Inception [END]

[iaafr]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

Eva is evenstar

[TonyStarkPrime]

i see again the non read 'Elephant is elephant' care to explain TSP?

I am helping explain to Dom that Elephant is an elephant so that he becomes aware that elephant is an elephant because that’s information that is hard to gather.

[iaafr]

also juliets making a wallpost on tsp and apparently taking multiple posts seriously is legitimately scummy, so says my intuition

but this contradicts my earlier intuition that her apparent forthrightness and honest tone was Towny so I'm not gonna push it

[Hyena]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

Eva = Evenstar

And I'll answer for whoever I please. <3

[Pawn Lelouch]

Hi, Eva. <3

Hyena: ... I was going to back off my read here on the basis that the Epignosis thing was NAI if he's town, but it still must be said that his case on Spiny was utter bullshit. That kind of prank doesn't strike me as Town!Hyena. But his tone has been good otherwise, and he's doing the prodding thing he does when he's town.

Hyena: Can you explain what you were doing WRT Spiny?

So, the first time I mentioned Spiny, I was comparing her way of just mentioning me in her post to Dragomir's way of asking me about it directly. I liked the way Dragomir approached me about, and plus, I figured it might get Spiny's attention if I spoke up about it. However, I think I got sidetracked with something or someone else because I forgot I had prodded her until she spoke up again while I was around.

It was at that point I just figured I'd return to that earlier point to see what she'd say. However, I didn't realize she had said that she wanted to catch up first before commenting (yes, I didn't read the entire post, lol). I still wanted to prod her, though, so I just started being troll-y. That's where the "over explanation" and "fence sitting" stuff came from. As for saying she was townreading Pawn, I wasn't completely paying attention to her posts, but it felt like a good thing to say. :3

I already posted what I thought about the interaction earlier. Just to repeat, I did find it odd how eager she was to make me understand what was going on with her and what she was doing. I don't even know if she was scumreading me or not. If she was, I don't know why she didn't just tell me to shut up, lol.

Aight, cool, Hyena is town. Scum!Hyena would be having too much fun to explain the joke like this.

Pawn Lelouch, Epignosis: Put your votes elsewhere.

Already put my vote onto TSP to follow up with MR, Benson, and Juliets. Seemed more important than a wagon that was too small to be viable at the moment.

[iaafr]

also [person] is [person] is one of my pet scumtells so that's not great for tsp either

[TonyStarkPrime]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

Hello I exist to tunnel Dom around day 4 and I’ll tell you then that this is definitely NAI

[Dom]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

Eva is evenstar

There's no eva in that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

also [person] is [person] is one of my pet scumtells so that's not great for tsp either

I like it but in this case I think it’s very applicable because Elephant is literally a large pachyderm

[TonyStarkPrime]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

Eva is evenstar

There's no eva in that.

EVenstAr

[Hyena]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

Hello I exist to tunnel Dom around day 4 and I’ll tell you then that this is definitely NAI

Oh, okay. I won't steal the chance for you to tunnel him later if that's the case.

[iaafr]

also [person] is [person] is one of my pet scumtells so that's not great for tsp either

I like it but in this case I think it’s very applicable because Elephant is literally a large pachyderm

why would you like me saying you displayed one of my pet scumtells

[Jackofhearts2005]

Man, I thought the day ended in 45 minutes but it’s like 1485 minutes.

[juliets]

also juliets making a wallpost on tsp and apparently taking multiple posts seriously is legitimately scummy, so says my intuition

lol, at least I had the sense to ask if he was joking or not - also, I never put in that much work when I am scum.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hi, Eva. <3

Hyena: ... I was going to back off my read here on the basis that the Epignosis thing was NAI if he's town, but it still must be said that his case on Spiny was utter bullshit. That kind of prank doesn't strike me as Town!Hyena. But his tone has been good otherwise, and he's doing the prodding thing he does when he's town.

Hyena: Can you explain what you were doing WRT Spiny?

So, the first time I mentioned Spiny, I was comparing her way of just mentioning me in her post to Dragomir's way of asking me about it directly. I liked the way Dragomir approached me about, and plus, I figured it might get Spiny's attention if I spoke up about it. However, I think I got sidetracked with something or someone else because I forgot I had prodded her until she spoke up again while I was around.

It was at that point I just figured I'd return to that earlier point to see what she'd say. However, I didn't realize she had said that she wanted to catch up first before commenting (yes, I didn't read the entire post, lol). I still wanted to prod her, though, so I just started being troll-y. That's where the "over explanation" and "fence sitting" stuff came from. As for saying she was townreading Pawn, I wasn't completely paying attention to her posts, but it felt like a good thing to say. :3

I already posted what I thought about the interaction earlier. Just to repeat, I did find it odd how eager she was to make me understand what was going on with her and what she was doing. I don't even know if she was scumreading me or not. If she was, I don't know why she didn't just tell me to shut up, lol.

Aight, cool, Hyena is town. Scum!Hyena would be having too much fun to explain the joke like this.

Pawn Lelouch, Epignosis: Put your votes elsewhere.

Already put my vote onto TSP to follow up with MR, Benson, and Juliets. Seemed more important than a wagon that was too small to be viable at the moment.

Check again on the poll I’m not sure it went through [mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention]

[Creature]

lol I think I haven't read anything

[TonyStarkPrime]

also [person] is [person] is one of my pet scumtells so that's not great for tsp either

I like it but in this case I think it’s very applicable because Elephant is literally a large pachyderm

why would you like me saying you displayed one of my pet scumtells

I like the scumtell I’ll make a program and search syndicate games for it if I ever get around to it and see if it holds up empirically

[Evenstar]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

I'm Eva.

[Creature]

Are we fucked?

[Creature]

Just noticed Michelle has voted Evenstr

[Dom]

this diagram says I'm misreading this game badly somehow, 'cause either nutella is scum or my reads are shit

leaning towards my reads are shit

the fuck..... is this/???

[Creature]

Also, why did I become a drug dealer?

[Evenstar]

like eva, i understand that you find pawn to be right very often but...

why does pawn have to be right in this instance? and more importantly, why is pawn towny to you? and if pawn is a wolf, what does that mean for iaafr and mac's alignments?

... I guess a Pawn/Nutella/[Mac or Iaafr] scumteam could exist, but my gut is saying that's just straight-up not the case here. If only Pawn is scum... mmmmrrrrhhhh. Then Iaafr is the partner and they're pushing me to lynch Nutella? Nah, that's a conspiracy theory, I don't buy that Pawn could control me that well. Maybe Nutella's been pocketed? Sure doesn't feel like it. Mac/Pawn might be doing that and then TRing Iaafr because he's pushing a ML on nutella? Nah, that makes no sense, why push a mislynch on the person you've pocketed?

Maybe Iaafr/Pawn going after Elephant as the ML? The gimmick does make him hatable, I can see Pawn going for that. He wouldn't push Elephant directly, scum pawn tends to work through intermediaries... But Iaafr's push on Elephant is super halfassed. Did some other scum make an opportunity? Who started the wagon? 112. 112/Iaafr/Pawn? I guess I could see it, but I don't like that everybody in it is someone closer to null than scum. Plus that many associatives this early is probably just wrong.

I don't see whatever sinister plot you're trying to get me to consider here, Vanity.

hmm.

i feel like you... didn't answer the question.

but maybe it's me, not you.

Sorry, I got off-track considering Pawn!scum.

1: He doesn't have to be right.

2: He's (maybe) town because he actually posted a readlist. Scum pawn tends to try to slide under the radar.

3: I don't think him being scum would impact my reads much. The point was to check against someone good, not against someone town.

Haven't the only two games you've really seen me scum it up been Witches and Thaumiel? IE one where I was mainly focused on subtle QT control and got shot by the other scum team N1 and the other where I was trying to blatantly play jester? Legitimate question about your sample size + quality.

Honestly I still think Thaumiel was a scum game from you.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also, why did I become a drug dealer?

I’m one too apparently

[vanity.]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

that is a post. no further comment required.

[Creature]

I didn't agree to selling meth

[iaafr]

Are we fucked?

I'm just assuming we are until like day 3 then I'll try playing or something and seeing if this game is salvageable

also yea Michelle's still kinda eh but she's often like this as town so idk what to do with her either

this is the type of day 1 where I don't truly have a confident tunnel and my stronger scumreads are people I dont wanna wagon in case I'm wrong and I like them (112, tsp)

[Dom]

cheeky bunch y'all are.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Dom[/mention]

You should iso Drago. He was hitting on Eva and it turned out pretty funny.

#scumhunting

[iaafr]

yes the drago iso is funny. he is another potential scum I'm hesitant to wagon but probably top choice rn

[Pawn Lelouch]

Also, why did I become a drug dealer?

Hopes and aspirations of making good money, with sunk cost fallacy after you realize that those above you take the vast majority of your cut?

[iaafr]

hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

[Pawn Lelouch]

hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

Drago or TSP are probs my top two scum rn. MR, Creature, Vanity town. Also feeling pretty good about Epi and Texas rn.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Also, why did I become a drug dealer?

Hopes and aspirations of making good money, with sunk cost fallacy after you realize that those above you take the vast majority of your cut?

At least that was my experience with the job.

[iaafr]

hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

Drago or TSP are probs my top two scum rn. MR, Creature, Vanity town. Also feeling pretty good about Epi and Texas rn.

i already agree with all of these except creature (total null for me aside from thinking he might be spewed by nutella and/or jack) and texas (dont remember any content posts)

[Creature]

texas (dont remember any content posts)

He had some bunch of multiposts some page I don't remember commenting from page 1 onwards.

[iaafr]

i mean i didnt read like any of pages 11-20 or like 40-now and i dont intend to so not remembering posts is definitely supposed to be a me problem not saying it means anything for texas

[Pawn Lelouch]

hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

Drago or TSP are probs my top two scum rn. MR, Creature, Vanity town. Also feeling pretty good about Epi and Texas rn.

i already agree with all of these except creature (total null for me aside from thinking he might be spewed by nutella and/or jack) and texas (dont remember any content posts)

Texas had this spate of posts at night when basically no one else was around, with solid reads from my perspective and the way he went about them felt flippant in a town manner. So basically not much content but I love what he has.

Creature is just a combo of playstyle from games I've played with him + seen him in and pure gut. I wish I could back this one up more than that but it's what I got.

[Texas Cloverleaf]

hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

Drago or TSP are probs my top two scum rn. MR, Creature, Vanity town. Also feeling pretty good about Epi and Texas rn.

i already agree with all of these except creature (total null for me aside from thinking he might be spewed by nutella and/or jack) and texas (dont remember any content posts)

Hi content me

[juliets]

Creature, you voted for me out of the blue, at least I don't remember you calling out a suspicion of me. I know you have moved your vote but I'd like to know why you voted me.

I think I have stated multiple times I had some degree of suspicion on you. I also noticed some players also had you as a scumread.

Here are the times you mentioned me before you voted:

Oh well, juliets randed scum this game

@TonyStarkPrime do you have a question?

How many fishes can you fit in your car?

I guess that's what you see as stating multiple times you had a suspicion of me.

It really doesn't matter to anyone but me because people see you as lock town but your answer was misleading. I've already addressed the part about multiple players seeing me as scum.

[Epignosis]

Ten more pages?

[juliets]

I have hit the wall. I'll be more coherent in the morning but here are some thoughts running around in my head -

- I still lean town on Mac.
- I'm seeing a completely different Eva than the one I saw in WC1 though I only picked up starting mid day 2 in that game. I don't think one of she or Mac has to be scum in this game.
- I am leading town on Drago, I'm sure I can point out some reasons why but it will have to wait until tomorrow, though obviously I don't agree with his vote on Mac.
- Seems like one of 112 or Benson must be scum since they both say they accurately read each other and they both say the other is bad. I guess they could both be scum but I doubt it. Right now I have a clearer picture of 112 as town.
- Not understanding the votes for Epi except what hyena explained about his vote. Will look more closely at this in the morning.
- Reserving judgement on iaafr and hyena, I've been back and forth on both. Also reserving judgement on LC, he has fooled me SO many times but I know his weekends are usually taken up with family things and the food truck
- Reading sprityo as town after his last post.

I'm sure I will have other thoughts in the morning, there are just so many people to form opinions about.

Epi if you still need a favor just ping me in a post and I'll try to accommodate in the morning.

oh wow tons of linki - I'll have to read it tomorrow.

It's simple:

When I'm at work, I'm not going to be able to read, and there's no way I'm going to be able to keep up at this ungodly rate of nonsense.

If you would give me a simple summary- no need to be elaborate- and maybe link me to a few pertinent things each Day phase so that I can function and have some idea of a sound vote, that would go a long way for me.

No worries if you can't, but thank you much if you can.

Epi, I am so sorry but I was behind 7 pages when I got on this afternoon and then ended up ISOing someone that took me forever so I did not have time to do a summary. I will try to do better in the future.

[Epignosis]

Don't stress about it juliets.

[MacDougall]

I would wholeheartedly appreciate to not be mislynch bait 3 games in a row, but we'll burn that bridge when we get to it

I recall in hypnagogic you tend to get MLed because of low posting but other regulars here were saying your tone as town is actually really good.

Are you low posting this game? If not y do you think you’re getting heat?

oh trust me, you'll know when i get heated

@MacDougall please attest for me before i DO get heated

I'm not sure what you want here brohemian

[MacDougall]

@nutella ive got time, fuck it ill do it

i want a thank you please once im done making this comparison

You pocketing me bro?

"It was here that I townread Nutella and never looked back."

[MacDougall]

Caught up.

@nutella, you have twice now said I'm bad, both times in what I would call an off-handed way. Can you talk about that? What specifically are you seeing?

@Creature, you voted for me out of the blue, at least I don't remember you calling out a suspicion of me. I know you have moved your vote but I'd like to know why you voted me.

@TonyStarkPrime, you may have said why you voted Pawn but I evidently missed it. Can you explain?

I'm seeing too many people as town or null and not enough scum. I'm going to do some ISOs and see if I can remedy that.

[MacDougall]

vanity lock town

You're late to the game on this one.

hmmm

radish

are you scum

No.

For the crowd: when did this became a viable scumhunting technique?

Preach!

[MacDougall]

I like this dom guy btw, I’m sorry for RNG voting you.

[MacDougall]

dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

Nook liking him makes all the sense in the world

[MacDougall]

I just caught up like 15 pages and made some posts while doing so and nobody else posted in that time. Why do y'all hate me?