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#4151

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:10 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:04 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:59 am If I'm partners with Mac we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Carot. Mac wins.
If I'm partners with Carot we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Mac. Carot might win but it's a little closer.

Neither of these plans involve anything close to claiming a fake action that does nothing but put arbitrary suspicion on Epi.
OR

You dump KP into Nutella, no kill to keep POE wide and make a fake claim to push epi and all their combos to get out of a 50/50 hit into mafia day 6.
I'd have to be a pretty ambitious alien to try to get /Epi/ lasered, no?
If you feel stuck in a situation where there's 2 mafia within a POE of 4 for Nutella, this. THIS exact breadcrumbed claim. Is what I expect from mafia TSP.

Am I giving too much respect to mafia TSP?

Someone else needs to tell me.
I'm very good at being mafia tbh. But no, I wouldn't feel stuck in a situation where there are 2 mafia within a poe of 4. and town can't miss. And I can expand the poe to proto anyways without a fake claim.
You can't put me into POE.

This chain I thought we all agreed yesterday implicitly has me protecting Nutella solo tomorrow.

If I'm mafia, you always lose to me anyway

what the hell it does? I didn’t see that

#4152

It’s quite possible that TSP as Town is less attentive than he wants you to think he is

#4153

I don't remember anything about proto protecting nutella solo either

#4154

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:18 am I don't remember anything about proto protecting nutella solo either

okay Alison is a wolf we did it

#4155

Someone else can do the work on this one I’m going to bed

#4156

(Alison is simultaneously claiming not to have read a plan while also claiming to have read a plan, both parts of this have two pieces of info for them)

#4157

It's for night 7 when epi is unlikely to have saves left.

We will need a solo bunker on Nutella that's reliable.

I never expressly explained it but that's where I came out to previously when seeing what the future likely looks like.

#4158

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:22 am (Alison is simultaneously claiming not to have read a plan while also claiming to have read a plan, both parts of this have two pieces of info for them)

I don't understand what this means?

#4159

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:24 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:22 am (Alison is simultaneously claiming not to have read a plan while also claiming to have read a plan, both parts of this have two pieces of info for them)
I don't understand what this means?

I kinda understand TSP. It's a lot less confusing if you do a full catch-up before posting. From my perspective it seems like you skim read and started posting. From others they think you are faking knowledge or lack of knowledge of things.

#4160

I'd ask Mac to read TSP here but think he's your most likely partner.

#4161

I did skim read before I started posting. I checked the crucial stuff (dunya's flip, notification on the night protection plan, which was too late for me to see/adhere to, SoD declaring nobody died) in detail, but everything else was just a brief glance.

#4162

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:29 am I'd ask Mac to read TSP here but think he's your most likely partner.

Ask him to do it anyway, he's been quiet and making people read their own partner can produce useful associatives (like if their read sounds forced or agenda-y).

#4163

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] ^

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4164

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:53 am Does town TSP do this? I have no idea.

You have properly gone rogue here.

Town TSP went rogue on a mechanical plan last game.

He also knows that I know that.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4165

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:59 am If you're going to have a protection plan, please announce it before 6am in Singapore, 2 hours before SoD, or I won't be able to follow it. I protected proto last night.

hmmm

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4166

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:15 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:12 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:10 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:09 am I'm just going to consider Epi mechanically cleared for now unless someone claims a save on nutella, since I think any team with Epi in it just shoots nutella owing to the decision to have a protection chain where Epi was her only defender.

If proto is town (which is the most likely scenario), the teams are Carot/TSP, Carot/Mac or Mac/TSP. The Carot thing is most likely to me but I guess we're at the point in the game where I should be tinfoiling Mac/TSP.

@TSP yes I haven't done any catch up yet, they're a pain to do on phone, give me a bit
you literally responded to a post where we were talking about this
I'm sorry? Did you claim a save on nutella and I missed it?
yes, don’t worry about it though. Though. Do worry about it. I have a thought. Anyways,

lol wut

#4167

Are you allowed to link that game?

#4168

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:41 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:53 am Does town TSP do this? I have no idea.

You have properly gone rogue here.
Town TSP went rogue on a mechanical plan last game.

He also knows that I know that.

How did it work out. If it went well it's more likely TSP does it again as town and vice versa.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4169

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:22 am It's for night 7 when epi is unlikely to have saves left.

We will need a solo bunker on Nutella that's reliable.

I never expressly explained it but that's where I came out to previously when seeing what the future likely looks like.

U powerwolfin bro?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4170

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:49 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:41 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:53 am Does town TSP do this? I have no idea.

You have properly gone rogue here.
Town TSP went rogue on a mechanical plan last game.

He also knows that I know that.
How did it work out. If it went well it's more likely TSP does it again as town and vice versa.

It lost town the game. Lol

#4171

Just back from beach. Too tired and endorphin rushed to care about mafia. Shoot TSP I guess.

#4172

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:50 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:22 am It's for night 7 when epi is unlikely to have saves left.

We will need a solo bunker on Nutella that's reliable.

I never expressly explained it but that's where I came out to previously when seeing what the future likely looks like.
U powerwolfin bro?

No. I thought TSP came to same conclusion when he modelled it which is why I thought it was weird when he thinks he can put me into POE.

#4173

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:51 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:49 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:41 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:53 am Does town TSP do this? I have no idea.

You have properly gone rogue here.
Town TSP went rogue on a mechanical plan last game.

He also knows that I know that.
How did it work out. If it went well it's more likely TSP does it again as town and vice versa.
It lost town the game. Lol

Oh. That's the meme thing then I guess.

Does TSP have balls to do this back to back as town?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #4174

I don't know everything is wifom everything is hard

#4175

From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.

#4176

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:33 pm carot/??? ? like. even if carot's faking, who's the scum mate in this situation? It just doesn't work out.

Why do you think Carot/Mac is ruled out?

#4177

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.

the fuck do you mean "Carot seems very pro town"

what has carot done for town

#4178

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.
the fuck do you mean "Carot seems very pro town"

what has carot done for town

sorry I should say "very pro mac" lol

#4179

which is to say, pro town lol

#4180

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:57 pm Alison/Dunya makes sense for game state reasons and additionally I scumread them both independently. Their interactions are questionable but I think make sense as paired.

this is pretty yucky

#4181

How do you read the dunya + me + caro interactions before that and think that dunya/Alison is a real possibility

#4182

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:26 am How do you read the dunya + me + caro interactions before that and think that dunya/Alison is a real possibility

I haven't really put all that much thought into them. Point me at them and I'll give them a gander.

#4183

And by haven't put thought into them I mean to say that I probably read them and was like "hey look there are posts" and moved on.

I was hanging a lot of my hopes on Dunya flipping alien.

#4184

I was asking Tony, not you...

#4185

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:02 am I was asking Tony, not you...

oh... hostile

#4186

How was that hostile? I just said I was asking Tony, because he was the one who gave a take I thought was objectionable.

#4187

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:19 am How was that hostile? I just said I was asking Tony, because he was the one who gave a take I thought was objectionable.

Felt hostile to me

#4188

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.

How many times have you all tried to kill me?

#4189

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.
the fuck do you mean "Carot seems very pro town"

what has carot done for town
sorry I should say "very pro mac" lol

I hate this. This is saying something. Being asked to provide reasons for saying something the responding with a joke.

We should in no way let this off the hook. Mac clearly didn't mean "pro Mac". So either Mac is partners with Carot OR is trying to make it look like he is partners with carrot. Doesn't make sense for town Mac to say this about a Carotenoid where Mac doesn't know their alignment.

Kinda worried it's Mac TSP or TSP Carotenoid. I prob lean Mac TSP. Are people not allowed to link me to that TSP game?

#4190

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.
the fuck do you mean "Carot seems very pro town"

what has carot done for town
sorry I should say "very pro mac" lol
I hate this. This is saying something. Being asked to provide reasons for saying something the responding with a joke.

We should in no way let this off the hook. Mac clearly didn't mean "pro Mac". So either Mac is partners with Carot OR is trying to make it look like he is partners with carrot. Doesn't make sense for town Mac to say this about a Carotenoid where Mac doesn't know their alignment.

Kinda worried it's Mac TSP or TSP Carotenoid. I prob lean Mac TSP. Are people not allowed to link me to that TSP game?

#4191

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.
okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.
second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)
yeah it's what made me change my mind, but I've seen Epi be a pretty aggressive wolf. Epi as wolf also overuses the "I never bus" line when he's just bussed, the first point can be seen in that fashion, but really like. I don't think so.

I've done it four times in eight years and only once with any deliberation. Two of those times were my teammates fucking up and leaving me with little recourse.

#4192

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:00 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:36 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.

We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.

You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.
I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.
another clear point for epi/proto

How is this a clear point for us?

#4193

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.
the fuck do you mean "Carot seems very pro town"

what has carot done for town
sorry I should say "very pro mac" lol
I hate this. This is saying something. Being asked to provide reasons for saying something the responding with a joke.

We should in no way let this off the hook. Mac clearly didn't mean "pro Mac". So either Mac is partners with Carot OR is trying to make it look like he is partners with carrot. Doesn't make sense for town Mac to say this about a Carotenoid where Mac doesn't know their alignment.

Kinda worried it's Mac TSP or TSP Carotenoid. I prob lean Mac TSP. Are people not allowed to link me to that TSP game?

Or Mac Carotenoid.

#4194

Please don't talk nutella into losing the game. Please realise that if I was Mafia I would be pushing on everyone. Just like pretend you believe me and ignore your tinfoil desires because you'll benefit from it.

#4195

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:46 am From my perspective TSP/Alison is like 90% likely so I don't care which of them you shoot. Carot seems very pro town. Proto is just insanely towny. Like at this point I'd rate Epi as less towny than Carot and Proto and I feel like the only way town really can lose here is if we have cleared Eoi wrongly or some shit.

dont know how much slanking you have been doing in this game, but you are reading the gamestat incorrectly.

Nutella said she isnt likely to shoot Alison.

Nutella has said she might shoot you (from your perspective, if you are town, you should absolutely think town can lose in these circumstances).

There is no reason why Nutella wouldnt shoot Carotenoid, and when asked, you gave no reason at all and just said "lol I meant pro mac".

If you think the team is exactly TSP/Alison, you should be pretty worried town loses the game here and be making cases to help Nutella, because I dont read Nutella at the moment as only shooting TSP/Alison and nobody else.

You have effectively just said "exclude Carotenoid from POE for no reason at all" which is why I read you as partners or making it look like you are partners, which is why i dont think this is town Mac.

You told me town Mac makes good logical cases. This is not one of those.

#4196

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:37 am Please don't talk nutella into losing the game. Please realise that if I was Mafia I would be pushing on everyone. Just like pretend you believe me and ignore your tinfoil desires because you'll benefit from it.

benefit from it HOW. You just spewed me town.

#4197

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol
i saved nutella.

Your orders were to save Carotenoid:

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:20 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:00 pm Ok so

Alison save Mac

Mac save TSP

TSP save Carotenoid

Carotenoid save Proto

Proto save Epi

Epi save Nutella

@nutella please confirm this for all

If this plan is bad, now is a great time to start saying something...
Yes, please do what it says in the quote everyone

@Alison
@MacDougall
@TonyStarkPrime
@Carotenoid
@Epignosis

Your view at the time was that aliens don't shoot anybody (which is bunk since there are no watchers or trackers of any kind).

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:13 pm Epi will be out of saves, something to consider. I think this is fine though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:13 pm Aliens pretty much always no shoot and I did the calculations and that ensures us day 8 if we misshoot tomorrow.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:14 pm Confirming this works.

Now the story you're spinning is that you spent a protection on nutella.

Nah Holmes

#4198

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:37 am Please don't talk nutella into losing the game. Please realise that if I was Mafia I would be pushing on everyone. Just like pretend you believe me and ignore your tinfoil desires because you'll benefit from it.
benefit from it HOW. You just spewed me town.

nvm, I cant read.

Cant trust you Mac, you gave me nothing to go on and you keep pushing Alison.

#4199

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:59 am If I'm partners with Mac we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Carot. Mac wins.
If I'm partners with Carot we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Mac. Carot might win but it's a little closer.

Neither of these plans involve anything close to claiming a fake action that does nothing but put arbitrary suspicion on Epi.

And if you're partners with Alison?

#4200

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:06 am we might dump a shot into Mac then but apparently the entire thread lost track of the fact that alison skipped night five so maybe not.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:01 am is this the first time alison has posted and we all just collectively forgot to think about that

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:08 am mac/alison/rej/soneji was looking like a very strong option day 2 and we completely stopped pursuing it.

You keep saying "we" in your posts, like there's some collective mindset here and no independent thought exists.