I don't really do any leading on other forums anymore Beky.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 amCause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
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What denial are you talking about?Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:14 amThis is not dissimilar to my own suspicion of Drago. I felt like his outright denial of me when I showed up yesterday was inorganic. I've worked with town drago in the past and had some good cooperation. I don't feel like there was any effort on his part to develop a read on me.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 amCause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
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I don’t care about “mindmelding”, I care about constructive exchanges. None of this is even in the ballpark of constructive. I could have done more on my end to make that happen, but you just slapped away everything I was saying. Those first couple flat denials and your response to my wilgy vote stood out to me. It didn’t feel like you were actually attempting to read me and just wanted an excuse to keep me down.
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Who is the player besides yourself that should never be shot tonight?
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You're right.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 6:39 amI don’t care about “mindmelding”, I care about constructive exchanges. None of this is even in the ballpark of constructive. I could have done more on my end to make that happen, but you just slapped away everything I was saying. Those first couple flat denials and your response to my wilgy vote stood out to me. It didn’t feel like you were actually attempting to read me and just wanted an excuse to keep me down.
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Honestly my gut says FG but I don’t think I could possibly justify it in any quantitative way
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Idt any of my townreads should be on the block tonight so you can justify it that way
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I don’t think I’d ever shoot johan tonight barring an actual slip either, but that’s more of an “I don’t want to shoot them on D2 of their first game here for what would amount to POE reasons” than a real townread tbh
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Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.
So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.
I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.
I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
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Actually what would be really helpful is if anyone has a history of playing with boo/has a decent handle on how boo typically plays.
Anyone? Anyone at all?
I’ll even take people that don’t but want to pretend they do tbh
Anyone? Anyone at all?
I’ll even take people that don’t but want to pretend they do tbh
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Btw if mafia could not poison me tonight, it would be pretty cool to get to LYLO as town it’s been awhile
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I assume that guarantees I’ll get poisoned though cause I don’t get to play full games anymore
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This is what happens when nobody asks me questions, I get super fucking annoying.
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If it makes you feel better I feel the same about all this peopleNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:15 am Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.
So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.
I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
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It does!Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:34 amIf it makes you feel better I feel the same about all this peopleNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:15 am Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.
So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.
I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
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Cause i see better targets to poison than Dusk when it comes to trust. I would poison anyone thats gets the gun cause obv those are most trusted onesSloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:11 amfrom anything. If you are bad and poisoned Duskfall, you can propose any motive for it to prompt a discussion in that direction. Maybe Duskfall was poisoned in part so that you could push the angle that he was poisoned for being on point with his suspects.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:59 amAttention from what?Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:51 amThis reads like a mafia player who is responsible for poisoning duskfall trying to misdirect attention.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:45 amFrom my point of view you were poisoned for suspecting right. I doubt you were poisoned cause you are good - idk if you are good and how good you are compared to people here - i doubt you were poisoned to throw us off the track.
What makes you believe that Duskfall's suspicions are the reason he was poisoned? Why not just that he's a widely trusted player?
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IDK, its my first game here so i cant tell. But you are more active when town and not as sheepy. You dont even try to voice your opinion.Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:57 amI don't really do any leading on other forums anymore Beky.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 amCause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
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If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun
Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia
That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia
That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
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Johan, how many mafia do you think are in the grouping of [hyena/Mac/gman/sloonei/dragomir/boo] ?
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You don’t have to know exactly which ones, just how many you think are there
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2 for sureNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 8:07 am You don’t have to know exactly which ones, just how many you think are there
Drago - Hyena
3rd is unknowm
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ayy johann is so town so town so town
the drago read is spicy
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[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] what do you think about shooting Wilgy or FG? Nobody's talking about them.
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Well I just put FG as my top TR, so. I wouldn’t count on that shot!
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Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.
He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining
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Why put a player into a scum read and then not even bother get them killed
Iike what
Iike what
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Ok—what’s your read on Mac?
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Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 9:01 pm.daetsni elpoep werd ohw beew a emaceb i os ega ym elpoep htiw tcaretni ot elbanu doohdlihc ym fo tol a tneps iJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 8:59 pm I’m doing this new thing where I read backwards. Idk of this was a good idea or not but it’s closer to in person interaction.![]()
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Yeah, I had a townread before those posts so nothing probably changes.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 9:17 pmYeah, I mean, I had a TR of Mac previously, the AtE wasn’t really enough to move the needle off it. Idk, I dislike that kind of ate tbh, but it’s whatever.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 8:58 pmYeah idk.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 11:49 am Fwiw I don’t TR Mac because of his SoD ATE, he asked for the gun and the responsibility that comes with it, then...got mad cause he had the responsibility of the gun? So I’m not particularly empathetic nor do I see it as a reason to TR him.
That said he’s probably town.
My reaction to ate is always “That looks really easy to fake and I wouldn’t have reacted like that....but eh, feels kinda townie.”
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I've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorseNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 amOk—what’s your read on Mac?
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Are you aware of the fairly last minute switch from giving dusk the gun to giving mac the gun that happened at EOD1?Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:58 amI've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorseNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 amOk—what’s your read on Mac?
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I wanted to say it was Mafia that sniped it but it would be a stretch to say it. Because unless he is Mafia giving gun to him would only make sense if his targets are wastly different than DusksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:01 amAre you aware of the fairly last minute switch from giving dusk the gun to giving mac the gun that happened at EOD1?Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:58 amI've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorseNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 amOk—what’s your read on Mac?
And combine that with the fact Dusk is poisoned it would mean
A) Dusk was sniped from getting a gun
B) Dusk wad poisoned to die
Someone REALLY wants dusk out of the game
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I know its a tinfoil but i really believe Dusk is being killed bcs he correctly figured who is scum
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Johan my ego is big enough already
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LMFAOJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:44 amFunnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 9:01 pm.daetsni elpoep werd ohw beew a emaceb i os ega ym elpoep htiw tcaretni ot elbanu doohdlihc ym fo tol a tneps iJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 8:59 pm I’m doing this new thing where I read backwards. Idk of this was a good idea or not but it’s closer to in person interaction.![]()
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You'd be using the poison while mafia wrong, then.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:55 am If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun
Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia
That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
And most of what you say here is logic so bad it feels forced.
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The Drago read is parroting the thread.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 8:24 am ayy johann is so town so town so town
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Or i am right and you wanna discredit itboo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 amYou'd be using the poison while mafia wrong, then.Johann wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:55 am If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun
Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia
That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
And most of what you say here is logic so bad it feels forced.
Your teammates should get to reigning you in before you dig this hole deeper.
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And this is what irks me
You basically called me a scum here.... and then proceeded to give tips to my "team mates"
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And this is what irks me
You basically called me a scum here.... and then proceeded to give tips to my "team mates"
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So if you trully believe i am scum - like you said i am - why on earth would you give tips to my "team mates"
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We should really be treating this day like any other and then giving the gun to someone to enforce the death of the player voted for.
Feel like nobody feels pressured into reacting because nobody is close to being lynched except the one time Mac was like "Jack, convince me not to shoot you."
Feel like nobody feels pressured into reacting because nobody is close to being lynched except the one time Mac was like "Jack, convince me not to shoot you."
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Skimming Dusk's iso, I think he was poisoned for being a consensus townread, not for having particularly scary reads since he was mostly after Hyena and Nutella and not even that harshly. Pushes my Hyena read south slightly all the same.
So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out
boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
So let's look at...
boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
Those first three.
So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out
boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
So let's look at...

boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
Those first three.
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That was a little heavy on the 'skimming' part of looking over his ISO, if that's your take-away from his D1 reads.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 12:51 pm Skimming Dusk's iso, I think he was poisoned for being a consensus townread, not for having particularly scary reads since he was mostly after Hyena and Nutella and not even that harshly. Pushes my Hyena read south slightly all the same.
So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out
boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
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boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
Those first three.
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In reading Boo's iso, I'm seeing more aggression than hunting. Is that normal? [mention]Sloonei[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention]
Like the previous post is a perfect example. He's not calling me scum. He's shoving me. Most of his iso is that. The rest is him flip flopping on Nutella and Duskfall reads.
I'd be okay with shooting this considering we're going to see less damning stuff in this setup than normal.
Like the previous post is a perfect example. He's not calling me scum. He's shoving me. Most of his iso is that. The rest is him flip flopping on Nutella and Duskfall reads.
I'd be okay with shooting this considering we're going to see less damning stuff in this setup than normal.
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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)
I don't see anything scummy in Wilgy's iso. It's only 16 posts and I'm not great at reading lowpost Wilgy (plus, Wilgy always seems to rand town so I don't have a good feel for his scumgame at all). Generally would not recommend blasting there today.