All My Circuits the Mafia Game [GAME OVER]

[Creature]

Hello all! Looks like we're off to great start already.

Oh, sabie randed scum

I think I scumread sabie from this

[novaselinenever]

And now I’m home aloneish

In other words my name is Nanook and I’m gonna lead us to victory, ask me anything

Can you stop voting me? Pretty please

Gimme a reason to

I'm town, I promise

Yeah I totally believe you

Pinky Promise

[tedxtr]

Nanook hasn’t done anything and we have no reason to keep him alive (sorry bud, it’s just a matter of PoE)

So it’s sabie > nanook and if that doesn’t end then we’re dealing with a deepwolf. Or enrique is scum. Naaah let’s go with a deepwolf.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

[tedxtr]

From my PoV, not doing anything pertains to you not being open to us about your thought process, which, again, I’m at no fault for. I’m not going to force reads out of you if you don’t want to give them, but I’m not gonna stop lynches on you either. Don’t take it personally, but you have to admit, you aren’t conveying a lot of thoughts into this thread.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I would encourage you to take a glance at a scum game of mine. Giving a lot of reads and thoughts is something I typically do as scum more than as town.

I try to only give higher confidence reads as town, especially when I’m playing with people I don’t know that well

[tedxtr]

In the case Creature’s still Bender, you should ask him for his reads tomorrow.

[tedxtr]

I would encourage you to take a glance at a scum game of mine. Giving a lot of reads and thoughts is something I typically do as scum more than as town.

I try to only give higher confidence reads as town, especially when I’m playing with people I don’t know that well

I don’t trust meta, at least not when it’s presented this way.

I don’t care for past games, I care what you think about this game.

[novaselinenever]

Say Sabie is mafia, who's the third?

Nanook. We’re keeping it simple. Dom was in complete antispew.

Everyone else is much townier to even consider chasing deep wolves. Lynch people that can’t project town, then move to the real deal. If it’s not the ones that we couldn’t identify as town, we move to the ones that we town read but for shallow reasoning. And so on.

It's not that last ditch effort by Dom to case him that reflects well, it's these ones

Still view the Tex/Nanook/Rej thing as NAI I think it's just culture clash going on and based around people with different playstyles. Especially since none are super used to TS culture.

Like I said above I'm not really reading it that much, still think there could be mafia among the people arguing what's basically semantics, but Tex seems the most genuine here.

Really not liking Nanook's post about how he'd act or his amendment to it, but besides that he hasn't done anything scummy in my mind.

Uh

Why?

I have proof on this site to back it up lol

I either save my partner or hard bus, I don’t intentionally fence ride.

yucky !

Yeah meta is trashy!

*here is the meta i would like to present you with about myself that totally absolves me*

Relying on your own meta instead of baddie hunting is a bad look.
Do better or get a noose.

It's in the same vein of accusations that he rolled with on et, and he has the same in your face attitude. This was after the et flip and him spending the first 2 day phases on that read, here it feels like he sees an opening to pick up a new scum read and milk it to navigate the game. Rather than like distancing himself from a teammate.

[novaselinenever]

I fucking hate that Nanook's emoji

[sabie12]

So ted you're saying I have tmi but then also implying I'm not working hard enough to solve anything. You only said I have tmi after I questioned you going so hard after me. I would not have been dumb enough to get dom lynched if we had been teammates. You complain that I'm defending myself too much yet then also complain that I don't respond to questions enough. I just feel bad you're wasting so much time and effort making a bs case on me. Like copy pasting everything I say and then saying scum after it. Awesome detective work there...
If I actually was upset you would know. You yourself have said this game has been hard to figure out yet you're accusing me because I also can't figure it out for sure. I have no idea who the remaining baddies are. I only know that it isn't me and you're wasting time with all this.

[tedxtr]

Not “for sure”. There’s no attempt at figuring it out and that’s it.

You don’t need to catch scum to be town, the process which you go through to get there is what makes you town.

But for scum they realize they can get close to cleared by doing two things : 1) lynch a team mate and 2) save a town from death. You’re arguing from perspective number 1.

You don’t need to lynch scum to be town sabie. I didn’t even say that.

I’m not sure why the first phrase is formed as if it’s a contradiction, it’s actually two things that come together.

You spend way too much time on answering questions and much less time asking them. Yes. That’s what I’m implying.

And “you only said i have tmi after you questioned me” is plain straw manning. I never made such a claim.

I also don’t see why you think lynching Dom is dumb there. It got you all the way to Day 5

Please don’t take this as an invitation to debate. You spending the next 20 what hours to convince me you’re not scum are only going to make me advocate for your lynch further. If you’re town, talk to us. Show us your thought process and I’ll reconsider. For now, I’m as confident as I was on the Dom lynch.

[tedxtr]

Ask people questions, here, you can ask Nanook about his town reads and try and sort him. That would be very much productive for everyone.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I would encourage you to take a glance at a scum game of mine. Giving a lot of reads and thoughts is something I typically do as scum more than as town.

I try to only give higher confidence reads as town, especially when I’m playing with people I don’t know that well

I don’t trust meta, at least not when it’s presented this way.

I don’t care for past games, I care what you think about this game.

“I don’t care how you play cause I’d rather stick my head in the sand and pretend that what you’re doing is AI”

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I fucking hate that Nanook's emoji

[Epignosis]

I fucking hate that Nanook's emoji

It means women should be more like stick figures.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I can use instead

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh apparently I can’t lolol

[Epignosis]

I can use instead

That means women should point to the stuff on the top shelf they can't reach.

[Rej]

Rej, top 3 scum, go

sabie, enrique, nanook

[Sloonei]

For clarification, juliets will be handling the host post to start Day 5 since I'll be busy. I believe she intends to start it at 5 PM EST, which would be 1 hour later than it was today.

[novaselinenever]

That looks like a game-ending indie to me, good riddance

[Epignosis]

That looks like a game-ending indie to me, good riddance

Agreed. Nice work.

[Epignosis]

Going to go this far:

I think Enrique is a civilian.

[tedxtr]

Obligatory remember to lynch sabie daily post until I die.

This is Day 1.

[juliets]

Just a reminder to send me your night actions in addition to Sloonei. I'll post as close to 5 pm EST as I can.

[Sloonei]

Day 4

[sabie12]

Okay so here's my thought. Spirityo is bad. He didn't vote in the initial polls and was not very active up until more recently especially after dom died. Now that doms gone he's gotta be more involved. He initially wasnt voting to stay under the radar and evade suspicions on him. He also started the suspicion on me because I had voted in the polls and he didn't. He made it a point to try asking people if they thought him not voting made him look bad but no one really responded to that except for me. And also the last thing mac said before he was killed off was basically calling spirityo out on his bs.

Note to ted didnt mean to get into an argument with you I just legit wasn't super available to have a full on conversation yesterday. I stepped away from it for a bit because it's a game and I don't want anyone to actually be angry at anything. Supposed to have fun with it. I am town and I will try to be helpful but in case I get killed off this is what my thoughts are.

[tedxtr]

Lol, don't worry I understood, all's good. I hope I didn't make the game less enjoyable by pushing for your lynch without you being able to defend yourself against anything, so I will make a case and you can pick on it whenever you feel like. I just don't really like talking with my scum reads, it makes me doubt my read tremendously and for no reason. Hope nobody takes that as a push back or whatever. If you want me to change my mind on you, then the best thing you can do is to interact with other people and keep asking questions and I'll nullify my read depending on whether I think you're townier.

I'm sorry but that's just what works for me.

Spoiler: show

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scum

If epi would be able to elaborate on his case on nova I'm willing to listen.

I've already explained this, feel free to pick it apart.
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scum

From what I've seen in ISOs I was not a fan of therealet. He responds with short responses and emojis without giving much thought or anything and then got very defensive.

[VOTE: therealet] aubergine

That reads to me as a fairly shallow reasoning for your progression on ET. I don't think that's an actual thought you'd have, moreso, your progression is just too sudden on him. Scum are a lot more typical to read ISOs on one person and talking about them then to actually work the thread out and sense scum from there. I don't think that reasoning was *actually* worthy enough of a vote. "he responds with short responses and emojis" really? that's a scum read? why not scum read nanook then? hm. wonder. or mac. or TSP. or sig. or creature. see what i mean? it's basically telling me you have an agenda. Those are contrived reasons that you thought of during watching his ISO and thinking what would look good as an accusation. You didn't have that walk inside your head that civvies do.

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scum

Rej I’m giving you a chance to take sabie’s place in my town leans, she’s in scum commentator mode and it rustles my jimmies

Sabie please be townier I have concerns with a big C

So you don't like that I agree with you on dom or what?

I actually don't remember why I felt like this post was scum worthy but I guess it's because the question is still framed in such a way that it makes you defensive. I haven't claimed it's because you have or have not voted Dom. So it feels like you're trying to pocket me there, although this might be a stretch, mainly because I selected this as a scum tell and now I have to say something on it.


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scum

Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

You keep coming back to reads but this absolutely has nothing to do with the current game state and it's a thrown-out-the-window read to make you look like you're actually scum hunting, but there's no lead up to this either. Townies do things like this some times, but this post lacks a certain feeling to it. It doesn't feel like you're raising awareness on a player and then wanting to figure him out, you just call it out to make us aware of how bad Rej is looking. I reckon a town would keep coming back to this read after such an affirmation, but you just never did. Which makes me think it was more to make us start suspecting Rej (in the context, i'm like 70% sure she said this after I've kept pushing Rej, but please check and don't follow this if it's not the case. If it is, though, it's really bad)
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scum

Inb4 the team is something like sabie12, Nova and Dom

I gotta flip rej first though

Why are you including me in this?

Again, defensive question. It's not the defensiveness I'm reading scummy, it's the non-existent world building that goes after that question. She just asks questions to clear herself, not to figure people out. If she was trying to figure me out, she would've kept pushing on me after this. But she doesn't have that mentality overall, she just wants us to lose her track. Doesn't matter what alignment I am to her, because she already knows it.
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someone's pissed i'm getting on the right track

Hot take, if sig and nova are both town, which I can kind of sense, then sabie should get auto-lynched.

Why do all of a sudden sense they're both town when you accused both of them?

This, again, doesn't serve towards anything. The question is actually good though, but she just doesn't go through the motions. It's like a little bit of shade and that's it, never coming back to it. It's like throwing jabs in a box match. Quick jabs. This is actually a good question from her, that she does nothing with. You'd sense an agenda here, but you're not going through the motions. It's like you're focused on shady stuff so you can focus on them and show them to other people, but you're not willing to figure out what people's motivations are. This question is also framed pretty weirdly, more in an accusatory way than anything. If she was trying to figure ME out based on my full 180, it would've been something like "Why are you town reading them now?". This post ignores that logical progression on me and is just pointing out a shady thing. It's not formed in a way to provide an ongoing conversation in which she sorts me, it's almost done to make me doubt my read and to shade me for my sudden changes.

Town could do that, but if they feel like something like this happened, they're more willing to have all kinds of scenarios in their heads and they would bury me with questions. Kind of like what epi had in mind, me being the toad, etc etc. Sabie, although having plenty spec knowledge, didn't even think about that.
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TL;DR She's not going through the motions of discovering people's alignments, because she already knows them. Her questions are almost all formed in a way that is defending herself, while unconsciously exposing the fact that everyone who's attacking her is town and she assumes her top priority is to fend us off, whereas a town would also question their attacker. Sabie only asks defensive questions when being accused of something and doesn't take the extra step of figuring out her attackers. Because she knows we have all the right to attack her, she knows we're town, and she knows she needs to gain our trust.

She doesn't think like a town "Why's this motherfucker attacking me? I've been town this whole game"

She thinks like this "Shit, I'm being pushed by town. What do I do know? I need to tip them off"

[sprityo]

Lol, don't worry I understood, all's good. I hope I didn't make the game less enjoyable by pushing for your lynch without you being able to defend yourself against anything, so I will make a case and you can pick on it whenever you feel like. I just don't really like talking with my scum reads, it makes me doubt my read tremendously and for no reason. Hope nobody takes that as a push back or whatever. If you want me to change my mind on you, then the best thing you can do is to interact with other people and keep asking questions and I'll nullify my read depending on whether I think you're townier.

I'm sorry but that's just what works for me.

Spoiler: show

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scum

If epi would be able to elaborate on his case on nova I'm willing to listen.

I've already explained this, feel free to pick it apart.
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scum

From what I've seen in ISOs I was not a fan of therealet. He responds with short responses and emojis without giving much thought or anything and then got very defensive.

[VOTE: therealet] aubergine

That reads to me as a fairly shallow reasoning for your progression on ET. I don't think that's an actual thought you'd have, moreso, your progression is just too sudden on him. Scum are a lot more typical to read ISOs on one person and talking about them then to actually work the thread out and sense scum from there. I don't think that reasoning was *actually* worthy enough of a vote. "he responds with short responses and emojis" really? that's a scum read? why not scum read nanook then? hm. wonder. or mac. or TSP. or sig. or creature. see what i mean? it's basically telling me you have an agenda. Those are contrived reasons that you thought of during watching his ISO and thinking what would look good as an accusation. You didn't have that walk inside your head that civvies do.

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scum

Rej I’m giving you a chance to take sabie’s place in my town leans, she’s in scum commentator mode and it rustles my jimmies

Sabie please be townier I have concerns with a big C

So you don't like that I agree with you on dom or what?

I actually don't remember why I felt like this post was scum worthy but I guess it's because the question is still framed in such a way that it makes you defensive. I haven't claimed it's because you have or have not voted Dom. So it feels like you're trying to pocket me there, although this might be a stretch, mainly because I selected this as a scum tell and now I have to say something on it.


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scum

Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

You keep coming back to reads but this absolutely has nothing to do with the current game state and it's a thrown-out-the-window read to make you look like you're actually scum hunting, but there's no lead up to this either. Townies do things like this some times, but this post lacks a certain feeling to it. It doesn't feel like you're raising awareness on a player and then wanting to figure him out, you just call it out to make us aware of how bad Rej is looking. I reckon a town would keep coming back to this read after such an affirmation, but you just never did. Which makes me think it was more to make us start suspecting Rej (in the context, i'm like 70% sure she said this after I've kept pushing Rej, but please check and don't follow this if it's not the case. If it is, though, it's really bad)
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scum

Inb4 the team is something like sabie12, Nova and Dom

I gotta flip rej first though

Why are you including me in this?

Again, defensive question. It's not the defensiveness I'm reading scummy, it's the non-existent world building that goes after that question. She just asks questions to clear herself, not to figure people out. If she was trying to figure me out, she would've kept pushing on me after this. But she doesn't have that mentality overall, she just wants us to lose her track. Doesn't matter what alignment I am to her, because she already knows it.
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someone's pissed i'm getting on the right track

Hot take, if sig and nova are both town, which I can kind of sense, then sabie should get auto-lynched.

Why do all of a sudden sense they're both town when you accused both of them?

This, again, doesn't serve towards anything. The question is actually good though, but she just doesn't go through the motions. It's like a little bit of shade and that's it, never coming back to it. It's like throwing jabs in a box match. Quick jabs. This is actually a good question from her, that she does nothing with. You'd sense an agenda here, but you're not going through the motions. It's like you're focused on shady stuff so you can focus on them and show them to other people, but you're not willing to figure out what people's motivations are. This question is also framed pretty weirdly, more in an accusatory way than anything. If she was trying to figure ME out based on my full 180, it would've been something like "Why are you town reading them now?". This post ignores that logical progression on me and is just pointing out a shady thing. It's not formed in a way to provide an ongoing conversation in which she sorts me, it's almost done to make me doubt my read and to shade me for my sudden changes.

Town could do that, but if they feel like something like this happened, they're more willing to have all kinds of scenarios in their heads and they would bury me with questions. Kind of like what epi had in mind, me being the toad, etc etc. Sabie, although having plenty spec knowledge, didn't even think about that.
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TL;DR She's not going through the motions of discovering people's alignments, because she already knows them. Her questions are almost all formed in a way that is defending herself, while unconsciously exposing the fact that everyone who's attacking her is town and she assumes her top priority is to fend us off, whereas a town would also question their attacker. Sabie only asks defensive questions when being accused of something and doesn't take the extra step of figuring out her attackers. Because she knows we have all the right to attack her, she knows we're town, and she knows she needs to gain our trust.

She doesn't think like a town "Why's this motherfucker attacking me? I've been town this whole game"

She thinks like this "Shit, I'm being pushed by town. What do I do know? I need to tip them off"

you.... youre a scary man. I look forward to more games with you

[tedxtr]

One more quick thing, if she really is scum like I think she is, look for defensive questions and you can clear people fairly easily just based off that. See who pushed her buttons a bit and if she responds like she did in my case, I’d call that a town, pending the situation, of course.

Thanks sprit, I really hope she’s scum or otherwise this is gonna make me look really dumb in hindsight lmao. Maybe we can get another game in together some time :P

It is what it is

[juliets]

Tedexter has been killed. He was the Boxy Robot, civilian spy.
It is Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch somebody. The poll will be up soon.

[juliets]

Does the poll look right to everyone? I don't do it often.

[Creature]

Hey sabie

[Creature]

Who you thinking of right now?

[sabie12]

Who you thinking of right now?

I still think spirityo is bad. Almost sounded like he was saying goodbye to ted in that last post.


What are your thoughts creature?


For real though RIP ted he did a good job even though he's wrong about me.

[Creature]

Who you thinking of right now?

I still think spirityo is bad. Almost sounded like he was saying goodbye to ted in that last post.


What are your thoughts creature?

I have a problem with sprityo too, but mostly because I keep forgetting he's in the game

[Creature]

Nanook seems to be here yet not doing anything?

[Creature]

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

Is it bad I don't know who you want to kill?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

Is it bad I don't know who you want to kill?

It’s called an ISO, I suggest you try reading it sometime.

[sabie12]

Who you thinking of right now?

I still think spirityo is bad. Almost sounded like he was saying goodbye to ted in that last post.


What are your thoughts creature?

I have a problem with sprityo too, but mostly because I keep forgetting he's in the game

Yeah idk I feel like he's kinda just lurking around and only had to be active after dom died.

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

Is it bad I don't know who you want to kill?

Is that sketchy or just a weird way of wording things?

[Creature]

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

Is it bad I don't know who you want to kill?

It’s called an ISO, I suggest you try reading it sometime.

Let's see if it will bring results then

[Creature]

I also think creature is scum for D1 vote and other reasons, but they’re fairly nebulous tbh.

You don’t think Creature is Bender?

I think you can guess the answer to that

nebulous
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adjective
2.
(of a concept) vague or ill-defined.

ah

I don’t think that creature is bender because he’s scum

The reasons I think that creature is scum are nebulous and ill-defined

Oh lol

[Creature]

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

I’m trying to take your side sig stop pushing me away bb

Also lol

[Creature]

Feels like you've been only pushing town actually

[Creature]

Dom wagon D3 looks all town tbh

[Creature]

Therealet wagon D2 - NANOOK, Epi, sig, Dom, Rej, sabie

Dom wagon D3 - Creature, Ted, Mac, sabie, sig

sig wagon D4 - nova, sabie, Ted, Creature, Epi, Rej

[Creature]

Dom wagon D3 looks all town tbh

Oops, sig is actually third party, but I'm considering him unaligned anyway

[Creature]

Therealet wagon D2 - NANOOK, Epi, sig, Dom, Rej, sabie

Dom wagon D3 - Creature, Ted, Mac, sabie, sig

sig wagon D4 - nova, sabie, Ted, Creature, Epi, Rej

Still think there's one more scum in therealet wagon

[Creature]

What are the chances there's at least one scum in sig wagon?