote. But why worry about how a mislynch would look? A civ shouldn't care how a Lynch would look to baddies at all, and a civ seems less likely to use the term mislynch here because a civ rej doesn't know what drag is.

The third statement makes me wonder about btsc.


So I'm staying put.
Aaand now this is making me feel better about staying on rej.
Just kidding.
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Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:16 pm Wait, is day ending in like 2 hours?
Yep. You should be able to set your timezone on the forum
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:20 pmLol, rimmer
Non-content.

At this point, I start to realize that my prodding her worked. She is participating more.
nutella wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:07 pm
Rej wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:59 pm If the wagons will be frozen like this, then I have no other option than switching over to Creature and trust the senses of those voting for him.
I'm down for this. I find myself agreeing more and more with dizzy that you make more sense as town here, and I suspected creature early. Let's try it. [VOTE: creature] aubergine
Three posts prior, she was convinced she should stay on Rej. Then, rej himself convinces her to vote on an opposing lynch train.

Okay?

Day 2

nutella wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:07 pm RIP dizzy, and guess I can't read sig for shit. I like owner's "cluster" theory and think Mac is town; would be willing to lynch epi for sure.
This is nutella's first mention of Epi beyond saying it's weird that LC and Epi are posting the way they are.

And he's bad?
And Mac is town?

I haven't seen enough out of Mac either way.
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:06 am
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.
I got that, and I dig it.
You might recall that literally one post ago, nutella was saying she'd lynch the guy giving her a suggestion that she voices openness to.
Why? What gives?
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:15 am You guys can dislike my fickle agreements with things all you want but they are sincere. I liked owner's thoughts on epi, and now I like epi's case on Luna/creature/Michelle even more (I already suspected creature and I have not felt good about any of Luna's posts). I'm not convinced epi is town from it, I'm still not totally clear on how many factions are at play but even if he is really hunting scum he's not necessarily town. However, I have been imagining him as being on sig's team, so is there another team such that that could be true as well as his proposed suspects? I really need to actually read the setup lol.
Sure.
Nutella is known waffler. She often doesn't taken real stances.
But she's not really even doing that. She's only hugging other people's suspicions and then complaining those suspicions aren't being created fast enough for her.
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The infamous post that I called out because for the second time, it's striking me that nutella isn't really producing content, but rather complaining that others aren't.
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:04 pm Cool cool cool so Jack is bad. Good to know
Jack is bad because he says he's behind.
I actually dig that if Jack never follows up.
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nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:03 pm .....oh yeah who is that and what happened to them lol
A piggyback on LC.
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am
Dom wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:30 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol
do you know that you have control of the amount of content in the thread?
Not when I'm not fucking here? Seriously dude you need to work on prioritizing your callouts to things that actually matter, not non-existent issues
What matters?
Why don't you tell me? Seriously. Tell me.
Because I've read every post you've made and made a post by post commentary and I'm unsure on what matters to you.
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Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:03 pm
You also are making me work.

1) That she confused Creature for Rej
2) That she voted at the last minute despite it being an inopportune time
3) That she innocently voted for a civilian when the person she said she said she suspected was up for lynch
4) That she felt the need to vote at all despite being uninformed (as she claimed).

That's a lot to buy.
This is a good summary. [VOTE: luna] aubergine
An Epi piggyback-- someone she said she'd lynch at dawn.
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me: huh im just here to catch up from when I wasn't here, surprised other players haven't posted more
dom: uhm sweaty guess u should have posted more while you weren't here so you could at least catch up on your own posts :-))))
epi: haha yeah u so rite
dom: rite??? she must be bad lmao
me: stares into the camera like on the office
In which nutella appropriates a meme to make fun of me and the guy who she's following into a lynch.
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:33 am
That's the problem though. Dom is only commenting on things that are a whole lot of nothing
I've yet to figure out what is "something".
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:37 am
timmer wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:17 am I'm here, doing a read back. Started with Luna as she has votes and seems crucial to judge.

So it seems like the crux of the case on her is that ok day 1 she basically said eww don't like this creature post and also supported rej a bit but then came in at the last minute and quietly voted rej which essentially lynched him?

If she had more posts on day 1 I would agree that this looks bad, but we are talking about a single mention of creature and a single mention of rej so I'm not sure I am on board.
I appreciate this perspective and I think it sounds sincere. Not sure if I agree yet but I'm certainly not 100% confident about Luna.
Okay. this is actually very typical nutella. She often times isn't staunch in her beliefs. However...
What are her other options? She's not weighing them. She's not being thoughtful. That's not good.
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I'm cool with dragomir, lunalee or nutella going. Maybe creature.
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On my note about it being worth noticing if JoH ever catches back up etc.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:33 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol
I am not going to argue with it since I am so far behind. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I don't see much progress from here. Just one thing where he asked lunalee to respond to a point he made.
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Dom wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:31 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm Nutella v Dom is baddie on baddie crime.
you say a lot of things
and you don't have no reasons for them.
Reasons are overrated.
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Especially when dealing with straight facts.
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Dom wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:59 pm I'm cool with dragomir, lunalee or nutella going. Maybe creature.
Do you any preference?
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So for some reason I thought, that this day phase would end tomorrow not today. I guess I have the last hour to read and try to give thoughts. So the Keeper for the Monster of the Week that I'm in has scheduling conflicts, so I've been working on a 1 shot game to run this weekend. I've only moderated forum mafia games not actually dmed before, so yeah..no pressure.
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Dom wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:59 pm I'm cool with dragomir, lunalee or nutella going. Maybe creature.
I'm also cool doing any of the first three, but should probably look at http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p548500 regarding sig/Drago.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:01 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:21 am
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am
sig wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am Current thoughts are in a world where Sloonie or Drag are mafia they either both are or neither are.
sig, can you talk through why you hold this opinion?
Drag's first post is reading gut bad to me, the way he upfront said he was a civ. Plus like I said I just find Sloonie/Drag interactions to be fake seeming like how two teammates would talk.
This is the part of sig's ISO that I am getting hung up. I don't think it's impossible for this read to exist, but at the same time I don't see a good reason for it to be there. He's waved his hand at some unspecified interactions I've had with Dragomir and said that they look like teammate interactions. I do not know what specific exchange(s) he is referring to, and I don't know why those exchanges are being perceived that way.

I have read things now, but I have to go do hosting stuff at the penitentiary and then i'll probably be in and out for... most of this day phase. I'm packing up and leaving for Masschusetts in the next couple of days.

I'll plop a vote on [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine because I want to know who her Day 0 town read was and also if any new ones have developed since then.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

He makes a point talk about sig's comment about him and Drag, but then votes of juliets for weakish reason. I guess I'm thinking maybe it's an awkward partner interaction.
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Creature wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:30 pm
Dom wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:59 pm I'm cool with dragomir, lunalee or nutella going. Maybe creature.
I'm also cool doing any of the first three, but should probably look at http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p548500 regarding sig/Drago.
hmm, maybe sloonei is fine and it's actually drago, and nutella I should be worried about?

has lunalee done much yet? I probably shouldn't be asking with how much little number of posts that I have made.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:04 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:42 pm im petty so im voting [VOTE: creature] aubergine until he's put in an equal amount of Day 1 effort to all the whinging about not being able to do anything yet he did during day 0.
For the record, Creature spent most of the early part of Fallout complaining that town wasn't doing enough and then ended up being town himself.

i thought i had posted this earlier but it got caught in linki on a separate tab.
Partner interaction? likely not,

Is Quin's vote deserving scrutiny or not might be another question for later on.
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juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:17 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:07 pm
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:59 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 pm
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:18 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:07 pm Also I labelled you as bad from your first post, what do you think about that?
You are mistaken. What did you see you thought was bad?
Hmm we'll see. I'm not really sure, I guess I felt something was off about your usual opening post. It felt kind of cold and distant rather than welcoming. A replica instead of the genuine thing. The heavy punctuation I think lol.
Nova, are you sure you're not thinking of some other post? This was my first post of the game (below). It has two periods and two commas. Is that heavy punctuation?
juliets wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm hi everyone, I'm here. Happy to see some friendly faces and welcome to the newcomers, I hope you enjoy the game.
That's the one! No mistake, it's you. I guess heavy punctuation might be an exaggeration, but the cold and distant feeling are still there. Maybe it's the lack of exclamation point lol. Gut feeling was that it is fabricated, I'm not getting your usual energy and enthusiasm. Feels like you're just replicating it to keep up with your usual opening posts.
You're not getting my usual energy and enthusiasm? I don't understand your impression but arguing with you over an impression seems like a waste of time.
Wish Dizzy were here then I'd ask him if this clash is similar to the kind of clashes that Alles and I had.

But since he's dead, I guess I'll just have mull over whether or not juliets is being defensive in a good or bad way.
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methinks

Nova is town or culted.
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Creature wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:20 pm Okay, maybe something interesting might happen soon.
:O The "interesting" tell
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Creature for 3p? or just a playful townie...not sure...not sure
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juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:12 pm
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:43 pm
juliets wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am Pretty good Owner. I think I've spotted a civ among the talkers but I'll hold off naming them until day 1 after I observe some more behavior. How bout you?
Can you tell us now?
I lean civ on Creature right now but I'm gonna hold back my reason until I see some more behavior.

Wait, what - you voted for me while I was answering your question?

linki
I suppose I did.

Got any other reads? Why are you in the habit of holding back information in the early stages of this game?
Habit? We're talking about one person, hardly a habit.

I have a civ lean on Creature because his groaning about being bored and multiple posts also happened in another game where he was civ. He also did the multiple posting early on in a game where he was bad but there was a difference that if you don't mind I'd like to keep to myself for the time being.

I'll give some GTH reads - which is all I can give so early in a game - at a later time. I'm with family and we have dinner and entertainment plans.

lots of linki I will read later
Also town lean Creature, okay maybe she's fine. But yeah, I feel like I should have put more time into this. derp
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:33 pm Tag me when someone does something worth reading
Does Mac leave the work to others a lot?
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Dragomir wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:41 pm @Sloonei Sig GTH read. Gimme.

But Drag did ask the GTH read..could it have been to get reads on a partner? hmm
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Mmm I actually agree with Nova that sloonei looks more like a potential sig teammate than Drago, and the sloonei post owner quoted wasn't great.
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Fuck me im not caught up. Point me towards the cases on Luna and Drago (or whoever).
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[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine if there's some chance there, otherwise I think creature or luna would both be fine choices over drago.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:50 pm Fuck me im not caught up. Point me towards the cases on Luna and Drago (or whoever).
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Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:39 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:20 pm Okay, maybe something interesting might happen soon.
:O The "interesting" tell
That is not what the interesting tell is.

The interesting tell is saying something is “interesting” because scum doesn’t know what to say about the thing.
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nutella wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:50 pm Fuck me im not caught up. Point me towards the cases on Luna and Drago (or whoever).
:suspish:
I’ve had the most frustrating meetings today you don’t even know.
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Dom wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:01 pm On my note about it being worth noticing if JoH ever catches back up etc.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:33 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm ......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol
I am not going to argue with it since I am so far behind. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I don't see much progress from here. Just one thing where he asked lunalee to respond to a point he made.
Yeah sue me.
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