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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
feeling pretty solid about that post eod sequence of jovian posts
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 1]
I think most of my derpclears have been as legit as my scumslips... but I don't think this qualifies either way.
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just felt pure and real
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
Ennnh, upon reread, I was confusing "game mechanics" with "ability mechanics". I realized that soon after, but decided to leave it in case anything shook loose somehow.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:21 amHow did you get that out of their post?outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:59 am i wonder if most of the mechanics of the game are already spelled out in the OP
So, claiming vanilla?
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I guess at the least there's an angle to your question where if they're actually vanilla that likely confirms them town.
How the double hockey sticks do you not have a quote on me
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Your d0 posts didn't stick out to me

I do plan to comb over it again as most of that read came in small bursts between stuff at work, and while exhausted.
It's my only non-mash experience with you so it's the best meta I got

If you had read the top part of the post, you'd realize that was all written prior to the banish.Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:27 pmI just noticed soneji shaded the banish lolSpoiler: show


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So what does that tell you
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I dislike Lissa moreKZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:40 pmSo what does that tell you
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What kind of answer did you even expect from that question? If you’d thought about it for half a second you’d have known what I’d sayMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:42 pmI dislike Lissa moreKZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:40 pmSo what does that tell you
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lolMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:43 pmWhat kind of answer did you even expect from that question? If you’d thought about it for half a second you’d have known what I’d sayMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:42 pmI dislike Lissa moreKZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:40 pmSo what does that tell you
weak shade
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right back at you lolKZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:44 pmlolMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:43 pmWhat kind of answer did you even expect from that question? If you’d thought about it for half a second you’d have known what I’d sayMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:42 pmI dislike Lissa more
weak shade
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
what is the problem with it exactly
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
sorry i'm like
it's probably one of the worst possible examples of my average wolf game and i kind of have a pride thing about being at least marginally better than it so i really hate people using it as a yardstick of my wolf game
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It is meh.Lissa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:45 pmwhat is the problem with it exactly
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
aight thenMarcher Jovian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:46 pmIt is meh.Lissa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:45 pmwhat is the problem with it exactly
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I had the same thought tbh
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what does that mean
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:57 pmwhat does that mean





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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
Full disclosure, I just had illegal BTSC with Moth.
Here is a picture of him on my workshop doorframe as proof.

We chatted it up.
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We chatted it up.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
i thought it seemed kinda fake tbh
marcher never answered me on why they had such a strong townread there afaik, lmk if i missed it. if not explain it to me, i'm not seeing it
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I like Bronana more after EoD
Jovan still scum
Dunya scum
Should ISO nutella but I'm too drunk
Jovan still scum
Dunya scum
Should ISO nutella but I'm too drunk
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
I can't figure out how to a non-tedious way to multi-quote posts from someone's iso, but Radishes was VERY insistent on nutella being a wolf. I've had some light concerns there, and I def give Radishes' read some weight. The way she moved from Sloonei --> ted --> MR, expressing such confidence that person was a wolf each time, it just feels wrong. Especially since they're all probably villagers. Like she was looking to park a vote and bury a villa, then moved on to the next target when the previous wagon lost traction. Her read on ted stayed the same even while his posting got much more villagy.
moth has had a massive drop-off since that d0.
Gonna look at Marcher next.
moth has had a massive drop-off since that d0.
Gonna look at Marcher next.
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
looked at a town and wolf game from marcher on cfc. They did the endless questions thing in the wolf game that they've been criticized for here, while the town game seemed to not have that at all, much more direct.
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 0]
Now that's a w/w post.Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:21 pmtedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:50 am...this was an opener.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:03 pm How likely do you think it is that all the people that have posted so far are civilian?
Hey Carotenoid what do you think about tedxtr's response to your entrance? (and also like tedxtr's thing in general of making a quick retrospective on the first pages and establishing slank cover)Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:14 pm I'm here if you wanna talk! I'm catching up on another tab but I'm easily distracted lol
The whole interaction from here feels suspiciously light, maybe an excuse to try and establish a townread there and try to steer the thread away.
Looking at Carot's iso again, I don't know how you could possibly have a strong townread on this person? Very dubious.
This is kinda grasping at straws as a reasoning.Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:32 pmIt feels like the kind of weird mindset post that comes from >rand town. Like mafia already know everyone's alignment. They know exactly who's posted and what their alignments are. It feels like the sort of random thoughts that town sometimes has that are hard to think of when you're mafia.tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:06 pm Nevermind, apparently Marcher had an issue with my interpretation of Carote’s opening?
I don’t see what the problem is there. “Hey guys, how many civillians have posted?” seems like about a pretty wolfy post, for an opener.
@Marcher Jovian Why do you like that particular post??
tl;dr lack of tmi
Who the hell comes into an eod, sees a strong villager was misyeeted, and gets mad about people voting the counterwagon? how did lissa think that was "pure and real" wtf
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
I said he was competent, which isnt quite the sameouted wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:43 pm @bronana
you wanna walk me through the tedxtr read
he seems very snappy/obnoxious/arrogant like in that way villagers tend to get when they think they are gods gift to mankind. you said he was much more reasonable in the game you played with him
i dont really think hes a wolf i just wanna get a better understanding

at the time i made that post, he was basically a slanker who hadnt done anything except pop in to make what i perceived as bad, narrow-minded pushes and seemed to be avoiding having to make wider reads on the thread. Now they have a million posts, expanded well past that, and are pretty villagy, so my perspective there might seem weird even if it was perfectly cromulent at the time.
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what kind of wolf does that though.
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Like I think it's possible Jovian is wolf and had TMI on carotte town, but I don't think they ever do that as w/w? And I suspect carotte more than jovian anyway
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That phrase is one of my all time pet peeves in games. It's so often applied incorrectly.
It was obviously done to look villagy. See Lissa's reaction to it.
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and yet you, and jovian themself, were baffled at lissa townreading it
???
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 1]
Sick post. It lines up with my current opinions, therefore I like it. Feel like a dummy for sussing you about this. I tried to switch people to Carot but I'm still at fault for being partly responsible for getting the ball rolling on you. SorryMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:45 pmWithout double checking things, just impressions:bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:32 pmLay it on me brother.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:30 pm Just an FYI, I do intend to play this game seriously. Some day. Just...not right now. Busy drowning in work. (I didn't think the game would start so soon.)
I can do lazy GTH reads if anyone wants, but they'd be kind of worthless at this point.
Townie:
Moth - because he just doesn't seem to care how he comes across
tedxtr - being insightful yet a bit cautious (in a good way) in his outlook on the people he's interacted with
KZA - meta read; we've played together plenty and he sounds comfortable here
tutuu - perhaps mistaking 'fun' for 'townie' but I like them so far
Townie I guess?
bronana - mainly based on presence; not sure I've yet seen anything that makes me slot you higher than this
Nook - slanking D1 is his MO; when I scummed with him he was in the background but always nudging things in certain directions on D1, and he's not doing that here
TSP - responding to a big post with just 'bad' is vintage TSP
Mac - seems jovial enough to be town, but nothing that isn't fakeable tbh
Hmmmmm:
Nutella & Sloonei - tbh I kind of want to agree with both of them; meta-wise, neither has yet convinced me I'm seeing the town version of themselves (but I'm not calling this w/w) - needs further observation
Marcher - seems to be forcing things
Carotenoid - seems a bit hesitant, like putting a toe in the water but not fully committing yet
Not going to force anyone into a scum read.
Not going to comment on anyone else even though I've noticed them post a few times, e.g. Lissa, Turnip Head, etc. If I don't have solid meta I'm not going to hedge a read until I think about it properly.

I'll take that KZA read, and note the TSP + Nanook ones as well.
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
Why would ted keep digging his heels about the marcher thing when it was obviously garnering massive pushback? what kind of wolf does that? Yet you wolfread him all the way.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:11 amand yet you, and jovian themself, were baffled at lissa townreading it
???
Wolves do all kind of shit. I am looking for the villagy spirit behind Marcher's posts, and I don't see it. Getting increasingly confident Marcher/Carot is w/w but holding myself back from prematurely bringin out the finger guns.
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
they didn't that i can see
i agree i found it baffling and still don't really get it
just think the way they came into the thread about it felt like they believed it
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
Now we're at the stage of the game where I have eighty tabs open.
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
that sounds fairly notablebronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:00 am looked at a town and wolf game from marcher on cfc. They did the endless questions thing in the wolf game that they've been criticized for here, while the town game seemed to not have that at all, much more direct.
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Interesting I felt it looked plannedLissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:17 amthey didn't that i can see
i agree i found it baffling and still don't really get it
just think the way they came into the thread about it felt like they believed it
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
suppose i may have focused so much on the feel and tone of it i didn't think about whether it actually made sense
hm
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are these... isoable
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Sure
I have no personal preference so I'll let you decide who's power Rangers and who's turtles
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling
[mention]Marcher Jovian[/mention] can you do so
still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk
[mention]Marcher Jovian[/mention] can you do so
still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
Where I'm at right now. Order in tiers purely alphabetical.
Villagy
bronana
KZA
tedxtr
tutuu
dunya
Lissa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TonyStarkPrime
Sort Pile
DrWilgy
Long Con
MacDougall
moth
motobot
outed wolf
Soneji
Turnip Head
Wolfy
nutella
Carotenoid
Marcher Jovian
Villagy
bronana
KZA
tedxtr
tutuu
dunya
Lissa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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DrWilgy
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moth
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Soneji
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Wolfy
nutella
Carotenoid
Marcher Jovian
Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
how is it TMIing a villager when you suspect carot and are hesitant on suspecting marchernutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:23 am hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling
@Marcher Jovian can you do so
still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk
that sentence is breaking my brain
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In the search box, put in the username under "Posted by member" and check "search this thread only"
For catan, I manually ctrl+f'd the first few pages because marcher had too many posts for the search function apparently.
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I just don't see it as w/w, I think it is w/v or v/w (or v/v I guess but meh)bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:30 amhow is it TMIing a villager when you suspect carot and are hesitant on suspecting marchernutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:23 am hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling
@Marcher Jovian can you do so
still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk
that sentence is breaking my brain
I'm open to your view of it though, maybe they are just teammates but I really don't feel it and I don't have the energy to dig into marcher's meta
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dude the site has iso buttons on desktop, and if you're on mobile and they dont show up the host provided the links in the OP for convenience
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]
idgi, why can't it be w/w?nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:34 amI just don't see it as w/w, I think it is w/v or v/w (or v/v I guess but meh)bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:30 amhow is it TMIing a villager when you suspect carot and are hesitant on suspecting marchernutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:23 am hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling
@Marcher Jovian can you do so
still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk
that sentence is breaking my brain
I'm open to your view of it though, maybe they are just teammates but I really don't feel it and I don't have the energy to dig into marcher's meta
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oh wait youre talking about a different site huh
nvm im dumb
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