Girl Genius (END)

[Sloonei]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

It's the entrance I imagine scum doing.

Why? What’s the mindset behind a post like that?

“Let’s rejoice that Zola is dead but oh what would Town think they’d probably be mildly concerned about losing two important roles”

I wanted Creature’s answer.

[Sloonei]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

What are Freddy mechanics?

RIP nova and quin, sad to see you both go.

I think he’s referring to a player from HCRealms, Fredwood. I’m guessing he’s known for mechanical analysis. He’s played a few games here.

Now tell me who you’ll belooking at today, juliets.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

RIP Doctor and Vigilante. That sucks. BUT Luna was Zola, and everyone rejoiced, right? We can all put aside our differences and raise a glass to that evil role being gone. Thank you, Epi!

I don't like this. The thank you Epi feels like you are happy that he's gone.

The main mafia team is still mostly at large. There's no time to celebrate yet.

You are too calm at the moment.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Also, Quin did call you scum. I guess nova could have shot him though...*hmmm, is unsure*

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] replaced [mention]RainyDay[/mention]

He cannot be lynched this day phase.

[juliets]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

What are Freddy mechanics?

RIP nova and quin, sad to see you both go.

I think he’s referring to a player from HCRealms, Fredwood. I’m guessing he’s known for mechanical analysis. He’s played a few games here.

Now tell me who you’ll belooking at today, juliets.

Oh yes, I know Fredwood. Didn't know he was known for mechanical analysis.

I've got to re-read everyone who is alive, it's been too many days since I studied this game. The other game had ahold of my brain. I also want to skim through nova and Quin and see if there is anything there we need to look at in terms of kill analysis.

linki

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If anyone is worried, I've concluded the fact his previous role was the cop presents no specific threat to this game's integrity. In any case, please do not ask him talk about his previous life to avoid tricky situations.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Basically his N1 ability failed so he never investigated anyone.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

Clearly the only solution is to get Freddy to play more games here.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

Scum will slip sometimes. Like for instance why are you suspicious of this? I have pretty much the same reaction to Long Con's post. I think Creature has a good chance to be town.

There's still lots of mafia to eliminate I don't feel like I can celebrate anytime soon. I know we just eliminated scum, but that doesn't complete our wincon. I mean at the very least we aren't there yet. And if I look at the scum win rates on this site, I have plenty of reasons to stress needing to keep the momentum going and lynch more and more scum until they are all dead and town wins.

Okay yeah, I don't know Creature's alignment, but the mind meld I'm having with him on Long Con being scummy for that post, makes me really think that Creature is town.

[Epignosis]

Basically his N1 ability failed so he never investigated anyone.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

It's the entrance I imagine scum doing.

^^This

[Sloonei]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

Scum will slip sometimes. Like for instance why are you suspicious of this? I have pretty much the same reaction to Long Con's post. I think Creature has a good chance to be town.

There's still lots of mafia to eliminate I don't feel like I can celebrate anytime soon. I know we just eliminated scum, but that doesn't complete our wincon. I mean at the very least we aren't there yet. And if I look at the scum win rates on this site, I have plenty of reasons to stress needing to keep the momentum going and lynch more and more scum until they are all dead and town wins.

Okay yeah, I don't know Creature's alignment, but the mind meld I'm having with him on Long Con being scummy for that post, makes me really think that Creature is town.

Who said I was suspicious of it?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

Scum will slip sometimes. Like for instance why are you suspicious of this? I have pretty much the same reaction to Long Con's post. I think Creature has a good chance to be town.

There's still lots of mafia to eliminate I don't feel like I can celebrate anytime soon. I know we just eliminated scum, but that doesn't complete our wincon. I mean at the very least we aren't there yet. And if I look at the scum win rates on this site, I have plenty of reasons to stress needing to keep the momentum going and lynch more and more scum until they are all dead and town wins.

Okay yeah, I don't know Creature's alignment, but the mind meld I'm having with him on Long Con being scummy for that post, makes me really think that Creature is town.

Who said I was suspicious of it?

I did? Me: Your point is?

You were asking for Creature's reason. I assumed you were suspicious, otherwise you may have felt to urge to vote the same way that Creature did.

[Dom]

what

[Sloonei]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

So you think that post was made by scum Long Con because he’s just so excited about how well his team is doing that he just can’t hide it anymore?

Scum will slip sometimes. Like for instance why are you suspicious of this? I have pretty much the same reaction to Long Con's post. I think Creature has a good chance to be town.

There's still lots of mafia to eliminate I don't feel like I can celebrate anytime soon. I know we just eliminated scum, but that doesn't complete our wincon. I mean at the very least we aren't there yet. And if I look at the scum win rates on this site, I have plenty of reasons to stress needing to keep the momentum going and lynch more and more scum until they are all dead and town wins.

Okay yeah, I don't know Creature's alignment, but the mind meld I'm having with him on Long Con being scummy for that post, makes me really think that Creature is town.

Who said I was suspicious of it?

I did? Me: Your point is?

You were asking for Creature's reason. I assumed you were suspicious, otherwise you may have felt to urge to vote the same way that Creature did.

You have misread the situation.

[Sloonei]

What other reads do you have, Owner?

[Long Con]

Owner, Creature, no. Take a step back, and come back trying harder.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Owner, Creature, no. Take a step back, and come back trying harder.

Is this all you got? But still I don't get why you are celebrating when we have only killed one mafia so far this game and most of our thanks for that was likely because of nova.

[Long Con]

If anyone wants to win, there's a good chance they needed Luna dead. Even a team playing a near-perfect game would be sandbagged by her in the end. It's a cruel role, a backstabbing win-stealer.

I don't get why you are taking my celebration of Zola's death and shaming me for not respecting the gravity of the situation. What are you, the fun police?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

If anyone wants to win, there's a good chance they needed Luna dead. Even a team playing a near-perfect game would be sandbagged by her in the end. It's a cruel role, a backstabbing win-stealer.

I don't get why you are taking my celebration of Zola's death and shaming me for not respecting the gravity of the situation. What are you, the fun police?

Why are you defensive? That is unnecessary. I just not sure if I can really be celebrating when I haven't lynched a single mafia member yet.

You just feel calmer than I would expect from another town player. You could very well be town here, but lots of scum do slip a calm mentality when they are ahead. That's a possibility that I still intend to explore, because sometimes scum will post RIP posts because of guilt.

Still, I don't know if that would be nai for you or not.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Epignosis replaced RainyDay

He cannot be lynched this day phase.

Also, welcome back epi. any thoughts as a new player in said game?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Dang, RIP Mac and Epi, two good roles in one night.

Also isn't Luna dead?

I guess if I'm questioning Long Con's entrance; I should be looking into juliets entrance as well. hmm

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

@TonyStarkPrime you voted for Jack pretty early today. I looked through your ISO but didn't see anything about him. Can you talk to me about your vote?

Juliets not with jack?

hmm

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

or maybe juliets with jack looking at tony for clarification? hmm

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I probably need to look at timmer more as well...derp

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Or is jack scum too? *sorry i'm rambling out loud again*

[Dragomir]

This might come off as sheepish but Idc. [VOTE: long Con] aubergine

Didn't like his entrance.

What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

Why am I in this equation? There's nothing wrong with my post.

[Dragomir]

Or is jack scum too? *sorry i'm rambling out loud again*

Calm down and evaluate these people first.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

What are Freddy mechanics?

RIP nova and quin, sad to see you both go.

I think he’s referring to a player from HCRealms, Fredwood. I’m guessing he’s known for mechanical analysis. He’s played a few games here.

Now tell me who you’ll belooking at today, juliets.

Oh that’s not it. I do miss Fred though. We played in the hydra championship on mafiauniverse and that was the least fun game I’ve ever played in my life I’ve never seen so many people go berserk.

Jack can you explain this one
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Really not liking the immediate hop onto LC. His first post today was scummy but I’m of the opinion that it’s easy to read every single death reaction post as scummy if so inclined.

[Dom]

timmer is probably bad guys

What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

why

[Long Con]

If anyone wants to win, there's a good chance they needed Luna dead. Even a team playing a near-perfect game would be sandbagged by her in the end. It's a cruel role, a backstabbing win-stealer.

I don't get why you are taking my celebration of Zola's death and shaming me for not respecting the gravity of the situation. What are you, the fun police?

Why are you defensive? That is unnecessary.

I don't really think I was. However, calling someone out as "defensive" IS something I have used before, as mafia, to shade a player. (Epi am I using that word wrong?)

I just not sure if I can really be celebrating when I haven't lynched a single mafia member yet.

You just feel calmer than I would expect from another town player. You could very well be town here, but lots of scum do slip a calm mentality when they are ahead.

That is not something I have experienced. I don't think that's a thing.

That's a possibility that I still intend to explore, because sometimes scum will post RIP posts because of guilt.

That, I have seen before. I've played Mafia for a while. Long enough to not post RIP posts out of guilt. I mean, I've had this conversation before, more than once. I sometimes post RIP posts.

Still, I don't know if that would be nai for you or not.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] was replaced by [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]

I'm aware some people dislike dead replacements, but I dislike modkills even more, so bare with me. Thanks for understanding.

Again, Dyslexicon cannot be lynched this day.

[Sloonei]

peace out dudes. Today was the only day for a while that I could really devote any time to the game.

[Epignosis]

I recommend that everyone wait to vote until I have a chance to tell you all what to do.

[Epignosis]

Wait, wait, wait.

I died Night 2.

It's now Day 4.

I died on page 21.

It is now page 24, and a bunch of those are Chess posts.

Are any fucks being given at all?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

This might come off as sheepish but Idc. [VOTE: long Con] aubergine

Didn't like his entrance.

What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

Why am I in this equation? There's nothing wrong with my post.

Sometimes, scum will ask town players why they are suspicious of their partner. Other times, scum will ask town player A about town player B that town player A seems to be suspicious of. The scum in this instance would be gathering information and reasons to also suspect town player B.

^^ This mentions 2 reasons why you are in that equation.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Wait, wait, wait.

I died Night 2.

It's now Day 4.

I died on page 21.

It is now page 24, and a bunch of those are Chess posts.

Are any fucks being given at all?

This is my day off. But yeah, I probably was more lazy than I could have been. Thanks for being observant about the state of the game that we are currently at.

[Epignosis]

Can't hurt. I'll look through Epi's posts tonight to see if I see anything. He might have soft-revealed a green peek or two as well, but [VOTE: Luna] aubergine seems very solid.

I don't see how any of this could have been possible given that only one relevant Night phase occurred between the very first post and death.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I also like to make motivational speeches after only one of my teammates dying before D4.

Meh.

[Long Con]

Wait, wait, wait.

I died Night 2.

It's now Day 4.

I died on page 21.

It is now page 24, and a bunch of those are Chess posts.

Are any fucks being given at all?

I think the Schrodinger's Red Peek on Luna might have created some complacency... and it just turns out to be unhelpful for votes going forward.

[Long Con]

Can't hurt. I'll look through Epi's posts tonight to see if I see anything. He might have soft-revealed a green peek or two as well, but [VOTE: Luna] aubergine seems very solid.

I don't see how any of this could have been possible given that only one relevant Night phase occurred between the very first post and death.

Yeah... it felt later?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Spoiler: show

Especially when dealing with straight facts.

You haven't presented a single one.

I'm cool with dragomir, lunalee or nutella going. Maybe creature.

Do you any preference?

I kept my vote where it was and I'm happy with the result.

Tag me when someone does something worth reading

Does Mac leave the work to others a lot?

No.

Fuck me im not caught up. Point me towards the cases on Luna and Drago (or whoever).

lol this reeks.

On my note about it being worth noticing if JoH ever catches back up etc.

......hello-o-ooo??!?? kinda expected to have more to read here lol

I am not going to argue with it since I am so far behind.

I don't see much progress from here. Just one thing where he asked lunalee to respond to a point he made.

Yeah sue me.

ok [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

......that's not even a case

and yet it nailed you-- didn't it?

it's literally just a summary of my posts there is no thesis

sometimes you don't need to be so arrogant to arrive at an errant conclusion.

I am back. Who should I vote for?

not me.

Watch me fuck this up.

This is not tmi but rather a losing streak eating my self confidence.

....yikes

[VOTE: luna] aubergine

nutella’s vote for me is silly, but they always are. Why does she have votes?

Cause she’s contributing nothing and throwing shade.

I took a quick glance at her posts and did not get this impression.

A few things that have been said about luna looked good to me, and she made one post earlier that looked like mafia trying to downplay suspicion. That constitutes a strong vote for me at this moment in time.

She’s called me scum twice for no good reason.

There's reason.
She needed to go, but she wasn't wrong about you.


let's remmeber nutella was bad.
where does that lead us?

Some of this looks pretty decent (thanks Dom), jack being pretty willing to vote almost anywhere probably looks like the worst statement from them.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

Fredy kluger?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.

What are Freddy mechanics?

RIP nova and quin, sad to see you both go.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

He’s not referring to Fredwood.

He’s referring to a mechanic originally created by the legendary CarlosMucha for a horror themed game. Freddy Kruger was a vigilante who could only target players who had fallen asleep ie who hadn’t posted during the previous day phase.

[Epignosis]

Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

This stinks.

"If Luna is bad, then Creature is the obvious target."

That's logic I can follow.

"But Creature isn't bad."

That's logic I can't.

[Epignosis]

Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

The player who wants to look very Civ will sternly advise us to play the rest of the Day as though Luna were not on the table.

[Epignosis]

You also are making me work.

1) That she confused Creature for Rej
2) That she voted at the last minute despite it being an inopportune time
3) That she innocently voted for a civilian when the person she said she said she suspected was up for lynch
4) That she felt the need to vote at all despite being uninformed (as she claimed).

That's a lot to buy.

Lunalee, yesterday I read your explanation for your vote as sincere but today I have to question my judgement because Epi is dead.

This quote is Epi's boiled down version of why he found you to be bad. I need to understand points 2 and 4 a little better.

You are at a wedding and it is about to begin. You do not feel well informed on the game. Why would you go to the trouble of getting on your phone, at a wedding, and place a vote in those circumstances, especially such a critical vote? Why not forego the vote and let everyone know afterwords time got away from you and you were not in a circumstance where you could place a vote, plus you were not comfortable the you had your facts straight? Can you see why that looks odd?

I don't think this is a fair criticism.

Mafia is more important than weddings. If Luna hadn't cast her vote, she'd have been lynched. So you're basically making the argument that Luna should die or Luna should die.

Which is fine if that's because you scumread her so much but it's getting the cart before the horse or whatever the appropriate metaphor is.

I'm saying this looks like distancing.

Wait, what? She would have been lynched? I'll look back at the vote count but I don't think you are correct on that.

Maybe I'm not. I thought Luna and Nutella were basically tied at eod.

You're just looking at the wrong day. Luna's vote at the wedding happened Day 1 so thats the vote total you want to take a look at.

Okay then I resend the wolf points I gave you.

The language here indicates that Jack is giving the points back to juliets, not taking them away.

[Epignosis]

I disliked last DP timmer's posts and i hoped to have now more content to check it. But is not happening this.

Given that Lunalee was independent and not aligned to the mafia, this at face value looks good to me- an uninvited willingness to direct attention elsewhere.

[Epignosis]

I said I would do things today. I am a liar. But it seems we have a probable cop-confirmed suspect on our hands, so if there’s any day for me to be an absolute fart, it’s today.

Civilian Sloonei takes the "cop-confirmed suspect" and uses the Day phase to get shit done, not be an absolute fart.