[mention]Elephant[/mention]
[mention]juliets[/mention]
here is what i thought:
Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:41 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:15 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:50 am
Read of Michelle - lean town.
I like the way Michelle asks lots of questions and offers opinions whenever she's on. There is not much fluff in her ISO, barely any as a matter of fact. She sticks to business. I like her pushes on Rej who has not had much to say so far. I think I mentioned I just played a game with Michelle where we both were scum and she wasn't present in the thread like she has been here. There is one post of hers that I didn't agree with so I need to go back and re-look at the situation. It was when Eva made a post and Michelle called it juicy in a scum way. I'll take another look a little later.
finished work and i came here. I would like your oppinion on that post. It pinged me enough to call it juicy, and this is not my usual take for a post.
I think your read may help me to reconsider if you have a different oppinion.
I didn't receive scum vibes from you so i trust you with this read
The post in question seems to be this one:
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:35 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:00 pm
like eva, i understand that you find pawn to be right very often but...
why does pawn have to be right in this instance? and more importantly, why is pawn towny to you? and if pawn is a wolf, what does that mean for iaafr and mac's alignments?
... I
guess a Pawn/Nutella/[Mac or Iaafr] scumteam could exist, but my gut is saying that's just straight-up not the case here. If only Pawn is scum... mmmmrrrrhhhh. Then Iaafr is the partner and they're pushing me to lynch Nutella? Nah, that's a conspiracy theory, I don't buy that Pawn could control me that well. Maybe Nutella's been pocketed? Sure doesn't feel like it. Mac/Pawn might be doing that and then TRing Iaafr because he's pushing a ML on nutella? Nah, that makes no sense, why push a mislynch on the person you've pocketed?
Maybe Iaafr/Pawn going after Elephant as the ML? The gimmick does make him hatable, I can see Pawn going for that. He wouldn't push Elephant directly, scum pawn tends to work through intermediaries... But Iaafr's push on Elephant is super halfassed. Did some other scum make an opportunity? Who started the wagon? 112. 112/Iaafr/Pawn? I guess I could see it, but I don't like that everybody in it is someone closer to null than scum. Plus that many associatives this early is probably just wrong.
I don't see whatever sinister plot you're trying to get me to consider here, Vanity.
My thought at this post and seeing it so full of implication was that is wolfish. Annalising the players by associations in day one is a thing that may give wrong connections between players.
As villager i always reffuse any link with other players and say it itt because not just once i was mislynched because of scum motivated associated reads.
This post is confusing and i think only scum makes a complicate post to generate wrong reads.
if Eve is scum (like i see her after this post) then she puts now a base for further mislynches from so many associations she makes.
Also i asked Vanity why is he making associative reads and he told me Eve started, and she finished this post addresing to Vanity that he is the one who put her invent a sinister plot. A totally mess for me.
i am a simple player and i think town needs clean sentences not this type of reasoning who can go either way.
Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:41 am
I hadn't seen this post yet, because it occurred after I left last night. I am surprised to read my name. iaafr did vote me, but had no push attached to it. I do remember finding my name in red in Evenstar's diagram of Pawn Lelouch's reads, and wondering, because to my recollection Pawn Lelouch has never pushed me. Evenstar read me as zero/town lean at the time, I believe, so that is one of the details where her reads differ from Pawn's. Since she sees reads differences as scum-motivated, her theorizing on this seems consistent.
In the first paragraph, Evenstar is running a stream of consciousness through the various options. It seems natural and in-character for Evenstar, though I would not want to read her alignment off it.
What did you feel was "juicy" about this post? I understand if you want to await Juliet's response, but since we are in the same group, I thought it a good idea to engage you over this.