Space Invaders [END]

[TonyStarkPrime]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

[Epignosis]

@Nutella, if you had to bet the farm on a scum team right now, what would it be?

What purpose does this question serve?

if I'm on her scum team we need to save another day.

nutella's scum team?

[protocultures]

k



the way I see it I have roughly a 2/3 chance of hitting correctly today



if I am not incorrectly clearing someone which I very well could be


so let's solve this

I am good.

I would bet my bankroll protocultures is good.

That's two people I wouldn't kill if I were you.

Out of the remaining folk, I would rank them Carotenoid, MacDougall, TonyStarkPrime, Alison from "would like to have dinner with" to "would blow up with a Molotov cocktail containing laser guns that shoot bees after the lasers come out."

bankroll?

I smell a poker player.

[Epignosis]

k



the way I see it I have roughly a 2/3 chance of hitting correctly today



if I am not incorrectly clearing someone which I very well could be


so let's solve this

I am good.

I would bet my bankroll protocultures is good.

That's two people I wouldn't kill if I were you.

Out of the remaining folk, I would rank them Carotenoid, MacDougall, TonyStarkPrime, Alison from "would like to have dinner with" to "would blow up with a Molotov cocktail containing laser guns that shoot bees after the lasers come out."

bankroll?

I smell a poker player.

Long time ago.

DFS guy now.

[protocultures]

@Nutella, if you had to bet the farm on a scum team right now, what would it be?

What purpose does this question serve?

if I'm on her scum team we need to save another day.

i dont follow this.

[Carotenoid]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

Yes.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Carot is probably only an alien with Mac but that seems too obvious

[protocultures]

k



the way I see it I have roughly a 2/3 chance of hitting correctly today



if I am not incorrectly clearing someone which I very well could be


so let's solve this

I am good.

I would bet my bankroll protocultures is good.

That's two people I wouldn't kill if I were you.

Out of the remaining folk, I would rank them Carotenoid, MacDougall, TonyStarkPrime, Alison from "would like to have dinner with" to "would blow up with a Molotov cocktail containing laser guns that shoot bees after the lasers come out."

bankroll?

I smell a poker player.

Long time ago.

DFS guy now.

Dont understand DFS unless you are in the furniture industry.

I would have played poker if you still played for the banter.

[TonyStarkPrime]

But it's probably not Carot.

@linki proto it's fantasy sports

[protocultures]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

I mean Epi is about as hard confirmed as we are going to get. You gonna have to push my pedant theory and make me believe you believe it.

also if Epi and Proto are the scum team, we 100% kill alison at night.

I dont understand how TSP thinks this. ever.

It worries me so much, you just shot up like a lot in suspicion.

a lot a lot.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

I mean Epi is about as hard confirmed as we are going to get. You gonna have to push my pedant theory and make me believe you believe it.

also if Epi and Proto are the scum team, we 100% kill alison at night.

I dont understand how TSP thinks this. ever.

It worries me so much, you just shot up like a lot in suspicion.

a lot a lot.

why do you kill alison. you can win.

[Epignosis]

Frankly, I'd shoot Alison first.

I abhor the way Alison went after Carotenoid Day 5.

I should not have been saved. I should have been left to die. But I've been protected multiple times so I am told (LC, protocultures, Carotenoid).

LC was good. proto I think is good. Carotenoid is next.

I don't recall Alison going after LC or protocultures for protecting me. Instead, Alison when hard after Carotenoid and went out of the way to create wild scenarios in which the latter had to be alien.

Your call nutella, but my vote right now is on Alison.

[Epignosis]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

I mean Epi is about as hard confirmed as we are going to get. You gonna have to push my pedant theory and make me believe you believe it.

also if Epi and Proto are the scum team, we 100% kill alison at night.

I dont understand how TSP thinks this. ever.

It worries me so much, you just shot up like a lot in suspicion.

a lot a lot.

From where I'm sitting, this is true.

[protocultures]

If I suggest proto/epi as a team will someone accuse me of trying to widen the poe?

I mean Epi is about as hard confirmed as we are going to get. You gonna have to push my pedant theory and make me believe you believe it.

also if Epi and Proto are the scum team, we 100% kill alison at night.

I dont understand how TSP thinks this. ever.

It worries me so much, you just shot up like a lot in suspicion.

a lot a lot.

why do you kill alison. you can win.

Epi and Proto are outside of POE already basically (I think).

We kill alison, Nutella ML in day 6, gg aliens win.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah, probably. Didn't realize that there was a chance Mac was still on nutella. consider myself assuaged.

[protocultures]

also I dont always speak in third person, its just a hell of a lot easier to read in forum, and particularly ISO format.

[Epignosis]

k



the way I see it I have roughly a 2/3 chance of hitting correctly today



if I am not incorrectly clearing someone which I very well could be


so let's solve this

I am good.

I would bet my bankroll protocultures is good.

That's two people I wouldn't kill if I were you.

Out of the remaining folk, I would rank them Carotenoid, MacDougall, TonyStarkPrime, Alison from "would like to have dinner with" to "would blow up with a Molotov cocktail containing laser guns that shoot bees after the lasers come out."

bankroll?

I smell a poker player.

Long time ago.

DFS guy now.

Dont understand DFS unless you are in the furniture industry.

I would have played poker if you still played for the banter.

Furniture industry?

DFS = "Daily Fantasy Sports" you doughnut.

I would have played poker if you still played for the banter.

What does this mean?

[TonyStarkPrime]

It ~somewhat~ bothers me that you didn't stop to consider that a scumteam with Epi probably tries to shoot at Nutella but I understand your reasoning. No need to reveal it.

[Epignosis]

Folks, there's lots of people watching us. Judging us. We should probably win the game now.

[Carotenoid]

Let's PEW PEW THE ALIENNNNS!

[protocultures]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

I mean, if you still played poker, I would totally play poker with you for not big money, more for the funsies/bragging rights etc.

DFS is a company that sells sofas.

Not into any sports except UFC.

[TonyStarkPrime]

oh boy ufc talk is gonna begin

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis

I mean, if you still played poker, I would totally play poker with you for not big money, more for the funsies/bragging rights etc.

DFS is a company that sells sofas.

Not into any sports except UFC.

Got you.

Lost money last weekend on UFC. Oof. Woodson losing hurt my bottom line.

[Epignosis]

oh boy ufc talk is gonna begin

IT'S TIME

[protocultures]

It ~somewhat~ bothers me that you didn't stop to consider that a scumteam with Epi probably tries to shoot at Nutella but I understand your reasoning. No need to reveal it.

I hard cleared epi in my head. Otherwise I dont even float my chain plan where only epi is supposed to be on Nutella.

if I have any doubt, I dont allow that to become a thing. Or I fight against it if someone else floats it. I would drown the thread in posts until Nutella tells me to shut up and that she isnt doing it anymore.

I am not considering any scum team with Epi.

it also bothers me that you think I should be considering it from my pov.

[Epignosis]

Let's PEW PEW THE ALIENNNNS!

I don't think you're one. I think it's Alison and TSP.

I've read your posts twice over. If you're bad, I'm cool losing to you.

[protocultures]

oh boy ufc talk is gonna begin

IT'S TIME

is that excitement from TSP re UFC or the opposite?

[Epignosis]

It ~somewhat~ bothers me that you didn't stop to consider that a scumteam with Epi probably tries to shoot at Nutella but I understand your reasoning. No need to reveal it.

Did I kill Halley?

No.

Why are you entertaining this?

I know why protocultures is but why are you?

[Carotenoid]

Let's PEW PEW THE ALIENNNNS!

I don't think you're one. I think it's Alison and TSP.

I've read your posts twice over. If you're bad, I'm cool losing to you.

Me too. TSP's posting feels like a wolf caught in the corner.

[protocultures]

It ~somewhat~ bothers me that you didn't stop to consider that a scumteam with Epi probably tries to shoot at Nutella but I understand your reasoning. No need to reveal it.

I hard cleared epi in my head. Otherwise I dont even float my chain plan where only epi is supposed to be on Nutella.

if I have any doubt, I dont allow that to become a thing. Or I fight against it if someone else floats it. I would drown the thread in posts until Nutella tells me to shut up and that she isnt doing it anymore.

I am not considering any scum team with Epi.

it also bothers me that you think I should be considering it from my pov.

Oh, I understand what you are saying now.

If that were true, I would have said something so others dont clear Epi.

[Epignosis]

Let's PEW PEW THE ALIENNNNS!

I don't think you're one. I think it's Alison and TSP.

I've read your posts twice over. If you're bad, I'm cool losing to you.

Me too. TSP's posting feels like a wolf caught in the corner.

Damn skippy.

[Epignosis]

Can we all vote the person we want to die and nutella talk to us about those ideas and then nutella shoot the person we all want dead?

[protocultures]

so everyone in here except Nutella and me are suspecting Alison.

Alison is like my next top town.

I can iso again I guess, but I just havent really suspected Alison all game.

This is more for Nutella in case she thinks everyone wants her to shoot Alison.

I suspect Mac the most for today but Carotenoid and TSP are making me think about rethinking things with their recent posts.

[protocultures]

Can we all vote the person we want to die and nutella talk to us about those ideas and then nutella shoot the person we all want dead?

Nutella should follow their own thoughts imo.

say no to democracy.

All hail our laser overlord.

[Epignosis]

so everyone in here except Nutella and me are suspecting Alison.

Alison is like my next top town.

I can iso again I guess, but I just havent really suspected Alison all game.

This is more for Nutella in case she thinks everyone wants her to shoot Alison.

I suspect Mac the most for today but Carotenoid and TSP are making me think about rethinking things with their recent posts.

Alison is manipulative. I get why you don't see that. Alison is manipulative and is an alien. She should be blown sky high.

[protocultures]

Frankly, I'd shoot Alison first.

I abhor the way Alison went after Carotenoid Day 5.

I should not have been saved. I should have been left to die. But I've been protected multiple times so I am told (LC, protocultures, Carotenoid).

LC was good. proto I think is good. Carotenoid is next.

I don't recall Alison going after LC or protocultures for protecting me. Instead, Alison when hard after Carotenoid and went out of the way to create wild scenarios in which the latter had to be alien.

Your call nutella, but my vote right now is on Alison.

Alison didnt go after them because it was not the same.

Alison went after Carotenoid for their conclusion. at best, misleading town to bad conclusions and at worst, evidence of TMI

[Epignosis]

proto is town read, but less widely than Epignosis and tutuu/sabie were.
I 100% believe that Epignosis was always the night kill.
TonyStarkPrime is the only one that didn't claim, but it doesn't change much at this point.

At the time you made the claim of protecting Epi, nobody had claimed yet. You, as town, have no way of knowing who the mafia shot. There is no such thing as a 100% confimed mafia kill when there are a bunch of doctors running around, many with several protects left. Any wolf here would be dumb not to consider the possibility that Epi would be protected and go for a kill like proto + sabie - both of whom have lower protect equity than Epi while still being townread by most people. They also aren't realistically going to get shot by nutella in the near future, so they're good kills for the aliens to make. You didn't consider any possible kill other than Epi/sabie, because you walked into this day phase knowing for a fact you were going to push that as the kill made last night in order to fake clear yourself.

Also, I'm telling you I saved Epignosis. Unless you have reasonable reasons to believe I'm making this up (talk to me if it's the case), you should believe it and 100% clear Epignosis for good and clear me too.

Actually I'm pretty sure this spews you scum

If your story holds water you would have no reason to believe that mafia shot Epi and you saved him. Mafia could have shot someone else (eg. proto, who was also universally townread - moreso than sabie I think actually), and found that person to be protected. And don't give me the "oh, but everyone else claimed that they holstered/protected nutella" thing, because many people haven't given a clear answer on what they did last night yet. TSP hasn't even posted since SoD - there is literally no way for town Carot to be certain that the shot went on Epi and she saved him.

I think you shot Sabie and intentionally put your second shot into nutella knowing it would get blocked, thus causing there to be only one kill. That way you could claim you protected Epi (an obvious kill for scum) the day after, therefore fake-clearing yourself in a situation where you're under a heavy amount of suspicion.

why doesnt carot kill between proto and epi rather than sabie, and claim to have saved the other?

no offence to sabie, but she was a low poster and not as impulsive as proto and epi.

One possible reason why could be that proto/epi had a much higher protection equity than sabie. When we talked about who was town, the two people we put at the top of the townlist were always proto and epi. I think nutella also locked them both town at one point. If I asked you who are the two players that are most likely to be protected other than nutella, you'd answer proto and epi. Remember, in this scenario Carot is throwing one shot into nutella (to blank it so she can pretend it went into Epi), and one shot into a dead townie of her choice. She's already making a play that makes her KP minus 1 - she really really really cannot afford to have both shots fizzle, so she has to kill a target that she is pretty sure won't be saved.

I am struggling to believe that these two highlighted items are genuine thoughts that exist within your mind simultaneously.

You suggest that the aliens would be dumb to shoot me due to a higher likelihood of being protected...and yet you're also suggesting that Carotenoid deliberately shot someone who absolutely would be protected in order to pretend I got capped?

Do I have that right?

2) it explains something that can't be explained if you're town.

i'm slow, what is unexplainable if carot is town?

How Carot "knew" the kill was Epi/Sabie and didn't even pause to consider other possibilities like proto/sabie. Compare this with proto: he brought up other kill possibilities immediately, which is what town does. Town doesn't know shit about what's going on during the night - they're an uninformed majority for a reason. They are naturally inclined to investigate every possibility and check every angle before jumping to conclusions. This is why when a night kill comes out that points to a pairing of A/B, you don't just immediately lock your votes on A/B and be done with it. You investigate the possibility that it's a frame, you investigate the possibility that it's A/C and A pressured C to make that kill, you investigate the possibility that the kill was made for a different reason, etc. It's literally textbook town: you don't know anything, so you have to look at all the different outcomes and systematically eliminate each one of them. Carot didn't do that. She immediately went into her narrative about what happened during the night, when town her would be more inclined to think carefully about the different ways a single kill could have happened.

Do you believe the aliens have shot at nutella previously given that we are announcing our intentions in the thread to protect her?

And if the aliens have never shot at nutella, then why would they start now?

This is bullshit by Alison.

[Epignosis]

Hey Mac, why not come in and talk about things, huh?

[Carotenoid]

"misleading town to bad conclusions" pfffffft, proto you're saying Epignosis is lock town too

[Epignosis]

Kill Alison first.

Then MacDougall or TonyStarkPrime.

My preference is the latter.

[TonyStarkPrime]

it's alison proto

[TonyStarkPrime]

can it be alison proto?

[TonyStarkPrime]

proto doesn't hard defend alison today, probably?

[TonyStarkPrime]

It... can... be alison mac. Mac has a disturbingly small amount of talk about him

[nutella]

Yeah, Alison-TSP it is

Thanks yall

[Epignosis]

it's alison proto

Why isn't it MacDougall?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah, Alison-TSP it is

Thanks yall

shoot alison first so I can solve the game before you shoot me

[Epignosis]

It... can... be alison mac. Mac has a disturbingly small amount of talk about him

Oof...oof...oof....

[protocultures]

proto is town read, but less widely than Epignosis and tutuu/sabie were.
I 100% believe that Epignosis was always the night kill.
TonyStarkPrime is the only one that didn't claim, but it doesn't change much at this point.

At the time you made the claim of protecting Epi, nobody had claimed yet. You, as town, have no way of knowing who the mafia shot. There is no such thing as a 100% confimed mafia kill when there are a bunch of doctors running around, many with several protects left. Any wolf here would be dumb not to consider the possibility that Epi would be protected and go for a kill like proto + sabie - both of whom have lower protect equity than Epi while still being townread by most people. They also aren't realistically going to get shot by nutella in the near future, so they're good kills for the aliens to make. You didn't consider any possible kill other than Epi/sabie, because you walked into this day phase knowing for a fact you were going to push that as the kill made last night in order to fake clear yourself.

Also, I'm telling you I saved Epignosis. Unless you have reasonable reasons to believe I'm making this up (talk to me if it's the case), you should believe it and 100% clear Epignosis for good and clear me too.

Actually I'm pretty sure this spews you scum

If your story holds water you would have no reason to believe that mafia shot Epi and you saved him. Mafia could have shot someone else (eg. proto, who was also universally townread - moreso than sabie I think actually), and found that person to be protected. And don't give me the "oh, but everyone else claimed that they holstered/protected nutella" thing, because many people haven't given a clear answer on what they did last night yet. TSP hasn't even posted since SoD - there is literally no way for town Carot to be certain that the shot went on Epi and she saved him.

I think you shot Sabie and intentionally put your second shot into nutella knowing it would get blocked, thus causing there to be only one kill. That way you could claim you protected Epi (an obvious kill for scum) the day after, therefore fake-clearing yourself in a situation where you're under a heavy amount of suspicion.

why doesnt carot kill between proto and epi rather than sabie, and claim to have saved the other?

no offence to sabie, but she was a low poster and not as impulsive as proto and epi.

One possible reason why could be that proto/epi had a much higher protection equity than sabie. When we talked about who was town, the two people we put at the top of the townlist were always proto and epi. I think nutella also locked them both town at one point. If I asked you who are the two players that are most likely to be protected other than nutella, you'd answer proto and epi. Remember, in this scenario Carot is throwing one shot into nutella (to blank it so she can pretend it went into Epi), and one shot into a dead townie of her choice. She's already making a play that makes her KP minus 1 - she really really really cannot afford to have both shots fizzle, so she has to kill a target that she is pretty sure won't be saved.

I am struggling to believe that these two highlighted items are genuine thoughts that exist within your mind simultaneously.

You suggest that the aliens would be dumb to shoot me due to a higher likelihood of being protected...and yet you're also suggesting that Carotenoid deliberately shot someone who absolutely would be protected in order to pretend I got capped?

Do I have that right?

2) it explains something that can't be explained if you're town.

i'm slow, what is unexplainable if carot is town?

How Carot "knew" the kill was Epi/Sabie and didn't even pause to consider other possibilities like proto/sabie. Compare this with proto: he brought up other kill possibilities immediately, which is what town does. Town doesn't know shit about what's going on during the night - they're an uninformed majority for a reason. They are naturally inclined to investigate every possibility and check every angle before jumping to conclusions. This is why when a night kill comes out that points to a pairing of A/B, you don't just immediately lock your votes on A/B and be done with it. You investigate the possibility that it's a frame, you investigate the possibility that it's A/C and A pressured C to make that kill, you investigate the possibility that the kill was made for a different reason, etc. It's literally textbook town: you don't know anything, so you have to look at all the different outcomes and systematically eliminate each one of them. Carot didn't do that. She immediately went into her narrative about what happened during the night, when town her would be more inclined to think carefully about the different ways a single kill could have happened.

Do you believe the aliens have shot at nutella previously given that we are announcing our intentions in the thread to protect her?

And if the aliens have never shot at nutella, then why would they start now?

This is bullshit by Alison.

I mean, I follow all of it. It makes sense. I also believe it. I also believe Alison believes it.

You also say, I would be blindsided by Alison so I cant really counter that with anything.

[nutella]

Yeah, Alison-TSP it is

Thanks yall

shoot alison first so I can solve the game before you shoot me