Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

Although I think the action of slanking and making up excuses has been used by MR almost every time as scum, this time it does feel different in a way that I can’t really describe.

I’m moreso pushing beyond the level 1 read and thinking why he made that post apologizing for the nth time when nobody even mentioned him

He could’ve just skated or provided manufactured content

Idk I’m kinda buying it as more of a town way of posting

He did provide manufactured content tho

[Turnip Head]

Although I think the action of slanking and making up excuses has been used by MR almost every time as scum, this time it does feel different in a way that I can’t really describe.

I’m moreso pushing beyond the level 1 read and thinking why he made that post apologizing for the nth time when nobody even mentioned him

He could’ve just skated or provided manufactured content

Idk I’m kinda buying it as more of a town way of posting

He did provide manufactured content tho

Exactly. Idk what to tell ya Ted, he's badishes for sure. His "GTH" reads post felt less like "here's what I truly think" and more "here's what has happened based on what I was forced to read cuz I'm scum"

[tutuu]

ok ill sheep

[Master Radishes]

We had like 3 games here + 1 offsite

And in that one you town read me early as well iirc and you were scum

I think there’s a decent chance you’re just town that finds it hard to find the motivation, although that isn’t clearing on its own, because you didn’t have the drive as a mafia either.

Although I think the action of slanking and making up excuses has been used by MR almost every time as scum, this time it does feel different in a way that I can’t really describe.

I appreciate you seeing the truth of me and all, but can you stop thinking you have a book of meta on me? 3 or 4 games isn't enough to start making catch-all claims about what I do as scum 'every time' or whatever. Every game we've played has been within a different personal context of mine, and I don't think 'consistent' is the word anyone who knows me would use to describe my play across games as either alignment.

One thing I don't do is slank 'on purpose' as a strategy. If I'm not really engaged or motivated that's just it at face value.

[tutuu]

is it possible to see the triumviritrtiritates however u spell it or not anymore?

[Master Radishes]

Turnip is doing it too, thinking he can read me off meta from like two games together. I don't even remember anything he did in those games, personally.


I'm finding this weirdly annoying, because I don't think these people trying to meta read me on little meta are even wolves.

[Master Radishes]

Like, take it or leave it guys, but I didn't think this game was going to start so soon when I signed up, and this has been a busy week of work for me and I've been in another game and all that.

Whoever is town amongst my voters better promise to feel shame when they see my flip.

[Master Radishes]

Moving my vote to [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine for now out of self-pres and because it's a bleh slot that isn't a big loss, whereas Marcher is...I mean, I don't find him very townie, but I also don't know him and want him to not die super early in his first Syndicate game.

[Master Radishes]

My voters are currently:

Bronana - tbh I'd need to iso before I force a read here
Turnip Head - hard to get a sense of; I liked the feel of most of his posts, though I do find his casing of me...a bit simple - but overall still considering this a town slot
Nutella - just not at all playing in a pro-town way at the moment; overly justifying her read on me and acting over confident about it
dunya - apparently didn't mind me and also scumread nutella, so why am I seeing her on this list? I'm not sure what to make of that
tutuu - just sheeping everything with a pulse but very open about it so still a townread


Like, this is still nutella. Shading me but only voting me after others have done so? Add it to the pile of reasons she's a woof.

[Master Radishes]

I have no idea when EoD is but I think it's fairly soon. I probably won't be here unless it's now or close to now.

[Marcher Jovian]

Hmm good point about lissa tbh

@dunya @Lissa why did you GTH KZA as scum?

I followed his champs game (well, d1, but that was all he was alive for anyway) and he was... hm. Cutting and self assured, and I don't think hipfirey is quite the word but something in that vein?

Feels a bit limp here in comparison and his main reads are really easy.

@Lissa I don't get this sense from KZA at all, I don't think he's "limp" or that his reads are too easy. Convince me this is a real opinion?

It's, like. Have you played with/seen Mantichora? You could compare them in his champs game. They're not like, identical players, but you could draw some comparison. You can't do that with this game.

His conviction in that game just felt sharper and bitier, he was... jumpier? Not like jumpy. Thought pattern jumpy.

Here he kinda just dropped stuff and left it there.

Did we watch the same game? Like KZA in that game dropped some “I think this person is townie” around, but spent most of d1 tunneling MM. I didn’t get the same jumpiness feels. I don’t get the limpness thing either, if anything it feels like the opposite. KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? Like g7 KZA didn’t feel like the type to go “ok I will iso this person and report back with the result” while KZA here just did.

[tutuu]

I have no idea when EoD is but I think it's fairly soon. I probably won't be here unless it's now or close to now.

eod is in 2 hours

[Master Radishes]

I formally recommend against a Kaz lynch. I reserve the right to rescind this recommendation in the future.

[Master Radishes]

I have no idea when EoD is but I think it's fairly soon. I probably won't be here unless it's now or close to now.

eod is in 2 hours

Thanks.



I won't be here. It'll be midnight-thirty for me and I'm exhausted.

[nutella]

overly justifying her read on me and acting over confident about it

Indeed, you seen that before eh?

[tutuu]

alright. sorry if you're town. your posts were fun to read

[Lissa]

Hmm good point about lissa tbh

@dunya @Lissa why did you GTH KZA as scum?

I followed his champs game (well, d1, but that was all he was alive for anyway) and he was... hm. Cutting and self assured, and I don't think hipfirey is quite the word but something in that vein?

Feels a bit limp here in comparison and his main reads are really easy.

@Lissa I don't get this sense from KZA at all, I don't think he's "limp" or that his reads are too easy. Convince me this is a real opinion?

It's, like. Have you played with/seen Mantichora? You could compare them in his champs game. They're not like, identical players, but you could draw some comparison. You can't do that with this game.

His conviction in that game just felt sharper and bitier, he was... jumpier? Not like jumpy. Thought pattern jumpy.

Here he kinda just dropped stuff and left it there.

Did we watch the same game? Like KZA in that game dropped some “I think this person is townie” around, but spent most of d1 tunneling MM. I didn’t get the same jumpiness feels. I don’t get the limpness thing either, if anything it feels like the opposite. KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? Like g7 KZA didn’t feel like the type to go “ok I will iso this person and report back with the result” while KZA here just did.

" KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? "

this is a pretty good way of describing what I'm trying to say actually

we might have different definitions of limp, i suppose, it was rather imprecise

but also yeah the MM read there is like, the main instance of "DID NOT just drop this and leave it there, was sharper", that's exactly what I'm referring to

[dunya]

When radishes flips wolf, nutella is his busser 100%

[Marcher Jovian]

Hmm good point about lissa tbh

@dunya @Lissa why did you GTH KZA as scum?

I followed his champs game (well, d1, but that was all he was alive for anyway) and he was... hm. Cutting and self assured, and I don't think hipfirey is quite the word but something in that vein?

Feels a bit limp here in comparison and his main reads are really easy.

@Lissa I don't get this sense from KZA at all, I don't think he's "limp" or that his reads are too easy. Convince me this is a real opinion?

It's, like. Have you played with/seen Mantichora? You could compare them in his champs game. They're not like, identical players, but you could draw some comparison. You can't do that with this game.

His conviction in that game just felt sharper and bitier, he was... jumpier? Not like jumpy. Thought pattern jumpy.

Here he kinda just dropped stuff and left it there.

Did we watch the same game? Like KZA in that game dropped some “I think this person is townie” around, but spent most of d1 tunneling MM. I didn’t get the same jumpiness feels. I don’t get the limpness thing either, if anything it feels like the opposite. KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? Like g7 KZA didn’t feel like the type to go “ok I will iso this person and report back with the result” while KZA here just did.

" KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? "

this is a pretty good way of describing what I'm trying to say actually

we might have different definitions of limp, i suppose, it was rather imprecise

but also yeah the MM read there is like, the main instance of "DID NOT just drop this and leave it there, was sharper", that's exactly what I'm referring to

I mean from my PoV KZA seems plenty interested in following up and being sharp on his reads. Like how are you reading the last pages any differently??

[nutella]

When radishes flips wolf, nutella is his busser 100%

This is a gross post and makes me think you know he will flip wolf and are setting me up.

[KZA]

That is a nasty post by Dunya lol

[nutella]

Dunyas iso mentions of radish are super weird and very potentially w/w overall

[dunya]

The whole exchange between them is so fake and artificial I'm not buying it

[Master Radishes]

Hey nutella, let's say I'm town. Where are you looking next? Who's the wolf nudging my wagon along?

[Master Radishes]

Dunya, same question.

[dunya]

Dunyas iso mentions of radish are super weird and very potentially w/w overall

nutella makes that assertion in under 1 min

You bad girl, very bad.

[tessepia]

So it would seem the stars have aligned once more. It has been a long time since we met last, and I continue to wonder why the Scribes find it within their wisdom to keep us apart so. Even still, it is good to see you again.

I have made my decision.

[tutuu]

new phone who dis

[Lissa]

Hmm good point about lissa tbh

@dunya @Lissa why did you GTH KZA as scum?

I followed his champs game (well, d1, but that was all he was alive for anyway) and he was... hm. Cutting and self assured, and I don't think hipfirey is quite the word but something in that vein?

Feels a bit limp here in comparison and his main reads are really easy.

@Lissa I don't get this sense from KZA at all, I don't think he's "limp" or that his reads are too easy. Convince me this is a real opinion?

It's, like. Have you played with/seen Mantichora? You could compare them in his champs game. They're not like, identical players, but you could draw some comparison. You can't do that with this game.

His conviction in that game just felt sharper and bitier, he was... jumpier? Not like jumpy. Thought pattern jumpy.

Here he kinda just dropped stuff and left it there.

Did we watch the same game? Like KZA in that game dropped some “I think this person is townie” around, but spent most of d1 tunneling MM. I didn’t get the same jumpiness feels. I don’t get the limpness thing either, if anything it feels like the opposite. KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? Like g7 KZA didn’t feel like the type to go “ok I will iso this person and report back with the result” while KZA here just did.

" KZA in g7 felt like very in-the-moment, free-flowy sort of “I like this post, I hate that post”. KZA here feels more uptight and ?professional? "

this is a pretty good way of describing what I'm trying to say actually

we might have different definitions of limp, i suppose, it was rather imprecise

but also yeah the MM read there is like, the main instance of "DID NOT just drop this and leave it there, was sharper", that's exactly what I'm referring to

I mean from my PoV KZA seems plenty interested in following up and being sharp on his reads. Like how are you reading the last pages any differently??

He dropped them and then responded to a few things people said about them and that was p much it

Lemme try again conveying this

By sharpness I mean like, attitude, it's a tonal thing, bite. there's like. one post here where he had this maybe?

[nutella]

Dunyas iso mentions of radish are super weird and very potentially w/w overall

nutella makes that assertion in under 1 min

You bad girl, very bad.

No, I had looked earlier and mentioned it then as well. This just worsened it.

[KZA]

Well Bronana isn't a D1 lynch for me over Jovian, he doesn't scream town to me but I don't really have anything damning on him outside of vibe

Dunya and Lissa are kind of piquing my interest but I'm actually gonna take a nap now

[nutella]

dunya has like kind of a lot of weird jokey posts about radish I'm not sure what to make of it tbh

[mention]dunya[/mention] this was when I looked at your iso for radish stuff after kza brought it up.

[Master Radishes]

Jumping into a different convo for a sec:

Lissa I get what you mean about KZA and I think it's an accurate assessment. I also don't think it makes him scum. I could be wrong - I only know his meta in a specific forum's context - but I don't think making him a D1 yeet again is a good idea. Give him time to sort himself; if he's scum I think it'll become more apparent as the game goes on.

[KZA]

I'm really bothered by where Lissa and Jovian are going with this.

Like if the end goal is to get clues about my alignment in THIS game based on my ONE ROUND in the champs, you're not gonna get anything accurate.

[nutella]

Hey nutella, let's say I'm town. Where are you looking next? Who's the wolf nudging my wagon along?

My other suspects would include carotte, prob still Ted, TSP

To the second part, perhaps TH, maybe dunya but I really think she mostly looks awful if you flip wolf here.

[nutella]

So it would seem the stars have aligned once more. It has been a long time since we met last, and I continue to wonder why the Scribes find it within their wisdom to keep us apart so. Even still, it is good to see you again.

I have made my decision.

Hmmmmmmmm

[Carotenoid]

Hi. I didn't really catch-up, why is Master Radishes top voted?

[Lissa]

Jumping into a different convo for a sec:

Lissa I get what you mean about KZA and I think it's an accurate assessment. I also don't think it makes him scum. I could be wrong - I only know his meta in a specific forum's context - but I don't think making him a D1 yeet again is a good idea. Give him time to sort himself; if he's scum I think it'll become more apparent as the game goes on.

Hm

Ok, noted - I imagine you have much more experience than I have with his game

Fine leaving him for a bit

[nutella]

If dunya is town she should know better than to tunnel me after last time.

So I think she is a desperate wolf pushing for an alternative associative on her teammate who is about to flip.

[Master Radishes]

Hi. I didn't really catch-up, why is Master Radishes top voted?

They hate me cuz they ain't me.

[dunya]

If dunya is town she should know better than to tunnel me after last time.

So I think she is a desperate wolf pushing for an alternative associative on her teammate who is about to flip.

Appeal to emotion denied.

[Master Radishes]

From my perspective, this nutella/dunya dichotomy doesn't feel w/w.

Just saying this for any people in the future isoing me or them. (Hi, future people. Hope the game is going well.)

[dunya]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] does Radish last post re: KZA meta sway u?

[Master Radishes]

Again, for post flip:

The wolf on my wagon is likely one of nutella or dunya, outside shot to bronana I guess.

[Master Radishes]

I'm probably going to be asleep very soon.


A vote for me is a vote for communism. Don't vote me.

[tedxtr]

This game only delivers at EoD when it’s at 2AM wow

[Master Radishes]

Also [VOTE: Marcher Jovian] aubergine because Wilgy isn't going to last as a wagon, so it's the better self-pres option.

[Carotenoid]

What happens if there's a tie?

[bronana]

My voters are currently:

Bronana - tbh I'd need to iso before I force a read here
Turnip Head - hard to get a sense of; I liked the feel of most of his posts, though I do find his casing of me...a bit simple - but overall still considering this a town slot
Nutella - just not at all playing in a pro-town way at the moment; overly justifying her read on me and acting over confident about it
dunya - apparently didn't mind me and also scumread nutella, so why am I seeing her on this list? I'm not sure what to make of that
tutuu - just sheeping everything with a pulse but very open about it so still a townread


Like, this is still nutella. Shading me but only voting me after others have done so? Add it to the pile of reasons she's a woof.

Is there a summary or detailed breakdown of why you believe nutella is a wolf?

[tedxtr]

Feeling good about the Marcher wagon, don’t know what to tell you peeps