vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:07 pm
strongest v's after reading are nutella, epignosis, and evenstar.
sprityo, jack, elephant, iaafr, and creature are all probably v's. some of those don't feel great but that's how i felt while reading.
nanook and master radishes are the trailing edge of my town circle. dragomir is sorta towny too but i didn't really get that one quickly at all.
the townreads on michelle make absolutely no sense to me. they group of people townreading her might contain wolves purely because i think michelle hasn't really projected town or shown me massive differences to the limited amount of wolfgames i read from her.
juliets' posts just feel incredibly stiff to me. i don't know how to explain it, it just doesn't feel like any of the questions and observations she's making are real.
pawn's impact on the game feels super underwhelming at the moment.
vanity, I don't know what to make of your read of me. I don't understand "stiff". I always ask questions of people trying to get underneath their reads so I can assess their reasoning, and see if maybe my perspective on someone is off base. I think you just don't know my style.
Also on Michelle, she could be bad but the bad Michelle I played with did not come to the thread and engage or push people like she pushed Rej. Maybe you have more experience with her than me but for the time being I still read her as town.
I see through linki that you have posted more about me that I'll have to respond to separately.
Am I the only one who thinks '5' is not a high enough number in a game of 30 for someone to be spewed town, as per ongoing discussion? It seems perfectly reasonable for 5 vils to share a TR on someone 22 pages in.
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:34 am
speaking of which, @novaselinenever yo what's your deal? you voted the non player option and you have a single post that's just an emoji. where are your hot takes
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:07 pm
strongest v's after reading are nutella, epignosis, and evenstar.
sprityo, jack, elephant, iaafr, and creature are all probably v's. some of those don't feel great but that's how i felt while reading.
nanook and master radishes are the trailing edge of my town circle. dragomir is sorta towny too but i didn't really get that one quickly at all.
the townreads on michelle make absolutely no sense to me. they group of people townreading her might contain wolves purely because i think michelle hasn't really projected town or shown me massive differences to the limited amount of wolfgames i read from her.
juliets' posts just feel incredibly stiff to me. i don't know how to explain it, it just doesn't feel like any of the questions and observations she's making are real.
pawn's impact on the game feels super underwhelming at the moment.
vanity, I don't know what to make of your read of me. I don't understand "stiff". I always ask questions of people trying to get underneath their reads so I can assess their reasoning, and see if maybe my perspective on someone is off base. I think you just don't know my style.
Also on Michelle, she could be bad but the bad Michelle I played with did not come to the thread and engage or push people like she pushed Rej. Maybe you have more experience with her than me but for the time being I still read her as town.
I see through linki that you have posted more about me that I'll have to respond to separately.
i did consider a stylistic difference but not gonna abandon this suspicion i have, though for what its worth my d1 wolf reads are historically bad.
i've said this before, but there's just a conservative vibe i'm getting from your play at the moment that feels wolfy
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:07 pm
strongest v's after reading are nutella, epignosis, and evenstar.
sprityo, jack, elephant, iaafr, and creature are all probably v's. some of those don't feel great but that's how i felt while reading.
nanook and master radishes are the trailing edge of my town circle. dragomir is sorta towny too but i didn't really get that one quickly at all.
the townreads on michelle make absolutely no sense to me. they group of people townreading her might contain wolves purely because i think michelle hasn't really projected town or shown me massive differences to the limited amount of wolfgames i read from her.
juliets' posts just feel incredibly stiff to me. i don't know how to explain it, it just doesn't feel like any of the questions and observations she's making are real.
pawn's impact on the game feels super underwhelming at the moment.
Pawn's literally always like that D1.
Talk to me more about scum!Juliet and scum!Michelle.
i don't wolfread michelle at all. she'd be in the null category for me at the moment. i just don't think she should be townread is all.
i guess if i had to expand on my juliets read more... i think the way she's posting is just super conservative in a way that it feels like she's hiding something. i could probably quote specific things if you really want me to. the townreads on her that i've seen aren't really more than "oh, she made a an observation i made" which is fine i suppose. but there's nothing there in terms of juliets wim that makes me thinks she's a villager at all.
Yes vanity, I would like to see quotes, specific things. I'm hiding nothing.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm
Am I the only one who thinks '5' is not a high enough number in a game of 30 for someone to be spewed town, as per ongoing discussion? It seems perfectly reasonable for 5 vils to share a TR on someone 22 pages in.
I do think Creature is likely town, though.
It isn't high enough to be spewed town frankly, while I do independently TR him. Though I do disagree with the idea that all of us TRing him are town, not when a lot of this group are polarized as both high town and high scum depending on the players asked.
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:31 pm
Also, I think Evenstar and Mac are scum and that they are distancing from each other. :3
Hoho, I'd like to see an elaboration on this.
Because neither one of them are serious trying to solve me right now, nor are they allowing me to solve them. I feel like Mac in particular doesn't want to interact with me at all. He's SCAAAAARED~! Even though she denied it earlier, Evenstar tried to pocket me earlier.
What have you said that I was meant to interact with? I have hardly noticed you. Forgive me please.
I wish I was scum with her. I wouldn't be this frustrated.
Me trying to provoke and accuse you of not wanting to look responsible if one of your invitees gets lynched D1. All you said was that I was right. :[ There was no denial, no argument about why that's a good thing, etc.
I WANT YOU TO FITE ME, MAC!!! ;[
I didn't think that conversation was still going. Part of the point of this game is that we are hoping some of you stay. If one of you gets lynched d1 that'd be problematic. I don't understand what your problem is.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
smh look at someone thinking he may be alive D6. How do you know this sir?
Cause I’m fucking prescient.
Naw cause I’m gonna be too low energy for scum to bother killing tbh
For a second, I read prescient as "president", and, like, I didn't remember ever placing a vote to elect Nanook. o:
I elected myself. Pretty unfair process tbh
Let me help you get properly elected D1, Mr. president.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
To be fair, I've not seen your scum game. But I read you in G7 (you died as I subbed in) and watched you in in WC1, and you play this game similarly to how I do. Everything I see from you so far has been so pure, IMO.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
man can't wait till you roll wolf and feel what it's like to be a wolf in these threadstates
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm
Am I the only one who thinks '5' is not a high enough number in a game of 30 for someone to be spewed town, as per ongoing discussion? It seems perfectly reasonable for 5 vils to share a TR on someone 22 pages in.
I do think Creature is likely town, though.
It isn't high enough to be spewed town frankly, while I do independently TR him. Though I do disagree with the idea that all of us TRing him are town, not when a lot of this group are polarized as both high town and high scum depending on the players asked.
I guess it depends who is in the group TRing Creature, then. I've not kept track.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:14 pm
Keep playing games kids. When I am at my desktop you will receive judgement. Your day is coming.
Looking forwards to an actual rebuttal of my argument.
Okay so you're scum. Now all this bullshit makes sense.
Scum theatre.
I think Evenstar probably is scum but we are not partners. There is something about me that makes her lock on to me. She came at me early and hard in the WC as well. She thinks I play badly when I take pressure I think. So consider what you are doing is 100% feeding her bullshit. While I'm having to fend off her bullshit and yours and the other random pot shots I am useless. At least while I am phone posting. I'll juggle fine when I'm desktop.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:29 pm
don't d1 Juliets, she's Towny in my book and she may get spewed town by an actual scumflip down the line
This is where I am. I think she has the type of playstyle that the wolves will target for a mislynch.
this is like shading me without wanting to actually confront me
i know you're think i'm wolfy, if you think i'm a wolf then just say it. the fact that you're not engaging me at all is worrisome.
If Benson thinks like me, and I think they do, they aren't seeing you as the wolf who might push juliets later, they're just saying it is likely to happen if she's v
I'm not ok with vanity being consensus villager at this point. He's clean, yes; but almost too clean, if you know what I mean.
Call it gut-feels, but I'm giving him a soft FoS.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
To be fair, I've not seen your scum game. But I read you in G7 (you died as I subbed in) and watched you in in WC1, and you play this game similarly to how I do. Everything I see from you so far has been so pure, IMO.
How would you describe your wolf range, then?
my wolf range, huh...
while i haven't wolfed on forum before, and this game is another non-turbo village game from me, because randing wolf is impossible for some reason, but i'm the powerwolf type. a lot of people that know me from dm wouldn't give v reads on me this early, because they know i can give compelling thoughts on the game as a wolf.
i'd post around the same as either alignment. if i'm in the thread, i'm posting. that's all there really is to it. if you think i'm pure, cool. i don't think you're a wolf at the moment, so i'm comfortable with this.
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:31 pm
Also, I think Evenstar and Mac are scum and that they are distancing from each other. :3
Hoho, I'd like to see an elaboration on this.
Because neither one of them are serious trying to solve me right now, nor are they allowing me to solve them. I feel like Mac in particular doesn't want to interact with me at all. He's SCAAAAARED~! Even though she denied it earlier, Evenstar tried to pocket me earlier.
What have you said that I was meant to interact with? I have hardly noticed you. Forgive me please.
I wish I was scum with her. I wouldn't be this frustrated.
Me trying to provoke and accuse you of not wanting to look responsible if one of your invitees gets lynched D1. All you said was that I was right. :[ There was no denial, no argument about why that's a good thing, etc.
I WANT YOU TO FITE ME, MAC!!! ;[
I didn't think that conversation was still going. Part of the point of this game is that we are hoping some of you stay. If one of you gets lynched d1 that'd be problematic. I don't understand what your problem is.
If I left the site because I got lynched D1 I'm probably not someone you'd want staying anyway.
Don't worry about lynching a new member. We're all big kids here.
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:08 pm
Creature: Spewed Town
Wait when?
You have a ridiculous number of players TRing you on the surface of it compared to how many view your play. The idea behind it is that there is likely both scum hopping on this train TMIing you and that the town players TRing you are all looking at similar key playstyle sections and having definitive town reads. With this meaning something important based on difficulty in having solid reads this early and being a good sign for you.
I haven't townread Creature yet, though, so all those other townreads on him don't matter.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:29 pm
don't d1 Juliets, she's Towny in my book and she may get spewed town by an actual scumflip down the line
This is where I am. I think she has the type of playstyle that the wolves will target for a mislynch.
this is like shading me without wanting to actually confront me
i know you're think i'm wolfy, if you think i'm a wolf then just say it. the fact that you're not engaging me at all is worrisome.
If Benson thinks like me, and I think they do, they aren't seeing you as the wolf who might push juliets later, they're just saying it is likely to happen if she's v
Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:38 pm
I'm not ok with vanity being consensus villager at this point. He's clean, yes; but almost too clean, if you know what I mean.
Call it gut-feels, but I'm giving him a soft FoS.
what are you talking about? you've literally made posts that soft reference me in talking about wolfy behavior. are you not realizing this or what?
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
Well everyone says you have godly tone for a reason. So while I think that putting you as lock town is too far, too quick, I would put you as a town lean for a combo of it and genuinely good insights with interesting thought routes.
Like I have Evenstar and Hyena both telling me I am not addressing cases. Evenstar literally has only accused me of being frustrated which I've addressed and Hyena is upset with me for answering him and then not saying anything further? Both of them are whack but this is the same type of shit that Evenstar did in the WC. Just accusing people of things that aren't even a thing. Would lynch on sight. Self vote etc.
if you guys lynch me d1 im probably going to hardcore rage and never come but AND I'm probably not the type of player you want staying anyway so radishes has a point
also Benson just scumpinged me by having somewhat contradictory thoughts on sussing vanity, I feel like but idk he's still my towncircle oh no
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm
Am I the only one who thinks '5' is not a high enough number in a game of 30 for someone to be spewed town, as per ongoing discussion? It seems perfectly reasonable for 5 vils to share a TR on someone 22 pages in.
I do think Creature is likely town, though.
I don't think he's spewed town just because 5 people TR him. I wonder though if some of the TRs are more of a "don't want to lynch him day 1" because he's been mislynched early a lot as others were talking about earlier. I can't read him as town yet, he's null to me at this point.
I have been trying to post this for more than 5 minutes.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:42 pm
if you guys lynch me d1 im probably going to hardcore rage and never come but AND I'm probably not the type of player you want staying anyway so radishes has a point
also Benson just scumpinged me by having somewhat contradictory thoughts on sussing vanity, I feel like but idk he's still my towncircle oh no
can people like
stop worrying about being lynched
am i the only one that thinks that's a wolf trait? not that i think you're a wolf iaafr, this just isn't the first time i've seen this in this thread.
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm
i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm
Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.
That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?
i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
To be fair, I've not seen your scum game. But I read you in G7 (you died as I subbed in) and watched you in in WC1, and you play this game similarly to how I do. Everything I see from you so far has been so pure, IMO.
How would you describe your wolf range, then?
my wolf range, huh...
while i haven't wolfed on forum before, and this game is another non-turbo village game from me, because randing wolf is impossible for some reason, but i'm the powerwolf type. a lot of people that know me from dm wouldn't give v reads on me this early, because they know i can give compelling thoughts on the game as a wolf.
i'd post around the same as either alignment. if i'm in the thread, i'm posting. that's all there really is to it. if you think i'm pure, cool. i don't think you're a wolf at the moment, so i'm comfortable with this.
I'm willing to be wrong here, but if you're wolfing you're hitting all the right buttons to fool me. It's not even just tone or post quantity, it's something about how you word your thoughts that comes across as from a townie mindset.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:42 pm
if you guys lynch me d1 im probably going to hardcore rage and never come but AND I'm probably not the type of player you want staying anyway so radishes has a point
also Benson just scumpinged me by having somewhat contradictory thoughts on sussing vanity, I feel like but idk he's still my towncircle oh no
can people like
stop worrying about being lynched
am i the only one that thinks that's a wolf trait? not that i think you're a wolf iaafr, this just isn't the first time i've seen this in this thread.
you keep quoting me and missing my context
which I guess is half my fault for not quoting context
but it was a response to what radishes said to mac
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:31 pm
Also, I think Evenstar and Mac are scum and that they are distancing from each other. :3
Hoho, I'd like to see an elaboration on this.
Because neither one of them are serious trying to solve me right now, nor are they allowing me to solve them. I feel like Mac in particular doesn't want to interact with me at all. He's SCAAAAARED~! Even though she denied it earlier, Evenstar tried to pocket me earlier.
What have you said that I was meant to interact with? I have hardly noticed you. Forgive me please.
I wish I was scum with her. I wouldn't be this frustrated.
Me trying to provoke and accuse you of not wanting to look responsible if one of your invitees gets lynched D1. All you said was that I was right. :[ There was no denial, no argument about why that's a good thing, etc.
I WANT YOU TO FITE ME, MAC!!! ;[
I didn't think that conversation was still going. Part of the point of this game is that we are hoping some of you stay. If one of you gets lynched d1 that'd be problematic. I don't understand what your problem is.
<seriousHyena>
Meh. I'd stay even if I was lynched D1. :< I would like to think the others would, too, considering you guys are cool and all. I don't want THAT to have an impact on who gets lynched first though. I would hope that nobody took it personal if they get lynched first in this game.
</seriousHyena>