Persona 5 Mafia [Game End]

[nutella]

Anyone else worried about Jack?

Me.

Let's see if the plinko ball bounces this way.

Fake solving is like a Plinko board. Yes, there's movement, but it's like... discreet steps, and it's always moving towards just a couple outcomes. An individual movement might look somewhat fluid, but if you look at the whole board, it's easy to see how structured and rigid it really is.

Credit to Newcomb for the fun Price Is Right analogy. If you're going to invoke it though you need to know what it is!

I still think Jack looks fine.

Ahh I get it now and it makes total sense that Jack had the same misinterpretation I had because it made sense in that context

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jay: Mac going after Sprityo is lousy cause lhf.

Also Jay: What if Creature is bad?

1) Creature is not low-hanging fruit if numerous players read him as civilian.

2) sprityo can be bad anyway, whatever. Consistency is meaningless

Plink plink plink

It’s a neat analogy, but applying it here is nonsense. My reads in this mess are the opposite of Plinko. I am all over the place

...I must still misunderstand the plinko thing bc I thought that's basically what it meant and what jack is pointing out

It means all over the place in an unnatural sounding way I suppose.

Like when Jay shifts his reads on me, you, Mac, Creature, etc suddenly.

I'd make the argument that that's a good thing.

Why are unnatural sounding reads a good thing?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Mafia] don't disappear abruptly, they don't come up with excuses all the time.

This statement is in fact false, if not impossible to prove.

Jack, Myself, and Rej had a minimal played game and we won Sockville Penitentiary

I literally didn't show up until day 3 (not because i didnt want to but still)

The man's not wrong.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm looking at TSP's play in Fallout (he was mafia and played well -- he was only lynched with behind-the-scenes Sloonei heroics) and comparing it to this one, exclusively for pre-Night 1 content.

Fallout

Persona 5

First look: general activity level by post rate.

Fallout - 28 posts in 48 hours - avg 0.59 posts per hour
Persona 5 - 99 posts in 78.5 hours - avg 1.26 posts per hour

His activity rate in this game is better than double that of Fallout. Cool.

Second look: response to suspicion/criticism

Fallout

Nothing to go on?!? I said like half a dozen things.
Analysis in less words than Mac: a lot of hedging. Too many words for no real scum accusation.
A general tell especially early is that mafia makes town reads and that town makes scum reads within this kinda context and this seems clear of that but clear in the sense that every analysis was “this seems suspicious I wonder what I think about that will you please tell me what I should think about it”

This was a response to his teammate sabie in that game. It's dramatic (see: "?!?"). That's actually about the only half-relevant bit from that game's Day 1. Tony had a very clean game.

Persona 5
Not dramatic
Not dramatic
Could be called dramatic, but I don't really feel that
Not dramatic

It's a small sample size. For whatever it's worth though, I think it's to Tony's credit.

Third look: reads

Fallout
Throws out blank town read on Epi
Generic prod of Long Con with vote
Generic prod of BWT with vote
Descriptive but also non-concrete suspicion of teammate sabie
Hops on Epi's suspicion of sabie / vague gripe with LC
Synopsis: Tony's reads were empty throughout the early game here except when he was talking about his teammate.

Persona 5
Avoidant of nutella/JJJ spat, gut town on both
Orange on Drago and Jack for heaping on early suspicion of me
GTH scum on Epi
Said Rej willfully misinterpreted him
More complete reads list
Reiterated suspicion of nutella and Dragomir
Accuses nutella of parroting Mac's sprityo suspicion
GTH reads -- only change I note from previous reads is Rej (slight town to scum)
Synopsis: Tony casts a considerably wider net in this early game. His reads are still a bit blank at times, but they aren't token prods. It isn't hard to find a concrete reason for most of it.

I think these differences are important and work in Tony's favor.

~~~

Net positive for Tony. I welcome feedback. I grant that much of this is circumstantial and two different games cannot be compared with perfect congruency. We do our best.

inb4 JaY iS fAkInG eFfoRt FoR cReDiT

[nutella]

I'm looking at TSP's play in Fallout (he was mafia and played well -- he was only lynched with behind-the-scenes Sloonei heroics) and comparing it to this one, exclusively for pre-Night 1 content.

Fallout

Persona 5

First look: general activity level by post rate.

Fallout - 28 posts in 48 hours - avg 0.59 posts per hour
Persona 5 - 99 posts in 78.5 hours - avg 1.26 posts per hour

His activity rate in this game is better than double that of Fallout. Cool.

Second look: response to suspicion/criticism

Fallout

Nothing to go on?!? I said like half a dozen things.
Analysis in less words than Mac: a lot of hedging. Too many words for no real scum accusation.
A general tell especially early is that mafia makes town reads and that town makes scum reads within this kinda context and this seems clear of that but clear in the sense that every analysis was “this seems suspicious I wonder what I think about that will you please tell me what I should think about it”

This was a response to his teammate sabie in that game. It's dramatic (see: "?!?"). That's actually about the only half-relevant bit from that game's Day 1. Tony had a very clean game.

Persona 5
Not dramatic
Not dramatic
Could be called dramatic, but I don't really feel that
Not dramatic

It's a small sample size. For whatever it's worth though, I think it's to Tony's credit.

Third look: reads

Fallout
Throws out blank town read on Epi
Generic prod of Long Con with vote
Generic prod of BWT with vote
Descriptive but also non-concrete suspicion of teammate sabie
Hops on Epi's suspicion of sabie / vague gripe with LC
Synopsis: Tony's reads were empty throughout the early game here except when he was talking about his teammate.

Persona 5
Avoidant of nutella/JJJ spat, gut town on both
Orange on Drago and Jack for heaping on early suspicion of me
GTH scum on Epi
Said Rej willfully misinterpreted him
More complete reads list
Reiterated suspicion of nutella and Dragomir
Accuses nutella of parroting Mac's sprityo suspicion
GTH reads -- only change I note from previous reads is Rej (slight town to scum)
Synopsis: Tony casts a considerably wider net in this early game. His reads are still a bit blank at times, but they aren't token prods. It isn't hard to find a concrete reason for most of it.

I think these differences are important and work in Tony's favor.

~~~

Net positive for Tony. I welcome feedback. I grant that much of this is circumstantial and two different games cannot be compared with perfect congruency. We do our best.

inb4 JaY iS fAkInG eFfoRt FoR cReDiT

Uhhhhhhhh but if Tony is town and I can't vote for you then who do I vote for

Epi or sprityo

[nutella]

Idk man that's all pretty circumstantial

[nutella]

But I don't wanna tunnel him too hard

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Uhhhhhhhh but if Tony is town and I can't vote for you then who do I vote for

Epi or sprityo

Sounds like you could use a trustfall.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Idk man that's all pretty circumstantial

It is. And meta isn't the most reliable method in the world anyway.

I just don't feel right with a TSP lynch right now, and I'm struggling to reconcile it. I have suspicion and I think it's "logical", but my gut isn't agreeing with that logic.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

One issue I still have with [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] is what seems to me like a lack of progression in his reads. I am not sure any of them have truly budged since their genesis. Rej is the closest thing to a shift, and that's only barely a thing.

[nutella]

Uhhhhhhhh but if Tony is town and I can't vote for you then who do I vote for

Epi or sprityo

Sounds like you could use a trustfall.

No. I could use some sleep though.

[Dragomir]

1) Creature is not low-hanging fruit if numerous players read him as civilian.

2) sprityo can be bad anyway, whatever. Consistency is meaningless

Plink plink plink

It’s a neat analogy, but applying it here is nonsense. My reads in this mess are the opposite of Plinko. I am all over the place

...I must still misunderstand the plinko thing bc I thought that's basically what it meant and what jack is pointing out

It means all over the place in an unnatural sounding way I suppose.

Like when Jay shifts his reads on me, you, Mac, Creature, etc suddenly.

I'd make the argument that that's a good thing.

Why are unnatural sounding reads a good thing?

The sudden shifts in reads are.

[Dragomir]

I'm looking at TSP's play in Fallout (he was mafia and played well -- he was only lynched with behind-the-scenes Sloonei heroics) and comparing it to this one, exclusively for pre-Night 1 content.

Fallout

Persona 5

First look: general activity level by post rate.

Fallout - 28 posts in 48 hours - avg 0.59 posts per hour
Persona 5 - 99 posts in 78.5 hours - avg 1.26 posts per hour

His activity rate in this game is better than double that of Fallout. Cool.

Second look: response to suspicion/criticism

Fallout

Nothing to go on?!? I said like half a dozen things.
Analysis in less words than Mac: a lot of hedging. Too many words for no real scum accusation.
A general tell especially early is that mafia makes town reads and that town makes scum reads within this kinda context and this seems clear of that but clear in the sense that every analysis was “this seems suspicious I wonder what I think about that will you please tell me what I should think about it”

This was a response to his teammate sabie in that game. It's dramatic (see: "?!?"). That's actually about the only half-relevant bit from that game's Day 1. Tony had a very clean game.

Persona 5
Not dramatic
Not dramatic
Could be called dramatic, but I don't really feel that
Not dramatic

It's a small sample size. For whatever it's worth though, I think it's to Tony's credit.

Third look: reads

Fallout
Throws out blank town read on Epi
Generic prod of Long Con with vote
Generic prod of BWT with vote
Descriptive but also non-concrete suspicion of teammate sabie
Hops on Epi's suspicion of sabie / vague gripe with LC
Synopsis: Tony's reads were empty throughout the early game here except when he was talking about his teammate.

Persona 5
Avoidant of nutella/JJJ spat, gut town on both
Orange on Drago and Jack for heaping on early suspicion of me
GTH scum on Epi
Said Rej willfully misinterpreted him
More complete reads list
Reiterated suspicion of nutella and Dragomir
Accuses nutella of parroting Mac's sprityo suspicion
GTH reads -- only change I note from previous reads is Rej (slight town to scum)
Synopsis: Tony casts a considerably wider net in this early game. His reads are still a bit blank at times, but they aren't token prods. It isn't hard to find a concrete reason for most of it.

I think these differences are important and work in Tony's favor.

~~~

Net positive for Tony. I welcome feedback. I grant that much of this is circumstantial and two different games cannot be compared with perfect congruency. We do our best.

inb4 JaY iS fAkInG eFfoRt FoR cReDiT

This dude did not just go back and read two games to get a better understanding on one player. This is meta next level.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This dude did not just go back and read two games to get a better understanding on one player. This is meta next level.

I'll take this opportunity to soapbox another Strategy Talk that nobody cares about. This is not relevant to reads in this game, so people can skip if they don't care.

Meta reads are valuable. They are one of many tools in the toolbelt of a civilian, and civilians are best advised to use the tools in their toolbelts. However, there are two primary ways in which meta reads typically appear. I think one of them is much preferable to the other.

1. People develop general perceptions of each other across multiple games. They make general reads on the basis of those general perceptions.

2. People draw direct comparisons between games with respect to some specific prompt, idea, or investigation. They make specific reads on the basis of those comparisons.

2 > 1

1 can work sometimes, sure, but I think it's usually crap. We (the general We) just aren't very good at developing accurate perceptions of each other, even with a great deal of experience. We pigeon hole one another into relatively tiny behavioral spaces, and anything outside that space then becomes cause for concern. It's wrong often enough that it may not be any better than rolling the dice. I believe 1's best applications are exploratory -- they can help to develop a read, but if they drive a final vote then it's probably a bad idea. 2 provides a much more precise notion of what a behavior may look like under some specific circumstance, and it is informed in a substantive, visible way.

Okay soapbox over.

[Dragomir]

Hmm. I like that. Thanks for the soapbox.

[Rej]

just woke up damn

so hunching back to the first wagon:

Mac got voted by Epignosis, followed by Sprityo and JJJ

Here is the tinfoil to it:
Scum wants to get Sprityo mislynched based on Macs agression towards them and the weak townreads they received.
Epignosis is the wolf who votes his wolfmate Mac in order to see if Sprityo or others go alongside it. This only works because Mac received some townreads from "towncore"-side.
JJJ makes the wagon stronger which allows Epig the freedome to have another wagon going on and increase the chances of mislynches.
Because ideally for scum they can get Sprityo mislynched for a weak D0 or keep their options open to mislynch JJJ or potentially me, Drago, TSP.
This works also if Mac is town, but it works better when Mac is Epigs wolf partner, because Mac voted Sprityo and thus they kept the option open for mislynching Sprityo.

So every mislynch candidate here receives townreads from me for now, based on the wagon analysis. JJJ can also be a proactive town. Epignosis has the most suspicious wagon, that profits scum the most in the small setup. Just some deep insights, combined with the point that Epignosis has a hard time receiving town reads from others.

let me catch up, but my vote will be on Epignosis.

I am still at page 13, but I think not much will change from my POV.

[Rej]

While the crab succotash is a-going...

Mac, what's your take on Rej?

[Rej]

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

But I think my thoughts are original, so this is a conflict of interests my man.

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

That's how Rej plays the game.

Does it make him a civilian?

In a way, yes. I don't recall his scum play very well, only his town play and him being a politician fits the meta.

Again I am trying to be original, weren't I the first one here to go after Epignosis without pre conflict? xD but yeah as uninformed, I tend to interact with those that town/scum read me and observe those that are out of interaction.

With this and combined with my previous reads I feel like creature is town and not mislynch or lynch worthy. Guy tries to fiddle back into game.

[Rej]

TonyStarkPrime, could you gimme some quick gun-to-head reads on everyone?

-Creature
-Dragomir
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
-JaggedJimmyJay
-Long Con
-MacDougall
-nutella
-Rej
-sprityo

Since you asked
town
scum
sort out
sort out
sort out
sort out
town unless with Nutella
scum
scum
town

I have no current interest in reading the top three sort outs and LC has no posts

“But that’s not the point of GTH”
“Well I gave you three scum so I guess town town town but I legitimately have very few thoughts”

why did you scumread me again? xD

[Rej]

One issue I still have with @TonyStarkPrime is what seems to me like a lack of progression in his reads. I am not sure any of them have truly budged since their genesis. Rej is the closest thing to a shift, and that's only barely a thing.

Scum just timed the lynch on me very well, I was going to bed. Coincidence.

I go back to the theory that Epignosis is scum and trying to make me look bad should rather be an inside job by scum. Atleast I maintained to be discussion topic for some parts of the previous pages and that is good, because it shows that my previous posts had effect.

Glad I can vote Epignosis without it to account as OMGUS vote, all my suspiciouns since D0 can be proven in this single vote:

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Rej]

I will have some spare hour and some mins now left until I go a dinner with family.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I will have some spare hour and some mins now left until I go a dinner with family.

I’m not clear on precisely what makes Epignosis your suspect. You speak broadly of the game state and how a mafia Epi might apply in that game state. That doesn’t tell me much though about why “mafia Epi” is your focus instead of something else (like “town Epi” or “mafia JJJ”). Why is he specifically the one that you associate with this theoretical world of generating multiple possible wagons to work with? Why am I not?

[Rej]

I will have some spare hour and some mins now left until I go a dinner with family.

I’m not clear on precisely what makes Epignosis your suspect. You speak broadly of the game state and how a mafia Epi might apply in that game state. That doesn’t tell me much though about why “mafia Epi” is your focus instead of something else (like “town Epi” or “mafia JJJ”). Why is he specifically the one that you associate with this theoretical world of generating multiple possible wagons to work with? Why am I not?

others simply fit better from town standpoint. you made alot of efforts in the past pages, dragomir is interactive

I look a bit ahead and try to see how scum could abuse the D0 situation for their advantages and currently epignosis is fitting in the pattern
mafia epignosis is more possible imho, just gonna look out for the second one, if certain dynamics were reflected etc

[TonyStarkPrime]

This dude did not just go back and read two games to get a better understanding on one player. This is meta next level.

I'll take this opportunity to soapbox another Strategy Talk that nobody cares about. This is not relevant to reads in this game, so people can skip if they don't care.

Meta reads are valuable. They are one of many tools in the toolbelt of a civilian, and civilians are best advised to use the tools in their toolbelts. However, there are two primary ways in which meta reads typically appear. I think one of them is much preferable to the other.

1. People develop general perceptions of each other across multiple games. They make general reads on the basis of those general perceptions.

2. People draw direct comparisons between games with respect to some specific prompt, idea, or investigation. They make specific reads on the basis of those comparisons.

2 > 1

1 can work sometimes, sure, but I think it's usually crap. We (the general We) just aren't very good at developing accurate perceptions of each other, even with a great deal of experience. We pigeon hole one another into relatively tiny behavioral spaces, and anything outside that space then becomes cause for concern. It's wrong often enough that it may not be any better than rolling the dice. I believe 1's best applications are exploratory -- they can help to develop a read, but if they drive a final vote then it's probably a bad idea. 2 provides a much more precise notion of what a behavior may look like under some specific circumstance, and it is informed in a substantive, visible way.

Okay soapbox over.

I’m a big fan of strategy talks / theory sessions

[TonyStarkPrime]

TonyStarkPrime, could you gimme some quick gun-to-head reads on everyone?

-Creature
-Dragomir
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
-JaggedJimmyJay
-Long Con
-MacDougall
-nutella
-Rej
-sprityo

Since you asked
town
scum
sort out
sort out
sort out
sort out
town unless with Nutella
scum
scum
town

I have no current interest in reading the top three sort outs and LC has no posts

“But that’s not the point of GTH”
“Well I gave you three scum so I guess town town town but I legitimately have very few thoughts”

why did you scumread me again? xD

I figure it’s one of you or Drago (which Jack says is stupid and so maybe I should revisit that) and I didn’t like some of your replies yesterday and there was something else that I didn’t like that I don’t have the energy to go find right now

[TonyStarkPrime]

Epignosis also did not receive any civillian reads from my side, so the wagon on Mac is the most suspicious thing I have seen yet in this game lol.

This wasn’t it but I found this too:
This doesn’t fit when the next piece of your narrative is Epi/Mac w/w

I admit I might also be conflating you with Drago somewhat

[Rej]

Epignosis also did not receive any civillian reads from my side, so the wagon on Mac is the most suspicious thing I have seen yet in this game lol.

This wasn’t it but I found this too:
This doesn’t fit when the next piece of your narrative is Epi/Mac w/w

I admit I might also be conflating you with Drago somewhat

Why it doesn't fit? The wagon is the most suspicious thing I just said^^

btw going to family dinner now, will reply afterwards

all in all the current wagon on epi is deserved, so we can observe what happens next

[Dragomir]

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

But I think my thoughts are original, so this is a conflict of interests my man.

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

That's how Rej plays the game.

Does it make him a civilian?

In a way, yes. I don't recall his scum play very well, only his town play and him being a politician fits the meta.

Again I am trying to be original, weren't I the first one here to go after Epignosis without pre conflict? xD but yeah as uninformed, I tend to interact with those that town/scum read me and observe those that are out of interaction.

With this and combined with my previous reads I feel like creature is town and not mislynch or lynch worthy. Guy tries to fiddle back into game.

Not saying ya ain't original, just thought politician is a good fit for you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Football is coming on, and I am going to be watching that. Keep us moving gang. I'll marinate on matters as I scream at the Bengals.

[nutella]

just woke up damn

so hunching back to the first wagon:

Mac got voted by Epignosis, followed by Sprityo and JJJ

Here is the tinfoil to it:
Scum wants to get Sprityo mislynched based on Macs agression towards them and the weak townreads they received.
Epignosis is the wolf who votes his wolfmate Mac in order to see if Sprityo or others go alongside it. This only works because Mac received some townreads from "towncore"-side.
JJJ makes the wagon stronger which allows Epig the freedome to have another wagon going on and increase the chances of mislynches.
Because ideally for scum they can get Sprityo mislynched for a weak D0 or keep their options open to mislynch JJJ or potentially me, Drago, TSP.
This works also if Mac is town, but it works better when Mac is Epigs wolf partner, because Mac voted Sprityo and thus they kept the option open for mislynching Sprityo.

So every mislynch candidate here receives townreads from me for now, based on the wagon analysis. JJJ can also be a proactive town. Epignosis has the most suspicious wagon, that profits scum the most in the small setup. Just some deep insights, combined with the point that Epignosis has a hard time receiving town reads from others.

let me catch up, but my vote will be on Epignosis.

I am still at page 13, but I think not much will change from my POV.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t know what Nutella is trying to say there.

I’d vote either Tony or Epi over Rej. Easily.

Why do like 6 people suspect Jay but I’m the only one voting him?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’d vote either Tony or Epi over Rej. Easily.

Tell me more!

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don’t know what Nutella is trying to say there.

I’d vote either Tony or Epi over Rej. Easily.

Why do like 6 people suspect Jay but I’m the only one voting him?

Okay let's work this out:

ORDER OF VOTING:

Mac
Sprityo
Creature
Jack
Epi
JJJ
Rej
Drago
Nutella

maybe we can make a pseudo ranked choice voting system

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've a new analytic idea of sorts that I'd like to work through. If the Bengals continue to play like trash I might be able to start very soon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Reads progressions for Creature

on Dragomir: no read found
on Epignosis: happens to be town with me again | I guess I don't care about you either - vote | May or may not be scum
on Jack: Questions Tony for joke Jack vote | Agrees with me that Jack is bottom two read | Anybody else worried about Jack?
on JJJ: I think JJJ is town | Mad at JJJ for changing read
on Long Con: Seems likely he's town
on MacDougall: He can be mafia, or he has amnesia | Reiterated same gripe | Actually Mac is town with a fetish for lynching inactives
on nutella: no read found
on Rej: Some kind of question about Rej
on sprityo: Good chance he's an inactive townie
on Tony: This is town or am I being overconfident | Doesn't remember anything towny from Tony | Tony is putting more effort to be town read

Static reads: Jack, JJJ, Long Con, sprityo
Moving reads: Epignosis, MacDougall, Tony
Non-reads: Dragomir, nutella, Rej

I won't say what this means yet, because I don't know yet. I'll wait until I have basis for comparison with the rest.

[Dragomir]

Reads progressions for Creature

on Dragomir: no read found
on Epignosis: happens to be town with me again | I guess I don't care about you either - vote | May or may not be scum
on Jack: Questions Tony for joke Jack vote | Agrees with me that Jack is bottom two read | Anybody else worried about Jack?
on JJJ: I think JJJ is town | Mad at JJJ for changing read
on Long Con: Seems likely he's town
on MacDougall: He can be mafia, or he has amnesia | Reiterated same gripe | Actually Mac is town with a fetish for lynching inactives
on nutella: no read found
on Rej: Some kind of question about Rej
on sprityo: Good chance he's an inactive townie
on Tony: This is town or am I being overconfident | Doesn't remember anything towny from Tony | Tony is putting more effort to be town read

Static reads: Jack, JJJ, Long Con, sprityo
Moving reads: Epignosis, MacDougall, Tony
Non-reads: Dragomir, nutella, Rej

I won't say what this means yet, because I don't know yet. I'll wait until I have basis for comparison with the rest.

What's the point of making the analyze when you don't know what it means to you?

[nutella]

I don’t know what Nutella is trying to say there.

I’d vote either Tony or Epi over Rej. Easily.

Why do like 6 people suspect Jay but I’m the only one voting him?

Rej's tinfoil is crazy and totally out there and I can't imagine he'd be thinking on that many levels if he's not town. So I won't be voting for him.

I don't like that Epi and Jay are voting for him. I can't decide which of them is bad. Probably not both.

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine for now.

[nutella]

Wait what is this fresh bullshit from Jay now lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What's the point of making the analyze when you don't know what it means to you?

I will draw conclusions when I can see how players compare with one another. There's a purpose so just be patient.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wait what is this fresh bullshit from Jay now lol

I've added another tool to my belt. I'll see whether it's effective.

[nutella]

Maybe I should analyze this systematically (which would be a bit ironic) but I think that most of the times Jay has come up with some new analytical nonsense like this to waste our time with he's bad

[nutella]

What's the point of making the analyze when you don't know what it means to you?

I will draw conclusions when I can see how players compare with one another. There's a purpose so just be patient.

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[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Rej's tinfoil is crazy and totally out there and I can't imagine he'd be thinking on that many levels if he's not town.

Evenstar

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What's the point of making the analyze when you don't know what it means to you?

I will draw conclusions when I can see how players compare with one another. There's a purpose so just be patient.

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[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Y'all never learn

[nutella]

Rej's tinfoil is crazy and totally out there and I can't imagine he'd be thinking on that many levels if he's not town.

Evenstar

Rej's not Evenstar.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

People spend the whole game telling me I am faking my effort

I try something new that requires effort

FAKE EFFORT

JJJ cannot believe it *pikachu meme*

Perfectly reasonable, sensible, not silly at all.

[nutella]

Jay why tf are you still trying to defend the idea that Rej is suspicious

Are you a scrap of used saran wrap bc you're transparent garbage.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay why tf are you still trying to defend the idea that Rej is suspicious

Are you a scrap of used saran wrap bc you're transparent garbage.

You have absolutely no idea how to read me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I could lynch Epignosis.

[nutella]

People spend the whole game telling me I am faking my effort

I try something new that requires effort

FAKE EFFORT

JJJ cannot believe it *pikachu meme*

Perfectly reasonable, sensible, not silly at all.

The anecdotal evidence of my selective memory tells me it is a scumtell.