Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

[MacDougall]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Shot should basically always be between Mac and jack imo.


I really like when sloonei agrees with me cause then instead of having to try and convince people of a gut read I can just point to sloonei and go “what he said.”

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nanook is scum cause he busses! But he’s also scum cause he’s hard defending his partner!

Make up your damn mind.


Also, like, cut the shit Mac with the “if Nanook is at LYLO auto-shoot him,” I’m very obviously not getting poisoned while people are pushing me

Convenient.

Why did you want to take Boo and Wilgy out of the POE at all?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

A) I didn’t think wilgy was teamed with drago, and b) they’re fucking easy pushes, I wanted people to have to make harder ones.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

And no, it isn’t convenient, there’s a reason you shouldn’t tinfoil people this early—town should collectively just lock me as town for now and if I’m still alive at LYLO, THEN you tinfoil me. All pushing me now does is give wolves cover not to kill me and increase paranoia around me.


Unless this is a gotcha gambit where you’re gonna go “ha ha jk, Nanook is never a wolf!” it’s objectively poor play.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’s kind of annoying too cause like if wilgy or boo is scum, I’m gonna hear no end of “see I told you so, you fucking idiot” in postgame, but if they’re both town it’s gonna be “oh you were just lucky”

[MacDougall]

Seems like Jack and Mac are the easy pushes from this angle.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Seems like Jack and Mac are the easy pushes from this angle.

I only ever look easy.

[MacDougall]

Eh Johann you can shoot me, shoot Boo, shoot whoever I've summoned about as much energy as I have to try to project town and it's mostly fallen on deaf ears so meh.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Good morning?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol seriously why is nobody posting?

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] [mention]Johann[/mention] [mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]

[MacDougall]

Pretty wild that I went to made a post 4 hours before bed and wake up to two Jack prods.

[MacDougall]

Wait actually it was 10 hours before bed.

[MacDougall]

Pretty wild that I went to made a post 4 hours before bed and wake up to two Jack prods.

I seem to have had a stroke.

[Funnygurl555]

Lol seriously why is nobody posting?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Johann @Funnygurl555

i've been waiting for someone else to post lmao

[MacDougall]

Same kinda

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lol seriously why is nobody posting?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Johann @Funnygurl555

I’ve made it clear who I think should be shot, what more do you want

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol seriously why is nobody posting?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Johann @Funnygurl555

I’ve made it clear who I think should be shot, what more do you want

Have you?

Your iso says you’d sheep Boo. So...me?

My memory says “Mac” but idk I’m doing to things at once here.

[MacDougall]

Nanook apparently somehow thinks I am scum now after reading me correctly as town all game on tone to the point where he a) welcomed me to the towncore off my first post, b) accepted my derp clear until he just didn't anymore, provided no explanation for why I am scum aside from "POE" and is getting no suspicion because he shot Dragomir.

In my experience when townies have pet town reads that get stuck in the POE they fight against their inclusion. Much like Nanook has been for his teammates as opposed to me.

[leetic]

[mention]boo[/mention]
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
[mention]G-Man[/mention]
[mention]Hyena[/mention]
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
[mention]Johann[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Everyone looked thoroughly through the house of the person that had been shot, but found no hazardous substances, proving that he was not a poisoner. When everyone started looking suspiciously at the killer, he started coughing intensely...

MacDougall has been shot, he was vanilla town, and Johann has been poisoned!

You have 48 hours to choose someone to give the gun to.

[MacDougall]

Good luck team.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I wanted him to shoot jack or Mac

Pretty sure I said that

Now I just kinda want to shoot jack tbh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Although boo is technically on the table given Mac’s town flip

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways, we’re giving me the gun and I’m gonna shoot another mafia, they’re gonna have to poison me after thay so you can hold your “WHAT IF IT’S NANOOK THO, HE’S BEEN THROWING HIS WEIGHT AROUND” bs.

My shot is not locked in yet btw that’s just an early leaning.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@boo
@DrWilgy
@Funnygurl555
@G-Man
@Hyena
@Jackofhearts2005
@Johann
@MacDougall
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Everyone looked thoroughly through the house of the person that had been shot, but found no hazardous substances, proving that he was not a poisoner. When everyone started looking suspiciously at the killer, he started coughing intensely...

MacDougall has been shot, he was vanilla town, and Johann has been poisoned!

You have 48 hours to choose someone to give the gun to.

Zero surprises.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I wanted him to shoot jack or Mac

Pretty sure I said that

Now I just kinda want to shoot jack tbh

You might as well scum claim if you’re gonna push me.

Who can my partner possibly be?

[Funnygurl555]

sorry mac

give me the gun

[Funnygurl555]

wait you can give it to nanook...

but guyyyyyys i was tryna tell u bout mac

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

We’re not losing any more town to the dynamic duo of B “unexplained lock scum reads on flipped townies” oo and Nan “lol just trust me as i lead us down the wrong path since I shot a wolf a bunch of players suspected and I hope you think bussing isn’t a thing” ook.

Mac said he was certain Boo was mafia and certain I’m town.

Gimmie the gun. I’m shooting Boo. There’s no town motivation in his posta and Nanook is using the flimsiest of reasoning or no reasoning at all to keep him out of the POE.

“Technically on the table” my ass. Boo might as well be the entire shot list.

[Jackofhearts2005]

wait you can give it to nanook...

but guyyyyyys i was tryna tell u bout mac

Why on earth would you give it to Nanook after his day yesterday, which ranges from garbage to openwolfing?

[DrWilgy]

I see afew on. Do we want to do a gth?

[DrWilgy]

I guess not.

Whatever. I'm still on the whole " a vote for me is a vote for a dead Jack." Thing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I guess not.

Whatever. I'm still on the whole " a vote for me is a vote for a dead Jack." Thing.

Why? Fucking why?

I’m the most obvious townie in the universe. The entire rest of the poe wanted me dead yesterday except Mac.

Mac got shot and flipped town.

Now the entire rest of the poe....still wants me dead.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If you go through my mafia career, it is littered with players I’ve bussed. I rarely get bussed. I’m always the last wolf. Last wolf in Inception, Shockhead, MU Anniversary 2019, Kirby. Last two surviving wolves in Pirates, Wire. I bussed in MU Thrones Mash. I never get bussed, especially by the likes of Boo or Wilgy, who wont be able to endgame alone.

If I have a teammate, they don’t try to bus me yesterday and if I have a teammate, they see the Mac flip and go “guess Jack was town.”

Instead, Wilgy and Nanook still want me dead. Boo voted for Nanook after he said he wanted to shoot me and left without saying a word.

[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] [mention]Johann[/mention] [mention]G-Man[/mention]

You’re seeing this shit, right?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Idk which of the three is playing poorly and which two are the wolves but this stinks. A townie should be able to smell this bullshit from a mile away.

[Funnygurl555]

If you go through my mafia career, it is littered with players I’ve bussed. I rarely get bussed. I’m always the last wolf. Last wolf in Inception, Shockhead, MU Anniversary 2019, Kirby. Last two surviving wolves in Pirates, Wire. I bussed in MU Thrones Mash. I never get bussed, especially by the likes of Boo or Wilgy, who wont be able to endgame alone.

If I have a teammate, they don’t try to bus me yesterday and if I have a teammate, they see the Mac flip and go “guess Jack was town.”

Instead, Wilgy and Nanook still want me dead. Boo voted for Nanook after he said he wanted to shoot me and left without saying a word.

@Funnygurl555 @Johann @G-Man

You’re seeing this shit, right?

ok. ok jack let's talk

but give me the gun

(and also i was right about mac ok T___________T)

[Funnygurl555]

ftr, i get that jack is town now and i'm sorry

but c m o n it rly did done look like you were a wolf

this game is hard

[Jackofhearts2005]

ftr, i get that jack is town now and i'm sorry

but c m o n it rly did done look like you were a wolf

this game is hard

It's because I'm a suspicious person irl

Who're you blasting if given the gun and the night magically ends when you see this post?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’ve got an angle on Boo but I need him to actually post for it to be effective.

[mention]boo[/mention] olly olly oxen free

[DrWilgy]

Dude, I've been calling you scum for two cycles now. Jack and Johann not being t/t or w/w together is and was still my strongest read and I'm pretty sure Johann is t.

Further, Sloonei made me not feel insane with this:

Jack & Drago

Spoiler: show

@Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?

Most likely, yeah.

Good shit. Everyone, give Hyena the gun.

This reads townie independent of Nutella's alignment. Moreso if Hyena is town.

@Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?

Most likely, yeah.

Good shit. Everyone, give Hyena the gun.

This reads townie independent of Nutella's alignment. Moreso if Hyena is town.

Why? What about that post is good?

Seems to be the kinda thing a town player would say.

I’m kinda down with Nutella getting shot cause if she’s a wolf, I’ll take credit and if she’s town, I can say it isn’t my fault.

@boo
@Dragomir
@DrWilgy
@Duskfall
@Funnygurl555
@G-Man
@Hyena
@Jackofhearts2005
@Johann
@MacDougall
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@Sloonei


The gun has been given to MacDougall! During this night, he can privately submit the name of one person to kill. N1 begins now and lasts for 24 hours.

Lol who’s bright idea was that?

It was Mac's.

Figures.

Skimming Dusk's iso, I think he was poisoned for being a consensus townread, not for having particularly scary reads since he was mostly after Hyena and Nutella and not even that harshly. Pushes my Hyena read south slightly all the same.

So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out

boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei


So let's look at...

boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei

Those first three.

Alright, so now that Nutella has flipped town, I think my shot list is going to be {G-Man, Dragomir, Jack}. Those were the three that supported giving me the gun after I announced the I would always shoot Nutella if I had gotten the gun. I think Sloonei rises to my townleans. Boo remains there. Mac is in my townreads now -- his emotional reaction at SoD kinda sealed it for me.

Here is my current reason for G-Man, Drago, and Jack.

Surely at least one of those reads has evolved past this point, right?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?

This is weak. Jack plops a lazy town read on Drago immediately and never looks back. Jack can get shot.

And I also do agree with another of sloonbots lines here:

[misc crap cut]
But in saying that I want to note that I was the fourth person to vote for Johann in the current poll. Before me were johann himself, accompanied by... Jack and Mac. It's not outrageous to believe that one or two scum players would opt to vote for johann at this stage: given his drago interactions, he's the most obvious candidate on the poll. If you're drago's partner, you vote there and hope he can be convinced to vote for somebody else.

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

[Funnygurl555]

i'm waiting. let's see what ya do jack

and ... well... y'all's world got proven wrong with mac flipping town

it is time...... to entertain the possibilities

[Funnygurl555]

also give me the gun

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dude, I've been calling you scum for two cycles now.

And I've posted over a hundred times since and it's seemingly done absolutely nothing to move your read.

Jack and Johann not being t/t or w/w together is and was still my strongest read and I'm pretty sure Johann is t.

That read doesn't make any damn sense. A townie and a wolf and two townies will both fight in a way that makes you say "those players aren't in btsc together."

You can have reads like "these guys aren't on a wolf team."

You can have reads like "these guys are both really really good at mafia and known for not tunneling and they strongly townread each other so I bet one of them is right."

You can't just have blanket "not t/t" reads. That's not a thing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Further, Sloonei made me not feel insane with this:

This is also out of date by hundreds of posts that Sloonei admitted to not reading. I barely interacted with Drago. Same can be said for a lot of players. I had one bad read. Sue me. Nobody in this game is batting a thousand. My batting average doesn't make me scum.

And I also do agree with another of sloonbots lines here:

[misc crap cut]
But in saying that I want to note that I was the fourth person to vote for Johann in the current poll. Before me were johann himself, accompanied by... Jack and Mac. It's not outrageous to believe that one or two scum players would opt to vote for johann at this stage: given his drago interactions, he's the most obvious candidate on the poll. If you're drago's partner, you vote there and hope he can be convinced to vote for somebody else.

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

You think I choose to vote for Johann because given Johann's interactions with Drago, he was the most obvious candidate on the poll and I'm Drago's partner who voted there and hoped to convince Johann to vote somebody else?

Is that a real theory? Not from at the time Sloonei who didn't know Mac was scum but from right now Wilgy who knows 6 players voted Johann and Mac was town?



What about FG and Hyena? Are they also not possibly t/t with Johann because they voted for him?

What about Sloonei and Mac? Are they not possibly t/t with Johann because they voted for him?

I don't believe you believe this.....which is problematic because I don't believe Boo or Nanook either and there are only 2 wolves left.

[Jackofhearts2005]

In Wilgy's defense, being really behind can make you have bad reads. Especially on me.

Gth he's the townie. We'll see how Boo handles his written exam.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm just gonna fight everybody who scumreads me until I bash it into their scums that they need to townread or buddy me and I'll use the pieces to tell you who the wolves are.

[Johann]

Why poison me if there are people.who didnt get the gun

[DrWilgy]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], what's your read on Hyena?

[Jackofhearts2005]

, what's your read on Hyena?

Town. I think Drago spewed him town. I think his play has been in line with town Hyena I’ve seen before.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I wanted him to shoot jack or Mac

Pretty sure I said that

Now I just kinda want to shoot jack tbh

You might as well scum claim if you’re gonna push me.

Who can my partner possibly be?

I’m too lazy to find that quote you had earlier so I’ll just paraphrase—I’m hunting one scum at a time and you’re next


(In all seriousness you’re one of 2-3 people I’m considering)