Assassin's Creed Mafia (OVER!)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Chances are then Speed is Desmond and also scum, correct?
Ooh cool idea: Desmond has the alternate power (can kill lucy on even nights) but then it’s only a cool mechanic if both are town and then someone just ends up dead

[nutella]

Confirm existence of.

At this point I think you're going to need to expand.

I’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).

but if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.

trust me i did too much research into this.

Yes and I maintain this didn’t happen.

Why?

1) Mac thinks he’s getting killed night 1, he made sure of it. He used the power that night. How do we know? Largely we don’t, but it’s agreed that that makes more sense. It’s quite possible that Epi targeted him with an additional kill that night and failed, or just tried to block him. Epi also needs a reason to lie about his night 1 action. Maybe it’s so he can get counterclaimed by his teammate to secure an easy win, maybe it’s because he had more nefarious purposes. If Mac didn’t use the power it’s agreed he got very paranoid night 2 after being in BTSC with Ted for a day, which is almost confirmed. Then scum would have had to get lucky enough to target him with a pirate ship kill — and on current proportions it’s unlikely they have more than one— and he would have had to turned on someone in his towncore for no real reason.

Okay I'm lost.

[speedchuck]

Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.

linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.

linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.

I do have a cop

[Funnygurl555]

Chances are then Speed is Desmond and also scum, correct?
Ooh cool idea: Desmond has the alternate power (can kill lucy on even nights) but then it’s only a cool mechanic if both are town and then someone just ends up dead

shouldn't you be dead then?

[speedchuck]

Oh Tony can kill desmond specifically?

I'm not desmond.

[TonyStarkPrime]

What if he wasn't confident enough in any of his reads to justify killing someone?

That should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).

[speedchuck]

Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.

linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.

I do have a cop

Killing people isn't a cop.

[nutella]

Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.

linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.

...is that all you meant about him being a liar

I am disappointed

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.

linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.

Epignosis already told us he is a mafioso.

[nutella]

Chances are then Speed is Desmond and also scum, correct?
Ooh cool idea: Desmond has the alternate power (can kill lucy on even nights) but then it’s only a cool mechanic if both are town and then someone just ends up dead

wat

[speedchuck]

What if he wasn't confident enough in any of his reads to justify killing someone?

That should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).

That's asinine. A vig is a vig, a cop is a cop. Don't 'certain point of view' me.

[Sloonei]

What if he wasn't confident enough in any of his reads to justify killing someone?

That should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).

what

[nutella]

What if he wasn't confident enough in any of his reads to justify killing someone?

That should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).

I STRONGLY disagree with that reductive definition for reasons that should be clear in this situation.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I need to make longer posts the short ones cause too many whats

[speedchuck]

I'm not counter-claiming, I'm calling Tony a liar based on his own posts.

Letting scum with a free extra kill live right now will cost the game.

[nutella]

This is so ridiculous holy shit

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] please just tell us if you are mafia so we all can stop feeling like idiots

[ts account]

What does linki: mean, by the way? I have seen it a lot and I can not imagine what it could represent.

[nutella]

I'm not counter-claiming, I'm calling Tony a liar based on his own posts.

Letting scum with a free extra kill live right now will cost the game.

Yeah, but if we jump to the wrong conclusion about him and he's town, lynching him will also cost the game. We can't be too careful about this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

What does linki: mean, by the way? I have seen it a lot and I can not imagine what it could represent.

In response to the people who posted in between when I started writing and when I hit submit

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm not counter-claiming, I'm calling Tony a liar based on his own posts.

Letting scum with a free extra kill live right now will cost the game.

So will lynching a civilian.

[nutella]

What does linki: mean, by the way? I have seen it a lot and I can not imagine what it could represent.

It's a silly term for when new posts pop up while you're writing your post and you are reacting to those posts in the preview function. The original term was "linkitis" and it was named after a user on Lostpedia named Link.

[Funnygurl555]

I need to make longer posts the short ones cause too many whats

when i was 13 i was watching "what what in the butt" in my room. my dad walked in and thought i was watching porn then. i had to explain to him it was a funny music video, but i don't know if he ever believed me

[TonyStarkPrime]

This is so ridiculous holy shit

@speedchuck @TonyStarkPrime please just tell us if you are mafia so we all can stop feeling like idiots

I am not.
I encourage you to find a plausible world where I’m scum.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Remember that time ted died on Night 2

[speedchuck]

I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.

Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.

Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?

Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

speedchuck screaming in here with LIAR and voting for Not Epignosis stinks something awful

[Funnygurl555]

This is so ridiculous holy shit

@speedchuck @TonyStarkPrime please just tell us if you are mafia so we all can stop feeling like idiots

I am not.
I encourage you to find a plausible world where I’m scum.

did you know that not contracting words when making a statement is a tell that you're lying

[TonyStarkPrime]

This is so ridiculous holy shit

@speedchuck @TonyStarkPrime please just tell us if you are mafia so we all can stop feeling like idiots

I am not.
I encourage you to find a plausible world where I’m scum.

did you know that not contracting words when making a statement is a tell that you're lying

In that one episode of B99 it’s the opposite, isn’t it

[nutella]

I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.

Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.

Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?

Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.

What if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Guys if the mafia team had some super secret kill that they could just win with after this lynch, then there's no reason for the present drama to even exist.

They let us lynch literally whoever, their teammate or otherwise, and then use that kill to win. This is silly.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh Tony can kill desmond specifically?

I'm not desmond.

Didn’t you already claim someone else

[ts account]

Here is what I think.
Tony is mafia, and their kill is not tied to killing Raymond, but will kill somebody if they are Raymond. This is possibly mafia's only out to not be chain lynched, and so Tony made a last ditch effort to find Raymond to win tonight. Is this plausible?

[nutella]

Guys if the mafia team had some super secret kill that they could just win with after this lynch, then there's no reason for the present drama to even exist.

They let us lynch literally whoever, their teammate or otherwise, and then use that kill to win. This is silly.

Oh. Yep. They'd win either way. Therefore there is no reason for us to lynch anyone other than Epignosis.

[Funnygurl555]

speedchuck screaming in here with LIAR and voting for Not Epignosis stinks something awful

i mean this is good info 'cause this is just way too much for tsp / speed to be partners. unless this is another thing y'all do on this forum

that helps me 'cause it means lc's a good lynch after epi

[speedchuck]

Oh Tony can kill desmond specifically?

I'm not desmond.

Didn’t you already claim someone else

I did.

Did a desmond claim after me? If not, why have you outed that?

[Sloonei]

Could there be soup involved in all of this?

[nutella]

Here is what I think.
Tony is mafia, and their kill is not tied to killing Raymond, but will kill somebody if they are Raymond. This is possibly mafia's only out to not be chain lynched, and so Tony made a last ditch effort to find Raymond to win tonight. Is this plausible?

Yeah, that's plausible.


Stay the course, everyone. Lynch Epi. Don't feed Tony.

[nutella]

I think it is still possible that both Tony and Speed are mafia here. Maybe I'm overthinking this whole drama, but I can see it.

[speedchuck]

I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.

Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.

Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?

Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.

What if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.

That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.

[nutella]

I suppose it could easily be one of them and LC though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.

LyLo is the only time it makes sense goofball

[nutella]

Could there be soup involved in all of this?

God I hope not. What a terrible mechanic.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think speedchuck is still well worse than Tony.

[nutella]

I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.

Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.

Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?

Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.

What if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.

That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.

Uh, my point is that it's lylo though.

[speedchuck]

That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.

LyLo is the only time it makes sense goofball

I don't fake traps in LYLO. It's not a good time to start causing a ruckus if you're town.

[speedchuck]

Could there be soup involved in all of this?

God I hope not. What a terrible mechanic.

Soup is the best mechanic, so long as it's in the host post.

[nutella]

That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.

LyLo is the only time it makes sense goofball

I don't fake traps in LYLO. It's not a good time to start causing a ruckus if you're town.

I...what? Did you read my post?

[Long Con]

Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.

Wow, thank you for saying that out loud. I don't use any of these terms, and almost always find them to be a) terrible, or b) playing Mafia at a different level than I play, which is intimidating.

[Funnygurl555]

oooooooooooh, what if tony wants to know who desmond is because they have to know who's desmond to kill them?

we have mechanics like that on ffr